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Linadoc
Checkmark, sea buckthorn oil is good in 2-3 days from the moment of injury.
Quote: Loksa
Puncture the blisters?
Oksan, it is better to pierce and treat with alcohol, then a sterile bandage.
Quote: Galina Iv.
we will also be blown away soon
From the right flour will not spread ... I hope
Galina Iv.
Lina, what does the right flour mean? I always bought a / c "Predportovaya", St. Petersburg, this time I bought - not white, but gray.
Bought rye, not baked yet. Which oven should you use? In the store I saw rice, oatmeal)
Loksa
Linadoc, I thought so!
I have the right flour - hard varieties!
Galina Iv.
Loksa, Oksana, but where can I get her ?? and what kind of flour is this and what to bake from it ??
Loksa
Galina Iv.I liked the flour from Dixie. And the correct hard varieties can be with bran, and whole grains, but I don't eat very much, I stopped baking on it. I like to add buckwheat to ordinary flour - for color, it turns out gray bread.
I bought hard varieties in the "wook" - it happens in a prism. But it costs 100 r - 2 kg, I took it for a test, or rather, gave me a lift to this store and had to choose from them. There was also makfa, but to try it is sacred!
Galina Iv.
Oksana, but with bran and hard varieties is it really the same thing ???
Loksa
No, this is a different flour, there are hard and soft wheat varieties, everything grows

from flour from soft varieties, but I think if there is always like New Year's, everything grows from hard varieties!
Linadoc
Quote: Galina Iv.
and what does the right flour mean?
I just ran home. The answer is - the right flour - flour that contains vitamins, minerals, fiber, essential amino acids, and not just ballast carbohydrates. The correct flour is usually high in ash content. As the main one, it is flour of 1 and 2 grades (by no means the highest!), Whole grain, spelled, spelled, durum wheat, rye. As an additional one to increase ash content and biological benefits - oat, sesame, corn, buckwheat. Rice and flour of the highest grade - one useless ballast, gives only a feeling of fullness, is deposited in fat and fills the intestines.
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
Luda, the casseroles are excellent! I will definitely do it! In PP.
Linochka, thanks! Cook in your Princess! I think it will work out even faster in it.
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
Lyudochka, we don't accept excuses !! Why chase my husband for water, trot 200 meters to the well, quickly undress, douche and take your time home Girls, dear ones, I’m with you even to Mars, but can I stand aside at the ice hole, wrapping myself in a fur coat? A? You have no idea how much I am a greenhouse plant !! Do not ruin !! Every day I will cut a hole for you, clear the approach to it, but do not throw me there .. do not nadaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Yeah, that means that you direct me to an overview of the entire village (the well is just in the center of the village), and bushes fur coat ... Not ... will not work. You are a northern maiden, and I am a southern one, warmth for me is a natural environment ... I must be a hundred times colder. Well all right ... Together we will jump. I will immediately put on a fur coat on you ...
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
The answer is - the right flour - flour that contains vitamins, minerals, fiber, essential amino acids, and not just ballast carbohydrates. flour of the highest grade is one useless ballast, gives only a feeling of fullness, is deposited in fat and fills the intestines.
Damn ... Girls, I just don't like this healthy flour. I also added bran to bread, and baked for 1, 2 grade. Well, I can't eat this bread.The husband does not resist, eats, but from the next trip to the city he brings himself store loaves. And this is a blow below the belt for a baker ... it's better to stop eating bread altogether than to bake and then feed the birds. By the way, for 15 years I haven't eaten any bread and rolls at all. It was good for the body. Probably, we need to return to this.
Anatolyevna
lappl1, Lyudochka! I can't live without bread, I'm hungry. : girl-yes: I like bread on 1st grade flour, you can only buy a large bag (50 kg) from us.
Loksa
lappl1, and for aesthetic reasons, I like the highest grade more - it makes bread more beautiful, and when I want gray, I add buckwheat flour. I was also told that the loaves have a strange, healthy taste, the rolls are tasty, so we ate them, but we just can't finish the whole grain ... I slowly slip it everywhere.
lappl1
Tonya, this is a matter of habit. When you don't bake your own bread, it is very easy to get used to eating without bread. When we moved to Vyazma, we never found any edible bread (in stores). So I lived without bread for six months until I remembered that I have CP. Then I came across our site ... And off we go ... Well, how not to eat your bread? It's like cake, delicious ... even better ...
lappl1
Quote: Loksa
and for aesthetic reasons, I like the highest grade more - it makes bread more beautiful, and when I want gray, I add buckwheat flour. I was also told that the loaves have a strange, healthy taste, the rolls are tasty, so we ate them, but we just can't finish the whole grain ... I slowly slip it everywhere.
Oksana, yes, the bread from the tower is a handsome man. And I also slip it ... to myself ... But you can't fool yourself ... Therefore, very often I forget to do it (on purpose) .. When I weigh flour, I close my eyes to containers with useful flour ...
Linadoc
When in the 1st World War they began to feed the soldiers with bread from flour, it turned out that the soldiers became sleepy and lethargic, with a bad reaction and began to get sick. Then Nicholas 2 signed an order to deploy marching bakeries in the troops and bake bread from 1, 2 grade flour and wholemeal. The soldiers immediately became active and cheerful, they stopped getting sick. Draw your own conclusions.
Checkmark, okay, don't jump into the hole! But then you have to get up on the skis (and then, after 20-25 kilometers, wipe off with snow).
Elena Kadiewa
Lina, you are a sadist (albeit a very good person). This is me about swimming.
I also bake my husband with bran, grade 1 (although it is very difficult to buy it from us), with wheat germ, with flax seed, with the addition of rye, oatmeal, buckwheat, etc., and my sons and I only have the highest. sort, although anyone can eat it from me.
Linadoc
Quote: elena kadiewa
Lina, you are a sadist (albeit a very good person).
... This is, apparently, professional ... Although I myself am both in the hole and on the skis ... probably, I am also a masochist ... Yes, for sure - I also torture myself with bread "useful"
Elena Kadiewa
And a very self-critical human being ...
lappl1
Quote: Linadoc
When in the 1st World War they began to feed the soldiers with bread from flour, it turned out that the soldiers became sleepy and lethargic, with a bad reaction and began to get sick. Then Nicholas 2 signed an order to deploy marching bakeries in the troops and bake bread from 1, 2 grade flour and wholemeal. The soldiers immediately became active and cheerful, they stopped getting sick. Draw your own conclusions.
Conclusions? I draw such conclusions that Nicholas II loved Russia and its people more than the current rulers. I don’t want (and don’t like) to get into politics, but if you look at the price tags for premium and healthy flour, then the comparison is not in our favor.
Elena Kadiewa
Yes, there is a problem with flour, you can buy a healthy shish, but we still have a small town, there is no choice, and until they bring us to the north, the egg, as they say, is golden. Xun, how are your pens better? And then let's blow. I, too, often bake Omelkin's loaves, her recipes are generally clean, and lately I've been using figs without recipes at all, by eye, though I bake in the oven and it works! I really like it! Lyudochka, we tried the cake now in the morning, the biscuit is dry, it was necessary to soak it in syrup, but the cream is crazy!
lappl1
Quote: elena kadiewa
We tried the cake now in the morning, the biscuit is dry, it was necessary to soak it in syrup, but the cream is crazy!
Helen, well Duc biscuits are always soaked. Without this, there is nowhere .... I soaked mine with raspberry syrup with my raspberry wine. Mmmmm.
Galina Iv.
So you started talking about syrups and I remembered that I have left a jar with Ivan-Chayevsky honey at my dacha, will the jar freeze?
Linochka, dear, you can't scare me with skis, it's easy!

At the institute she ran for the institute's national team and was the 1st adult category in skiing, ran in Arkhangelsk for 5 years along the Northern Dvina. Now at the dacha.


I will accelerate on them so that I will slip past the ice hole and run home
lappl1
Quote: Galina Iv.
I have a jar with Ivan-Chayevsky honey left at the dacha, will the jar freeze?
Not ... Frost is not terrible for syrup ... There is not much moisture there.
Galina Iv.
Luda, I think so too, it's not a compote, I'll take it this weekend.
Natalia-NN
Quote: lappl1
but if you look at the price tags for premium and healthy flour, the comparison is not in our favor.

This is stopping me too. As they say, the toad strangles. And that's why I sometimes add bran or rye flour. Sometimes flaxseed.

Girls, I brewed the leftovers of apple tea yesterday. There is some cherry, willow tea and black chokeberry. until the new is not enough. But I did the first time on a trial by a little. Eh. the season would be faster. Hands itch.

and who has already sown what for seedlings?
lappl1
I somehow forgot in the not working refrigerator on the veranda 10 cans of 0.5 liters of fresh currants, rubbed with sugar. I remembered about her when the 30-degree frosts defended a week. When I remembered, I thought it was the end of her. I took one jar home and put it in my home refrigerator. And a couple of days later I opened it. In general, as soon as I twisted it - both the aroma and the taste - everything was preserved. The rest did not bother.
And you have everything cooked and boiled. So everything is OK.
lappl1
Quote: Natalia-65
Girls, I brewed the leftovers of apple tea yesterday. There is some cherry, willow tea and black chokeberry. until the new is not enough. But I did the first time on a trial by a little. Eh. the season would be faster. Hands itch.
And don't tell me, Natasha ... When I am out for a walk, I turn to Ivan-tea ... I look at the dry stems, as if I expect the snow to melt and Ivan-tea will hatch, like in "12 months" snowdrops ...
Quote: Natalia-65
and who has already sown what for seedlings?
I'm waiting for the team of our Michurinists ...
Marika33
Quote: Natalia-65
and who has already sown what for seedlings?
I'm going to sow celery and petunias, it's time already.
lappl1
Marina, root celery?
Marika33
Luda, I grow root and petiole. It was already necessary to sow in order to get normal roots. And I mainly freeze the petiole, then add it to soups, stews and minced meat for cutlets.
lappl1
And I only grow foliage. I sow it immediately into the soil, although the bags say that it is necessary through the seedlings. And so it grows violently .... I, along with the parsley, then for a long time tear it out from under the snow.
Marika33
Lyuda, to get roots and petioles, you need only through seedlings. I didn't grow a leaf, but it looks like parsley.
Galina Iv.
Girls, my

without exaggeration long-term

horticultural experience says - Checkmark, don't drive horses.
We read:
The ideal time for sowing celery root seeds for seedlings is the end of February. Leaf celery seeds can be sown ten days later. It is very important to correctly prepare the seeds for sowing. The problem is that they contain a lot of essential oils, which significantly inhibit their swelling and germination. Often, especially with a lack of moisture, seeds can remain unchanged in the soil for up to 25 days. Therefore, before sowing, such seeds must be germinated.
A source: 🔗

I plant only leaf and petiole, take a bowl, scatter the seeds over the surface, do not fill them up, take snow and cover the surface with it, the snow melts, the seeds are pressed in and, in extreme cases, germinate in a week, the bowl is preliminarily into a bag and into the heat.
I sow in March.
Marika33
Quote: Galina Iv.
Often, especially with a lack of moisture, seeds can remain unchanged in the soil for up to 25 days. Therefore, before sowing, such seeds must be germinated.
Galina, last year I read that the seeds need to be kept in vodka, it dissolves the essential oils from the seeds and they sprout quickly. I followed this advice and did so. Soaked the seeds for 15 minutes and then rinsed with cold water. I slightly dried them and sowed them. After 4 days, I already have seedlings! it has never happened before. And one more nuance, the seeds need light, you can't cover the box with something dense, you need lighting.
But the seedlings must also be dived in time for it to develop normally.
lappl1
And I have even and without these dances sprout in a week. I sow in May, immediately into the soil. Since autumn, my beds have been covered with leaves. During the winter, they crumble under the snow. With a sharp knife, I cut through a ribbon of leaves a couple of centimeters wide. I remove this tape in the aisle and leave it there. And I sprinkle seeds (of any crops) on the land, which we grow through seeds. From above I fall asleep with earth from another place (from moles more often), I water it from a shower-watering can. So that is all. It grows by itself - without loosening and weeding. Over the season, I add mulch several times until the leaves close. I hardly water it. Only occasionally during drought.
lappl1
Girls, here is a photo on May 16, 2013 Sowed in early May. You see, all sorts of parsley, celery, salads have already sprouted in the garden ... Mulch from leaves and hay has been lying since autumn. I did not dig the beds, did not loosen them, sowed them directly on the ground.

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
paramed1
Hello, hello everyone! So I came back ... Since the beginning of the year, a lot of problems and troubles. But we passed through everything more or less. I read everything, but I didn't have the strength to write. And then about the seeds !!! People, do not forget that we all live on different lands and in different climatic conditions. And everyone has to grow seedlings differently. Luda cannot be guided by black soil, and the advice of St. Petersburg residents will in no way suit the Moscow suburban summer residents.
Lyuda, leaf celery can and like you, right into the ground, will rise and grow. And the root and petiolate through seedlings, they have a different maturation time. If you are going to sow, then it is enough in mid-February, as Galya wrote, on the surface of the soil, pour cold water from a spray bottle or sow over the snow, cover with foil. Petunias will bloom in June as well.
Middle lane! Galya correctly said that there was no need to drive horses. Lina gives the correct dates - March, for peppers, eggplant, two weeks later - tomatoes, but indeterminate and early ripe. These will definitely ripen.
If the seeds are sown early, then the seedlings will outgrow and will take root for a long time when planting. Younger seedlings are easier to transplant and grow faster.
Last year, tomatoes were sown on March 30, peppers and eggplants on the 15th. I watered, in accordance with my method, with a very weak (1 tsp for 3 l of water) solution of complex fertilizer, micro and macro. The seedlings, even with a lack of light at the beginning, were very green and strong. And everything has matured. Well, of course, not all the fruits that were set, since we live without a greenhouse, only under the shelter, but the rest reached under the stairs.
We drink tea. The guests are trying to beg for them. Some of the relatives are ready to experiment "in the field".
lappl1
Veronica, honey, hello! Already missed a long time ago! It's good that you are with us again. In the sense that you write. I really sympathize with you and empathize with you. You and I, hold on.
Thank you very much for the gardening educational program. I'm a beginner gardener. I don't meet any deadlines. At the time when it is necessary to plant - sow, we have migration cases. We leave for Smolensk several times in April-May. So, as time falls, I am busy with the garden. everything always grows. And enough. I even give out a lot. I think that if we grow everything according to science, according to calendars and taking into account the conditions of our area of ​​residence, then this will already be exemplary farming. And I do not strive for this. And I strive to ensure that less wasting over the scent. Mulch is all that helps me to be lazy and get a good, healthy and tasty harvest. Now, in the light of the knowledge that I have, I am even afraid to imagine what I will have!
Galina Iv.
Luda, thank you for the photo of the warm garden, right now you can see everything clearly. Gorgeous!
lappl1
Galya, I'm glad you liked it. It seems to me that I do not have warm beds, but simply fenced ones. In the warm bottom layer there are all sorts of organic residues, manure, on top - earth. And I just have earth, and on top - mulch. A very handy thing - these beds. but they are not suitable for everything (for me, anyway0. Cool greens, radishes, cucumbers, garlic, cabbage, strawberries live and grow in them. But carrots, beets, pumpkins, zucchini, onions feel better in an ordinary garden bed. Thank God that we did not make the whole garden like this.
By the way, girls, no one tried to plant potatoes through seedlings? This year I want to do one bed for early potatoes this year. Put it under the film.
Natalia-NN
Quote: lappl1
girls, no one tried to plant potatoes through seedlings?


At a previous job, a colleague spread potato seedlings in boxes, and then planted them, as she ate young potatoes very early. But I think it is very troublesome, and a lot of space is needed.
I'm experimenting with potatoes this year. I planted small potatoes under the substitute, mulched them, let's see what happens in the spring.

You should have seen how my husband and I planted her. We walked around the garden with a bucket and looked around so that the neighbors would not see. Many are already spinning at their temples that we plant them in un-dug ground and are surprised that we practically do not have fields and do not loosen them with the harvest. And here, before winter, potatoes, as if they would have called an ambulance.
lappl1
Girls, I found more pictures. We did the fenced beds in October 2012. It can be seen how they are littered with hay before winter. And next to it the mustard turns green. I sowed it as a Sederate. Toward winter, she left blooming. The snow crushed her. In the spring we only raked the stems, but the roots remained in the ground. At this place, then all the flavors were purled not like a child. And the land was wonderful ...

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

By the way, winter garlic has been planted on one of the beds littered with hay and leaves. I planted the garlic, filled it up with hay, in the spring he found his own way. The photo shows how little hay is left in the garlic beds in the spring. During the winter, everything was processed and fertilized the land. Then I added hay once. And until the very harvest, she did not touch the garlic - did not water, did not weed, did not loosen. He grew up, darling, with a fist.

Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)
lappl1
Quote: Natalia-65
But I think it is very troublesome, and a lot of space is needed.
Natasha, what's so complicated about that? I planted potatoes in boxes, and then in the beds. That's all the trouble. And I have enough space.
Quote: Natalia-65
You should have seen how my husband and I planted her. We walked around the garden with a bucket and looked around so that the neighbors would not see. Many are already spinning at their temples that we plant them in un-dug ground and are surprised that we practically do not have fields and do not loosen them with the harvest. And here, before winter, potatoes, as if they would have called an ambulance.
I do not pay attention to the neighbors and do not look back. They were also surprised and gossiped at first. And as they saw the result, they also began to mulch with leaves and hay. But they continue to dig anyway.
By the way, with inattentive harvesting of potatoes, a lot of it remains in the ground. It then sprouts and grows in the wrong place (on the tracks). I will not say that it was better than the one planted in the spring. even worse. But this is understandable - I trample it all the time when I collect Colorado beetles. This year I will mercilessly pull the bushes off the paths.
Natasha, I'm wondering when to plant potatoes for seedlings in boxes. I'll probably go to the dacha forums. I once read about it there.
paramed1
Lyuda, you can plant potatoes not as seedlings, but put a film on the garden bed for a couple of days to warm up the soil, plant potatoes to a depth of 6-8 cm, level and tightly tighten the film over the soil. As soon as it hatches, and it will be fast, raise the film on arcs 40-50 cm high. Hold it until the tops rests in the film. Estessno, ventilate. I did so, the potato outstripped the usual decently. Especially if the early variety is planted, then it will already be in June. Yes, I haven’t hilled it yet, I have grown a lot anyway.
paramed1
More about potatoes. Once upon a time I propagated rare varieties and planted with layering, the tubers germinated in a box, then I dug up, pulled off the sprouts and planted again. So it happened 3 times.From one sprout, 3-4 potatoes were obtained, and there were about 20 sprouts.
Natalia-NN
Quote: lappl1
with inattentive harvesting of potatoes, a lot of it remains in the ground.

This is what prompted me to land in the winter. We did not stomp, and therefore the potatoes were good, large, and even.

Ludmila, and your beds are gorgeous. How long are they? This year I want to move the beds to another site, where the potatoes grew, and how long to do, what would be convenient, I can not decide. My old beds are very long, 12 m each.It seems to me that this is superfluous, and it is difficult to work, but the mother-in-law did these beds and the crops were grown for two families, 4 people each, and now we are growing for one.
lappl1
Natasha. Thank you ! I don't remember exactly how long it is. It seems to be 4 m. Width - for greenery - 45 cm and the rest are 90 cm each. It's convenient for me. I come up, if necessary, from 2 sides. Only here the distance between the beds needs to be done more. otherwise it is difficult to squeeze between them in July. I have, in my opinion, 70 cm. I would now make 1 meter. I have enough land for this.
lappl1
Quote: paramed1
you can plant potatoes not as seedlings, but put a film on the garden bed for a couple of days to warm the soil, plant potatoes to a depth of 6-8 cm, level and tightly tighten the film over the soil.
Veronica, thank you very much! In general, you have to try. I want to plant only 10 tubers. While we eat them, the planted one will arrive in time at the usual time. I will try in every way. While there is no tea, other experiments can be carried out. that's just to decide on the timing.
paramed1
Luda, then plant it under the film, on May 1-2, warm the soil, and plant it boldly on May 4-5. I also plant a little, 54 tubers on an 8 m garden bed and harvest the finished product in mid-July. About 15 to 1, no less. I do not huddle.
Natalya, to make it convenient, it is better not to make long beds, you need transverse aisles. Better not one by 12 m, but 2 to 6 and a passage between them. More convenient length is 4-6 m, maximum 8.

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