Catwoman
Quote: Lana

Alternatively, you can still remove the agitators at height 2 (fortunately, all stages are displayed on the screen), it does not quite automatically work, but deboning will not be harmful

And again the night of vigil? I just need such a stove so that I can put everything down and go to bed, but this is only possible with leaps and bounds, and my family refuses to eat by leaps and bounds, they are spoiled!
And if you knead the dough, what is the maximum weight?
Lana
Quote: Catwoman

And again the night of vigil? I just need such a stove so that I can put everything down and go to bed, but this is only possible with leaps and bounds, and my family refuses to eat by leaps and bounds, they are spoiled!
And if you knead the dough, what is the maximum weight?
Then take a closer look at kenwood or boron, where boning is disabled. Programming in our "stripped down", I wrote about this earlier.
The dough is positioned 1250 it seems, but 1.5 kg boldly kneads
Catwoman
Quote: Lana

Then take a closer look at kenwood or boron, where boning is disabled. Programming in our "stripped down", I wrote about this earlier.
The dough is positioned 1250 it seems, but 1.5 kg boldly kneads

Bork has a price, but I already had Kenwood, I haven't lived for a year, I don't want to risk it anymore.
Lana
Quote: Catwoman

Bork has a price, but I already had Kenwood, I haven't lived for a year, I don't want to risk it anymore.
As I understand you! after Mulinex I also suffered from the problem of choice .. the binaton did not disappoint for a minute ... look at the Daewoo with the programming mode and two buckets .. it seems Daewoo9154. well, or face it, binaton has a lot of advantages
Catwoman
Quote: Lana

As I understand you! after Mulinex I also suffered from the problem of choice .. the binaton did not disappoint for a minute ... look at the Daewoo with the programming mode and two buckets .. it seems Daewoo9154. well, or face it, binaton has a lot of advantages

Chapay will go to think.
Girls, another request, take a picture inside the stove, a bucket and close a socket, thanks in advance!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Catwoman

Chapay will go to think.
Girls, another request, take a picture inside the stove, a bucket and close a socket, thanks in advance!
Lena, what to focus on when photographing? in the same bucket? both or one?
Sens
soon the brand will come out programmable.
I'm also waiting ...
Catwoman
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Lena, what to focus on when photographing? in the same bucket? both or one?

Ksyusha, both, if not hard, and measure the bucket along the length?
Catwoman
Quote: Sens

soon the brand will come out programmable.
I'm also waiting ...

Does Brend have one bucket? And here you can have a small bread and a large, large bucket for kneading dough. And what will the price be?
Nevushka
Quote: Catwoman

Does Brend have one bucket? And here you can have a small bread and a large, large bucket for kneading dough. And what will the price be?
The price is not yet known, but in terms of functions - the very thing, and the programmable mode is much better there, you can skip the stages. And with the scales right away ..
Catwoman
Quote: Nevushka

The price is not yet known, but in terms of functions - the very thing, and the programmable mode is much better there, you can skip the stages. And with the scales right away ..

Nevushka, thanks, but in your bread maker there is still a kneading between stages, even if 1 sec.? Can't it be canceled in any way?
Nevushka
Quote: Catwoman

Nevushka, thanks, but in your bread maker there is still a kneading between stages, even if 1 sec.? Can't it be canceled in any way?
Yes, there is no way to cancel. That's why I'm looking at the brand myself ...
Catwoman
Quote: Nevushka

Yes, there is no way to cancel. That's why I'm looking at the brand myself ...

I'll probably wait too. Well, at last, if you can't "kill all birds with one stone" at once, I'll buy a little one later.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
I arranged a photo session for HP.As long as I remember, the length along the inner walls of the large bucket turned out to be 22 cm.
Inside
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Socket
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Ponel so glow
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Big bucket from different sides
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Double bucket
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These are the buckets near
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Lena, if you still put the CP in any poses, write, put it and take a picture.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Catwoman

If you can, start the Home Baker, as the time will be!
I'm trying to figure everything out - to figure out what and how to put it. You need to cancel the workout. Can lift 2 for 1 minute and immediately set rise 3. What kind of bread I can't figure out. Can you tell me yourself?
Aygul
Quote: Sens

soon the brand will come out programmable.
I'm also waiting ...

So I wanted Beanaton 2169, I wanted to, I already agreed with my husband, and here about Brand is very interesting information. Let's wait ...
Catwoman
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

I'm trying to figure everything out - to figure out what and how to put it. You need to cancel the workout. Can lift 2 for 1 minute and immediately set rise 3. What kind of bread I can't figure out. Can you tell me yourself?

Ksyusha, what is the longest ascent # 3? Then rise # 2 for 1 minute, and # 3 is maximum. Check any recipe, at least French, at least the main one, if in the end you don't quite like the bread, feed the birds. They also want to eat.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
In short, now, while I was cooking dinner, I set all the smallest settings to idle, that is, height 2 - 1 min, height 3 - 20 minutes. By the end of this minute, I turned the shaft 6 times one revolution at a time and went into growth 3. Here.
Nevushka
There was a price for the Brand's bread maker: 4536 rubles, around the middle of December.
Aygul
Quote: lenivka

Aygul, why is she better?

While I was interested in the fact that we, of course, eat bread, but not in large quantities, so the weight of baked goods in Brand at 500, 750 and 1000g suits me. 1125 grams in Binaton is too much for our family. I would not use this weighing scale. This time. Brand has built-in scales - it's convenient for sure. These are two. The manual mode is not important yet, but suddenly ... And then it will matter that in Brand the minimum time is 0 seconds, that is, it will be possible to skip stages. Judging by the fact that Brand's multicooker is well made, the recipes are consistent, there is hope that the bread maker will be good too. Plus, there will be Brand testing. So I'll compare. At the same time, I do not detract from the merits of Binaton, it was he who was going to buy until the information about Brand appeared. I'll wait for Brand's appearance, test results. Or maybe I'll choose Binaton 2169 after all? (read - my husband will give him, because I have already buzzed all his ears about him, and gift horse a donated bread maker, as they say, ... which I will be glad too.) But Binaton has a 24-month warranty! Thanks for attention.
MihaN
Good day. Finally we bought a Binatone BM-2169W oven. Special attention when buying for the last letter - it denotes a color (in this case white). In many online stores, the letter is not written, because of this confusion with the color - we wanted black Well, this is not the main thing, if only without marriage ...
On examination, I drew attention to the chips under the HP cover (as if they were picking it with a screwdriver), noted in the inspection report
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
By the way, the cover is also raised ...
The overall impression of the assembly and quality is average: there are no rough constructive jambs, but you can't call it ideal either (well, what do we want from China and the existing market rules - manufacturers have no desire to launch an "ideal" product on the market). There are slight deformations on the cladding aluminum panel (where the buttons are).
There are even recipes (brochure) without comments, well, only the stirrers are painfully easy to remove, I thought they would be pulled off during mixing, but this did not happen ... everything is fine.
The forms are stable both in the stove and on the table when filling the ingredients, only now they seemed thin to me (they took pity on aluminum).
In general, I am satisfied with the purchase, I do not regret it, the functionality pleases (although I could not fully appreciate it yet - we only baked one bread, we still cannot eat it)

MihaN
Now for bread: they baked egg bread according to a recipe from a brochure, well, they noticed late that its weight was 750g, and in HP the setting was 900g, so even with an average crust, the sides and bottom turned out to be thick (all the same, the shape should be thicker IMHO).The bread also has a double top.
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
I would like to note the work of HP control: when you press the buttons, they react clearly, leaving no doubt that the button was pressed and worked. No double clicks. +5. The program and behavior are intuitive, it is easy to guess that to disconnect it is necessary to hold the STOP button longer.
By the way, there was a jamb when it was switched on for the second time: the oven began to intermittently interfere and blink the display (I don't remember exactly what was on it) before that it was not turned on for half an hour. The problem was solved when the HP was plugged into the outlet again with the STOP button pressed.
Many still do not like how we have a sticker with an advertisement for binaton (in waves) glued to our HP.
P.S. And the bread tasted wonderful !!!!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: MihaN

Good day. Finally we bought a Binatone BM-2169W oven.
Congratulations!
Quote: MihaN

On examination, I drew attention to the chips under the HP cover (as if they were picking it with a screwdriver),
For a long time I could not understand where it is! But then she realized, looked at her. Mine is not so much like yours, but there are a couple of burrs, you know how it happens when a lot of plastic parts are stamped, they are first connected to each other, and then they are disconnected and such irregularities remain. And I have it on both sides, exactly in the middle
Quote: MihaN

Many still do not like how we have a sticker with an advertisement for binaton (in waves) glued to our HP.
I pulled it off right away, why should I do it at all
Quote: MihaN

Now for bread: they baked egg bread according to a recipe from a brochure, well, they noticed late that its weight was 750g, and in HP the setting was 900g, so even with an average crust, the sides and bottom turned out to be thick (all the same, the shape should be thicker IMHO).
The next time, if you do not begin to recount the recipe for 900 grams, just turn off the baking 5-10 minutes earlier and then the crust will not be so thick. Otherwise, I wish you good luck, and once again congratulations on the purchase of a wonderful assistant.
MihaN
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

I pulled it off right away, why should I do it at all
Yeah, I already tried to tear it off, it comes off normally, no traces remain, they were just afraid that they would not pull away

Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

The next time, if you do not begin to recount the recipe for 900 grams, just turn off the baking 5-10 minutes earlier and then the crust will not be so thick. Otherwise, I wish you good luck, and once again congratulations on the purchase of a wonderful assistant.
Thanks for the advice, I will take into account, this was just the first time, I would have counted, we just did not notice ...

Put it 2 hours ago in double form:
Carrot bread and bread with nuts and seeds. The first is nothing like, but with seeds, in my opinion, it is rather thick, it didn’t get mixed up (that is, all the nuts remained on the surface of the kolobok). It is necessary to try the main program on the "home baker" to organize and knead 2 increase ... Here I sit and write down how much time happens. In other CPs, all programs are described in the instructions, it is very convenient, especially if there is a programming mode and something can be changed

By the way, how to realize baked goods according to the "Dessert" and "Keks" program in a home baker? If you look by analogy on BM-1068 and BM-2068, the times of the Keks program are different (1:50 and 2:50). Even if you just bake, at what temperature and how long?
MihaN
Here's what happened: as I said, it didn't get in the way, but it worked. It is necessary to master the manual mode.
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This is a general view on the left of carrot bread, on the right with seeds and nuts (and prunes)
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Bread with seeds and nuts, not mixed from below ... 2 minutes after baking
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Carrot is more airy and softer. By the way, I used cake from a juicer (waste-free production)
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: MihaN

The first one is nothing like, but with seeds, in my opinion, it is rather thick, it didn’t mix (that is, all the nuts remained on the surface of the kolobok).
In a double bucket, often the bread with additives needs help with kneading. Literally at the very beginning with a spatula (preferably a silicone one). Then everything is mixed well. And in a big bucket I also had to stir the charlotte from the recipes by hand. Otherwise, there are no problems with impurities.
The bread turned out beautiful. Start given
Silver
And tell me, has anyone tried to bake rye bread in a double bucket? I've tried it, but since I'm just a kamikaze, I also put on the timer for the night
In short, the result: one loaf is more or less, in the second the flour is not mixed at all. She lay on top in a lump. And below, under the flour, bread Attention, question: probably, in double it is better not to bake from rye flour? or oven, but watch out and help stir?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Silver, and you put 100% rye?
Silver
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ Yeah, 100% rye, I'm smart, I needed two loaves (one for home, one for work) and I thought: why cut one large loaf if you can make it separately? plus the recipe was for a small loaf, so everything went perfectly in my head
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Silver

yeah 100% rye,
Now I’m not an assistant, I don’t do one hundred percent. This is me, for reference, for the future, maybe it will come in handy
Silver
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @, you will laugh, but I did 100% rye for the first time. In a large bucket I made rye and wheat, everything was perfect. Tonight there will be work on mistakes - I will bake again. Now I'm thinking in which bucket to bake. Try again in double, but follow the process, or still switch to the big one.
Nevushka
I don’t bake pure rye, but my rye-wheat mixes well in a double bucket, I only have charlotte with nuts and apples, which is not very stirred, and flour remains on it in the corners.
Silver
Nevushka my husband put forward the assumption that my hands were crooked, because in one bucket there was flour, although there was just a little bit on the sides, and in the second there was a huge sheath of flour on top. Maybe I just put one stirrer badly on the pin? Probably, today I will try again to bake this recipe in a double bucket and report back then
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Silver

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @, you will laugh, but I did 100% rye for the first time. In a large bucket I made rye and wheat, everything was perfect.
Quote: Nevushka

I don't bake pure rye, but my rye-wheat mixes well in a double bucket,
So with me, everything is also fine from the air of the types of flour in different combinations.

Quote: Nevushka

I only have a charlotte with nuts and apples from not very stirring, which, on it, there is flour in the corners.
I also stirred the charlotte with a spatula
Gyurza
Hello bakers! Finally I found her. Believe it or not, this Binatosha is sold in only one store in the whole city. I haven't baked anything yet - I just admire and study the instructions. Take me into your ranks!
Gyurza
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

We accept! Congratulations! We are waiting for the report! Have you already baked?
I'm already baking, everything is great, but for some reason, on the middle crust it is completely light and very soft. We have to bother on dir. baking with a dark crust for another 15-20 minutes. It seems that there is not enough temperature or time. What could it be because of? (I close the window with foil)
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: mom 3

I'm already baking, everything is great, but for some reason, on the middle crust it is completely light, and very soft. We have to bother on dir. baking with a dark crust for another 15-20 minutes. It seems that there is not enough temperature or time. What could it be because of? (I close the window with foil)
How light is it? Would see!
I never switch to a dark crust, I bake only on a medium one. And I never closed the window. And I can't call the bread pale. Hope, homemade CP will not have such a dark brown top as store bread. This can only be achieved in the oven.
Nevushka
Yes, Nadezhda, you would have posted a photo of bread. Usually, if the bread is removed immediately after baking, the crust is crispy, and if left on the heating, it becomes soft.
Here are recent breads: French and rustic.
Medium crust, size for a double bucket.

Gyurza
Girls, I can't post a photo yet (the photo is under repair, but it's hard to see from the phone), but if the bread is not baked, there is no crispy crust. Darnitskiy baked from Fugaski - the bottom and sides on the middle crust are beautiful (prog.No. 1) there is no upper crust at all, it is the same color as the dough when kneading, but dried out. Save, maybe you need to change the HP?
Silver
I always bake on a medium crust and it suits me. Once I put it on dark and decided not to experiment any more - it was too hot. Before buying, I also read about the fact that a crust does not come out of the windows, but I was convinced that this is not at all the case in my binatoshka. And by this Temko, when I was looking for information before buying, I realized that there is no such problem as an uncooked crust.
If, as you say, the color does not change at all (compared to the test), I would try to change the cotton. If it still gets dark, but not as much as you would like, I'm not sure that this will be a sufficient reason for the exchange.
Although, in theory, cotton should normally bake without any window closing.
I wish you a successful solution to this problem.
addresat
Tell me, how is the quality of the coating of forms and their thickness? Thank you
Nevushka
Quote: addresat

Tell me, how is the quality of the coating of the forms and their thickness? Thank you
I won't say about the thickness, but after two years of active use, I have one scratch on the bucket, although it no longer even looks like a scratch, but the fact that the coating is slightly peeled off. I want to note right away that I do not shake over the bucket, I can in a hurry and spoon into it, and leave it soaked for a couple of days and forget
addresat
Quote: Nevushka

: girl_haha: I won't say about the thickness, but after two years of active use, I have one scratch on the bucket, though it no longer even looks like a scratch, but the fact that the coating is slightly peeled off. I want to note right away that I do not shake over the bucket, I can in a hurry and spoon into it, and leave it soaked for a couple of days and forget

Well, in general, how satisfied with HP? Do you always get bread? How does it react to voltage drops? Does the crust on top always turn out ruddy?
Thank you
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: addresat

Tell me, how is the quality of the coating of forms and their thickness? Thank you
I use mine, unlike Nevushka, for 5 months! The forms are good. I have one scratch on a large bucket, but she came to me with it. And on the double, I also planted a scratch. Well, like a scratch, a trace of bread remained when taken out, because I also do not shake over the buckets.

Quote: addresat

Well, in general, how satisfied with HP? Do you always get bread? How does it react to voltage drops? Does the crust on top always turn out ruddy?
Thank you
I am VERY happy! The bread turns out. I did not miss. Well, when the roof is blown off - is it not "turned out"? "Don't drink water from your face," you need to eat bread. We do not have voltage drops, protection is worth it. Once she turned on the grill on a swing with the stove turned on, RAM and it worked, everything turned off. She quickly turned on the machines and she continued to work. The crust in my copy is always rosy. There was never a light, whitish crust.
addresat
Tell me, are there two kneading blades in the big bucket too?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: addresat

Tell me, are there two kneading blades in the big bucket too?
Yes, there are TWO blades in the big bucket. There should be FOUR stirrers in the box. There were complaints that only three were found in their kits. Check it out!
alexeyda
Sorry if I repeat myself.

1. Home baker function
-Heats up on this program?

- Can the timer be set for the home baker function?

- it is possible to program the home baker function so
batch 1
growth 1
batch 2
height 2
height 3
oven 0
heat 30 min
In this case, will the dough come up faster or can it overoxidize?

3. Using one cell of double shape, it does not burn, is it normal?
Nevushka
Quote: addresat

Well, in general, how satisfied with HP? Do you always get bread? How does it react to voltage drops? Does the crust on top always turn out ruddy?
Thank you
In general, yes, I am satisfied. In general - because the programmed mode is not as flexible as we would like. I had no problems with the crust. It is difficult to say about tension, whether she reacts normally, or whether we have normal tension with her. But no protection at home is worth it.
alexeyda
Quote: Nevushka

In general, yes, I am satisfied. In general - because the programmed mode is not as flexible as we would like.
1) And what does it not suit you?
2) How is your renovation, how is it working now?
3) Does it seem clumsy? when compared with the Maruchi 47, is it loosing in design?
Nevushka
Quote: alexeyda

1) And what does it not suit you?
2) How is your renovation, how is it working now?
3) Does it seem clumsy? when compared with the Maruchi 47, is it loosing in design?
one). The fact that it is impossible to compose a normal program for rye, well, so that one batch and a long proofing.
2). Works like a clock. Alas, I had to put up with external damage, because I did not have the opportunity to get to the SC again.
3). Normal view Comparing maruchi is not very correct, all the same, different devices. Now it stands next to the cherry brand, I like the brand in terms of design more than marucha. But they are all different - and this is what I like about them, I don't like it when everything is monotonous, for example, some people buy everything to be white or silver, but I don't like monotony.

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