Pchela maja
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Girls, they definitely exist in Ukraine, I can clarify on account of their presence in Russia.
New Thermomixes or Super Cookies? And what is the control language in the models for Ukraine?
marianna55555
A total of 9 control languages ​​(including Russian). You can choose if you want. On which one download to your memory card, that will be. And its maximum speed is 23,000 rpm, unlike Thermomix more than 2 times, but it seems there is no reverse. (I won't say exactly).
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Sklifanya
Yes, in Ukraine it appeared relatively recently. And the price is 1100 USD.
Masinen
I believe that there is nothing better than TM31 yet. He's reliable! And a bunch of electronics can fail at any moment.
The new TM is very beautiful and the lid is coolly fixed, but I am confused by the electronics and the display.
Sklifanya
In any case, we already know about the quality of TM. But we cannot judge how long the new T-shirt will last. So, in my humble opinion, TM is still the best.
Masinen
I am confused by the removable panel. And if it is covered, then the unit will not work?
I look at how many such devices I have and I haven't caught a single eye.
The only thing I liked was Maikuk, with induction. And he liked the management.
But how he is in business I cannot say.
Vei
Maikuk did not impress me. But I no longer need to choose to toil, I have my TM31, that's enough for me!
Pchela maja
If I had Thermomix 31, I wouldn't upgrade anytime soon.
The main thing that is required from the apparatus of such a plan, it does and will remain relevant for a long time.
But if you buy a new one, then you can probably take a closer look at the new model.

I was answered at the dealership
TM 5 in Russia will go on sale no earlier than February 2015. Approximate
the cost of the new Thermomix is ​​80 thousand rubles. This information was before
leap of euro and dollar.
TM 31 still costs 58,850 rubles.

In Thermomix I am also attracted by its compactness in comparison with Maikuk and Superkuk,
as well as scales under the bowl, which does not need to be moved anywhere in order to weigh.
Well, in the new one, the manufacturer promises (the picture above was hung): a larger bowl, a larger steam basket, an expanded temperature range up to 120 degrees, a quieter and more powerful motor.
Vei
And the 31 motors are quiet and powerful. I do not think that this difference with the new model is almost 30 thousand! Then it's better to Kenwood 080, it also has a blender and heating with a stirrer and much more.
Pchela maja
But Thermomix with Kesha are completely different devices, a different principle of operation, the only common thing is heating from below.
Kesha is more of a planetary mixer with a large bowl and in general a full-fledged combine, good for biscuits, kneading tough dough and large volumes. Thermomix is ​​a sophisticated heated blender for mashed potatoes, cereals, sauces, when you need to knead a small amount of dough.
Ideally, I want both, gradually, over time. 80tr is an unrealistic price for me, of course, but everything that is sold on Avito in St. Petersburg is not cheap at all and it is not clear what is there with a guarantee. Ideally, I would find a little-worn 31st with an unexpired guarantee of 25-30 thousand, it would be happiness.)))))
But for 58.5tr you don't want to buy an old model at a dealership at all.
20tr is not the biggest difference, you buy the device for a long time, one way or another I will still take it in installments.
pulkeria
Vei,
Quote: Vei
Then it's better to Kenwood 080, it also has a blender and heating with a stirrer and much more.
Waugh, Liz, and I about the same. I cook mashed soups as much as I have TM. I am not an ardent fan. And I do them only for myself.But Kesha for me personally seems to be a more functional device for the same money
selenа
Pchela majaFor Thermomix, the guarantee does not make any difference, the "little-union" on Avito can be found realistically and at a price somewhere in this area.
selenа
Yulia, write to me "especially gifted" what you will do in it (in the cache), preferably point by point
pulkeria
Hope,
Well, firstly, I like it as a mixer, my Bosch nervously smokes on the sidelines, I still manually stir everything after it - I'm tortured
Secondly, I really want a macaroon and spaghetti attachment
3. The same stew, gravy, cabbage quickly stew, boil the porridge, I think it will not present any problems.
4. The meat grinder included in the Bosch kit has long ordered to live a long time, but here it will be more substantiated
5. Fasteners on the bosha for graters, also broke, Kesha wins here too
6. For pampering and a juicer you can
7. Again, it seems to me that it will be more convenient to knead the dough in Innokenty.

Thermomix knives bother me more than they help. It's really more convenient for me when, like Kenwood, the mixing nozzles are on top. And induction tempts me right now.
Masinen
Pchela maja, for 25 thousand no one will give a little-used one.
I bought my new one on Avito for 35 tr. But no guarantee.
In general, they sell 40 tr. And 35 tr.
Rarely, someone who sells a new one is not expensive.
Pchela maja
Quote: Masinen

I bought my new one on Avito for 35 tr. But no guarantee.
For 35 new - this is a very attractive price (for me), thanks for orienting a little
I see that the majority still spoke in favor of the cache, probably then I'll start by buying it, and then I'll see if it will be enough for me and then I won't buy the Thermomix.
Masinen
Pchela maja, and look at the cache at Avito too.
Pchela maja
There I look)) I have already found it, but I need to save some money))))
pulkeria
Pchela maja, when I bought TM, it really had no analogues. Only, only cookers and multicooker began to enter the market. And then, when I asked about the multicooker in the store, they looked at me with bulging eyes. Of course, if then there was a choice, I would even think about it.
selenа
pulkeria, Yul, well, at least it began to form some kind of picture in my head. I didn't understand about "meat, potatoes, gravy, ..." so he has a specific hot preparation. This changes things. I do not want to delve into this topic, so as not to find myself another headache (well, you know) And for the general development, I understood everything Thank you, dear
Pchela maja
It seems to me, again, when compared with the more multifunctional Kesha, Thermomix is ​​such a nice toy for kitchen deviceaholics like me, in which it is just comfortable to cook.
pulkeria
selenа, Nagy, he also has induction heating. You can use it as a food processor / meat grinder / blender and others, or you can use it as a saucepan. Elementary, I kneaded the yeast dough, warmed it up for 5 minutes and left it there in a warm place. Will come out faster than manually or in HP.
selenа
Pchela maja, well, in defense of Thermomix, compared to Kesha, I can also say a lot. Dalek is not a toy, but a decent plowman. It all depends on the composition of the family, the culinary preferences of its specific members, the required amount of food and its variety.
selenа
Yulia, about the dough, then I understood that he would heat up to 37 * and let him come up, but the fact that he did not cook potatoes, I thought he heats up to 40 degrees just for working with the dough
pulkeria
selenа, he has a temperature regime of 20 to 120 degrees.
And yes, TM is still for a small family. He is too small for me with my crowd. So I only use it to cook porridge, soup to myself, like a double boiler (here he has no equal and I'm afraid that Kesha may be inferior) and for dough for a small amount of pies.
Pchela maja
And also dough for pancakes, potatoes. mashed potatoes, sauces, all sorts of smoothies))))
And with small volumes, so as not to drive the cache in vain, smearing a drop on a 6-liter bowl.

My family is very fond of salmon or mushroom puree soups, so it will definitely be in demand)
Vei
Pchela maja, in Kesh, a blender glass is put on top, only without heating.It is not necessary to drive 6 liters in the bowl itself. Plus there are also harvesters and a bunch of other pribluds are optional.
Pchela maja
In general, you can make mashed potatoes with a blender leg right in a saucepan and special mashed potatoes. nozzle (in the Kenwood blender there is a special one) to make, the only question is convenience.
Now I would prefer the 84th Kesha (as a heated dough mixer with the possibility of further expansion of functions, if I feel like it) + Thermomix.
I have a Mulinex meat grinder with a vegetable cutter-attachments, I rarely use it. Sometimes it's even easier to scold Berner)))
Masinen
Honestly, I would not trade Thermomix for cash)
I will definitely not cook soups in Kesh. And in TM I got used to cooking such a delicious soup, to be stunned. In a slow cooker, this does not work. And in Kesh it will not work.
Still, Thermomik and Kesha complement each other. I would not give away either TM or Kesha.
selenа
Masinen,
Pchela maja
Quote: Masinen
Still, Thermomik and Kesha complement each other. I would not give away either TM or Kesha.

Here are my thoughts !!!!
Masinen
And the cache is healthy of course))
It is easier to wash the Thermomix than the cache.
I have both of them on the work surface and I use them. Maybe Kesha more, due to the attachments. And I remember when there was no cache, so the thermomix did everything for me.

pulkeria, Yul, look, in Kesh you won't be able to warm up the dough later, for proofing, but only during kneading you can warm it up,
Heating does not work without a stirrer)
Musenovna
Maria, why not?! Remove the cache attachment and turn on the heating.
Masinen
Katerina, but you still need to turn on the speed.
I went to cook soup in TMchik))
Very comfortably.
pulkeria
Masinen, Mashul, I would also like to add Kesha and am not at all ready to part in TM. By the way, today I cooked soup with MK in it. Alas, there were no shrimps, so rusks from AFochka were used. Is it really problematic to wash?
Masinen
Yes, not really, just the bowl is heavy and large)
By the way, the nozzles for 86 cache and 20 are heavy !!
Therefore, I will not particularly like to wash off the porridge))
I made in it for the recipe German cabbage, dressing. I extinguished in a cache. Then the smell of course remained, but it went away with time.
You can cook in it, I don't mind at all if you need a lot)
pulkeria
Here, Mashun, you drove me straight into doubts)))) I will now wait when TM for 5 liters comes out
Masinen
Well, you're in vain))
You know how kesha kneads the dough, well, it's just a miracle !!! only for this it must be taken!
And he kneads rye with a bang!
Pchela maja
Have you seen such a beast?))))
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there are more and more of them))))))
pulkeria
Pchela maja, the most interesting thing is that we are just now learning about them. But in fact, both superkuk and secret and TM have long been on the European market. The supercook already has 3 or 4 models. And the secret is not the first.
selenа
pulkeria, Yul, I will say even more - and the same sellers sell them. It is a pity that nothing new except induction was added in some models, somewhere else the knives are covered with a special trick, but as they say "this song is not new." And only the founding fathers can add something new and they are in Forwerk.
Pchela maja
It’s strange that induction was not added to the new thermomix when competitors already have it ...
Masinen
Pchela maja, with induction it would cost a stolnik of thousands. And who would buy it? Yes nobody)
Pchela maja
I agree, the price would have skyrocketed like a new Mac with a retina))))))
80tr - already it seems to me inhumane ...))
Vei
in the right way, they had to lower the price by 31, and sell the new one at the usual price of the same 58 thousand. Otherwise, they completely lost the feeling of reality
Pchela maja
In general, this is usually done.
I here on Facebook read angry messages from buyers who bought the 31st model at full price, and after 2 weeks or even a month a new model came out.
So much indignation that no one warned them about it.
Found a new thermomix, but something strange is somehow inexpensive 700 euros, a scam or what?
5 ads from this seller.
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Here in the video, the girl talks in detail about all the changes in the new model


Size comparison
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Masinen
I watched the video on YouTube.
Actually the bowl is wider and the steamer is taller.
The Germans cook according to built-in recipes.
And one German woman gently kissed TM31))
in general, 31 models are still driving, even among the Germans!
Pchela maja
She wouldn’t have kissed him! I already love him in absentia!)
straight my biggest wishlist, soon it will be dreaming already)
by the way, my husband still does not know, well, let him sleep well))))
pulkeria
Pchela maja, oh I remember how I raved about them at one time after the presentation
selenа
Girls, induction is not always "zeer good", I would not chase after it very much in such devices, and it can not raise the price much. I am not very enthusiastic according to the reviews of other users and in my communication with the induction cooker. It warmed up quickly, everything quickly "burned out", quickly cooled down - that's how it works for me, at least. And in general, I’m never a physicist and I don’t understand - the product heats up and does not heat the dishes, some kind of shamanism for me.

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