Thermomix (discussion and feedback)

I look at the thermomix and one eye at the mikuk, maybe someone has a comparison experience. I'm seriously thinking about buying such a car, but I can't decide.

[Irma]

Irma, in St. Petersburg now the TM31 model costs 69850 = (oh, this marketing trick))) in general, almost 70,000 rubles
The new TM5 will cost approximately RUB 90,000

The new TM5 will cost approximately RUB 90,000

I'm afraid it is more expensive at current exchange rates

Yes, the price! In Russia it is easier to buy a T-shirt, the price in Lotus is 57,000 rubas !!!

I would like to know Pts all the same which is better!

I'm afraid it is more expensive at current exchange rates

This amount was given to me today, taking into account the current exchange rate.
If the rate rises, the price will certainly rise.
Before that, the price on the site was 78000 rubles for TM5, now 90000 rubles, it has risen in price by 12.000.
The price is comparable to the price of a kenwood with induction.

There are a lot of recipes for thermomix everywhere, which cannot be said about the T-shirt. So he is either young or not very much in demand.

Good evening everyone. Today I also phoned the office for the sale of Thermomix, the price is the same as in St. Petersburg 69.850 and now they do not give a loan for it, they offer to take it in cash from the bank. Maikuk also considered it as the cheapest option and even found a comparison on the Internet of these two units. Maikuk is praised because of induction, which saves energy, there is 3D heating - you can fry potatoes and even kebabs on skewers. And it works quieter, from the minuses there is no reverse and grinds a little slower than the thermomix, but the one who tested both devices says these are insignificant minuses and he gives the priority to Maikuk. He speaks more conveniently, more, heavier (because of which there is no vibration) and his baskets are all made of stainless steel.
There is no Lotus company for the sale of Maikuk in our city, it is necessary to deliver it by a transport company or by Russian post and on the site they have a price of 57,000, they are not yet available. So I also lean on him more.
The distributor with whom I spoke today says she has 31 and a new 5 tm and she likes 31 more, so that the mechanics are simpler and more reliable. And it's hard for her to get used to something new all the time to press these sensors. 196 recipes uploaded to the machine's memory are adapted for Russia. He regrets that tm31 is no longer produced, but most likely she just got used to it. I'm going to go to a masterclass on Saturday, see how they cook on it

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They write that the price of replacing the electronic panel and the engine costs 580 euros in TM5

Problem: Beim Einsetzen des Topfes wurde das Messer vergessen und Flüssigkeit eingefüllt. Nun läuft alles in das Gerät.

Lösung: Der vom TM31 bekannte Tipp, den TM auf den Rücken zu legen um die Flüssigkeit ablaufen zu lassen, sollte beim TM5 nicht genutzt werden. Den TM5 einfach senkrecht stehen lassen, Stecker ziehen und innen mit einem Geschirrtuch trocken wischen. Wegen der Elektronik nicht legen!

Einer Nutzerin ist dabei Flüssigkeit ins Gerät gelaufen und der TM verabschiedete sich mit Fehler C34. Kostenvoranschlag von Vorwerk: Motor wechseln, Steuerplatine wechseln, Leistungsplatine wechseln: Kosten 580, - €

Two years of warranty, and then pray that it works forever)

[Irma]

IrmaIf there is an opportunity to buy 31 TM for 69850, buy without hesitation, do not get fooled by induction and eating savings. energy, frying "potatoes and kebabs on skewers" in such units is the same as hammering nails with crystal vases - you can, but not necessary, TM does not have any vibration when it kneads tough dough, it is better not to leave it unattended for 2 minutes , everything, other actions are not accompanied by any vibrations. TM 31 is a very reliable car and it costs 1000 euros in Europe as well. There is money - buy and do not worry, you will make friends with him. As for the loan - this is a personal matter, it is difficult to imagine how much it will cost you with%.

[selenа]

selenа, thanks on Saturday I'm going to watch and try Norwegian fish soup and milk porridge made from whole-ground oats.If I like the car I will buy, most likely it will not be cheaper, and no one sells this device on Avito

and milk porridge made from whole-ground oats

Oh, I'm very interested, tell me later. I besides manna. I do not like porridge from TM.

[Omela]

Omela, and how is it different from porridge on the stove? On knives, I cook only semolina and oatmeal, semolina, yes, it turns out like a gentle mousse, and the oatmeal on the reverse is no different from porridge on the stove (yes, it is not unimportant, I did not try porridge from multi, maybe this is the case), and I cook buckwheat, rice and millet in a basket, the result also pleases me (especially when I pour excess brown water out of the bowl and think that with a different cooking method it would be absorbed into the cereal).

Personally, it is not convenient for me to cook porridge in the TM in the morning - it takes a long time and I have to get up in advance. I am simmering porridge in a slow cooker.)

Ksyusha, that is, does it turn on itself for some time before your rise, or languishes all night?

Nadia starts up on a timer so that she is ready for the ascent. It is cooked on average 4-5 hours, depending on the cereal.

average 4-5 hours

yes, perhaps such porridge can be tastier, as it languishes in a Russian oven, I have not eaten this

Yes, the slow cooker works by languishing. like in a Russian oven. Plus ceramic casters. It turns out well, very tasty.)

[Irma]

Irma, 🔗
Found it in Tyumen, maybe not sold yet?

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, thanks, but I did not find this ad! Now I called, they haven't sold it yet. He is two years old, but he speaks in perfect condition. What do you think is worth taking if there is no guarantee anymore? Or has nothing happened to him in two years? The rubber gasket is said to be intact.

I would take it, thermomixes have been working for many for 10 years. A gasket, if anything, can be ordered separately.
In any case, the price is 2 times lower than that of the new one.
In St. Petersburg, before the new year, they sold on Avito, now I regret that I did not buy,
But it's trite, the money for something else was gone - I got nozzles for the Kenwood, I had no time for thermomix.
You just check if the carrots are ground, the water is heated, the scales are weighed - then you can take it.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, agreed to look next week, too, all the money for the holidays flew away, I need to quickly pick up, tomorrow I'll look at the TM at the master class so that there is at least something to compare, otherwise I haven't seen it in my eyes, but I want to buy

Eh, who would sell me in St. Petersburg for 35, we have one ad for 45, but it is no longer relevant.
And I can't get out to Moscow yet.

[Pchela maja]

Pchela maja, agreed to look next week, too, all the money for the holidays flew away, I need to quickly pick up, tomorrow I'll look at the TM at the master class so that there is at least something to compare, otherwise I haven't seen it in my eyes, but I want to buy

Where you will collect, take a bigger basket so that you can fit a lot
Where to find such a forest or clearing that would gather on TM or MK.

[Laslovna]

Laslovna, I’m going to intercept my relatives, I’ll give it back in a month, I’m a massage therapist, there is always an opportunity to earn extra money

Super! Then write only if you managed to buy the first impression of the device.
I'm still collecting recipes and dreaming)))))

I will also scratch the bottom of the barrel, I hope I will scrap it by the end of the month, I will please myself with a new toy, I hope there will be no disappointment. I've been looking for a versatile machine for a long time. Although the amount is not small, I love myself and take care of myself and I will not refuse a good assistant in the kitchen, as I spend most of my time in the kitchen while I am at home. With delivery to Crimea, it's a little tough, God forbid a storm in Kerch, delivery is delayed from 10 to 20 days. I got a bottle of ozone for 18 days. And then the warehouse in Simferopol was filled up with parcels, so they couldn't clean it up for 3 days, but I can't wait !!!

[Laslovna]

Laslovna, will you order Maikuk or TM?

In general, there is a TM in front of my eyes, but I understand with my mind that the mikuk has more advantages and it suits me better.

Tell us about the advantages of a T-shirt?

I do not argue that I have no experience of working on any of the second devices. Therefore, I look for reviews about them on all sites, talk with people who have such experience, and accordingly draw conclusions for myself.As for the price, on Ukrainian sites the price of Maikuk is several times higher than that of Thermomix. And in the breakdowns, the Thermomix appears. But again, in some cases I am not claiming that this or that car is better, I just WHILE collecting facts.

[Irma]

Irma, in Tyumen, they also sell a new TM21 for 35,000 (probably, you can bargain more)
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But in classmates I met information that 21 models are 20 years old and from this year they stop producing parts for him for repair
Therefore, if I bought, I would still take 31 models, albeit a used one.

Tell us about the advantages of a T-shirt?

These pluses are primarily for me! Internal iron basket (stainless steel), iron steamer. According to reviews, Maikuk is quieter at work. Induction heating! I recently changed the stoves to induction at the dacha and in the apartment, I really liked them in my work. Compare kneading dough in TM and MK, heating is turned on only when the mixers are running, so MK has more chances to heat it than TM, taking into account that the dough will knead for 2 minutes. And make a pasirovochka for soup, and then cook this soup in the same place. We buy pressure cookers to cut down on cooking time, so why don't we strive for this in kitchen machines. Bowl in MK 3 liter with a useful volume of 2 liters, this is not unimportant for a family of 5 people. TM likes the design

Girls, owners of Thermomix, tell me how much soup is really possible to cook in New

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And I don't like the way the scales are implemented in Maykuke and Ourson, to weigh - you need to remove the bowl and put it on the scales.
What is the meaning of such scales, frankly, I don’t understand.
Then it is easier to have an accurate scale separately, like mine, for example, with a maximum weighing size of 15kg.

You've written a lot of beeches here!
I'm comparing Thermomix 31 and Maikuk, where does 21 come in? Bowls all have the same steel 18-10. In any bowl there is a useful volume, in MK this volume is 2 liters, well, maybe you can pour a little more, in TM there is a 2 liter bowl and 2 liters of soup, jam, pancake dough, etc. well, you can't do it.
I'm not talking about Thermomix TM 5 at all, it has a 2.2-liter bowl, electronics frighten me in it, it will work for people of 2 years, they will write their reviews and I will think if I have 90,000 rubles extra.

And I don't like the way the scales are implemented in Maykuke and Ourson, to weigh - you need to remove the bowl and put it on the scales.
What is the meaning of such scales, frankly, I don’t understand.
Then it is easier to have an accurate scale separately, like mine, for example, with a maximum weighing size of 15kg.

In Maikuk, the scales under the bowl are the same as in the Thermomix, and according to reviews they work more correctly than in the Thermomix.
Maikook and Orson processor are different machines.

[selenа]

selenа, just everywhere they write that in Maikuk, due to induction, the temperature rises instantly, so once in TM ten, it means it will be slower to gain temperature. I think Oksana meant this when she wrote about heating when kneading dough

Thank you Irma, that's what I meant !!!

In Maikuk, the scales under the bowl are the same as in the Thermomix, and according to reviews they work more correctly than in the Thermomix.
Maikook and Orson processor are different machines.

Quarrel, got confused, for sure! In the resourcechik, the weighing platform is moved to the main unit.

[Irma]

IrmaWhoever has induction cookers will say that water boils faster, but not instantly, that's it ..., then you still have to cook at a temperature of 100-120 degrees, just like on any heating source.

Precisely, everything is cognized in comparison, especially if we compare ten and induction. In two minutes of kneading, I think TM will not even have time to reach the temperature of 37 degrees, for this you need to preheat the liquid for the dough, and MK has every chance for this.
I repeat, I am faced with the choice of TM and MK, and will listen to all the arguments in one direction or another.

I like on YouTube a mother with many children from Germany posts a video about cooking in TM, after looking at her I wanted to buy a thermomix, and I have not yet communicated with vendors selling kitchen machines, moreover, TM and MK have not even seen live, presentations are not held in Crimea at least for now. Mother of many children Lilya exhibits her recipes under the nickname KochLadyLia.

[Laslovna]

Laslovna, so I saw enough of it and decided that I also urgently need a thermomix

She, like that at home, without advertising, spreads the preparation of dishes.And the most important thing from these videos you can see what the minimum amount can be processed in TM. For example, 2 tooth of a point of garlic, one banana, etc. The recipes are so simple that you have to wonder why you didn't try to make them before.

Girls, owners of Thermomix, tell me how much soup is really possible to cook in New

I was not too lazy and went to measure.In the bowl itself, almost to the very top, 2.7 liters fit, it is recommended to fill it as much as possible up to risks - almost 2 liters, but repeatedly (adding products to the same mushroom soup with melted cheese) it turned out to be 2.4 liters. Especially now, after I bought a new silicone ring

ABOUT! This is very important information! So 2 liters in TM is a useful volume! This information is not available anywhere on the websites. Thank you so much.