Lozja
Tan, so in our cartoons the essence is the same. When something is stewed for a long time with a large amount of liquid, and the lid is not opened for a long time, then condensation also collects - be healthy. The only difference in this regard is that we always have a valve for 12 hours, without any tricks.
yara
Quote: Lozja

When something is stewed for a long time with a large amount of liquid, and the lid is not opened for a long time, then condensation also collects - be healthy.
Oksana, and how do you fight this? I've already put in rags, and dabbed with washcloths, and burned more than once
Lozja
Quote: yara

Oksana, and how do you fight this? I've already put in rags, and dabbed with washcloths, and burned more than once

I also blot it as soon as I open the lid. I have a gauze on duty near the multi, and there are still a hundred spare gauzes in the box.
azaza
Not, Oksan, you are not right. We have a one-piece lid, removable in the 60th. This time. And valves of different designs, which again plays a very significant role.
These two differences are already more than enough for a very serious difference in operation.
It is embarrassing that in two seemingly identical 60s there is such a difference with the formation of condensation. Even more embarrassing is the fact that Yara's condensation falls not only on the multi body and into the saucepan itself, but per heating element... This is completely unacceptable, in my opinion. At least you will get bored then clean this element if it is made of the same metal as in the 50-ke. And if the ten burns out ?!
By the way, I have a disk in Liberton that looks the same, but as long as I use it, not a single speck has appeared on it, except for the stuck piece of paint from the saucepan itself. And the dex disc has to be cleaned regularly. Although I use it so carefully, I control the bottom of the saucepan for cleanliness and dryness ...
yara
Quote: Lozja

I also blot it as soon as I open the lid. I have a gauze on duty near the multi, and there are still a hundred spare gauzes in the box.
I have burned my hands more than once because of these rags. Now I am trying to wrap the rag on a silicone stirrer and only then blot the water.

Quote: azaza

Even more embarrassing is the fact that Yara's condensation falls not only on the multi body and into the saucepan itself, but per heating element... This is completely unacceptable, in my opinion. At least you will get bored then clean this element if it is made of the same metal as in the 50-ke. And if the ten burns out ?!
By the way, I have a disk in Liberton that looks the same, but as long as I use it, not a single speck has appeared on it, except for the stuck piece of paint from the saucepan itself. And the dex disc has to be cleaned regularly. Although I use it so carefully, I control the bottom of the saucepan for cleanliness and dryness ...
That's why I'm asking. The heating disc is already streaked
azaza
I, too, take a rag in my hand before I open the lid. I'm used to it. But I don't have such a thing that I don't have time to wipe the water off the lid. The maximum is a puddle on the sides, so they are designed to catch condensation. Nothing gets into the saucepan, and even more so on the disc.
azaza
Quote: yara

I have burned my hands more than once because of these rags. Now I am trying to wrap the rag on a silicone stirrer and only then blot the water.
Poor girl. My hands are also very sensitive to temperature. But to burn with a rag for condensate - this was not (mmm). Is there something wrong with the valve? It seems to me that this should not be. But again, I have a different model with a different cover and valve.
And I clean the heating disc regularly. Not because it is pathological cleanliness, but simply it is easier to clean fresh stains.I can't understand why they arise! There is no water, I put the pots dry. And spots appear more or less regularly. Shaitan, however
yara
Quote: azaza

Poor girl. My hands are also very sensitive to temperature. But to burn with a rag for condensate - this was not (mmm).
I burn myself not with a rag, but with the edge of a saucepan, because when I open it, the water pours onto the sides and I catch it. And there is very little space between the lid and the edge of the pan, I involuntarily touch the pan with my fingers. So now I'm trying to wrap a rag on something (if I don't forget).
yara
Quote: azaza

Maybe you have a different side design? I never touch the saucepan with my fingers. I have a rag calmly enters all the cracks
Only my little finger can get between the lid and the edge of the pan. But in order to get the water wet, you need to reach the bottom of the recess, that is, still stick a rag there, and with it your fingers
Well, not in one of me so? I will wait, maybe someone else will respond from the owners of DEX.
yara
Quote: azaza

But why stick your fingers with a rag ?! And if just a rag? In several folds for greater rigidity, for example? I have a special kitchen cloth, in two folds - and everything is OK.
Yes? And what is this "special" cloth? Oksana generally uses gauze and somehow does not burn. And I
Lozja
Tanya, why did I write that the essence is the same - because here Yara is 60th, and mine is 50th, and the situation is absolutely the same. Of course, it is not always there - this condensation, depending on what and how to extinguish. And sometimes, when there is really a lot of it, I also do not have time to catch anything, as it is already on the heating element - it makes such a sound pshshsh. This is when there is so much of it that it goes beyond the sides, while I just opened the lid. This rarely happens, but it does happen. And I also have divorces, but I do not suffer very much about this, because all my life I have been dealing with electric stoves and electric burners, and in the cartoon at the bottom it is she who is - like in an electric stove. Well, it will never be possible to keep the burners perfectly clean, even with a very strong desire. It's just that they are dark, because every speck is not so visible on them, but in the cartoon it is light.
Lozja
Quote: yara

Yes? And what is this "special" cloth? Oksana generally uses gauze and somehow does not burn. And I

So I also fold or crumple the gauze so that the layer is thicker, and then I climb to wipe off the hot condensate. Sometimes only the gauze itself burns if it is heavily saturated with hot liquid.
yara
Quote: Lozja

Of course, it is not always there - this condensation, depending on what and how to extinguish.
I just don't have it on baked goods.
Quote: Lozja

And sometimes, when there is really a lot of it, I also do not have time to catch anything, as it is already on the heating element - it makes such a sound pshshsh. This is when there is so much of it that it goes beyond the sides, while I just opened the lid. This rarely happens, but it does happen.
If rarely
Quote: Lozja

And I also have divorces, but I don't really suffer about this ... Well, it will never be possible to keep the burners perfectly clean, even with a very strong desire. It's just that they are dark, because every speck is not so visible on them, but in the cartoon it is light.
And I don't suffer, but this
Quote: Lozja
I do not have time to catch anything, as it is already on the heating element - it makes such a sound pshshsh.
so annoying
azaza
Quote: yara

Yes? And what is this "special" cloth? Oksana generally uses gauze and somehow does not burn. And I
Yar, there are no new rags. I will buy - I will exhibit, and I will show the packaging. In the meantime, old ones, because sorry for their shabby:
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
These are two side by side. It looks like "Freken Bock", but I'm not sure. When dry, they shrink and become very tough. Wet it - they again acquire elasticity. Absorbs moisture very well. Recommend! There are three rags in the set, the price of the issue is an unfortunate 5.50 in the nearest supermarket.

Oksan, I have never had such a condensate falling on a hot disc !!! I don't have so much water that I don't have time to catch it. At the same time, I cook only in cartoons, I don't remember the last time I turned on the stove. I can't say that I open the lid too often, catching water in portions. On the contrary, I often open the lid only once, after the dish is ready and the heat has been kept for quite a long time. And the cartoon never chokes with condensation!
As for the heating discs, I have already said: in Libera, the disc is outwardly absolutely identical to the dex one, but no stains are formed on it.
Lozja
So, I'm bringing clarity. When I rarely spoke, I meant precisely those cases when there are so many of them that over the edge. And so, of course, there is almost always condensation, just usually there is not much of it and it fits in the elastic of the lid.

Tan, it happens to me. And what should Yara and I think about this? About inept hostesses? But when you cook soup, and then open the cartoon, after a long boil, what little condensation? I have a lot.
As a matter of conjecture - precisely because of its high power in Dax, in comparison with Liberton, during cooking, under a closed lid, some drops of condensate fall under the saucepan and form streaks. Precisely because the power and condensation are too much to evaporate completely or remain in droplets on the lid. Otherwise, where would stains come from with a completely dry burner and a completely dry saucepan?
This is not a fact, these are just reflections on the topic.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

And what should Yara and I think about this? About inept hostesses?
Oksan, well, why? And what is the ineptitude ?!
I think that the units, although they came off the same conveyor, each has its own personality. The most striking example is sewing machines. Model brands seem to be the same, but characters and "handwriting" simply cannot be compared. So with cartoons, I think the same thing. Somewhere the gap is a little more, a little less - the result is different. Somewhere the power of the cable is greater (or the voltage in the network) - that's the difference for you. Do not distort, please. By the way, I am that mistress. As my husband once put it, he is my boss, and I’m a hazy, I didn’t pull for more in those days. Now, overlaid with devices, I’m trying to pretend to be something. I have turned to the housekeeping for the last couple of years, before that I don’t know who was more afraid of whom: I was the kitchen, or she was me

And about the heating disc - you know, maybe it darkens by itself? Because this characteristic "pshshsh" has never happened. And there was never water. Here either I overlook the bottom of the saucepan, or it gets dark myself. And one more comparison with Lieber: there is just condensation, it happens, and it drips, but there are still no spots. The metal is apparently different. And I have more condensation in Libera, despite its lower capacity. And there is also a condensate groove that is shallower, almost flat. Therefore, no, no, and something will drop somewhere. But this again does not affect the cleanliness of the disk.
Bonyasha
And I have a lot of condensation. The bottom is already getting redder from it. I can't just wipe it with water, but I'm afraid to rub it with something more aggressive. Suddenly, then the current starts to beat?
But I decided not to bother, Except me, no one sees this bottom. When the lid is opened, a towel is also on the ready and everything that turns out I absorb. And the process and taste of cooking does not affect by any means. Well then, figs with him
Deep
Quote: yara

Maybe someone else will respond, like you do with condensate?
Well, for example, I responded. Everything is bad with condensation, Yara, just like you. I blot constantly, but some of it inevitably gets under the saucepan. Therefore, during cooking, I try not to open the lid abruptly. And somehow I open it quite a bit, then part of the condensate flows into the pan, and not onto the side.
I also tried to open (and even remove) the valve before opening the lid so that excess moisture would come out - but all these methods are ineffective.
This is a very unpleasant flaw.
Cartoon developers can you hear me ???
))
Vinochek
Experiment Results. True, a little unclean, as I added frozen vegetables.
There is condensation, but if it had not been for the question that arose, I would not have paid attention to it - there is nothing special to blot in my opinion.
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
it's a lot? need to blot? there is no condensation on the other side of the castor and in the middle of this side. Under the saucepan too.
Well, here's the stew itself
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
azaza
On the subject of condensation. I posted my experiment in the Dex-50 branch https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=89830.new#new
yara
Quote: Vinochek

Experiment Results ...
Vinochek, there is still condensation, it has gathered on the elastic band, and I see that the droplets have hit the pan. But this characteristic "pshshsh" never heard?
It seems to me that you are like everyone else, you just bother less. By the way, like Bonyasha:
Quote: Bonyasha

And I have a lot of condensation. The bottom is already getting redder from it. ... does not affect the process and taste of food preparation in any way. Well then, figs with him

Deep
Quote: Deep

Everything is bad with condensation, Yara, just like you. I blot constantly, but some of it inevitably gets under the saucepan.
This is a very unpleasant flaw. Cartoon developers can you hear me ??? ))

irysska
By the way, I think that dark spots on the heating element appear not from condensation from the lid, but from the saucepan itself during the cooling process - after all, when our cupcake cools down, for example, it kind of "sweats" in it. This is what happens to the bowl - both the heating disc and the bowl are hot - this is the bottom of the bowl and "sweats" a little. But I think so. Because if spots appeared from condensation from the lid, then most likely this very condensate would flow under the heating element, and not onto it.
irysska
Well, about my impressions. Condensation doesn't bother me - it's a matter of habit. When I cook, there is a cloth near the cartoon - if necessary, I wipe it. I don't know, maybe I just didn't pay much attention, but I didn't notice any special rivers. Most of the condensate flows down to the sides, some is collected in a rubber band. If something very wet and wet is being prepared and I open the lid - it happens that some of the condensate gets into the contents of the saucepan - well, it doesn't matter.
By the way, so that condensate does not drip from the steam valve onto the furniture when opening the lid, I take a paper napkin, fold it into a square and slip it into the recess near the valve (where the sticker "Caution is hot, etc.)
Vinochek
Apparently, this amount of condensation does not bother me either, since there is not much on the elastic, but the elastic is worth it for him))), but quite a bit gets on the sides and if it were not for the experiment, I would not have noticed.
Lozja
Quote: mylik.sv

Good day to all happy owners of multicooker! Now in Kiev, DEX-60 has abruptly disappeared in all online stores, and I have already targeted it so specifically Tell me, maybe who knows, this is some kind of marketing ploy? What's the catch? Wait for the summer (they say - will) or spit and buy 50? Reviews are very good Help, people are kind, otherwise I broke my head! Well, I really want to right now!

Well, 50 is not very different and also a very good cartoon. This is not a marketing move, it is they who come to Ukraine all the time - in jerks. They just rarely import, but buy up quickly, so the breaks are big.
Lozja
Quote: mylik.sv

Thanks for the quick response! But all the same, I can't decide whether to take 50 or wait for the arrival of 60, model 50 seems to be prettier, and more compact Well, the price, of course ...

The most important plus for me personally in the 60th model is the removable lid, which can be removed after each cooking and washed normally. Well, for many, the most important thing is Manual mode. Another program Milk porridge is also good. But I can completely manage without all this in 50, and this despite the fact that I live now without a stove at all, with one cartoon, my handsome 50 model is enough for me. And yes, it is one and a half times more compact, even its box is much smaller than that of the 60th Dax.
And then think.
azaza
Quote: mylik.sv

Thanks for the quick response! But all the same, I can't decide whether to take 50 or wait for the arrival of 60, model 50 seems to be prettier, and more compact Well, the price, of course ...
Well, if 50 is looking at you, take it! An excellent unit, a model worked out to the smallest detail. For the first time, I also regretted that I had not taken a 60-ku. And now I think I did the right thing. Although 60 is an excellent slow cooker! Choose by function. If you need yogurt, take 60.Another 60 is "sharpened" under milk. In the 50's, the stewing milk can run away. But on languor (from 5 hours and longer) the porridge turns out to be melted, and most importantly, even the most foamy ones do not escape.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

The most important plus for me personally in the 60th model is the removable lid, which can be removed after each cooking and washed normally.
What I don’t suffer from is the lack of a removable cover! In my Dex, nothing runs away, so you don't need to wash the lid, just wipe it after cooking. In Liberton, a removable lid is sometimes annoying: after each cooking you have to remove and dry. Wash is still not mine - I wipe it with a cloth to remove a few drops of condensation, as in Dex. And it is undesirable not to remove the cover: condensation also accumulates on the inner cover. There is very little of it, but it is there. If you do not dry it, it may "bloom".
So the removable cover is not that important. IMHO, of course.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

What I don’t suffer from is the lack of a removable cover! In my Dex, nothing runs away, so you don't need to wash the lid, just wipe it after cooking. In Liberton, a removable lid is sometimes annoying: after each cooking you have to remove and dry. Wash is still not mine - I wipe it with a cloth to remove a few drops of condensation, as in Dex. And it is undesirable not to remove the cover: condensation also accumulates on the inner cover. There is very little of it, but it is there. If you do not dry it, it may "bloom".
So the removable cover is not that important. IMHO, of course.

And how old is your cartoon, Tanya?
azaza
Half a summer, Ksenia I mean, half a year here. At the end of November I dressed. And Libertoshik is nothing at all - in February they multiplied.
irysska
mylik.sv
The main advantage of Dex 60 is milk porridge, he is a noble cook. I once also fluctuated between 50-60, asked questions, in particular Lozja , claiming that I don't need milk porridge. But it turned out, oh, right. Now they are on our menu much more often, and it's really easy to cook them.
As for the dimensions: in depth, both multi are the same, the only thing that is 60 is higher by a few centimeters and looks more voluminous compared to the 50, because the latter has a beveled muzzle and it is more rounded, and the 60 has no.
Here's a look (photo by forumchanka Sasha)
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
Multicooker Dex DMC-60 (reviews and discussion)
By the way, 60 makes yoghurts great too.
My advice: choose for functionality, not beauty. I do not regret a bit that I took the Dex 60.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Half a summer, Ksenia I mean, half a year here. At the end of November I dressed. And Libertoshik is nothing at all - in February they multiplied.

I, too, a year ago, did not strain the lid, because it did not stink yet. It seems that if I filmed and washed regularly, now this gum would not have such a smell.
That's why I wrote that a removable cover would be a plus for me personally and my one and a half year old Daxik. I didn’t write anything about other Daxiki. To each his own.
Oh, I suddenly remembered how, literally a year ago, I also told here that I didn't need a removable cover in a cartoon at all. It seems that then the IRR was for removable covers, no matter what we say here. And so it happened, she was right.
azaza
Oksan, but it seems to me that the gum from odors is not washed off. I Liberton's soap after the fish - the smell went away only after cooking the next dish.
azaza
Girls, I'm not saying that 50 is better than 60! I'm just saying that both are good. And you need to choose exactly according to the programs, as Iriska says. Well, and on the removable cover, as Lozya says
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Oksan, but it seems to me that the gum from odors is not washed off. I Liberton's soap after the fish - the smell went away only after cooking the next dish.

Tanya, for some reason it seems to me, I don't know where, purely intuitively, what to wipe with a cloth after cooking and wash with detergent under the tap are two different things.
You wait, in a year or so all these smells will be gathered together in one elastic band and in one valve, and there is nothing you can do to wash them and interrupt them. Then remember me, as I now remembered the IRR.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

You wait, in a year or so all these smells will be gathered together in one elastic band and in one valve, and there is nothing you can do to wash them and interrupt them.
I'm afraid my valve won't last that long. I sent a request to Dex - things are still there. As I expected - no answer, no hello. They bought a unit - and as buyers we no longer interest them. And in vain! For example, I am thinking hard what kind of mule to buy a child. She finally had a need. Dex would seem to be out of competition, but buying a new cartoon every time, how a cocoa thread of nonsense like a valve breaks - well, their nafik with their vaunted Dex
irysska
Quote: azaza

Dex would seem to be out of competition, but buying a new cartoon every time, how a cocoa thread of nonsense like a valve breaks - well, their nafik with their vaunted Dex
And you write to them again, you will not lose. The attempt is not torture.
When I didn't have an insert for 5 free Vivo starter cultures in my Dex yogurt maker (I bought a yogurt maker in the Metro), I wrote a letter - they answered me a couple of days later and emailed me the code to receive the starter cultures, although they might not have answered either - but they answered that way
And what a guarantee that all sorts of nonsense for Liberton, for example, can be bought without problems, or for Perfez. Here, at least the saucepans are cool, But I'm not convincing you of anything.
azaza
Quote: irysska

And what a guarantee that all sorts of nonsense for Liberton, for example, can be bought without problems, or for Perfez. Here, at least the saucepans are cool, But I'm not convincing you of anything.
No, no spare parts for the Liebers! The cartoon is good, but if something happens, there is nowhere to go.
For Perfezka there is a chic, non-beefy saucepan, so I look very interested in its direction.
And under Dex's cool pan fits a modest Scarlet. Only she is without baking, an infection. But it is worth it purely symbolically, if something is not a pity to throw it away (which is also important for my very mobile child). And I also look at the Polaris pressure cooker. The price is pleasant, prepares the crochets faster than multi (which is more than appropriate for my busy child). But the saucepan is just over 500 grams !!! And again you can buy a spare horseradish.
So I am racking my head. Whichever cartoon you buy, everything works out at once.
Grypana
Tan, just tell me in my ear - how are you going to ship multi to your child? I have a very sore point, I need to give Dexika to her child. So I pester everyone - will they be allowed to board the plane with clever technology or will they be forced to leave them at home?
azaza
Quote: Grypana

Tan, just tell me in my ear - how are you going to ship multi to your child? I have a very sore point, I need to give Dexika to her child. So I pester everyone - will they be allowed to board the plane with clever technology or will they be forced to leave them at home?
Let them go, Natasha, where will they go? Nyama is on the list of prohibited multicooker! The only thing is that it would be better to put the cord from it in the luggage (theoretically, they can strangle the stewardess, which means they can get stuck). And the cartoon itself, along with the pan, must be skipped. At least that's how I expect to take her there. By plane
Lenok333
Hello everyone)
I cooked buckwheat for the first time last week.
I did everything as needed, poured buckwheat, filled it with water and put buckwheat on the mode.
The instructions say 45-50 minutes. In general, I was waiting, I was waiting, the slider was red, on the penultimate it blinked for a long time.
After about 1 hour 20 minutes, I turned it off without waiting for an automatic shutdown.

Now I'm worried

P.S cooked rice before, everything was ok. turned off after 35 minutes, as needed.
valuhka
mylik.sv, as I understand your doubts! But still, it seems to me personally that you always need to strive for the best (I'm not saying that 50 is bad). For example, I always choose the most functional technique (at the moment) so that all the bells and whistles that may be present in it were there. Correctly the girl spoke about milk porridge and yogurt, even if you have never made them before, then after trying to do it in a cartoon, be sure to repeat it.From my side, this is certainly a rough comparison, but it seems to me to buy "old" (NOT IN THE SENSE-BAD) models, it's like buying a manual meat grinder instead of an electric one. What if you're lucky and by this time there will be an even more improved cartoon
mylik.sv
Girls, thank you very much for your support! Really rushing from one to another! True, I have a yogurt maker and I love her very much (there I cook yoghurt in portioned glasses and it is very convenient for us) Milk porridge is not particularly popular with us, although it is not evening yet - everyone is talking about them so deliciously! Well, the price And the most important thing - I want it right this moment! And, yes - 60 is unknown when they will be. Although, as soon as I started to study Temka, there was only one option - Dex 60!
valuhka
I also have a yogurt-ice maker in addition to 60-ke. But I don't use it, because I need to get it out of the closet, and the cartoon is always on the table. I also make yogurt in a multit in 0.5 cans (3 pieces at a time) and not in a saucepan, so it is much more convenient to store. I, too, look forward to 60 in Ukraine, because my friends have already ordered 2 pieces for me (a day later they ask, have not ordered Liya yet). But they agreed to wait, so there are many waiting for us
yara
Quote: Lenok333

Hello everyone)
I cooked buckwheat for the first time last week.
I did everything as needed, poured buckwheat, filled it with water and put buckwheat on the mode.
The instructions say 45-50 minutes. In general, I was waiting, I was waiting, the slider was red, on the penultimate it blinked for a long time.
After about 1 hour 20 minutes, I turned it off without waiting for an automatic shutdown.
Now I'm worried
P.S cooked rice before, everything was ok. turned off after 35 minutes, as needed.
Strange, of course. And how much buckwheat was there and how much water?
Lenok333
as usual 1 to 2

I cooked rice, everything is fine, the countdown went off after 35-40 minutes, 8 minutes counted and stopped. but it's strange with buckwheat
yara
Quote: Lenok333

as usual 1 to 2
I cooked rice, everything is fine, the countdown went off after 35-40 minutes, 8 minutes counted and stopped. but it's strange with buckwheat
I don’t even know. Does everything work out in all other modes? Try buckwheat again, and if it does not work out, then contact the SC until late.
Lenok333
well, yes, everything is ok.
I think I know what the problem is. I topped up the water in the middle of the regime, because it evaporated very much. and in the same place it seems to react to water, probably it did not turn off because there was water.

let's see in general
Lozja
Quote: Lenok333

well, yes, everything is ok.
I think I know what the problem is. I topped up the water in the middle of the regime, because it evaporated very much. and in the same place it seems to react to water, probably it did not turn off because there was water.

let's see in general

Duck of course! You brought down the program yourself. The multicooker began to swirl in her brain, so she figured out for herself how long to work until she evaporated, and then suddenly once - and according to a clear scenario, at the end there was liquid. The cartoon thought that she had something with her brain and the program should be run again.
scorp111
Dear experts in multicooker, please tell me:
I want to buy my wife a multicooker. I hesitate between Panasonic 10 and Dex 60.
Question: is there a limit on the number of ingredients for preparing a dish?
For example: for milk porridge dex you need at least 1 liter of milk (figuratively), for Panasonic 0.5 liters.
It's just that my wife is not a fan of milk porridge, and my unborn child and I don't need much :).
Thank you.

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