Vei
Wow, what an unexpectedly negative review, I would never have thought that this happens
But I have none of the above.
And about the TM-21, I also thought, I would have to sell my mother’s KP Orson, it’s worth collecting dust in the corridor in the box (it’s called a gift), only the warranty expires in vain, and buy instead the proven 21st. True, not because the 31 is bad, but because of the difference in price. 21 is much cheaper!
Omela
Liza, but are 21 on sale now? I saw him at work, I liked him initially.
Masinen
And by the way, 21 models are very similar to May Cook)) 21 bu is sold))
Mistletoe, how did you like it?
By the way, it's very interesting how the knives can fly off there ???
Vei
Ksyusha, they also visit Avito, and you can also ask around in the companies themselves. They also accept them against the new 31st, though for cheap
I don't want Maikuk, I only trust TM
Vei
But at 21-M there is no reverse and the temperature there seems to be different, I don't remember exactly. I often use the reverse, it is especially useless for my mother.
Omela
Well, I saw him at work first. A friend was campaigning against him. And when I went to buy it, it turned out that they were no longer released and a new model appeared. There are mechanical switches. And here is the electronics that I had to replace.
Masinen
And after Orsono, I just bastard when I turn on TM)) he is so quiet, and everything is at hand, well, just a fairy tale !! '
Svetlana th
Quote: OlennaTM

And show, if it's not difficult, how your knives behave so badly
Knives behave badly or don't behave at all - when they fly off. And if you are real users of TM, then they will definitely fly off you, of course, if you use it and not blow away dust particles. The knife flies off when the axis of the knife rotates on the motor, and the blade of the knife does not rotate, or does not rotate as expected, because there is no longer a connection between them. And in this case, you cannot do anything on it using knives.
Described clearly? If you need more details and with technical terms, please contact the TM service center to specialists for clarification.
Masinen
Well, mechanics, of course, are more reliable than electronics. But 21 thousand 20 costs, damn expensive)))
Masinen
Ksyusha, and your knives have come off, have you been using them forever?
Omela
Quote: Svetlana th

And if you are real users of TM, then they will definitely fly off you, of course, if you use it and not blow away dust particles.
Svetlana, we are real users of TM here. And very old. And we do not have such problems, which is why we are interested in how this can happen.

Quote: Svetlana th

If you need more details and technical terms, please contact the TM service center to specialists for clarification.
Why, I wonder?
Omela
Quote: masinen

Ksyusha, and your knives have fallen off, have you been using them forever?
I really changed the knife once. I broke the black fastener, which is at the bottom of the back of the bowl, and it only changes with the knife.
Masinen
Quote: Svetlana th

Knives behave badly or don't behave at all - when they fly off. And if you are real users of TM, then they will definitely fly off you, of course, if you use it and not blow away dust particles. The knife flies off when the axis of the knife rotates on the motor, and the blades of the knife do not rotate, or they do not rotate as expected, because there is no longer a connection between them. And in this case, you cannot do anything on it using knives.
Described clearly? If you need more details and technical terms, please contact the TM service center to specialists for clarification.
I'm wondering, but how are you going to sell it with such a marriage? When selling, will you voice the problem or keep silent and deceive people? Maybe you just have it defective from the very beginning and you had to demand replacement of the device !!
Omela
Moreover, the warranty is 3 years for it.
Svetlana th
Why did I raise the topic - I will sell my TM-31 at half the price of a new one. In principle, it's not bad. He is 3 years old. Complete, good. But I myself will take another device. Anyone interested in write in a personal.
Svetlana th
Of course the knives will be new. If you blow off dust particles for 20 years, I guarantee it.
Svetlana th
Quote: Omela

Svetlana, for sale to you here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=27659.0
Thanks for the advice, I already did. And then without advice on the site you can get lost so huge.
Masinen
I'm very interested, and what other robot can replace the TM31 ??? Well. For example)
Svetlana th
Quote: masinen

I'm very interested, and what other robot can replace the TM31 ??? Well. For example)
Do you think TM is generally irreplaceable? There are robots that are more functional than thermomix, can do more than TM and do what makes TM much better and faster, and even more. And the price is sweeter. Take an interest, Google will help you.
Mabo
The girls gave me Maikuk, but there are few recipes. As far as I understand, it is very similar in its characteristics to Thermomix, but the only thing is that it has induction heating. Maybe someone can help with some advice or recipes (who has it), I will be very grateful to you
Vikulina
Quote: Svetlana th

Knives behave badly or don't behave at all - when they fly off. And if you are real users of TM, then they will definitely fly off you, of course, if you use it and not blow away dust particles. The knife flies off when the axis of the knife rotates on the motor, and the blades of the knife do not rotate, or they do not rotate as expected, because there is no longer a connection between them. And in this case, you cannot do anything on it using knives.
Described clearly? If you need more details and technical terms, please contact the TM service center to specialists for clarification.
Svetlana, you most likely have a defective device. I quite often and mercilessly use mine precisely for grinding solid foods (chickpeas, for example, and not only), it works at high speeds - this has never happened (i.e., since) I love my TM dearly though I don't use it 100%.
fsv88
Girls, got the Thermomix the other day. Here is joy
Today, on the weekend, I began to look at him and did not see that he was Germany. Below, where the number is, it says France. I understand that the assembly is France. What do you have written?
And on the bottom I have THREE rubber feet. Two in the back and one in the front, in the middle. Is that how it should be?
Masinen
The main thing is to place it on a wide, flat surface. And sometimes it moves, for example, when kneading dough))
fsv88
I can't find a recipe for semolina with banana. Who knows, write the sequence, please
kosmar
I have no banana: 250 ml of milk, 0.5 tsp of salt, almost 1 tablespoon of sugar, and semolina in a cap to the middle (where the side is 0.5 caps) - I pour everything out at once, without stages.
dressing a butterfly, speed 2, pace 90, time 15 min
with a banana, probably the same way, just grind it
the consistency of me is such a porridge nra
Chef
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dopleta
But how to distinguish a troll from a rude, ill-mannered person?
Chef
Quote: dopleta

But how to distinguish a troll from a rude, ill-mannered person?
Same. In both cases there is a link "Report ...". Public responses and comments to such attacks lead to an increase in negative emotions worldwide on our forum.
Sklifanya
Quote: Anastasia

How can porridge (grains) cook in a thermomix faster than in a cartoon or just in a saucepan? This is not clear to me.I would be grateful if you can explain the physical process. If it had a built-in microwave, it would be understandable. And so, not really.

When cooking in the thermomix bowl, the knives rotate all the time, stir the dish, so the temperature in the bowl is evenly distributed and cooking is faster. So manna porridge is cooked for 10 minutes, buckwheat for 12 minutes, liver pate for 12 minutes, soup for 15-20 minutes, and so on.
Sklifanya
Quote: Anastasia

There is also a theme about the Thermomix on the cooking. There is user Liuka, who compares cooking in Thermomix and just the usual way. Interesting to read. For myself, I also saw the main disadvantage in the small volume of the bowl, I will quote: "The volume of the bowl is 2 liters. The scales work regardless of the load, you just need to stop it during weighing. So I tried to use it 100%. If he cooks, then I already do not have a mixer, coffee grinder, blender and all other delights.A juicer without a centrifuge, just grind and then filter. 2 liters is not the volume of the cooked product, because the knives are rotating all the time and the maximum volume of liquid should be much The volume of steamed is also small, so there is not enough to cook with a margin or for my four (not to mention the guests). "
And one more minus, I will quote again: "The principle is the same as in traditional cooking, not like a microwave or a pressure cooker. The only exception here is that you can keep t in low limits. And this is often necessary? But for the sake of interest I can measure the temperature in a milk cooker with low heat. Back in Soviet times I made a lawyer liqueur in a bathhouse with a hand mixer. And she's a double boiler in Africa. The fact that fanatics of the Thermomix say “it's from the evil one.” You can hear enough in the club! My family loves cereals, so I already know that viscous porridge in the thermomix does not work out, but liquid porridge is good.Well, buckwheat in a milk cooker with added salt, butter, sand to taste, but infused wrapped in a blanket, cannot even be compared with the tasteless steamed according to the recipes of the thermomix. Regarding "cuts, chops, grinds, interferes, grinds, grinds, grinds" - all this is one process in it - the rotation of the knife, you only change the rotation speed and time, resulting in a different consistency. You cannot cut and shred in it."
Do not forget that Thermomix prepares healthy food. That is, the knives are designed in such a way that they break the product along the fiber. Those valuable substances that are in the product cell remain inside the cell. Thus, salads do not drain, potatoes and apples do not turn black, we cook and eat less, and we eat up faster. In addition, everything is prepared quickly. Therefore, why cook soup for a week, because 8 hours after cooking, any food becomes a miracle, it does not carry anything useful to the body. But even if you need to cook more than 2 liters of the first or more porridge, here's a suggestion. Saute onions and carrots, for example, dip potatoes and cabbage in a basket, and put some more cabbage on the varomau, or mushroom or something else that you put in the soup. when the soup is ready, pour it into a saucepan and connect everything that was cooked on all floors. You will get at least 3 liters of the first one. The same is with porridge. Cook some of the porridge in a basket and some steam in a varom attachment. Believe me, there is enough for everyone.
Omela
Quote: Sklifanya
So manna porridge is cooked for 10 minutes, buckwheat for 12 minutes, liver pate for 12 minutes, soup for 15-20 minutes, and so on.
This is a bit different. Semolina 20 minutes. Vegetable soup. Pate yes.
Sklifanya
And you're wrong about the steamer. She's not so common in the Thermomix. Due to the unique shape of the varom attachment, all moisture that condenses, settles on the walls and on the cover of the attachment and flows down the walls in a certain way. the products that are in it do not get wet, so I even cooked steamed rolls. they were completely dry. And one more advantage of the varom prefix is ​​that it is possible to cook meat, fish and apples or pears in it at the same time, that is, the smells in it do not mix at all.I don’t know how to explain this process, it’s already a secret of the company. So I think it makes no sense to compare the Thermomix with a multicooker. They can only complement each other but not replace in any way. But the fact that the thermomix will completely replace your blenders, mixers, kneaders, smithies, coffee makers, coffee grinders, juicers, meat grinders and more, this is an indisputable fact.
Sklifanya
Quote: Omela

This is a bit different. Semolina 20 minutes. Vegetable soup. Pate yes.

why 20? I cook semolina porridge in the morning for 10 minutes. There are 11 minutes in the book. And pate for 12 minutes. Why are you cooking 20?
Omela
Therefore, in 10 minutes with a boil, it does not boil. But here, of course, a matter of taste, I will not argue.
SchuMakher
Sklifanya, what an interesting nickname for something to relate
Sklifanya
Quote: Omela

Therefore, in 10 minutes with a boil, it does not boil. But here, of course, a matter of taste, I will not argue.

well, porridge warps at a temperature of 80 degrees. Well, tomorrow I'll try to cook longer, maybe it really will be tastier.
Sklifanya
Quote: ShuMakher

Sklifanya, what an interesting nickname for something to relate

And that we have already met somewhere?
SchuMakher
Who knows ... we can in the corridor where ... the current passed each other and did not know about it ...
Qween
Girls, does the Thermomix beat whites well? I am interested in strong foam for meringue and poultry milk with added sugar and boiling syrup.
Masinen
Beats great! Straight into the strong foam.
Qween
Does the sugar in this foam mix well and evenly?
Masinen
Yes, it mixes well. I made strawberry mousse, that's where the whipped proteins go. It turned out like ice cream.
Sivana
For six years of operation of Thermomix, it turns out, I have never whipped proteins. Do you whisk with a butterfly?
Masinen
Yes, with a bow tie. But otherwise it will not work out in any way)
Qween
Masinen, Thank you !
Sails
Quote: Masinen

Yes, with a bow tie. But otherwise it will not work out in any way)
Masinen, tell me please, if you compare Ourson (I read it, you had it) and TM, which unit in your opinion is better and why? or are they practically the same? Only the price is different? I've been tormented by the choice for half a year. And if TM is better, then what? What can he do that Ourson cannot do?
Masinen
Sails, Elena, TM is the best)
1. Convenient in that you can switch speeds in the course of the knife. In Orson it is impossible, because there is a display, those are electronic control, but in TM it is mechanical.
2. In Orson, it still burns on one side of the bottom of the bowl. And in TM there is almost no, something can stick but not burn.
3. In TM, the Spikelet mode for replacing the dough, not just turns the knives in one direction, as in Orson, but the knives alternately spin here and there. Those dough beats off.
4. Convenient double boiler in TM, food does not stick.
5. The bottom of the bowl is wider in TM, and in Orson the bowl is already higher.

Here is the only drawback for TM))
Orson is certainly more affordable for the buyer)
igorechek
Quote: Sails

please tell me, if you compare Ourson (I read it, you had it) and TM, which unit in your opinion is better and why? or are they practically the same? Only the price is different? I've been tormented by the choice for half a year. And if TM is better, then why? What can he do that Ourson cannot do?
Elena, buy separate appliances for separate cooking. Never a combined device will do EVERYTHING well. There must be a separate device for each function. And for such a price, you will still have money for some other purchases in the kitchen.
There are such verses "we all learned little by little something and somehow". So this is about this device, and even for that kind of money.
Vei
igorechek,
I disagree with you. First, there is an acute problem with the availability of free space for individual devices. Secondly, specifically Thermomix does not do everything, but at the same time everything is bad. He copes remarkably well with all the functions he is capable of performing. The main thing is to understand correctly what such a device is, in principle, capable of, and what it is not. The only thing is minced meat, it is impossible to make it right with knives, so you still need to buy a meat grinder separately. The main disadvantage of TM is its price, but I never regretted the money spent on it.Another thing is that for many it is all the same pleasure from the beyond.
Regarding Orson ... I also had it, or rather I gave it to my mother, because she really wanted TM, but there was no money for the second unit. Now I would just save up for a long time, but I bought TM anyway. That's how much Orson loses to Thermomix.

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