addresat
And who used the Sandwich mode? How is the bread made?
Nevushka
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And who used the Sandwich mode? How is the bread made?
I often use it, it turns out a delicious soft bread, it looks like a loaf.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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And who used the Sandwich mode? How is the bread made?
I've never used it.
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I often use it, it turns out a delicious soft bread, it looks like a loaf.
Cho, Ver, do you advise? We should probably drive the sandwich bread on it. Vera, and the proofing in it is a little shorter, right?
Nevushka
Ksyusha, I will not tell you in time, did not pay attention, and I really like the bread for sandwiches!
addresat
Just now I read the instructions
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
In the first paragraph note Default settings 1 program duration 3.20h arrow on display on 900gr
The duration of the program does not match the weight !!!!! Cool !!!
addresat
Is there no sound signal for setting raisins on Baking or Sweet mode? Probably raisins should be put in right away?! .. And for some reason only one batch. And strangely enough, the program is shorter than that of regular bread. In theory, sweet dough takes more time ..
addresat
Nevushka And how did the story with the service center end, did they carry the HP or not?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Just now I read the instructions

In the first paragraph note Default settings 1 program duration 3.20h arrow on display on 900gr
The duration of the program does not match the weight !!!!! Cool !!!
We discussed what is in some samples. It will be necessary not to focus on weight, but on the total time: the longest for a large loaf, the smallest for 2 * 450, respectively.

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Is there no sound signal for setting raisins on Baking or Sweet mode? Probably raisins should be put in right away?! .. And for some reason only one batch. And strangely enough, the program is shorter than that of regular bread. In theory, sweet dough takes more time ..
I won't say that. Nevushka will have to wait, maybe she knows.

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Nevushka And how did the story with the service center end, did they carry the HP or not?
Can I answer, I'm just in the know. Nevushka was not lucky. I did not waste my nerves and time on disassembly. The unit works and thanks for that.
P.S. Ver, litter, that climbed
Nevushka
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Is there no sound signal for setting raisins on Baking or Sweet mode? Probably raisins should be put in right away?! .. And for some reason only one batch. And strangely enough, the program is shorter than that of regular bread. In theory, sweet dough takes more time ..

I have a signal, I put raisins on it. The time is 3:10, and there is definitely more than one batch. She kneads first, and after adding raisins, kneads. I bake raisins according to a recipe with instructions.
I have it 6 Sweet mode.

Ksyusha has already written about the repair, it is very inconvenient for me to get there, and given the presence of three young children, it is simply unrealistic.
addresat
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I have a signal, I put raisins on it. The time is 3:10, and there is definitely more than one batch. She kneads first, and after adding raisins, kneads. I bake raisins according to a recipe with instructions.
I have it 6 Sweet mode.
It was my mother who messed things up with fright. I was afraid that there would be no more kneading - I dropped the program, started it from the beginning and threw the raisins. As a result, the dough came up so well that it crawled out of the double molds, splattered it and rested against the lid.
It is bad, of course, that all modes have to be worked out in the slip. I'm used to the fact that in my programs all cycles are prescribed by time.
irina-s
Hello everyone! I don't know, but I am very happy with this stove. I really like that the programs are all fine-tuned and bake differently, even when I was laying bread according to the same recipe. Beep for raisins on all programs, even on home bakers. And this program is generally delighted.Any bun according to your recipe, please. They made dough for buns, but for us a little more milk was given. And so super. Any experiments can withstand. Good luck to all.
addresat
Something my mother is complaining about her HP - it's been a week that bread has been baked in it (almost every day), but there is no aromatic smell of bread during baking !!!!! It smells not clear what, but not bread !!! For me this is somehow strange. Although I myself noticed the first time I baked bread in it - I thought, the first time, then the smell would appear. In my Panasonic, the fragrances are for the whole apartment. Can anyone say something about this ?? !!
addresat
My parents have a whole problem with HP. The top of the bread is constantly falling off. Fits well and falls off when baked. We have already tried different flours and changed the yeast. And the ratio of water and liquid is normal and the bun is not liquid. Well, at least cry All sin that the form is long and two paddles for kneading. Here is the recipe according to which 700 grams of flour was last baked (weighed on a scale), 380 ml of water, 2 tsp. dry yeast, 2h. l. salt, 2 tbsp. l. grows oils. and 2st. l. Sahara. Everything works out for me in Panasonic. And the parents have one headache ... What could be the problem, I don't know
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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My parents have a whole problem with HP. The top of the bread is constantly falling off. Fits well and falls off when baked. We have already tried different flours and changed the yeast. And the ratio of water and liquid is normal and the bun is not liquid. Well, at least cry All sin that the form is long and two paddles for kneading. Here is the recipe according to which 700 grams of flour was last baked (weighed on a scale), 380 ml of water, 2 tsp. dry yeast, 2h. l. salt, 2 tbsp. l. grows oils. and 2st. l. Sahara. Everything works out for me in Panasonic. And the parents have one headache ... What could be the problem, I can't put my mind to it
It was that there was no roof either, if not bread. With a trace of water on a spoon, reduced, to literally the very gram of a tight bun, and then the roof stopped falling through.
addresat
Hurray, mine finally got a bread with a normal, not falling top. The ratio of water turned out to be 370 ml - for 700 g of flour. And then I already began to worry. I had to move the HP to another room. And then this is a private house with a constantly changing room temperature. Maybe that was the reason. Well, however, Binatoshka is capricious ...
irina-s
If the crown falls off, then the matter is in yeast, but in your cases you give a lot of water. Bake on the recipe that is given in the instructions.
addresat
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If the crown falls off, then the matter is in yeast, but in your cases you give a lot of water. Bake on the recipe that is given in the instructions.

In the instructions, the entire glass is measured, and this is not very convenient. Once you pick up flour 140g, another time 160g, and the instructions for HP generally say the amount of flour in a measuring glass 125-130g. In grams, it is somehow better to measure.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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In the instructions, the entire glass is measured, and this is not very convenient. Once you pick up flour 140g, another time 160g, and the instructions for HP generally say the amount of flour in a measuring glass 125-130g. In grams, it is somehow better to measure.
From the instructions baked: egg, white, 100% whole grain, French, Borodino. The flour was weighed at the rate of 1 glass according to the recipe = 150 g of wheat flour, 130 g of rye flour. All turned out to be bread. Therefore, right in the book I wrote down the weight of the flour in the tablets.
addresat
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From the instructions baked: egg, white, 100% whole grain, French, Borodino. The flour was weighed at the rate of 1 glass according to the recipe = 150 g of wheat flour, 130 g of rye flour. All turned out to be bread. Therefore, right in the book I wrote down the weight of the flour in the tablets.

Thank you. And mine today baked bread in the same proportions, only the flour was changed and again the top sagged a little and did not work out perfect. I tell them to keep an eye on the kolobok, so that it is a little bit tight, but they put everything in a bucket and are "afraid" to approach the HP.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Thank you. And mine today baked bread in the same proportions, only the flour was changed and again the top sagged a little and did not work out perfect. I tell them to keep an eye on the kolobok, so that it is a little bit tight, but they put everything in a bucket and are "afraid" to approach the HP.
Lena, somehow, when you visit your parents, show everything yourself again, that is, make your own bookmark of products. At the same time, do not add water or flour and show how to fix it. Or convince me to spit on this roof, not drink water from my face ... The more clumsy my bread turns out, the faster it is eaten, beautiful people regret eating - they admire
Lelik83
Good day! Can you please tell me why in this bread maker it is not possible to pick up a beautiful bread, they have already tried everything, a beautiful one fits, and after 5 minutes the top begins to fall? The whole family is upset and not happy with the stove. Please help who faced such a situation.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Good day! Can you please tell me why in this bread maker it is not possible to pick up a beautiful bread, they have already tried everything, a beautiful one fits, and after 5 minutes the top begins to fall? The whole family is upset and not happy with the stove. Please help who faced such a situation.
Hello! Without a detailed recipe and a photo of bread, it is difficult to say what is the matter in your case. As you can see, the above was the same problem and it was solved by the banal relocation of HP to another room. So give us more information.
Lelik83
Well, so this is what we brought to another room, something more or less happened once and that's it ....... and again nothing happens. And it doesn't smell like bread, I don't even know what to compare this smell with
R.S Adressat my sister
Lelik83
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
This is how bread turns out.
Lelik83
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Bread maker Binatone BM-2169
Help please, what is the problem with bread
recipe
700 grams of flour
350 ml. water
1.5 tsp salt
2 tbsp. l of oil
2 tbsp. l. Sahara
1.5 tsp. dry yeast
and the water was reduced and flour was added and that just did not try the result one
Komak
We have the same problem and we get the same bread. So I look forward to advice, just like you!
Lelik83
Maybe it's not about recipes, but a defective oven for 2 weeks every day we experiment, the results are zero
Admin
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Maybe it's not about the recipes, but a defective oven for 2 weeks every day we experiment, the results are zero

Your ovens are normal!

It's just that bread is not immediately amenable to everyone, someone else needs time and experience to gain ...

There is such a concept "feel the dough" - that's when you have it, and the bread will turn out beautiful and tasty

There will be a lot more to read about mixing, and about the interaction of ingredients with each other ... this infa did not just appear on the forum ... we all go through this, we stuff the bumps ourselves, analyze and put them out for you to read - learn with us

Patience and again, patience - learn to make bread dough, and there will still be a lot of marriage, spoiled bread, including for the birds ... we all went through the birds, and now we feed them ...

Good luck to all!
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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R.S Adressat my sister
It is clear now.
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Well, so this is what we brought to another room, something more or less happened once and that's it ....... and again nothing happens. And it doesn't smell like bread, I don't even know what to compare this smell with
I cannot understand, what does your bread smell like?
addresat
Quote: Admin

Your ovens are normal!

It's just that bread is not immediately amenable to everyone, someone else needs time and experience to gain ...

There is such a concept "feel the dough" - that's when you have it, and the bread will turn out beautiful and tasty

There will be a lot more to read about mixing, and about the interaction of ingredients with each other ... this infa did not just appear on the forum ... we all go through this, we stuff the bumps ourselves, analyze and put them out for you to read - learn with us

Patience and again, patience - learn to make bread dough, and there will still be a lot of marriage, spoiled bread, including for the birds ... we all went through the birds, and now we feed them ...

Good luck to all!

Well, I didn't think there were such problems. In my panasik and sometimes I forget to sift the flour and heat the whey from the refrigerator for quick bread. And I pour the liquid almost "by eye" - I tasted the bun by the touch and everything is always pah, pah, pah ... it turns out.
Vanya28
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...
Help please, what is the problem with bread
recipe
700 grams of flour
350 ml. water
1.5 tsp salt
2 tbsp. l of oil
2 tbsp. l. Sahara
1.5 tsp. dry yeast
and the water was reduced and flour was added and that just did not try the result one

Suddenly, something is wrong with the ratio of ingredients in your recipe.
The recipe is typical, read similar ones on the forum and check the ratios.
Lelik83
It's good if something is wrong. Please give me a recipe for someone who has a Binatone BM-2169 oven and a regular bread is obtained. Because we have already tried the same result differently. Everything fits perfectly, a very beautiful shape, and only the discharge turns on after 5 minutes, the top begins to fall.
Vanya28
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It's good if something is wrong. Please give me a recipe for someone who has a Binatone BM-2169 oven and a regular bread is obtained. Because we have already tried the same result differently. Everything fits perfectly, a very beautiful shape, and only the discharge turns on after 5 minutes, the top begins to fall.

Then reduce by half the amount of yeast, miracles do not happen.
Admin
Quote: Lyolik83


Help please, what is the problem with bread
recipe
700 grams of flour
350 ml. water
1.5 tsp salt
2 tbsp. l of oil
2 tbsp. l. Sahara
1.5 tsp. dry yeast
and the water was reduced and flour was added and that just did not try the result one

Answered again here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7690.0
addresat
Here I took the recipe from the instructions for HP Binaton 2169
Plain white bread
Ingredients 900 g
Water (40 ° C) 1 cup
Salt 1 1/8 tsp
Sugar 2 ¼ tbsp. l.
Butter 2 ¼ tbsp. l.
Wheat flour 3 cups
Yeast 1 ½ tsp

The manufacturer writes in the instructions that 1 cup of flour = 125-130 g, 1 cup of water = 230-240 ml.
Based on this, we get
Water 240ml,
Oil 35ml
Total liquid 275ml
Flour 390gr
How do you think about the proportions?
The only thing confusing is the amount of yeast, isn't it a lot?
And again, I would reduce the amount of vegetable oil to 1.5 tbsp. lies. And sugar and salt too ...
Lelik83
Flour 390 grams is it possible to get a loaf of 900 grams, if I baked a loaf of flour today, it was 450 grams, the bun turned out to be small
Vanya28
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Flour 390 grams is it possible to get a loaf of 900 grams, if I baked a loaf of flour today, it was 450 grams, the bun turned out to be small

about 700 grams and it turns out, everything is correct.
Nevushka
All the recipes from the instructions come out well for me, problems only happen when changing products.
For the last year I baked on Ashanovskaya flour, but then it ended and there was no opportunity to go, I bought a room. The bread turned out, of course you can eat, but the roof collapsed. I would try to change products, first of all flour and yeast.
tumana
Hello girls. Give advice. By March 8, my mother wants to buy HP for herself, but she doesn't know which one, but she wants the bread to be small. Since I want to buy myself Binatosha for the holiday, I also advised my mother, there are 2 buckets for small breads. So about the question, can you, for example, use not 2 buckets, but only one (do not put dough in the second)?
Lelik83
700 is a little bread
addresat
Quote: Nevushka

All the recipes from the instructions come out well for me, problems only occur when changing products.
For the last year I baked on Ashanovskaya flour, but then it ended and there was no opportunity to go, I bought a room. The bread turned out, of course you can eat, but the roof collapsed. I would try to change products, first of all flour and yeast.

Yeast and flour tested by Lelik83, I myself bake on such products, only in another HP. And always everything
addresat
Quote: Lyolik83

Flour 390 grams is it possible to get a loaf of 900 grams, if I baked a loaf of flour today, it was 450 grams, the bun turned out to be small

The fact is that in the instructions itself, such an alignment of products is indicated for 900g of bread, and in a fan with recipes for 750g. Although I think that more than 750g will not work. Only the mode should be set at 900 g, since there is no less.
addresat
Quote: Lyolik83

700 is a little bread

Try to bake a small one.
addresat
Quote: tumana

Hello girls. Give advice. By March 8, my mother wants to buy HP for herself, but she doesn't know which one, but she wants the bread to be small.Since I want to buy myself Binatosha for the holiday, I also advised my mother, there are 2 buckets for small breads. So about the question, can you, for example, use not 2 buckets, but only one (do not put dough in the second)?

I think you can. Nothing awkward should happen. And Binaton has a model HP for 450g maximum bread weight.
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
Quote: addresat

Here I took the recipe from the instructions for HP Binaton 2169
Plain white bread
Ingredients 900 g
Water (40 ° C) 1 cup
Salt 1 1/8 tsp
Sugar 2 ¼ tbsp. l.
Butter 2 ¼ tbsp. l.
Wheat flour 3 cups
Yeast 1 ½ tsp

The manufacturer writes in the instructions that 1 cup of flour = 125-130 g, 1 cup of water = 230-240 ml.
Based on this, we get
Water 240ml,
Oil 35ml
Total liquid 275ml
Flour 390gr
How do you think about the proportions?
The only thing confusing is the amount of yeast, isn't it a lot?
And again, I would reduce the amount of vegetable oil to 1.5 tbsp. lies. And sugar and salt too ...

I already wrote that you need to count 1 cup = 150 grams of wheat or 130 grams of rye flour. In such proportions, I get excellent bread. And salt, sugar, oil is a matter of taste.
addresat
Well then, the flour is 450g per 275ml of liquid - is not enough liquid?
Admin
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Well then, the flour is 450g per 275ml of liquid - is not enough liquid?

Proven for a long time: Amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0 , and then adjust the flour / liquid balance with a few tablespoons of flour / water
addresat
Quote: Admin

Proven for a long time: Amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0 , and then adjust the flour / liquid balance with a few tablespoons of flour / water

Tatyana, you write Wheat flour 2 cups (sifted flour about 140-150 grams per cup)
In one cup, 150g of already sifted flour? or not sifted? I always weigh the required amount of flour, and then sift it.
Or have I misunderstood?
Ksyushk @ -Plushk @
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Well then, the flour is 450g per 275ml of liquid - is not enough liquid?
As recently as yesterday I baked bread according to the recipe:
water - 270 ml
MO - 1.5 tbsp. l.
Salt - 1.5 tsp.
Sugar - 1, 5 tbsp. l.
Flour - 450 gr
Yeast - 1.5 tsp.
I call it - for sandwiches.
Everything is fine. The roof is not a dome, of course, but a normal roof, without breaks and hills. The weight is certainly not 900 grams, but there are 680-700 grams.
And yet, from flour weighing 450 grams in such a large form as in Binaton, there will be no domed roof. Here in a vertical bucket - yes, but for a horizontal one you need at least 600 grams of flour. Well, I think so, maybe someone thinks differently.
Lelik83
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