Bread maker Binatone BM-2169

I read this review .. it is dubious ... but the stove has a warranty of 2 years, so the review is "f furnace". binaton seemed to me better than moulinex, but this is my IMHO. double bucket, home baker, price and fried top won.
It is possible to implement, but almost 4 years of using the moulinex baguette (two repairs under warranty and the bucket flowed again) showed that 4 baguettes (the size of a hot dog roll) for 3 hours is pampering, besides, in my opinion, these baguettes are not so tasty .. better oven .. again my IMHO.
ps I gave the baguette form along with the mule, and I didn't even want to shove it into the binaton as this maneuver was unnecessary

And how, forgive me, I did not really understand, does this marriage manifest itself?

And how, forgive me, I didn't quite understand, does this marriage manifest itself?

Well, like the drive mechanism quickly breaks down and then the knives do not rotate ... but there is no trust in the author of that post.

Hmm, let's see ... While I like my binatosha, even with a bug in the baking program

Hello!! Please tell me the recipe for double baked bread. Binatone BM-2169 bread maker. Something I can't do anything. Thanks in advance!!!

in each bucket: 160 ml of water (milk, whey, etc.), 275 grams of flour, 0.7 tbsp. l. sugar, 1 tsp. salt, 0.7 tsp. yeast, 20 grams of butter (any) basic or French mode, variations are possible. in the second bucket I sometimes bookmark bread with additives according to my mood .. for example https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=143054.0, converted to 160 ml of liquid in the second bucket and to the French mode

Hello!! Please tell me the recipe for double baked bread. Binatone BM-2169 bread machine. Something I can't do anything. Thanks in advance!!!

You first practice on recipes with instructions. There are given for 450g of bread. They turn out great.

in each bucket: 160 ml of water (milk, whey, etc.), 275 g of flour

I take 200 ml. liquid 300 flour (150 wheat and 150 rye) 1 tea salt, 1 table sugar or honey, 1 salt plant. oil and 1 teaspoon of dry yeast (or 5 g wet). Then the dough mode is 1.5 hours. In 10-15 minutes after the end of the mode, the dough rises to the edges of the buckets, then I turn on the baking. The ratio of wheat to rye can be changed, for example 180 psh. u120 rzh. or 120 psh. and 180 rzh. There is no significant difference, excellent breads of 500-520 grams are obtained.

everyone does it differently. only our small buckets are positioned at 450 gr. and in the binaton recipe book the proportions are even less. if 520 gr is baked, then it is only for the best. and dancing with tambourines, kneading-baking does not attract me, I like it, I fell asleep and forgot

Thanks, I'll try. I don't get the recipes from the book, maybe the flour is not suitable.
Maybe someone did on big bread1125 tell me the proportions.

I also became the owner of the BN 2169 bread machine. We baked plain white bread. It tasted very much, only for some reason the leading edge of the top fell, it was very upset. : cray: Now I sit and turn over the forum. Tell me where to get malt for Borodino bread. Many thanks to everyone for the suggestions and advice. I am glad that you will not be alone with the problem.

[Rye custard bread in a bread maker. Fast and Easy!]

I also became the owner of the BN 2169 bread machine. We baked plain white bread. It tasted very much, only for some reason the leading edge of the top fell, it was very upset. : cray: Now I sit and turn over the forum. Tell me where to get malt for Borodino bread. Many thanks to everyone for the suggestions and advice. I am glad that you will not be alone with the problem.

In Kiev, no problem or by mail. Go to the forum section - Communication with fellow countrymen.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&board=39.0
You can get it by mail from the Peki Sam store - it's here on the forum.

How to program Binatone BM-2169 for baking rye bread can be found here:
Rye custard bread in a bread maker. Fast and Easy!

Dear bakers, help. Baked bread - the crown is completely absent, it just failed, what is it ...... We already think that we have come across a marriage and air passes under the lid, so there is no crown. What to do to carry back. ??

Dear bakers, help. Baked bread - the crown is completely absent, it just failed, what is it ...... We already think that we have come across a marriage and air passes under the lid, so there is no crown. What to do to carry back. ??

Here we read what to do https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7690.0

And here too https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=33.0

It has nothing to do with the leakage of the oven. Check out the recipes. If everything is observed to the gram, read the "kolobok rule" on the website and adapt to the specific flour

Thank you very much, it turned out to be the yeast, they turned out to be very active for me and I had to reduce the rate a little. And now everything is in order, for the 4th day we have not bought bread. ... Suggest a cake recipe for this model or others. Thank you in advance.

Please tell me Recipe for a cupcake in a Binatone BM-2169 bread machine for a small bucket ...

Hello. Unfortunately, this bread maker is not available in the nearest online store (which has a service) ... You have to wait and study the instructions ...
Has anyone bought a stove in online stores, so that with delivery through a transport company, there will be no problems if there is any marriage?

Randomly sent two in a row
And here's the question: in some programs, you need to add additional ingredients (nuts, raisins), that's what the instructions say:
"After adding, stir the dough to distribute evenly. Use a plastic spatula to avoid damaging the cover of the tray." This is what you need to do manually?

Has anyone bought a stove in online stores, so that with delivery through a transport company, there will be no problems if there is any marriage?

I took it through the online store, although they themselves deliver, their own delivery service. And what about marriage? This is how much the verified IM depends. So do not rush where it is cheaper. And perhaps payment at the time of receipt would be better than prepayment. I settled with the courier and in the transfer sheet indicated with my hand some comments (in case of a guarantee) and asked the courier to sign, since there were foam abrasions on the case, noticeable and a scratch on the large bucket. I wrote all this, he signed, I paid. I contacted the quality service, they agreed everything "if only, if only", but the TTT pack is fine.

"After adding, stir the dough to distribute evenly. Use a plastic spatula to avoid damaging the cover of the tray." This is what you need to do manually?

It is assumed that yes, manually. True, I never helped, she interferes and mixes everything herself.

Unfortunately, this bread machine is not available in the nearest online store (which has a service) ...

That's why I'm waiting to be brought by courier from a local online store. With him, you can check ...
Many stores deliver only in their region and, when ordering from afar, are sent by a transport company (from the list of existing ones) with a note: after you have accepted the goods, the store does not accept any claims to the appearance and work ... and so on.
But will the TK courier wait while you open the goods and check?

But will the TK courier wait while you open the goods and check?

not just will, he must wait. When you sign the papers, read everything carefully and check all the points (appearance, completeness, working condition, well, I don’t know what other points there will be). Under what you put your signature, you must complete all this and no matter how much the courier is in a hurry to the other addresses. I had a 3-month-old baby in my arms, when I was taking the HP, the courier didn't even make a sound, he helped me to pull it out and check it. When she said about the scuffs, he even asked: wrap up, will you refuse?. So everything is in your hands. Good luck!

That's why I'm waiting to be brought by courier from a local online store.With him, you can check ...
Many stores deliver only in their region and, when ordering from afar, are sent by a transport company (from the list of existing ones) with a note: after you have accepted the goods, the store does not accept any claims to the appearance and work ... and so on.
But will the TK courier wait while you open the goods and check?

Delivery is exclusively the responsibility of the TC courier. And accepting money for delivery.
And in order to protect yourself - the only way is to make a video recording during unpacking, which will show if there are any problems. And the courier (or someone else) in this case can only be taken as a witness.
I do this when I carry the TC, and when I receive parcels from abroad.

not just will, he must wait. When you sign the papers, read everything carefully and check all the points (appearance, completeness, working condition, well, I don’t know what other points there will be). Under what you put your signature, you must complete all this and no matter how much the courier is in a hurry to the other addresses. I had a 3-month-old baby in my arms, when I was taking the HP, the courier didn't even make a sound, he helped me to pull it out and check it. When she said about the scuffs, he even asked: wrap up, will you refuse?. So everything is in your hands. Good luck!

These are the duties of the store courier, not the shopping mall.

The competence of the TC courier is exclusively delivery. And accepting money for delivery.

Can he deliver a box of dust?

These are the duties of the store courier, not the shopping mall.

Your business is to receive the goods at least without damage. And the TC is responsible for this. They also insure the delivered goods. And how you will talk to couriers and how to check, it is up to you to decide. I don’t let anyone go without an external examination, that is, I don’t give the money back until I check the integrity. You can talk about this for a long time, but the result is one - we need to get a quality item for use, without damage, in working order, complete with all personal belongings, instructions and a guarantee.

I bought in an online store with delivery by New mail. There is a possibility of checking, I gave the money as a pledge without issuing a receipt, checked the integrity of the HP and completeness, and only after that we continued to issue a receipt for the transfer of money.

Can he deliver a box of dust? Your business is to receive the goods at least without damage. And the TC is responsible for this. They also insure the delivered goods. And how you will talk to couriers and how to check, it is up to you to decide. I don’t let anyone go without an external examination, that is, I don’t give the money back until I check the integrity. You can talk about this for a long time, but the result is one - we need to get a quality item for use, without damage, in working order, complete with all personal belongings, instructions and a guarantee.

Have you ever taken a shopping mall and read their contract? Without rigid packaging, for which no one pays - for everyday life. the transport company will not be responsible for the technique. Sorry, but I ate the dog at the shopping center.

Have you ever taken a shopping mall and read their contract? Without rigid packaging, for which no one pays - for everyday life. the transport company will not be responsible for the technique. Sorry, but I ate the dog at the shopping center.

I took and read. Nevushka, I'm not going to argue with you about the work of the TC. The man asked about the marriage, I answered how I was doing and what I generally think about it. And packing in rigid packaging, pardon the pun, is the responsibility of the seller, and not as a non-buyer. And the responsibility is borne by both parties, both the seller and the TC. This argument is meaningless. I perfectly drive TK automotive glass in various, both auto and railway transportation. And this is more fragile than everyday life. technique, agree? Everything is whole. Any marriage is taken away without any problems. So you don't have to be so negative about people. Everyone has the right to their opinion and to express it freely. That's why the forum exists.Sorry if I said something wrong.

Hello hostesses! Under the influence of your "thread" of the forum, I bought myself Binaton-2169: I coveted two different bowls, and your photos of breads were approved in the choice. Take me to the company and take patronage: this is my first stove. Today they brought it to me, I haven't baked it yet, but ... questions have already appeared: everyone has a little backlash in the lid and should it have some kind of lock? My "looseness" is not significant, but the lid is not fixed in any way. Will the steam raise it, violating the temperature regime? Thank you!

the lid is always and for all without a lock.
the backlash does not matter.

[Sens]

Sens Thank you very much for responding quickly. Tomorrow I will begin to master. Dumb. Well, the Lord is not without mercy, and the Cossack is not without happiness. I will definitely tell you about the first experience. I chose between Panas 2500 and Binaton. I chose this one, I don't want to regret it. By the way, Binaton is considered an English firm and old - since 1958 he has been making various equipment. This is to the question that "the company is unknown".

[koshkaTish]

koshkaTish, congratulations on your purchase! I really like Binatosha. There is insignificant backlash. However, Sens has already written everything.
And she bakes bread perfectly. Here's a look in a small bucket of baking:
Egg bread from the instructions for Binatone 2168

Mustard bread from Yana with MV tochka ru

Sandwich bread, also from Yana

Charlotte (from a large bucket) with apples and walnuts, cinnamon and grated nutmeg, very interesting in taste, and in appearance too: wink:

I easily adapt recipes from my second HP Mulinex for a double bucket, it's a pity there are no pictures on this computer.

Ladies, the instructions say that when you insert the bucket, you need to turn it a little clockwise, and when you take it out, it goes against it. WHERE??? Where to turn it, there is no place for that. And it does not turn, it turns out only to insert, slightly pushing or pull out, applying a little effort. Afraid to break the weight.

We started to bake egg bread - wheat. I read here that it is necessary to grease the form with oil, grease it - it partially sticks to the sides in some places. Kolobok did not work, some kind of comma. I'm afraid the yeast is bad: it doesn't go up well. Let's see what the way out will be. * JOKINGLY * I'll write and post a photo.

Ladies! The stove saved everything. I smeared this "squiggle" with a spatula in shape. It looked like something, that's why the crust on top is somewhat deformed. However, the stove adjusted everything, the bread was understood and baked.
I took out one stirrer easily, missed the second: it went inside. “Well, we have nothing to look at.” (C) I got a little cold, I easily cut it open and took it out. The cut off pink salmon daughter and son-in-law were swept away in a moment. Tasty: egg tastes like bagels from the times of the USSR, only the dough is not steep. My "Pioneers" jogged in "Seventh" for greenery. We want to put on more, but already two small ones.
I still have questions, but for now I'll try it myself.
But in what mode the backlight should be on - I did not understand: there is nothing in the instructions. And the recipes in the instructions differ from the recipe book.
Oh, another question. And if, after the second kneading, this "Squiggle" is taken out of the bucket, given a decent look of bread, the stirrers are removed and left on the layering, and then for baking. So it is possible?
Thank you for your participation and I hope that you will not quit without participation.
Photos will be later. Filmed.

Ladies, the instructions say that when you insert the bucket, you need to turn it slightly clockwise, and when you take it out, then against it. WHERE??? Where to turn it, there is no place for this. And it does not turn, it turns out only to insert, pushing slightly or pull out, applying a little effort. Afraid to break the weight.

Everything is correct, it is not possible to turn, but only to press on one edge of the bucket and then on the other.

We started to bake egg bread - wheat. I read here that it is necessary to grease the form with oil, grease it - it partially sticks to the sides in some places. Kolobok failed, some kind of comma. I'm afraid the yeast is bad: it doesn't rise well. Let's see what the way out will be.

It is not necessary to smear the entire form, only the pins of the stirrers, so that they fall better later.And the comma turned out, the liquid is most likely more than necessary, since the form was flavored with butter. Although in an egg I also have a bun not very much like a bun, but at the same time it turns out normal bread, unless I forget to loosen the egg in milk, and forget, so I have to help stir it with a spatula.

I smeared this "squiggle" with a spatula in shape. It looked like something, therefore the crust on top is somewhat deformed. However, the stove adjusted everything, the bread was understood, baked.

It's okay to fix the roof.

But in what mode the backlight should be on - I did not understand: there is nothing in the instructions. And the recipes in the instructions differ from the recipe book.

The backlight is on for only a minute, or something, then it goes out. And the recipes in the book are just given for all Binaton ovens. Choose any, but only you may have to count. When you get your hand filled, it will just be.

Oh, another question. And if, after the second kneading, this "Squiggle" is taken out of the bucket, given a decent look of bread, the stirrers are removed and left on the layering, and then for baking. So it is possible?
Thank you for your participation and I hope you don’t leave without participation.
Photos will be later. Filmed.

You can pull out the stirrers, that's just why. I'm naughty, I bake on the machine. At the very beginning, I checked the state of the kolobok, it began to form and that's it, I don't look in again. And we are waiting for the photo

[koshkaTish]

koshkaTish Read the topics carefully https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=7271.0
Anyway, just go over the topic of the section: "BREAD IS A HEAD FOR ALL", there are a lot of answers to the questions that arise. Admin very simply describes everything. I personally like to just read her articles.

Hello. Unfortunately, this bread maker is not available in the nearest online store (which has a service) ... You have to wait and study the instructions ...
Has anyone bought a stove in online stores, so that with delivery through a transport company, there will be no problems if there is any marriage?

I buy all the equipment through online stores, and not only local ones, and Moscow and Krasnodar, etc. Delivery, if a large transport company, once there was a marriage, called the store from where I ordered, sent back, they sent a new one without further ado ...

I know how hard it is to collect information bit by bit on all forums before buying equipment, so I will unsubscribe. Finally my Binatosha arrived. 2 weeks of waiting and here she is finally in my kitchen. We chose it for a very long time. Until ripples in the eyes)))) As a result, we decided that in terms of price-quality ratio, this is the best option. I've only been using cotton for a week, so I can't say anything about long-term use, but I am delighted with this week. I started the oven with a simple recipe from those that came with the kit. Classic white, airy egg. Then she baked Arabic sweet (recipe on the forum) What I want to say - not a single failure) All the bread rose, baked, was amazingly tasty, the aromas are awesome. Another Arabic (at the request of workers) and rye is scheduled for tonight.
My summary: I am very happy)

Girls - beauties who have Binatonchik 2169, are very interested in the programming function, since I bake bread mainly with sourdough at night, because there is no time during the day. Is it possible to program the process in your bread maker: kneading 15 minutes, proofing 30-60 minutes, kneading 5-15 minutes, proofing from 1-3 hours, baking 1 hour. More or less like this. I hesitated to set the alarm for the night and jump up all night. And one more question, what is the maximum weight? I would like a bread maker with a self-programming function, with two stirrers and also with a small bucket. Buying two more stoves is not a hunt, I would like to "kill all birds with one stone" or "hamsters" with one purchase. I would be grateful for your answer.

with two more mixers and programming there is Zairushi.

Girls - beauties who have Binatonchik 2169, are very interested in the programming function, since I bake bread mainly with sourdough at night, because there is no time during the day.Is it possible to program the process in your bread maker: kneading 15 minutes, proofing 30-60 minutes, kneading 5-15 minutes, proofing from 1-3 hours, baking 1 hour. More or less like this. I hesitated to set the alarm for the night and jump up all night. And one more question, what is the maximum weight? I would like a bread maker with a self-programming function, with two stirrers and also with a small bucket. Buying two more stoves is not a hunt, I would like to "kill all birds with one stone" or "hamsters" with one purchase. I would be grateful for your answer.

Lena, I write, write down
Mix 1: 3-14 minutes
Growth 1: 20-60 minutes
Mix 2: 8-24 minutes
Growth 2: 1-60 minutes
Growth 3: 20-120 minutes
Bake 0-80 minutes
Heat 0-120 minutes.

Two agitators in a large bucket, one agitators in small buckets (double).

Lena, I write, write down
Mix 1: 3-14 minutes
Growth 1: 20-60 minutes
Mix 2: 8-24 minutes
Growth 2: 1-60 minutes
Growth 3: 20-120 minutes
Bake 0-80 minutes
Heat 0-120 minutes.

Two agitators in a large bucket, one agitators in small buckets (double).

Ksyusha, and between the growth of 2 and 3 the oven does not crush the dough? Or how can you skip one growth, but put, for example, 150 minutes and then bake?

with two more mixers and programming there is Zairushi.

I have not seen this Zairushi anywhere on sale, but judging by the prices for thermo-pots, is the price for her not too low?

Ksyusha, and between the growth of 2 and 3 the oven does not crush the dough? Or how can you skip one growth, but put, for example, 150 minutes and then bake?

There is a workout, it lasts a couple of seconds. That's just the time, Len, I will not say, I did not notice. You cannot miss one growth. I think, according to your scheme, you will have to set Height 2 - 30 minutes, Growth 3 - 120 minutes, in total 150 minutes. Just do not cancel the workout.

Ksyusha, and between the growth of 2 and 3 the oven does not crush the dough? Or how can you skip one growth, but put, for example, 150 minutes and then bake?

Sorry, girls, for getting in, but I decided this rebus as follows: so that there is no unnecessary boning of the dough, I set growth 2 to 1 minute, and growth 3 as much as needed. Result: after the second kneading in a minute, kneading takes place and the sourdough dough does not suffer from unnecessary kneading, it is just an "intermittent" kneading

[Lana]

There is a workout, it takes a couple of seconds. That's just in time, Len, I will not say, I did not notice. You cannot miss one growth. I think, according to your scheme, you will have to set Height 2 - 30 minutes, Growth 3 - 120 minutes, in the end 150 minutes. But the workout cannot be canceled.

This is bad, Ksyusha, have you already programmed the stove? As the time runs out, please do a "test drive". the maximum time does not need to be set, everything is at a minimum, the main thing is to check whether it is possible to cancel one of the stages by setting 0 or not, and if according to your scheme, it may still not overshoot between the second growth and the third, but will further distribute the dough?

People, ay! who bakes in such an oven with sourdough and programming, answer me! Otherwise I will torture Ksyusha, and she has little children!

Lana! Please get into the conversation, I really need help!

Sorry, girls, for getting in, but I decided this rebus as follows: so that there is no unnecessary boning of the dough, I set growth 2 to 1 minute, and growth 3 as much as needed. Result: after the second kneading in a minute, kneading takes place and the sourdough dough does not suffer from unnecessary kneading, it is just an "intermittent" kneading

This is certainly an excellent solution. But if growth is needed for more than 120 minutes, there is no way

Girls still have a question, when is the dough in the oven higher than the temperature? In Panasik, when you open the lid it is warm.

Yes, the proofer is warming up, perceptible

Yes, the proofer is warming up, perceptible

Then, probably, 2 hours should be enough, because if the stove is programmed, there is no need to open the stove and look in and the heat is not lost?

Alternatively, you can still remove the agitators at height 2 (fortunately, all stages are displayed on the screen), it does not quite automatically work, but deboning will not be harmful