Thermomix (discussion and feedback)

But I still don't understand why the reverse motion of the knives may be required? ..

Once again about the reversible knives. It is assumed that the products will not deform with reverse rotation. But this is from the evil one. The deformation still occurs.

It is used for frying potatoes, for example, or stewing meat. When cooking soup, so as not to damage the potatoes. For me - so self-indulgence!

(refubrished - factory rebuilt, which is almost equal to new)

And yet .. what does it mean restored at the factory?

And yet .. what does it mean restored at the factory?

if you give an analogy, it is like a car with a run from the hands or in the cabin. from hands - how lucky. preparation has been carried out in the salon and a salon guarantee is given for some time. also in the salon they will tell you exactly what they did with the car.
in the west, there are a lot of refubrished positions, in fact for us these are used things, but brought to 100% efficiency and in appearance as new. for example, in thermomixes in many positions it is written that all accessories and bowls are new, and the device itself is restored.
see the description for each item for details.

Yes, the parameters of tm21 are higher than those of tm31 ... Perhaps this is due to the design feature of tm31 and there is no need for excessive motor power and heating. But I still do not understand why the reverse motion of the knives may be required? ..
By the way, spare parts (including sealing gum) are all at the same auction ...

Hello! You probably already had the opportunity to purchase it .. share your impressions and experiences: where did you choose? Are you satisfied with the purchase, and ... if it's not a secret, how much did the purchase with delivery cost you? (where did you buy?) How long did you expect?

Hello! You probably already had the opportunity to purchase it .. share your impressions and experiences: where did you choose? Are you satisfied with the purchase, and ... if it's not a secret, how much did the purchase with delivery cost you? (where did you buy?) How long did you expect?

settled on a set of multicooker + double boiler-blender from Philips. thermomix as a device is not yet in demand

and all that difference? and what they write, supposedly at 31 there is an "extremely necessary" reverse motion of the knives, that it heats up one and a half times faster and quieter in operation - are they lying?
and the prices are the same at the well-known foreign Internet auction.

Of course the reverse is necessary! Otherwise, there will be only mashed soups
And you can't cook pasta without a reverse! If you take a cookbook for 31 models, then notice that many recipes have a "reverse" sign.

Hello girls. I read the whole Temka, watched a bunch of videos, now I'm all in thought ... to take? Or not to take? I'm going to attend a presentation at the Greenline office. They sell at a price of 54,950 r, but having rummaged in the internet I saw the price of 48,000 in the online store. Do you think it is necessary to buy from an authorized representative or can you save some money?
And another question: I saw a boiled metal and plastic. Which is better?
Owners of Thermomix, are you using this machine or are you tired of it?
Here she showered you with questions

[Vikulina]

Vikulina , welcome to the forum!

Do you think it is necessary to buy from an authorized representative or can you save some money?

Here you have to decide for yourself. If you buy from official representatives, then all serial numbers (bowls, knife, motor) are recorded there and in the event of a warranty case, the service is provided to you. I don’t know how the repairs will take place with the online store.

And another question: I saw a boiled metal and plastic. Which is better?

To be honest, it's not comfortable at all. Small volume. But if you buy, then take a plastic one, there is no need to overpay - they are absolutely the same in function.

Owners of Thermomix, are you using this machine or are you tired of it?

I use it several times a day. I used to cook a lot in it, but now I use 95% not for cooking, but for whipping, chopping, mixing, kneading dough, heating, etc.

[Omela]

Omela, thanks for the invitation and a quick response. I often visit the "Bread Maker" - good here.

If you buy from official representatives, then all serial numbers (bowls, knife, motor) are recorded there and in the event of a warranty case, the service is provided to you. I don’t know how the repairs will take place with the online store.

Yes, here you need to think carefully ... the thing is not cheap, I would not want to risk it.

To be honest, it's not comfortable at all. Small volume.

Oh, but this varoma seemed so huge to me. Although I think it will lie idle - my husband does not like steamed meat. We often cook steamed vegetables ... Okay, I'll go first and see what kind of animal it is, and then I'll make a decision. It is embarrassing that it makes a lot of noise and at the same time jumps on the countertop (this is from the videos), you need to find a place in the kitchen where to attach this miracle, well, and the PRICE.

Omela, and from which company did you buy your Thermomix, if not a secret?

I bought for a long time in the "Thermomix club", Moscow, st. Usievich. 16. tel (499) -151-97-98, (495) 925-06-65. For some reason, their website is not working now, although it recently visited

Varoma is not comfortable in design. It is more convenient to use a double boiler in a multicooker. By the way, before it was possible to buy without it.

Confused by the fact that it makes a lot of noise and at the same time jumps on the tabletop (this is from the videos),

It makes a noise if you turn it on at maximum power. So it's not long, a maximum of 60 seconds. And it rides when kneading a steep dough. I hold it from above at the same time.

We also bought at the Thermomix-club,
As I understand it, Green Line has now become an exclusive distributor.
The site has a list of official representatives, as well as a list of stores for which the warranty is not supported

Varoma is very comfortable and its volume is quite sufficient.
I also have a double boiler (it was bought earlier), so I gradually abandoned it altogether. In a double boiler, it doesn't take much to get to one level, and cook on two levels - the food on the upper one takes longer to cook than on the lower one.
In Varoma, for some reason, it is cooked at both levels at the same time (apparently, due to the special shape of the basket).
In addition, Varoma is much easier to clean than the baskets of my steamer (and in the steamer, the unit itself must be periodically cleaned, in which scale is also formed, the Thermomix bowl is much easier to wash).
Cooking in Varoma is a little different than in an electric steamer, steam still goes differently.
There is no difference for vegetables, but cutlets are tastier in Varoma.

Here, with the help of Varoma, prepare a saddle under a fur coat in half an hour or a vinaigrette and immediately appreciate

Was today at the presentation of TM in "Green Line". They claim that they are the only official distributors in Russia, the rest are no longer there, everything that is offered by other companies is not certified and does not have a guarantee, only Green Line has the right to carry out warranty and service maintenance ... like this ... maybe they lie, maybe not, I don't know. If you buy TM in another place, then warranty repair (God forbid) will be paid. But at the same time, they did not persuade them to buy only from them, they just talked about possible "pitfalls".
What I liked: no fanaticism, like buy TM and you will be HAPPINESS! All quietly and calmly told, showed, gave a try.
Well, the shaitan-machine itself, of course, THING! I really liked it. I want to think a little more and .....
And one more thing, they did not promise any benefits, bonuses for bringing someone or buying several cars, and in general they did not talk about this topic. She seems to have told everything.Now I'll go read the recipes in another Temka, a lot of questions arose about cooking, I didn't ask everything on the spot.

Girls, it's a pity that Temka is inactive. I would like to see discussions about what you like, what is not very much, otherwise you all argued whether you needed TM or not. Whoever needs it will get it if he has the opportunity, and whoever does not need it will buy something else.

[Vikulina]

Vikulina , Thermomix recipes are discussed in another topic:Thermomix - I cook my way... As for the choice, when I saw him for the first time, I also could not sleep as I wanted. Now I really appreciate it. The price is prohibitive. The main drawback - your presence, that is, abandoned and received soup - will not work. The main advantage is one bowl and many functions at the same time. Even considering that I practically don't cook in it, I can't do without it.

[Vikulina]

Vikulina , Thermomix recipes are discussed in another topic:Thermomix - I cook my way... As for the choice, when I saw him for the first time, I also could not sleep as I wanted. Now I really appreciate it. The price is prohibitive. The main drawback - your presence, that is, abandoned and received soup - will not work. The main advantage is one bowl and many functions at the same time. Even considering that I practically don't cook in it, I can't do without it.

Omela, I looked at the topic with recipes, thanks, there are many recipes. I will think-take-not-take. I can't sleep either, the itching doesn't stop

[bluekitten]

We also bought at the Thermomix-club, now the link to their website is redirected to this one: 🔗

bluekitten, did you have a personal consultant?

We were reluctant to travel far to the center for a demonstration, so we initially invited a consultant home. Then she came for training, left her phone, you can call her if you have any questions. Is that what you mean?

Omela, did not quite understand about "The main drawback is your presence, that is, if you abandoned and received soup, it will not work." Is this a joke or something?
And in a saucepan perhaps the vegetables themselves are cut with a knife and jump?
I already wrote in the subject with recipes that the beauty of Thermomix is ​​that you stand less near it than near the stove.
On the stove, at least, you need to watch when it boils, turn down the heat and only then you can move away from it.
In Thermomix, you set the temperature, turn it on and immediately move away from it.

There are, of course, harvesters into which you load all the ingredients entirely and at the exit you get a ready-made soup, but they are for industrial use and cost a lot of other money.

We were reluctant to travel far to the center for a demonstration, so we initially invited a consultant home. Then she came for training, left her phone, you can call her if you have any questions. Is that what you mean?

Yes, that was what interested me. Now it's a little different - they suggest just calling the office if you have any questions. And a master class of 4 lessons is held for the owners of the thermomix, only for those who bought from them.

And at our presentation they promised 8 tons. for everyone you bring and who buys. The money is returned immediately. And immediately a loan from some bank was issued on the spot.

I bought it after all! Every day I love him more and more - a very good assistant in the kitchen. I cooked pea soup, baked bread, made salads (the degree of grinding I need is not yet obtained), I cook from books.
The only thing that bothers me is the steam that comes out even when using a measuring cup - the upper shelves have to be wiped every time.

Hello everyone! I will also join your ranks. I have been using tm for about 3 years. very convenient on vacation))))
I use it every day, almost without exception! I cook porridge in the morning, put it on, and forget it) I didn’t like rice milk porridge before, but now this is our everything! soups in the afternoon, and something else in the evening. puree there is extraordinary.Relatively small bowl, everything is different, we have 5 people in the family, 3 children (for now), we have enough of this volume and still remains. TM positions itself as a manufacturer of healthy dishes at one time, because the food must be fresh !!!!
I'm happy, but I would like to see new recipes too)))))

[anna718m]

anna718m , welcome to the forum!

we have 5 people in the family, 3 children (for now),

I also think the volume is optimal.

but I would like to see new recipes too)))))

Anna, well, any recipe can be adapted for TM. I never write about him on purpose. They indulged in soup this summer, for example: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=74884.0 and here's another https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=139092.0.

but sometimes it's so lazy to look for and come up with something that you want to find something ready))))

Well, that's a matter of habit, of course. I, on the contrary, am too lazy to climb into the profile branch. I read the recipe I liked and immediately decide where I will cook it: in MV, TM, Kukushka.

Dear TM owners. Can you please share it really is a worthwhile thing? I am sick of them to be honest, but the price stops. But if he saves me time and groceries, then maybe it's worth it? Recently, there are no posts in this thread at all. More and more about AG and CF. It turns out this is not a complete replacement for other devices?

[thet]

Recently, there are no posts in this thread at all. More and more about AG and CF. It turns out this is not a complete replacement for other devices?

thet , the biggest disadvantage in TM compared to MV is that it does not have automatic shutdown and delayed start. That is, it requires your direct participation in cooking inside and out. Do you have such an opportunity ??? Do you already have a CF or will this be your first device ??

Thank you mistletoe for your answer. :) I have MV and AF and more. But all these devices offer preliminary preparation and cutting of food, as well as for other devices. In the thermomix, I am attracted by a full automatic machine, that is, I measured the necessary ingredients, set the time and go! The dish is ready in a minimum time. Or am I mistaken?

[thet]

thet , and what do you mean by "full automatic" ?? Yes, some dishes, like pate for example, can be said to be on the machine. Yes, and the soup is convenient to cook, that is, the carrot-onions are crushed and fried. But you still have to cut the potatoes with your hands.

And about the minimum time, it is also not so unambiguous. For example, I corrected the cooking time of porridge declared in their recipes. Semolina - 20 min., Corn - 30 min., Rice - 25 min., Flakes - 12 min.

Personally, I now use TM for cereals, sometimes soups, pates, fruit drinks, kneading yeast and other dough, warming liquid products.

In no case do I discourage you. My opinion is that as an additional device to CF and AG - yes. As the only one - no.

Mistletoe !!! Thanks again for your prompt reply. Now it became clearer to me. Most likely I will not buy. I don’t have extra money and I still need so much that is really needed. I think this is a really cool thing but too expensive (for me). I will be happy to read recipes and tips in this topic and maybe I will .......

[about the guarantee]

Hello dear hostesses! : friends: My acquaintance with your site began thanks to Thermomix, that's why I'm writing my first greetings here!
I have TM 31 release 2007 November. Sorry if it's messy, I live in Germany and sometimes a correctly delivered speech is forgotten.
I am very pleased with this multi-talent, and if anyone has the opportunity to purchase, let them pay 1 ruble per day for it, BUY! All your cars will move to the closet, you yourself will not notice how you stop using them. The only thing I use sometimes is a hand mixer. I have 3 children, and we have enough stew-cooked in TM, if I cook in a large saucepan, for example, we can eat borscht for 2 days, so all the same, I do the vegetables in TM. Soups, cereals, second courses - fish, meatballs, steamed vegetables, mantyshki, goulash, poultry, etc. I do everything TM! And making dough and creams is just an irreplaceable thing! And what a delicious cappuccino it turns out, or mayonnaise! For 4 years I bought mayonnaise only once, I did everything myself. Jam. In general, you can describe your admiration endlessly. His only downside is that he does not bake and, at first glance, a BIG price, but over time you realize that this price is nothing!
For example, I can proudly say that I do not have Kenwood in the kitchen, but TM and use it with all my heart!
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I have a question for those who write about the guarantee... My neighbor is going to Moscow, where she has a sister, and she wants to take her sister as a present for TM, maybe they won't have a guarantee in Russia, if TM is bought in Germany, you never know what can happen. Although my neighbor has been using TM for more than 8 years and during this time she changed the rubber band on the lid just a couple of weeks ago.
I would be very grateful for all kinds of answers!

And how much does a sowing device cost, that even on the official website there is no price, no more or less normal photo, and not a general plan

Once upon a time I, too, "rooted" for TM a few years ago, but the price is still cosmic. Then it still cost more than 40 tons. R. , haven't visited the official website for a long time. In November, I bought a Kenwood kitchen machine, which cost me 35 tr.
Of course, a tempting TM technique: weighs, grinds, fries, soars ... and washes myself I would also not mind buying TM, but so far I have made a choice on Kenwood

[NatAlyushka]

My neighbor is going to Moscow, where she has a sister, and she wants to take her sister as a present for TM, maybe they won't have a guarantee in Russia, if TM is bought in Germany, you never know what can happen.

NatAlyushka , there will be no guarantee. When buying from an officer dealer, they enter the numbers of the bowl and knife into the computer. And then, when you pass it under warranty, they check these numbers. But of course they will make repairs for money.

[Kisena]

And how much does a sowing device cost, that even on the official website there is no price, no more or less normal photo, and not a general plan

Kisena , but what do you dislike about the pictures on the official website ?? There is both appearance and equipment. Now I don’t know how much it costs .. It cost 40-50 thousand. about.

Today I saw that there is such a company called Oursson, which produces units, like, one to one Thermomix ... only the price is 13,990 rubles, available for purchase in the Russian Federation. Look, the company has a website

[Oksyusha]

Oksyusha , one to one ripped off the Thermomix !!!

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Yeah, and even made their contribution in the form of electronic control.

I just called them .. they sell only through online stores on Yandex. On sale there is this harvester, kettles and induction cookers. I wanted to find a bread machine - no .. In general, the firm is still raw .. IMHO.

[Oksyusha]

Oksyusha , one to one ripped off the Thermomix !!!

Exactly, very similar to TM-21, only there the temperature is only up to 100 degrees, without Varoma, a steam basket and a Butterfly

On, according to the site's info, there are such processors available, even by self-delivery, even with delivery. I really didn't call them

Continuing the topic, I did not find the manufacturer and prices on the website. Is this network marketing (regular)?

[sve]

sve , I honestly do not know, but I think this is something else. When a friend began to tell me about this wonderful unit 6 years ago, I immediately asked how much it costs. She says - you first look at him live, that he may not have named the price either. Because when I recognized her, I said that I would not even watch. But she persuaded me, I looked and immediately "got sick" with them. Therefore, they are invited first to the presentation, and then they name the price.

girls, hello! who has a new book, brown ... ?? international ...

and I also wanted to ask if there are no people willing to go to the green-lane to improve their "qualifications", they are held on Thursdays at 14-00, but the time is not very good ... maybe on a weekend?

[negative]

Hello! Just a couple of days ago I became the owner of Thermomix. How it was. Six months ago, a friend of my mother told me that she had attended the presentation of the miracle machine and now she is sick with it, she really wants it. I was very skeptical about this, as not the biggest fan of network companies. I went online to look for negative reviews about the car and company. I found it, but very few and mostly they concerned the bite price for this "unknown animal". They began to call me persistently at the presentation. Didn't go. I continued to look for cons and dissatisfied.I might have forgotten about it, but my younger sister was pregnant, we live together, and my harvester of a famous German brand ordered to live a long time after one and a half years of use. Thus, the purchase of at least a blender became an absolute must. I continued to look for cons I did not go to the presentation. I found out who of my rather good acquaintances has TM and asked for a "lunch". That is, an acquaintance (not very close) was preparing dinner for the family, and I was watching. She gave us dried apricot juice, I was not impressed. I made "ice cream" - sugar (whipped into powder in a few seconds), frozen strawberries (I started to be impressed. My harvester would definitely have died chopping frozen strawberries), two proteins. In general, something like a souffle, neither me nor my child really liked the taste. I brewed coffee - very tasty, but again not convincing, in a Turk, craftsmen brew no worse. Made melted cheese (15 minutes, all homemade products) - soooo impressed as a lover of processed cheese, but I rarely allow myself to buy it because of the explosive mixture. At home, I didn’t succeed categorically, I tried it, I didn’t waste any more time or food. Then she began to cook borsch, I watched the process of shredding vegetables. For me, this is an important question, since I do a lot of winter preparations. For a festive table when you want to show yourself Mistress - not a fountain, the cutting is not beautiful, but for everyday life at home it will do very well, considering the seconds of time spent. In general, I liked it. But the priceaa Representatives of the company refused to deliver one car (not cost-effective), I was offended and calmed down. Time passed, a nephew was born, soon a vegetable garden. Due to my not very health recently, I either do something around the house-garden, or cook. That is, if in the morning I got up to the stove, cooked breakfast and lunch, I can't do anything else for sure - I'm tired. I started to take an interest in TM again. I found another dealer company (I harbored a grudge against those). I called, somehow I was so cordially invited, not at all in a Setivik way, that I think, let me go, give it on credit - I'll take it. I arrived, half an hour later I left with TM, they took me where they asked ... While I was driving home, I scolded myself and at the same time made excuses, the job was done, it was too late to rush. Arrived, immediately began experiments (almost overnight in the yard). It took me 30 seconds to make buckwheat flour, another couple of minutes with preparations - ice cream for my son. For ice cream I took homemade strawberries and homemade eggs - it turned out delicious! I remembered that my acquaintance, who was demonstrating TM to me, took store-bought strawberries, which is probably why my product turned out to be much tastier. During these two days I cooked: pork pâté - tasty, tender, fast; processed cheese (twice already), the family squeaks with delight; dough for pancakes (a couple of minutes) - does not bother, I do not get tired of baking pancakes, dough without lumps is guaranteed; rice porridge - no faster than in a saucepan, but I watched him only because I was still interested and unusual that SOMEONE was cooking for me, the exit was delicious _viscous_ porridge; milkshakes are generally a miracle, homemade strawberries, ground cereals and homemade milk for breakfast are just great; Homemade butter - 550 grams per liter of cream, wonderful, without oil impurities. So far, I do everything "by touch", but not a single product has been spoiled. In general, morally for me, this unit was justified in the very first days, I am delighted, the family too. It is possible that there are harvesters that are not worse, and maybe even better, but I did not catch my eye, although I was shoveling the Internet for quite a long time. A small minus, which I noted for myself in use - indeed, while he is cooking, you will not use the rest of the functions. But he does everything so quickly (I'm talking about shredding-grinding-whipping) that I have not yet felt this problem. In general, I can safely recommend it for those who still need to save time in the kitchen. Saves at times. And _ personally for my family_ the possibilities of preparing various dishes in everyday life have greatly expanded.I haven’t tried to beat eggs in a hundred years, for me it’s tiresome, and they used to drink only purchased milkshakes (extremely rarely due to the questionable quality), despite the fact that our milk is always exclusively homemade.

Thank you all for the warm welcome. Today we again enjoyed a milkshake in the morning (milk, barley flakes, dried apricots, honey). But it didn't work with minced meat. True, I was warned that he does not chop meat for minced meat (well, or the meat must be of very high quality), the veins are wound on knives, maybe I don’t know how to do it right yet. And the porridge was good again. Today I didn’t even follow him, abandoned everything and went for a walk with the dog, came back and fed my family porridge like a decent mother of the family. I continue to rejoice at the acquisition. The sister is now feeding the child, a lot of things are not allowed, and she, too, was introduced to the diet

True, I was warned that he does not chop meat for minced meat (well, or the meat must be of very high quality), the veins are wound around knives,

At first I grinded, put the chopped into small pieces and in small batches. But now my old man is on the shore, I make minced meat in a grinder.

hello. I dreamed of TM for many years, my husband gave it the day before yesterday and the gift puzzled me. I imagined TM's work this way - the products are placed in some kind of jars and added in turn, everything according to the program, then a bell and here's your happiness. Yesterday I studied the instructions, today on the Internet, as a result, in order to please my husband, I did not leave the TM for 3 hours, happiness did not work. please tell me experienced owners of this miracle, is it for me it makes such a loud noise and shakes, or is that how it should be?

[TS06101964]

TS06101964 , welcome to the forum and with a new assistant you!

please tell me experienced owners of this miracle, is it for me it makes such a loud noise and shakes, or is that how it should be?

Shakes and noises only at high speeds 8-10 or when there is a lot of food. It works quite quietly this way.

and here's your happiness

This is more about the work of a multicooker - put it down, close it, press it, take out the finished product. Presence is necessary here, at least in order to turn off after the end of the program. The beauty of TM is that in one dish you can do absolutely everything - chop, fry, boil, whisk (soup or pate, for example).

Nuuuu, since you have a full set of assistants (multicooker, pressure cooker), then TM is just right !!!

[Ksyusha]

Ksyusha, and what, really worthwhile thing ?! And can a straight dough mixer work ?!

Innul, the kneader works. I knead, I like it. And all in one container. For example, heat milk first, then flour there. Current is not for your volumes !!! There the volume of the bowl is 3 liters. and the maximum flour weight is 500g. somewhere. And even less for rye.

Why am I looking the other way. I have repaired it several times already, but the motor cannot be repaired there. So I don't even breathe on him. TTT to work.

[Innul]

Innul, the kneader works. Current is not for your volumes !!!

From just for my volumes, it would be enough for my eyes ...

So the mixer ... But which one ?! Bliiin, it’s a lope, you need to shovel the information about the shove ... but I already need it urgently, I'm sorry for the mixer, I'm afraid it won't last long at this pace ...

By the way Ksyusha, tell me please, is the quality of the dough mixed in HP and in Thermomix different?

Is the quality of the dough mixed in HP and in Thermomix different?

Well, how can I tell you. You yourself can look at my recipes (where the batch is in HP, where in TM). I will say this - for ordinary bread, there is no difference. The only thing is faster in TM. And for complex ones, where the same oil must be introduced at the end of the batch, for example, in TM it is better. I personally can't do it in HP. Or where you need a slow mix at 1 speed, or vice versa, a short mix at a high speed. And for rye, not every HP will cope, but TM - with any dough. The only thing, when kneading the ciabat dough, heats up. I did it a couple of times and didn't torture the unit.

In general, you can look at TM in the office.There, presentations show all the possibilities. I have it for 6 years already. I drive in special. bag everywhere behind you. Even if I leave for 1 day. And on long trips, by car.

But what’s interesting to me is if there is one bowl for everything and it washes itself, almost, by itself, and dries itself, and how quickly? Well, for example, after the soup, I urgently need to grind the flour, how quickly can I do it? Or do you need to wipe dry with a cloth?