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Waist70
Quote: cvt

Turmeric is just a spice for color and scent. The yolks increase the richness. So it burned a little. Set Keep Warm = 0 or remove immediately after baking for less tan
Turmeric is generally a magical and very useful seasoning ... read it on the Internet
Waist70
Quote: khorevpavel

Today my wife and I bought this miracle stove. They immediately began to bake the first recipe for white bread. It turned out 100%. A 1 kg loaf almost evaporated in 20 minutes.

Since today is the last day of Easter, we decided to make a cake.

I write in the order in which everything was loaded into the oven.

Milk 250 ml (in my case, I poured 10% cream)
Oil drain. 70 gr (pre-melted)
Yolks - 4 pcs
Sugar - 90 g (but you can also have a little more who likes sweeter)
Salt - 0.5 tsp.
Flour - 500 gr (measured by weights and not glasses)
Trembling - 2.5 tsp
Vanilla - a pinch

Raisins were added after the signal
Decorate who knows and loves.

The result is a cake weighing 986 grams, very tasty.

We will continue to experiment. Write who else did what in this stove model.
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
What a beautiful stove you have ...: girl_love: and the cake is just a sight for sore eyes !!!
Waist70
Quote: tararuk

Hello! I'm new. Take to your company.
Santa Claus brought Binatone 2169 under the tree. I can't say that I was eager to have it, but .... I collected recipes on your website and try to bake homemade bread.
The bread turns out to be very tasty but sooooo burnt.
Already I reduce the time and the color of the crust is the lightest, and you still have to cut it on the sides and bottom.
Is there something wrong with the stove or with me?
According to the latest data from scientists, a burnt crust is good for the body ..
Steel pie
Greetings, gentlemen bakers.
I choose a stove for myself, I noticed fewer negative reviews from Binatone.
Tell me which is better: BM-2068 or BM-2169?

what are the common problems they have?
Waist70
Quote: Steel Pie

Greetings, gentlemen bakers.
I choose a stove for myself, I noticed fewer negative reviews from Binatone.
Tell me which is better: BM-2068 or BM-2169?

what are the common problems they have?
Who took this Panasonic stove no longer want! Binatone BM-2169
lenivka
Of course, I don't want any Panasonic!
I have two forms, I use both, the programming mode is not as flexible as I would like - but better than nothing (as in Panas), the crust is lovely to see, but it must be without a crust - please! kneads a miracle (once I kneaded the dough in a small form of 1 tablespoon of flour on the noodles - I kneaded it only on the way, imagine kneading such a crumb!)
I'm glad. at first I had some nagging - but all the little things. I advise you to buy!
Steel pie
please tell me pechkin dimensions
it is not written anywhere in the internet
Nevushka
And my binatosha went to the service. After 1.5 years of operation, she had .... the start / stop button failed. I just finished the bread and I decided to turn off the heating, pressed the button - the effect was zero. I pressed it again, and she took it and fell inside. In the service, the stove was accepted, but they said that most likely it was not a warranty case, since there was a mechanical failure, but the final answer would be given in a week.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Admin, Tatyana, I have one question for you about HP Binaton 2169. Did you weigh the flour, did I understand correctly, or did you measure it with measuring cups, as recommended in the recipes attached to it? I desperately want this HP, but my baking experience is not as great as yours, but still I got used to weighing flour on the scales. And in your opinion, is it better for this HP for scales or glasses? Thank you in advance.
Quote: Steel Pie

please tell me pechkin dimensions
it is not written anywhere in the internet
Yes, for me this question is also relevant, please answer, happy owners.
sazalexter
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ sorry for the immodest question, why do you need this HP? If you already have Moulinex 600230?
Admin
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Admin, Tatyana, I have one question for you about HP Binaton 2169. Did you weigh the flour, did I understand correctly, or did you measure it with measuring cups, as recommended in the recipes attached to it? I desperately want this HP, but my baking experience is not as great as yours, but still I got used to weighing flour on the scales. And in your opinion, is it better for this HP for scales or glasses? Thank you in advance.

Weigh flour or measure with glasses - there is no difference! In any case, the weight should be one, with slight deviations, which are adjusted by the structure of the correct kolobok, by kneading the dough.

To correctly measure flour and other ingredients, you need to use our tables / information in the Bread section. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf

Take as a basis the recipes and advice of the forum, everything has already been worked out here!

The quality of the bread does not depend on the instructions for the bread makers, they are also not accurate.

Check out this topic for beginners, there are many links https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136950.0

The bread maker is good, I liked it! And there is no difference for this x / stove how to measure flour, it is important that the flour / liquid balance is maintained

Good luck!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Admin

Weigh flour or measure with glasses - there is no difference! In any case, the weight should be one, with slight deviations,
Well, don't tell me. The measuring cup from my HP contains more than 210 grams of flour, because from the top measure another centimeter and a half and if you measure it "by a knife" - it will be too rich in flour. Well, okay, I understand the main idea, thanks for the answer.

Quote: sazalexter

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @ sorry for the immodest question, why do you need this HP? If you already have Moulinex 600230?
But I want a bucket for two loaves, and even so small that I often bake different breads I saw binatosha in the store today, but I will order on the Internet, cheaper and will bring home
Admin
Quote: Ksyushk @ -Plushk @

Well, don't tell me. The measuring cup from my HP contains more than 210 grams of flour, because from the top measure another centimeter and a half and if you measure it "by a knife" - it will be too rich in flour.

I will say ...

The correct ratio of flour and water is important.
A regular cup from a x / stove, including Binaton, holds 250 ml. water, which means about 150 grams of flour will enter it.

If your cup has a volume of 300 ml, then more flour will enter, then the ratio of flour and water in the cup needs to be recalculated.

The number of ingredients in the recipe is stable, and the meaning of the cups is different, it is enough to know the ratio of your cup, flour, liquid.

And how exactly to measure flour and water anyway, even with a tin can, if only the dough turns out to be correct, flour / liquid balance, bun
We have already discussed all this in the section Bread - everything is in the head, come in - let's talk
Nevushka
My husband brought my wet nurse home, they made a button, but this is how they opened it .. in general, instead of a perfectly even connection before repair, now - like this
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
and you also said: do not press it (start button) eh, let's hope that nothing else has been messed up and it will work without problems.
Waist70
Quote: Nevushka

My husband brought my wet nurse home, they made a button, but this is how they opened it .. in general, instead of a perfectly even connection before repair, now - like this
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
and you also said: do not press it (start button) eh, let's hope that nothing else has been messed up and it will work without problems.
YEAH! Not an intrusive Russian service ...: (we seem to have everything being repaired with a hammer and a sledgehammer, even fine equipment !!! I sympathize with YOU ... I would have seen this arranged: cray: hysterical !!!
Nevushka
In general, I wrote to Binaton and attached a photo of the stove after the repair, they answered from Binaton very quickly, said that this was unacceptable, that they contacted the SC and we needed to take the stove to them again.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Nevushka

My husband brought my wet nurse home, they made a button, but here's how they opened it ..in general, instead of a perfectly smooth connection before repair, now - like this
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
and you also said: do not press it (start button) eh, let's hope that nothing else has been messed up and it will work without problems.
Oh, how annoying. I don’t like the technique after repair, because by hook or by crook I try not to repair, but to change. While it worked
Quote: Nevushka

In general, I wrote to Binaton and attached a photo of the stove after the repair, they answered from Binaton very quickly, said that this was unacceptable, that they contacted the SC and we needed to take the stove to them again.
And how, have you already taken it? What did the service say? I really want this Benatosha, therefore I am very worried about you. Yesterday I was ready to order, I go to the online store, look, and she was already taken away, I was upset
Honda
Hello dear forum users! She became the owner of this miracle 4 days ago, chose for a long time, then waited 2 weeks ... At first, there was no limit to happiness, but then there were continuous failures.
The first time I was to blame myself - the correct kolobok did not work out (I naively thought that you were falling asleep all the time and there was no need to look in again). Although tell me, how do you track this kolobok if you put on a delayed start?
Then I already acted as written on the forum:
baking flour (though the highest grade) - measured in gr. on the scales
But here's the bad luck - the loaf remains absolutely white on a "dark crust" and when using the usual program, it is not baked
first time experimented on regular bread
the second time on fast mode (baked in the oven for 1 hour)
the third - French (this time I took more sugar and added milk powder) (after the end of the program I baked in the baking mode for another hour, but the loaf was still with a white crust on the sides and on top, after that I put it in the oven at 200 degrees on 15 minutes and the bun is golden brown)
Hands are already falling. Is there something wrong with my bread maker? and should you carry it to the service?
I think the oven may not reach the set temperature. Tell me everyone has a crust fried?
Help, tell me what I'm doing wrong, I will be very grateful for your help
Nevushka
Honda, if I bake recipes with instructions, then I don't look into the stove at all. Everything is baked, the crust is normal. You first try the recipe from the instructions.
Honda
Quote: Nevushka

Honda, if I bake recipes with instructions, then I don't look into the stove at all. Everything is baked, the crust is normal. You first try the recipe from the instructions.
the first time I baked according to the instructions to the stove (in cups) simple white and egg - it turned out completely raw inside and white on all sides - threw it out
the second time, too, according to the instructions - ordinary white - the result is the same, only I baked it in the oven
the third time according to the video instructions (pesto and charlotte) - the garbage is complete - raw porridge
the fourth time - I took the recipe from the Internet in grams

Therefore, doubts creep in about the serviceability of the bread maker, when I open it, then somehow “the atmosphere does not pull at 200 degrees,” that is, even if you touch the mold, there will definitely not be a burn ...
lisenok82
Honda, I myself, too, when I bought the 2169 stove, had exactly the same problems, I handed it over to the service, they said there was a manufacturing defect and they exchanged it for a new one in the store. Now everything is fine, the baking is excellent and I bought the same x \ n for my mother. Maybe you and I came across stoves from the same batch - defective ones. Take it to the service, let it change
lisenok82
Where did you get the bread maker?
Honda
Quote: lisenok82

Where did you get the bread maker?
under the order in an Internet store. As a result, I passed it there, now they are testing ...
lisenok82
I realized that in the Internet store, and in which one? maybe they gave you my x \ n ..
Honda
Quote: lisenok82

I realized that in the Internet store, and in which one? maybe they gave you my x \ n ..

internet shop 🔗 , no, not yours, waited a week well and unpacked it in front of us - definitely not bu
lisenok82
didn't know about this, thanks? I took the second 2169 mom in the shop-
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
They brought it to me
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Today I have already tried a double bucket. I baked our most popular bread, one loaf for myself, the second for my friend, I feed my godson with homemade bread. The bread is cooling down, we will try it in the evening. In appearance, the result is not bad, although both loaves rose almost to the very lid.I thought they would fall off later - nothing like that, only the one that is closer to the control panel has a slightly crumpled dome when removing it, but it looks decent.
Vanya28
I read the topic up to half to help the "Teapot", and barely, barely found a picture with a hard-to-read text describing programs, where you still had to guess that this is exactly what you need. A beginner simply cannot find, and the search mode does not work with this.
In short, I rewrote everything into text.
It is useful to give such information in the first post,
can someone work hard and add information there.


Here are the possibilities for adjusting (adjusting modes to the recipe) in Binatone on a programmable mode, this is the 11th program - "Home made":

Binatone BM-2068,
Binatone BM-2168

Program Time
Knead1 / Mix1 6-14 minutes
Rise1 / Ascent1 20-60 minutes
Knead2 / Mix2 5-20 minutes
Rise2 5-120 minutes
Rise3 0-120 minutes
Bake / Baking 0-80 minutes
Warm / Preheat 0-60 minutes

Binatone BM-2169
Program Time
Knead1 / Kneading1 3-14 minutes
Rise1 / Ascent1 20-60 minutes
Knead2 / Mix2 8-24 minutes
Rise2 1-60 minutes
Rise3 / Ascent3 20-120 minutes
Bake / Baking 0-80 minutes
Warm / Preheat 0-120 minutes

After reading this plate, take any recipe, for any HP, look, and it (the recipe) is always baked on a specific, specified program, which consists of kneading, rising and baking time, and decide whether this stove has enough time for this recipe or not ... This one has enough!
That's all! All recipes, yours!
Not all CPs, and even those that are more expensive, can do this, especially if you bake sourdough bread. What do the owners of such stoves do, and the paddles are taken out, and the stoves are turned off, and the programs are combined, and they watch the end of the program in order to switch it or add time. Well, just acrobats! And all this is due to the limitations of fixed programs that bake bread well, but only typical solutions (recipes).
And in this stove, if something is wrong, I corrected program 11 and here it is - Happiness!

Come and learn to bake rye custard bread.
I will lay out the baking instructions for you in Binatone BM-2068, Binatone BM-2168, Binatone BM-2169.
Here is the entry to the topic: Rye custard bread
Waist70
A new model Binatone BM-2169 B has appeared ... How does it differ from Binatone BM-2169 who knows please explain.
Honda
Quote: Waist70

A new model Binatone BM-2169 B has appeared ... How does it differ from Binatone BM-2169 who knows please explain.

this is not a new model - this is a complete marking, there is BM-2169 B - black and BM-2169 W, respectively, white
Waist70
Quote: Honda

this is not a new model - this is a complete marking, there is BM-2169 B - black and BM-2169 W, respectively, white
YES, something is wrong ... On the site they sell VM-2169 .. VM2169W-white, and separately VM 2169 V
marat_s
Greetings,
I choose a stove. I think it's better to take a programmable one and settled on this one.
But I heard that she squeaks very annoyingly, so do not leave her at night, otherwise she will wake up).
Is there really such a problem? How do you solve it?
lenivka
There is no problem, since there is no need to put it at night - I like to watch the cooking process.
Kisa and Osya
Quote: marat_s

Greetings,
I choose a stove. I think it's better to take a programmable one and settled on this one.
But I heard that she squeaks very annoyingly, so do not leave her at night, otherwise she will wake up).
Is there really such a problem? How do you solve it?
Price - quality, excellent stove. The squeak is a conditional thing, all the stoves squeak when they finish the program.
Piskun can be turned off by adding a switch.
And your objection to the night, apparently not thought out.
Putting off cooking until the morning, you will just be awakened by the smell of fresh and hot bread with a squeak, that it is time to get up and prepare coffee for bread.
Nevushka
The fact is that the stove beeps when you need to add additives. You can hardly hear it from another room.
Lana
Good day! I am the owner of mulinex baguettes. Everything would be fine, but the bucket is flowing again, so I'm going to change it to binaton 2169. I'm very interested in the issue of removing the bread .. do the stirrers remain in the bread or the bucket? In Mulinex, picking out the stirrers causes nerve scratching. I would be very grateful for the answer to the owners of the binaton.
lenivka
there are no problems at all with stirrers. If they remain in the bread, then they come out with a special crochet, if I just soak in a bucket with water.
Lana
lenivka, thanks for the answer. but my hp also has a hook and with the wear of the Teflon coating, the agitators are taken out with increasing problems.the vaunted Panasonic (my sister has) does not have such a problem, the mixer is always in the bucket. Therefore, I will clarify the question: where do you often have stirrers in a bucket or bread?
marat_s
Tell me, if you put a mold for two loaves (2x450), can you put the dough in only one half? or do you have to cook in two?
Kisa and Osya
Quote: marat_s

Tell me, if you put a mold for two loaves (2x450), can you put the dough in only one half? or do you have to cook in two?
Sure you may.

Quote: Lana

lenivka, thanks for the answer. but my hp also has a hook and with the wear of the Teflon coating, the agitators are taken out with increasing problems. the vaunted Panasonic (my sister has) does not have such a problem, the mixer is always in the bucket. Therefore, I will clarify the question: where do you often have stirrers in a bucket or bread?
Who cares whether the stirrer remains in the bread or not.
Pull it out with a crochet hook, if there is no hook, take a metal crochet hook.
More conversations about where she stayed and what she is doing there.
Lana
yes, it makes a big difference if a piece of crumb is torn out together with a mixer and a mouse's mink is in the bun
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: Lana

yes, it makes a big difference if a piece of crumb is torn out together with the mixer and a mouse's mink is in the bun
If you take out the stirrers immediately, from the still hot bread, then yes - the hole will be decent. And if you let the bread cool for 15-20 minutes, then the hole is very small (from the base of the mixer) and does not affect the appearance, taste and quality of the bread. I just turned off the binatosha, because I'll take out the stirrer, take a picture and show it later.
Nevushka
Whether the stirrers remain in the bread or not often depends on the type of bread, at least for me. The bowl is left in the bread, or one or both.
Lana
Thanks to the inhabitants of the topic for the info. The double bucket and programmability outweighed the stirrer problem. Binaton will be delivered tomorrow, Moulinex will be retired, and I hope that I will be satisfied with the stove.
Lana
Good day to the inhabitants of the topic! Became the owner of Binaton 2169 after Moulinex baguettes. I decided to describe my impressions, maybe someone will be useful. Collected soundly, nowhere backlash, the smell is really noncomilfo, but I think it will disappear in a week. The bucket is about the same weight as Moulinex, the stirrers are thinner ... maybe because of this they pop out of the bread easier. the idiot's dream came true - small buns - a lot of crusts ... the children are delighted. the recipes are verified, but sweet for our taste .. non-bread, sugar can be safely halved. after the mule, it is practically silent, a little louder than Panasonic ... but 10 sound signals is too much (for who is interested in 10 then?). the display shows at what stage it is - pleased. the letter Y in the word "timer" looks like an N-smiled. airy bread with a beautiful dome. recipes in cups .. after 4 years of work with weights in grams strains ... boom to count and add grammes next to the cups. .. When baking bread, there is no salivating smell of bread all over the area, apparently due to small ventilation holes hot air does not come out, but as a result, the well-browned top of the loaf ............... how then so
lenivka
the smell of bread will appear when the smell (not camilfo) disappears - I promise, I had it. Now such aromas are worth ... mmm, you will download! And take the recipes, for God's sake, from the site. Because it is TASTER than in the recipe book, and the scales are much more convenient to use than cups. And in this book everything is in cups.
I am glad for you! I made an egg noodle dough in a small form for 1 egg (for 1 meal) - so it got mixed up !!! I made such a delicious soup!
Lana
It is clear that there are recipes in grams, but the book also seemed attractive. And I liked the idea of ​​noodles for one soup, thanks for the tip. I think in any other option, kneading a hundred grams of flour will not work. Probably there will be lyuboff with the binaton.
marat_s
Greetings.

They also brought the device. Tried to bake Plain White, Egg and Cupcake.
It seems that everything worked out. I agree that there is a lot of sugar in standard recipes.

I noticed that when setting "Medium crust" - the crust turns out to be excessively thick (about 5mm) and dark. I can imagine what happens if the crust is made "The largest".Is this the case for everyone, or is it a problem with my stove? I will try to make the "Minimum crust" next time.

In the produced breads - White and Egg, the crumb turned out to be like in a loaf - white, soft, with small holes.
Once at a party I tried bread from the oven (I don't know the oven model), so it was soft, spongy. Close to the storefront. What kind of recipe it can be, can someone tell you from his own experience?
Admin
Do not hesitate to go to the bread sections Yeast bread https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf, there are many recipes for x / ovens, you can see a photo of the crumb.

So you will find out what ingredients can be used for different types of bread and crumb

You can even bake bread without sugar if it doesn't suit you!
But, you should know that the use of milk and sugar in bread gives the crust color!

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