Bread maker Binatone BM-2169

Read a few pages above - we had the same problem. We decided to decrease the amount of liquid.

Yes, you do not need to go "a few pages back" - you need to read the Basics of Baking to understand the meaning of what you are recommended to do, and not just add / subtract.

Girls, your intuition will definitely let you down because you are afraid to come off your topic further

Go to the Bread section - everything is in the head - well, there all your "intuition" is gathered. Why sometimes reinvent the wheel and fill up the bumps, such material has been collected for you ...

Amount of main ingredients in one measuring cup and spoon https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8236.0

The fact of the matter is that I have repeatedly studied all the topics related to kneading dough, measuring units, koloboks! Already a mess in my head from all the information read, a bunch of counter questions after reading! Here! Of course, I understand that you are already tired of answering monotonous and "stupid" questions for an hour, well, excuse me, I did not want to strain you! As for this topic, it seemed to me that I found just as many answers to my questions here!

I know from myself - first porridge! But then with experience, you begin to understand the meaning, you observe everything more, and you have a desire to read everything anew, but with a completely different meaning.

If you have questions - ask them directly in the topic, where it is not clear - we will understand

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Of course, I understand that you are already tired of answering monotonous and "stupid" questions for an hour, well, excuse me, I did not want to strain you!

I will survive this too, come in and talk

Good evening everyone! ) Once again I studied some of the theoretical information on the forum and got down to business. And in my opinion the bread turned out. I baked 750 g and 450 g white bread and honestly love the small loaves, they are so delicious! In principle, I did everything according to the recipe from the instructions for cotton, only I increased the amount of flour a little (by the way, the electric scales are really a good thing!)! It seems that I managed to master the technique of 'kolobok', it is not difficult, but it requires flair, patience and skill! Oh, girls, I was so fired up with the idea of ​​learning how to bake delicious bread that I baked bread in my sleep! In a word, I like this cotton, I do not regret purchasing it.

Good day!!!
hurray ... hurray ... hurray ..... I bought it !!!!!! now I have another assistant ...
Thank you girls for answering my questions ..

I baked egg bread yesterday ... everything worked out ... deliciously homemade in delight ... now I will get a charlotte .... I wanted to bake some other string of bread .. But for the second day I have been running around the city like a saiga in search of leaven wort .... it's good that there is a Krasnoyarsk page ... there all the answers and found my questions .... turnout and flogged

oh and what kind of charlotte should it turn out ?? slightly wet or all baked?

[Divna]

Divna, congratulations on your purchase!

oh and what kind of charlotte should it turn out ?? slightly wet or all baked?

As far as I remember (I haven't baked it for a long time), it is baked, not wet. Although it seems to me it will depend on apples.

Who are the bakers who are in touch ???
SOS .... muddied the French bread ..... and the bun is not all some kind of peas .. the feeling that water is not enough ... now it is growing .. I don’t know what will happen .... Help who baked this bread .. what happened after the first batch?

Who are the bakers who are in touch ???
SOS .... muddied the French bread ..... but the bun is not all some kind of peas .. the feeling that there is not enough water ... now it is growing .. I don’t know what will happen .... Help who baked this bread .. what happened after the first batch?

The recipe in the studio!

The recipe in the studio!

recipe from the fan book that came with ...

French bread

Ingredients 750 g
1 cup water
Oil 1 1 / 2h. l.
Sugar 2 tbsp. l.
Salt 1, 1 / 8h l.
Wheat flour 3 cups
Yeast 1, 1 / 8h. l.

Ingredients 900g.
1, 1/3 cup water
Oil 2 tsp.
Sugar 2, 2/3 tbsp. l.
Salt 1, 1 / 2h. l.
Wheat flour 4 cups
Yeast 1, 1 / 2h. l.

Program "French bread" ("French").
Tip: after the beep, you can add 1-2 tbsp. l. finely chopped olives, chopped nuts, cheese, or dried herbs.
kneaded for 750 gr .... oh! and immediately the question ... and in Binetoshe 2196 you can bake 750 or is it a recipe for another model ??? I turned on the French bread mode right now and the default program is an average crust of a roll of 900 gr ..

in general, I ran around the forum and found an approximate bread .. there the author says that "nobody canceled the fairy tale about the kolobok !!!!" I read it on time for the second batch I added almost 6 tablespoons of water .. the bun turned out to be handsome .. the dough was well touched .. now baking is in progress ... I think here, in this recipe, more water is needed right away ...

recipe from the fan book that came with ...

French bread

Ingredients 750 g
1 cup water
Oil 1 1 / 2h. l.
Sugar 2 tbsp. l.
Salt 1, 1 / 8h l.
Wheat flour 3 cups
Yeast 1, 1 / 8h. l.

For 450 grams of flour - 240 ml of water = still not enough.

kneaded for 750 gr .... oh! and immediately the question ... and in Binetoshe 2196 you can bake 750 or is it a recipe for another model ???

The recipe is for another, but who said that it is impossible. I bake my own Mulinex at 750 grams without recalculation. But at the same time, I turn off HP 5-10 minutes earlier, if I have time of course

For 450 grams of flour - 240 ml of water = still not enough.
The recipe is for another, but who said that it is impossible. I bake my own Mulinex at 750 grams without recalculation. But at the same time, I turn off HP 5-10 minutes earlier, if I have time of course

and I think not enough water .. it will be necessary at the weekend to go to the topic about bread and read about the ingredients. there in my opinion it was about the ratio of flour and water ... to adopt experience ...
I have 34 minutes to wait ... I spy from time to time ... thanks for the advice .. I will probably do the same ... I will turn it off in 10 minutes ...
do you take out the bread right away or let it stand for some time?

do you take out the bread right away or let it stand for some time?

I don’t leave bread at all on heating, this makes the crust thicker than necessary.
But in the case of disabling HP earlier, I can leave it in HP for the same 5-10 minutes, sort of like getting there. But the main thing is that in this case the bread does not become damp. I hope not confused

and at the expense of charlotte, I baked it for 900 grams yesterday .. it turned out so heavy at the exit ... when after the signal I opened it and checked it with a stick for readiness ... it was damp ..... maybe it seemed to me that way ... and I I turned on the baking, I kept it on this program for 20 minutes ... I checked it again, it became much better ... I took it out .. the loaf was cold .. in the morning they cut the crust of course it was thick ... but mine liked that it crunches .. I went to work and put it in the bread bin in the evening came ... the loaf is all soft, smooth, tender ... there are a couple of pieces left ... but honestly, I didn't really like it .... I will bake if my family asks ...

and at the expense of charlotte, I baked it for 900 grams yesterday .. it turned out so heavy at the exit ... when after the signal I opened it and checked it with a stick for readiness ... it was damp ..... maybe it seemed to me that way ... and I I turned on the baking, I kept it on this program for 20 minutes ... I checked it again, it became much better ... I took it out .. the loaf was cold .. in the morning they cut the crust of course it was thick ... but mine liked that it crunches .. I went to work and put it in the bread bin in the evening came ... the loaf is all soft, smooth, tender ... there are a couple of pieces left ... but honestly, I didn't really like it .... I will bake if my family asks ...

I baked it from my late garden apples, they don't give much juice. Therefore, everything was baked at once normally. She looked ... like this

For myself, we decided that apples can be also or more, nuts - less and there will be normul.

I baked it from my late garden apples, they don't give much juice. Therefore, everything was baked at once normally. On
For myself, we decided that apples can be also or more, nuts - less and there will be normul.

So ... why don't we see this recipe and beautiful bread in Yeast Bread!

We urgently arrange and place!

Good evening girls! I see you here bake pastries (charlotte) in a bitoshka, I also really love baking, but for some reason my daughter stopped loving baked goods with fillings, so I decided to bake in a bitoshka something in between bread and pie, it tasted like a huge bun , please do not judge strictly, since I am a novice baker, her daughter cracked with jam with a bang!
I baked 2 x 450 gr., On "sweet bread", the buns rose almost to the very lid of the bitoshka! If desired, of course, you can add nuts, raisins or other filler to the buns, it seems to me that it will be even tastier with it!


Yes, I also wanted to ask, please tell me what are chocolate chips and can they be replaced with chocolate chips?

Good evening .
Yesterday I became the owner of the Binaton BM 2196W bread machine. I've always had Alaska, I was just delighted with it, but it broke - a bucket flowed and the shaft broke. I studied baking in Alaska, and when it came time to choose something else, I wanted something special. Therefore, we chose Binaton with 2 buckets and a "home baker", although I still don't know whether I need it or not. I really liked the first 2 rolls, but it is unusual for me that the roll is long and kneaded with 2 knives.
While I'm happy with her.
Here is a photo of today's bread:

I haven't cut it yet - it's hot.

Yes, I also wanted to ask, please tell me what are chocolate chips and can they be replaced with chocolate chips?

I think the chocolate chips are like chocolate drips. Although I could be wrong.

[Ksyushk @ -Plushk @Akya]

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Akya
Thank you very much .
Tomorrow I want to experiment with double buckets, but for now I am studying this topic.
For me, it became a little problematic to translate from cups into grams, not familiar.

At one time I was advised here to measure in grams, it turned out to be more convenient than cups! And in small buckets I like to bake even more, the breads are very appetizing!

Yes, I also wanted to ask, please tell me what are chocolate chips and can they be replaced with chocolate chips?

Now actively rummaged in the net. You can safely buy chocolate drops or chop it yourself with a knife from a bar of chocolate, but not from milk, but bitter. It is more refractory or something.

And I still have a question: the kit comes with a plastic spatula, light gray, round on one side, it is written in the manual just "plastic spatula" I wonder what it is for?
I couldn't think of it.

And I still have a question: the kit comes with a plastic spatula, light gray, round on one side, it is written in the manual just "plastic spatula" I wonder what it is for?
I couldn't think of it.

For some breads, it is advisable to use a spatula to knead the dough. But I still advised using not this standard plastic spatula, but a silicone one. It is softer and will not damage the coating of the bucket 100%.

[Ksyushk @ -Plushk @]

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Thanks for the answer, at first I thought that it was for these purposes, but I tried to put it in an empty form and after that I had doubts about its use, it is too thick and clumsy. And I use a small wooden thin spatula for mixing.

No, unfortunately there are no such programs for 2169. And you cannot program it, since the proofing time equal to 0 is not provided.
I just turn on the kneading ("Dough", for example) and when everything is mixed - "Baking".
However, lately I have been stirring the cupcakes with a mixer - it turns out more airy. And if you are too lazy to drive the oven, I bake in a two-bucket form. 2 cute cupcakes come out. One even lives to cool down uncut ...

How long does it take to bake a 450 g cottage cheese dessert?

Who made the fan recipe pizza dough? Is it supposed to be so liquid?

I did something like that. Then I mixed the flour with my hands. Something was wrong with him, I did not begin to figure out what. I did not repeat the experiment anymore, I do it according to a proven recipe.

Is the proven recipe classified or can you share it?

For 300 g of flour: 180 g of water, 3 tbsp. l.olive oil, 0.5 tsp. salt and yeast. The test is enough for two laps.

Thank you))) I will definitely try

Try this again https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=123680.0

Good day .
I want to make a sample cake in a small form, but it seems that it might turn out a little heavy.
Tell me where to look or maybe so tell me, the recipe for a cake for a small form, proven. To not be heavy.

Good day .
I want to make a sample cake in a small form, but it seems that it might turn out a little heavy.
Tell me where to look or maybe so tell me, the recipe for a cake for a small form, proven. To not be heavy.

I myself want to try to bake Easter cake and the same in small forms! Therefore, also in search! If you're not sorry, let's share your ideas !?

Girls, last year I baked cake in a binatosha according to Pokhlepkin (adaptation for a bread machine), I have already tried this one ... Delicious! All relatives were stunned by the aroma and taste! Highly recommend! Moreover, the whole process is described in great detail. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=10153.0

By the way, it is very convenient to take flour with a regular spatula. Well, just very convenient!
But I help and, so to speak, check with a silicone spatula.

Girls, last year I baked cake in a binatosha according to Pokhlepkin (adaptation for a bread machine), I have already tried this one ... Delicious! All relatives were stunned by the aroma and taste! Highly recommend! Moreover, the whole process is described in great detail. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=10153.0

Thanks for the information! We will try!

Hello!
This is my first time on this forum and I have a question right away.
Today I was presented with a Binaton 2169, I have not yet taken it out of the box - but I noticed that the lid is very flimsy attached to the body, goes to and fro and does not close with any latch. This is normal? It just seems to me that in any technique the parts should not walk with a shaker ...
I still doubt it, because a month ago they gave me a Binaton multicooker-bread maker and we had to return it because of a marriage, the bread was not baked. It turned out that this is a marriage of the whole party and Binaton recalls the whole party back.
So I don't know what to do - to return the bread maker right away or try it?
What do you advise?

The lid in Binatone 2169 has a slight backlash - this is normal. And there are no latches for the lids in the bread makers.

Unpack and bake bread for health and joy for yourself and your loved ones

Good day! Yesterday we baked cake in two small forms according to this recipe, yum-yum!
🔗
And during the first batch, it is better to help with a spatula.

The lid in Binatone 2169 has a slight backlash - this is normal. And there are no latches for the lids in the bread makers.

Unpack and bake bread for health and joy for yourself and your loved ones

Thank you! Everything turned out to be fine. My husband came home and, in response to my complaint, took out a cardboard part of the package from under the lid. The lid has risen normally)))
Everything bakes just fine!

Christ is Risen, Binatonovody!
Well, now about the mundane ... More than once or twice I got into trouble, even clearly following the recipe. There may be many reasons for this, but in my case there is only one - I did not know what and how long my HP was doing at each stage of each program. How long is it short, but I overcame my laziness and lost all the programs on my 2169th binatosha. Not extremely important, but my notes on this may be helpful.

I can add the following to this table ...
My binatosha was bought a year ago. It has a not very high-quality external plastic (burrs on the edges), a glitch for the "BAKING", "HOME BAKER" program at the "baking" stage, the inscriptions above the display are confused (time dependence on weight), on the "timer" button the letter "y" has a bourgeois writing ... But at the same time, she serves me regularly and reliably for all the points declared by the manufacturer. And for that I appreciate her and even love her.
What can be said about the case ...many programs are similar, so, I think, we need to throw the ratsuha to the manufacturer - remove unnecessary programs and expand the programming capabilities (very scarce).
Every 1 batch begins with a three-minute period, in which the mixer rotates "every other time".
At the 2nd batch, exactly in the middle of the program stage, a sound signal sounds.
At the last minute of the 2nd growth, several rotations are made "every other time", as if collecting the dough into a bun.
I played all programs at 900g.
The GRAIN program discouraged me. The total time and the sum of times for each of the stages do not match. Lost twice, does not match.
Do you have an opinion on this? I will chat with pleasure

[buselnurka]

buselnurka , what are you clever !!!! : bravo: We did such a gigantic job. There was also an idea to make such a plate (the manufacturer refused such data, our members of the forum have already contacted), but there is still not enough time. Thank you very much. Now I will print it, and I will be guided even more in the programs of my HP.

[Basic program]

Ladies and Gentlemen! I found (on the multicooker website) a full description of the Panasonic HP programs SD-255 / SD-254. Thanks to Andyvit. This description makes it even easier to customize recipes.

Basic program

Mode - baking: equalization of temperature - 25-60 min., Kneading - 15-30 min., Rise - 1 h. 50 min. - 2 h. 15 min., Baking - 50 min. Total - 4 hours
Mode - fast baking: temperature equalization - no, kneading - 15-20 minutes, rise - about 1 hour, baking - 35-40 minutes. Total - 1 hour. 55 minutes - 2 hours
Mode - baking with raisins - see baking mode.
Mode - dough: equalization of temperature - 25-50 min., Kneading - 15-30 min., Rise - 1 h. 10 min. - 1 h. 25 min., Baked goods - no. Total - 2 hours 20 minutes.
Setting - raisin dough - see dough setting

Diet program

Mode - baking: equalization of temperature - 1 h-1 h 40 min., Kneading - 15-25 min., Rise - 2 h. 10 min. - 2 h. 50 min., Baking - 50 min. Total - 5 hours
Mode - quick baking: leveling the temperature - 15-25 minutes, kneading - 15-25 minutes, raising - 1 hour 30 minutes - 1 hour 40 minutes, baking - 45 minutes. Total - 3h.
Mode - baking with raisins - see baking mode.
Mode - dough: equalization of temperature - 55 minutes - 1 hour 25 minutes, kneading - 15-25 minutes, rise - 1 hour 30 minutes. - 2 hours, pastries - no. Total - 3 hours 15 minutes.
Setting - raisin dough - see dough setting

Rye program

Mode - baking: equalization of temperature - 45 min-1 h, kneading - about 10 min., Rise - 1 h 20 min. - 1 h. 35 min., Baking - 1 h. Total - 3 h. 30 min.
Mode - dough: equalization of temperature - 45 min-1 h, kneading - about 10 min., Rise - no, baking - no. In total - 2 hours (as it is written in the instructions - apparently an error, arithmetic does not hit)

French program

Mode - baking: equalization of temperature - 40 minutes - 2 hours 5 minutes, kneading - 10-20 minutes, rise - 2 hours 45 minutes. - 4 h. 10 min., Baking - 55 min. Total - 6 hours
Mode - dough: equalization of temperature - 40 minutes - 2 hours 5 minutes, kneading - 10-20 minutes, rise - 1 hour 35 minutes. - 2 hours 40 minutes, pastries - no. Total - 3 h. 35 min.

Gluten Free Program

Mode - baking: temperature equalization - no, kneading - 15 minutes, rise - 1 hour, baking - 45 minutes. Total - 2 hours

Jam program

Mode - baking: equalization of temperature - 15 min., Kneading - 75 min., Rise - no, baking - no. Total - 1 hour 30 minutes.

Pelmeni program

Mode - dough: equalization of temperature - no, kneading - 20 minutes, rise - no, baking - no. Total - 20 minutes

Pizza program

Mode - dough: kneading - 10-15 minutes, rise - 10-15 minutes, kneading - about 10 minutes, rise - about 10 minutes. Total - 45 minutes

Baking program

Mode - baking: baking - 30 min. - 1 h. 30 min. Total - 30 minutes - 1 hour 30 minutes

During proofing (lifting), the dough is periodically deboned. How often and when in timekeeping - I did not notice, although the information is not bad. Maybe someone is already in the Internet and posted it. Find - make an addition to the topic.

Peace, kindness and love to everyone!
first I wrote, then I saw the same information in the Panasonic section
Moderator, please remove my message, it's worthless here.
I apologize

Hello, I also want to buy such a stove, tell me, what is the quality of the plastic, does it smell too much?

It smelled like the first baked goods, and even then not plastic. But the plastic itself at my edges is not fully processed, or something ... I wanted something smoother. But this does not affect the quality of baked goods.

Doesn't smell like plastic. You just need to wipe a new one inside with a damp cloth, then turn on the empty bread maker without a bucket to mode 8 "Baking" for 10 minutes.After 10 minutes, turn off the program with the "START / STOP" button and wipe the inside with a damp cloth again. If desired, after cooling, you can turn on the empty oven again without a bucket for 10 minutes for "Baking".

And this model is very convenient, because you can bake 2 loaves at the same time according to different recipes. For example, white wheat bread and wheat-rye or plain white and white bread with additives: oatmeal, olives, etc.

Girls, does she consume a lot of electricity?

Girls, does she consume a lot of electricity?

If you oven every day in a CHB, then about 27 kW per month is obtained!

I didn't count it exactly, but when the stove and the pressure cooker are working every day, about 500 kW during a month!

Well, it’s you enough ... these devices don’t take so much, look for the reason in another, other e-consumption. energy. This problem has already been discussed at the forum.

She became the owner of this miracle stove on April 13, 2012. I quickly figured out the instructions and started to bake. Bread made me happy from the first baking. But the smell of plastic when baking was very annoying. Moreover, all the household members felt only the smell of the bread being baked, and I felt this additional chemical smell. To be honest, this made it difficult for me to rejoice at the success in the process of mastering the stove. Therefore, I inform all beginners to operate the stove: in about a week, the smell of plastic will cease to bother even the most sniffers. Enjoy your shopping. And she bakes wonderful bread. I had never baked bread before. And somehow it didn't work out with the dough. And I can't believe that this bread is mine:

[buselnurka]

buselnurka, thank you very much for your plate, it helped me a lot to understand the modes of the stove.
Darnitsky for her husband - a recipe from the forum (I don't remember the author) - very tasty bread! Thanks to the author

Well, at the same time my Frenchie on malt (my bread, a recipe from a neighboring forum)

And now I am reading and studying information about rye bread. Thanks to the forum. Here are my first attempts

Nice and beautiful attempts turned out

Why don't you process the recipes and post them on the forum with author's topics in the Yeast bread section, it will work out well, there is something to be proud of