selenа
Masinen, Mash, and what these 20 degrees give, only that liquids will boil faster - this is +, steam is formed somehow more intensively - this is +, and for the same passivation 140 grams are not needed, now finally gentle cooking is in vogue all kinds of sous, but we have grills for the crust
MyxaCC
selenа, well, we just have a big family of 4 adults and 2 children. Therefore, 1.5 liters of soup even for 1 time is not enough)))))) And Cartoons 4-4.5 liters just for 2 days are enough end-to-end)))
Masinen, yes Varoma is 120 gr in 31 models. Fries fine at this function. I once fried finely chopped beef (just try it) and it turned out straight with a golden crust! Only then I was tortured to scrub the cup)))

For myself, I came to the conclusion that the thermomix + multicooker is just the perfect combination! These are devices that complement each other))
selenа

Quote: MyxaCC
thermomix + multicooker is just the perfect combination

Pchela maja
I can’t disagree, but even a multicooker pressure cooker is better
the price of the new model has disappeared on the thermomix website, the new one will probably be too cosmic,
given the skyrocketing euro
Pchela maja
Kitchenaid vs. Kenwood vs. Thermomix (comparison of kitchen machines on it., Who knows the language)

Gala
Quote: Pchela Maja

Kitchenaid vs. Kenwood vs. Thermomix (comparison of kitchen machines on it., Who knows the language)
Thanks for the video, of course, but this is not a review.
In my opinion, it was necessary at least to show these devices in action.
Vei
I love my TMchik dearly, but he never fried anything in any form with me. For soup, steamed onions and carrots are always obtained, so in my opinion the term "fries" is not appropriate for this device. And he normally chops meat only boiled, he will not replace the TM meat grinder.
Rada-dms
Quote: Vei

I love my TMchik dearly, but he never fried anything in any form with me. For soup, steamed onions and carrots are always obtained, so in my opinion the term "fries" is not appropriate for this device. And he normally chops meat only boiled, he will not replace the TM meat grinder.
But this is news to me !! That is, do not fry the onion until golden brown !? I wonder if the new model can handle this !?
And the minced meat is not homogeneous !!
And I have already planned to buy a new model ....... Here is frustration !!!
Russell Hobbs fries just like that, eye and eye at 120 grams.
Masinen
Vei, Liz, in order to chop meat, you must carry and sharpen the knife. And he will chop, how cute))

Rada-dms, and I cadet, what exactly is fried at 120 gr. I used it to fry the soup.
Vei
Rada-dms, Ol, my minced meat turns out to be a homogeneous porridge, that is, it will go for boiled sausage, but not for cutlets.
My fries are bad, perhaps this is because I add little oil, and I fry the onions in a cold bowl. That is, she crushed it, added a little oil, turned on Varoma, and Tmchik begins to twist and steam it)))
Sharpen the knife? maybe ... But now I need more TM for mixing / stirring, and not grinding, so I will not yet.
Here I want to buy spare rubber bands and accessories for TM, still at the old prices. But I don't have time for everything.
Milashaa
Quote: Masinen
Vei, Liz, in order to chop meat, you have to carry and sharpen the knife. And he will chop, how cute))
Masha, where did you sharpen the knives?
Masinen
Milashaa, Lyudmila, I haven't sharpened yet, but I'm going to.
Mistletoe-Ksyusha sharpened in an ordinary workshop.
Milashaa
Thank you Masha for the answer, of course my knives are not stupid yet, but just in case I will know.
selenа
Girls, it's not a matter of principle to sharpen the question (Ksyusha sharpened for another need) TM cuts and cuts due to the speed, and not the sharpness of the knives, and for a successful minced meat, the meat must be cut smaller and be sure to freeze. But minced meat from TM will still differ from minced meat from a meat grinder.
Masinen
Sometimes my meat is wound on knives and is not ground. I do not like this.
Therefore, I want to sharpen.
Sometimes it's too lazy to get a meat grinder, but TM is always at hand.
Well, they are not stupid for me either, but there are problems with meat.
selenа
Masinen, Mash, if possible, remove the streaks and films and be sure to freeze it (he cuts ice) or do not completely defrost the meat.
marina-asti
Rada-dms, fries normally TM. Chopped, 100 degrees 5 minutes, onions with carrots are normally fried. Precisely to a golden color, nothing has ever burnt on me, although there has always been little oil poured. Where there are 20 grams in the recipes, I don't pour more than 5.
Vei
what kind of burning are you talking about? nothing burns in TM, therefore it does not fry. They even admit at their demonstrations that they are advertising cunning about frying.
Vei
I dress the head of the meat grinder on Kenwood, it is in a convenient accessible place and go! Gorgeous minced meat, which only a meat grinder will do. But boiled meat / liver - yes, only in TM ruble.
Masinen
Vei, Liz, and today I whipped butter and sugar in TM with a butterfly.
Much more convenient than Keshe.
I am annoyed in Kesh by smearing on the sides of the bowl.
In general, all the cake dough was whipped in TM.
And it is also convenient that the scales are built-in.
Masinen
Girls! How I LOVE my TMchik !! Well, just love!
Today he boiled me potatoes and carrots for salads!
The table would not fit into any cartoon !!

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Thermomix (discussion and feedback)
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marina-asti
Masinen, Masha, and on what program did you cook? And how long does it take?
Masinen
Marina., on Varoma, about 30 minutes left.
Tk water should boil))
marina-asti
MasinenThank you !!!
Pchela maja
And I boil it in a stew, it turns out faster there (7min - potatoes with carrots, 12min - beets), I have to put it in two passes for the vinaigrette.
But I still want TMchik, I dream!)
Pchela maja
I read reviews on the new model in classmates
Of the features: it works quieter, whips the whites better, the bowl and varom are larger, the scales work in the cooking mode, the temperature can be set more accurately.
selenа
Where did you buy, do not write?
Of all the above, the scales are interesting in the cooking mode, everything else is not relevant.
Pchela maja
Mostly in groups they write from Germany, but one girl from Russia bought it in Malaga
Price € 1109
Interestingly, at what rate will we sell? The price of 78,000 was removed from the site.
They promised in February, now in March.
selenа
Pchela maja, The price of 78,000 was considered at a euro of 45 rubles, and now .... I can assume that they will not be taken to Russia due to the decline in purchasing power. If they are lucky, then it makes sense only if the price is over 100,000 ... It's good that I would be wrong
Pchela maja
It can't cost 1,700 euros, no way. Therefore, we counted on the basis of the course 60.
Wait and see. I noticed that now a lot of people have started selling their TM31
Vei
Quote: Pchela Maja
I noticed that now a lot of people have started selling their TM31
well, very in vain !!! I wouldn't change mine in the next 2-3 years for sure, but we'll see.
Pchela maja
I can’t disagree! Before the new year, I missed the opportunity to buy a used Avito for 15,000 and now I regret a little.
Vei
for 15 thousand I would buy a second one
Masinen
I doubt that for 15 thousand it was normal.
No one would debug a good unit so cheaply.
Omela
Oh, I just don't breathe on my TM. Especially at current prices.
Pchela maja
Quote: Masinen

I doubt that for 15 thousand it was normal.
No one would debug a good unit so cheaply.
They said they were in good condition. But I got twisted and there was no time to go see and check
selenа
Quote: Omela
Oh, I just don't breathe on my TM
Ksyusha, you can breathe and sometimes even sneeze at him, such a reliable car that nothing will happen to it and the service department
Omela
Reliable, something reliable, but, firstly, repairs are sooooo expensive. and secondly, my old man .. and their motors are not repaired ... mmm, Schaub worked.
selenа
Quote: Omela
their motors are not repaired ... mmm, Schaub worked.
yes, they do not repair, they just put a new one.
Omela
I can imagine how much it will cost.
selenа
Omela, earlier compared to the cost of TM it cost "a penny", now I can not guess, but this service should not rise in price in the same way as new TM.
Omela
So that you don't know how much it costs for as long as possible.
Masinen
Quote: Pchela Maja

They said they were in good condition. But I got twisted and there was no time to go see and check
Why did they give it away so cheaply? Maybe he was many years old?
Pchela maja
Quote: Masinen

Why did they give it away so cheaply? Maybe he was many years old?
they said that he was absolutely working, little bu, he was just the second and decided to sell, maybe there is one more. Maybe they decided to take a new one later?
if I bought a used one, I would check the scales, heating and crushing the ice, only then I would buy.
Irma
Girls, I've read your recipes for the thermomix and I also got sick with this wonderful machine. I want to buy it. But I just can't decide on a new TM5 to wait or buy 31. I understand that the difference is in electronic control, the new one has a little more volume, built-in recipes (I think that this is traditional European cuisine in Russian and they are unlikely to be useful to me) and a temperature regime of up to 140 grams. the cover is automatically locked. Is 140 a good temperature or 120 is it enough for you? Advise it makes sense to wait for a new one or is 31 all the same better?
I’ll go to the presentation on Monday, I want to touch it live; my friends do not have such a machine.
Masinen
Irma, you go and watch it live, and then you will think about which one to take)
Pchela maja
Or you can wait for March, compare live)
Irma
There it is still not clear on prices, no one says how much 31 it costs, maybe I will find out on Monday, but the new one is not at all clear how much it will be
Vei
if in the new 140C, then it will definitely be possible to fry something, but not at 120C. Another thing is that there is no such urgent need for this, or rather the difference in price is not worth it.
I think that 31 is quite enough, but thousands for 30, and not for the distributor price, I am generally silent about the new TM5 and its price.
Irma
Thank you for your answer, in our city the thermomix representation probably has not left the holidays yet all the phones are silent, and have not phoned anyone. Next week I will try to make a second call on calls, but no one sells on Avito either, apparently very few people have such a car

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