azaza
Quote: solex_trud

Girls, thank you all very much, I bought this technological miracle today)))
Happy dressing up, Alexey!
And for the recipes, poke here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=165813.0 This is a Temka about our Dex's twin brother, Brand. The difference between them is only in the name, the volume of the saucepan and the distribution market (Dex is sold only in Ukr., Brand in Russia). In that thread, the girls were very active in laying out recipes, unlike us lazy
innok
Quote: irysska

Alexei, Innochka, please accept my sincere congratulations. Let them work reliably
Irochka thanks
Stewed potatoes with ribs .... without a prescription .. From myself .. I fried ribs, onions, carrots. I cut the potatoes and stew for 1 hour .. in euphoria I forgot to salt ... I salt it when ready. it turned out very tasty ... And after that my mother closed up the stew with blue ones. CLASS
Yulia_red
Quote: VishenkaSV

Irina, do you need parchment when baking? Will the casserole stick to such a chic saucepan? Girls, did anyone cook bulk pizza at 60? In Orion, she stuck to the parchment tightly ...
Today I cooked pizza on parchment and barely scraped it off the paper. In the next. just try without it.
Grypana
Quote: Yulia_red

Can you give a proven recipe for jellied meat and on what program to cook?

On HP with me on "you"

Aspic as well as stew, not a single slow cooker spoiled (I have two). You can cook on the Stew, I cook these dishes on the Stew. I take meat more often chicken, pork leg or ears, tail, a piece of pork, beef, turkey can be used. That is, the meat that you eat and you have in stock. I removed the noise or foam for the first time, then boiled it and did not bother. Here are the recipes for jellied meat https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=2227.0

And an excellent stew (I cook often) - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=119741.0
Lozja
Quote: Yulia_red

Today I cooked pizza on parchment and barely scraped it off the paper. In the next. just try without it.

Paper can also be different. Nothing will ever stick to Freken-Bock - this is a fact. I don’t even buy others, I was burned more than once, it’s better to overpay.
Lozja
Quote: irysska

one hundred%. For baking, Freken bok parchment is super. I take with a special silicone coating.

And I don't read it, I take what they give. I always make such eyes in recipes for the phrase "grease the parchment well with oil." It turns out there are those that need to be smeared. Why, then, parchment at all? I thought not to smear the shape. It's just that Freken Bok was not there once, she took some other one. We ate with pizza. I don't experiment like that anymore.
But the topic, of course, is about something else.
nila
Quote: VishenkaSV

Girls, did anyone cook bulk pizza at 60? In Orion, she stuck to the parchment tightly ...
The other day I was preparing a squash pizza. However, for a safety net, I put a silicone mat. While I was baking in DEKSYUSH, I was worried about how I would shake her out of there! I thought that the trick with the steamer would not work, because there were tomatoes and cheese on top! When she was ready, she did not immediately touch it, but put it in a bowl to cool. When it completely cooled down, first near the fan (outside the window + 42 *), then in the refrigerator: I jumped out and did not catch on! And not one tomato did not move out and the bottom was not fried! I was pleasantly surprised
Lozja
Quote: solex_trud

And tell me, pliz, a pizza recipe .. Does it turn out delicious?

The one that was eaten right with the paper was from the oven. For the oven, I make a classic thin pizza, if necessary, I will write a dough recipe in a personal. It is delicious.
But for multi, I have not yet found my pizza, I made a liquid and simple, until that is all.
Lozja
Quote: innok

And I can also have a recipe ...

In order not to write much, I once took the recipe here a long time ago - 🔗
There will be no kolobok. The dough is soft and sticky, you can knead with a spatula, or with the hooks of a mixer. After proving, I distribute the dough with my hands, greased in rast. butter, on a baking sheet with a diameter of 30 cm. Grease with sauce. Be sure to add a lot of cheese on top of the sauce, and then the filling! You can also sprinkle a little cheese on top. But the bulk of the cheese should be inside the pizza! This is the secret of delicious pizza, I think. The filling does not matter at all, to taste, but in one layer, do not load too much! Bake as per recipe. Once I tried it and I don't even cook according to other recipes, this is so delicious it turns out.
One more moment - no mayonnaise on top, I beg you!
Lozja
Quote: azaza

Ksyusha, have you tried this recipe in the cartoon? If the dough is distributed on the baking sheet with your hands - in the same way, it seems to me, it would be possible to distribute it over the bottom of the saucepan. Not?

She tried it, Tanyush. But I was afraid to turn it off early, it seemed to me that it was not baked, I held it all the way and it turned out to be some kind of reinforced concrete. In general, it was not so, it is necessary to adapt somehow or for a multi other recipes to select.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

it turned out to be some kind of reinforced concrete. In general, it was not so, it is necessary to adapt somehow or for a multi other recipes to select.
And the second time you didn't risk it, did you?
So you are right now without an oven, so you would risk it again. Why look for other recipes if you like this one the most? You just need to find the optimal baking time. Or play with the temperature. As far as I understand, you still keep yourself 60? And there the time for baking is set, and you can try it on the manual one (120 *, 150 *, 180 *). An unplowed field for experimentation
Lozja
Quote: azaza

And the second time you didn't risk it, did you?
So you are right now without an oven, so you would risk it again. Why look for other recipes if you like this one the most? You just need to find the optimal baking time. Or play with the temperature. As far as I understand, you still keep yourself 60? And there the time for baking is set, and you can try it on the manual one (120 *, 150 *, 180 *). An unplowed field for experimentation

So I already tried in the cartoon when I was left without an oven. It seems to me, like in the oven, it still won't work. She's there soft, thin, without any crust. Well, as I put 60 on the locker, maybe I'll try it on the Manual. I haven't made up my mind yet, I walk, I look at her and think about it.

For multi, this dough will make 2 pizzas at least, the dough should be thin. (If anyone decides to do)
azaza
Quote: Lozja

Well, as I put 60 on the locker, maybe I'll try it on the Manual. I haven't made up my mind yet, I walk, I look at her and think about it.
What is there to think about? Well what can I think? !!
Oksan, I’ll tell you the greatest: there is always little money. Someone is not enough for a cartoon, someone for a yacht, someone for bread. But not enough for everyone! And the worst thing is always... Buy - get out, and you will praise yourself for the purchase. If you don't buy it, you won't get more money, but you will constantly regret that you refused a new assistant. No wonder they say: it is better to do and regret than not to do, and reproach yourself all your life for a missed opportunity.
Ksanchik, I've tried both. Well, you know, I also have 50 (though I already canned it before sending it to the child). The 60 has two drawbacks: too quiet (according to my needs) voice (at the same time absolutely charming!) And the heating countdown in hours, not minutes. As I already wrote here, both of these minuses are absolutely negligible, even in total. The sizes differ insignificantly: 60 is a centimeter taller and the muzzle is dull (smart, but not sharp). Yes, you already know that, "felt" repeatedly.
Then there are the pluses. Unlike the negligible disadvantages, they are more than significant, and there are not two of them. I still don't know all the advantages, there was no time to play, and even now I still cook only the most banal in a hurry, repairs take all the time and effort. But today for me a huge plus is the "Milk Porridge" mode! Yogurt is not in demand yet, but very, very soon I will be using it for proofing bread. I will need it literally for 10-15 minutes, but I need it !!! In the 50's, turn on the warm-up for at least 5 minutes - you still risk overheating. And the third significant plus is the handbrake. So far, I've only used it once, but it already seemed very important to me.
So, in principle, there is nothing to think about. The question "money" remains relevant. But see about this above: they are never superfluous, every time it will seem to you that now there is no time for multi.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

What is there to think about? Well what can I think? !!
Oksan, I will tell you a great thing: there is always little money. Someone is not enough for a cartoon, someone for a yacht, someone for bread. But not enough for everyone! And the worst thing is always... If you buy it, you get out of it, and you will praise yourself for your purchase. If you don't buy it, you won't get more money, but you will constantly regret that you have given up your new assistant. No wonder they say: it is better to do and regret than not to do, and reproach yourself all your life for a missed opportunity.
Ksanchik, I've tried both. Well, you know, I also have 50 (though I already canned it before sending it to the child). The 60 has two drawbacks: too quiet (according to my needs) voice (at the same time absolutely charming!) And the heating countdown in hours, not minutes. As I already wrote here, both of these minuses are absolutely negligible, even in total. The sizes differ insignificantly: 60 a centimeter taller and the muzzle is dull (smart, but not sharp). Yes, you already know that, "felt" repeatedly.
Then there are the pluses. Unlike the negligible disadvantages, they are more than significant, and there are not two of them. I still don't know all the advantages, there was no time to play, and even now I still cook only the most banal in a hurry, repairs take all the time and effort. But today for me a huge plus is the "Milk Porridge" mode! Yogurt is not in demand yet, but very, very soon I will be using it for proving bread. I will need it literally for 10-15 minutes, but I need it !!! In the 50's, turn on the warm-up for at least 5 minutes - you still risk overheating. And the third significant plus is the handbrake. So far I have only used it once, but it already seemed very important to me.
So, in principle, there is nothing to think about. The question "money" remains relevant. But see about this above: they are never superfluous, every time it will seem to you that now there is no time for multi.

Tan, yes I know all this. I just have a slightly different angle of view. If I didn’t have a multi at all, or if there was another one, less functional than all the Dacks in general, then I would not think. And so, I have the feeling that I am changing the same for the same, only at the same time I do not pay extra, but pay the entire cost, considerable, comparatively. All that is relevant to me in 60 is a removable lid and Milk porridge. I know, I know, yoghurts, handbrakes, I'll be happy later, etc., etc.
I'll probably take it anyway. Just delaying the moment, giving myself time to change my mind. This is not such a cartoon, this is me - I will think a hundred times whether I really need it so much. If I really need it, then I don't even think too much. But if I start to doubt, it means that it is not so necessary. In general, I am not a deviceaholic at all, that is, I like to look at devices, but I no longer buy than I buy. And it's not always about money. In general, everyone has their own troubles.
And the husband is not an assistant in this matter. If I hit the table "No!", I wouldn't have to break my head. And so, I pester, and he: "Well, you cook, see for yourself." At all.
azaza
Quote: Lozja

This is not a cartoon, this is me - I will think a hundred times whether I really need it so much. If I really need it, then I don't even think too much.
And well done! I used to be like that too. But that was exactly as long as I bought myself a first mate (Boshik). Before that, I had such a point of view: to pay money for something that I can perfectly do with my hands? it is better to buy expensive products with this money and to show off
And then my body sharply resisted. Stumbled on a cabbage. Winter - it is already wooden, the knife barely takes, and what efforts must be made for this! Having rebelled, I went to see what there are manual inexpensive cutters for cabbage. In search, I wandered into HP in the Cubix theme. In short, instead of an inexpensive cabbage cutter, I got a whole combine, expensive, but for everything. Only then did I understand what a real helper in the kitchen is! However, I got sick with bells and whistles much later, when I looked at HP to see about agar and stevia.What I still don't understand is this one as reading the agar topic could motivate me to buy HP? !! Either frame 25 is present here, or some other latest technologies, but I suddenly realized that without HP I would be lost. Well, then, like many here, And from the former sanity and frugality, not a trace remained
And you are a good fellow, a steadfast tin soldier
azaza
Quote: Lozja

And the husband is not an assistant in this matter. If I hit the table "No!", I wouldn't have to break my head. And so, I pester, and he: "Well, you cook, see for yourself." At all.
Oksan, once again in secret: husbands are not assistants in this matter, even if they fist on the table. Or maybe it’s just because I’m fist on the table. If my fist knocked less, mabut, I would still manage with one cartoon. And thanks to his “punching fist” I got Lieber, a pressure cooker, and an air grill. And now, on the way home, he comes up with what kind of chicken he wants today: in AG, in a pressure cooker or in a cartoon
And, which is characteristic, my device-addiction finally cured him of fist-banging. Now he is already quite willing to buy new things, despite the lack of money
Probably device addiction is more contagious and more severe than fist banging
Grypana
Quote: azaza

I wish I could drink this too to raise immunity

Girls, do not deny yourself and drink nothing bad! I also thought, like you Tanyusha, that my hands could cut and rub everything, and having a stove and an oven, I am a sorceress. Nope, I was wrong, I admit! And how Ksyusha considered herself resistant to temptations. But golden words -

Quote: azaza

If you buy it, you will get out, and you will praise yourself for your purchase. If you don't buy it, you won't get more money, but you will constantly regret that you refused a new assistant. No wonder they say: it's better to do and regret than not to do, and reproach yourself all your life for a missed opportunity.

This is my motto, how many times I was convinced! So how are your hands untied, and how much variety!

By the way, about the pizza in the cartoon. My favorite pizza in the cartoon is done like this - purchased puff-yeast dough, but first a little butter on the bottom and grind it with flour, then the filling - something with a string of tomato (rings), if there are no tomatoes, ketchup, then minced meat, or sausage, olives, onion in half rings, mushrooms (sometimes replacing with zucchini) and again rings of tomatoes. Everything went into the baking process, 10 minutes before the end - greens and cheese well. This is what we eat.
Lozja
Quote: irysska

Ksyusha, as a happy and contented owner of Deksyusha 60, I tell you - buy, he is smart.

Yes, I know, because I have the same practical smart girl. This is confusing. Here you would pay extra 800 UAH. for + a couple of programs (which you will not use every day) and a removable cover? Otherwise, they are almost the same.
irysska
Quote: Lozja

Here you would pay extra 800 UAH. for + a couple of programs (which you will not use every day) and a removable cover? Otherwise, they are almost the same.
Well, here's how the card would lay down: if mom, for example, needed a cartoon (and not just shove her own to buy a new one), then of course I would have taken a new one
but if I had no plans to have 2 multi, and there would be no place for the second, but it would just hit my head, then no, I would not pay
answered you honestly
GenyaF
Oksana!Well, I paid extra and I'm immensely glad. I use both Dexes all the time and very often at the same time, and my husband and I have only two eaters. Now I'm starting to dream about a pressure cooker, although I have a Soviet cooker. And there is no place in my kitchen at all, since we live in a 20 sq. meters, and on all these meters we have a bedroom-study-living room, shower room - dry closet, dining room-boiler room-laundry. If for garlic, then I don't even have a kitchen, so there is a corner at the entrance. But all my things are very much even placed, oh I forgot - the telescope is still between them.
irysska
Quote: Grypana

Ksyusha-Lozya, and it's a mod for us to wait for Deksik 70 - he will probably be a cartoon pressure cooker?
after all, our Deksik was licked off the Brand, and in the Brand branch the company representatives stated that the Brand no longer intends to give his developments to Dex, so in such a perspective with a pressure cooker something is not very believable, although everything can be
Keti
Girls, tell us how easy it is to pull out the valve? I persuaded my friend to buy DEKH-60. I myself was with her when we washed at the beginning - as a consultant. So I pulled the valve out only after I removed the inner cover and pushed the valve out with my finger. Like in DEX-50. And since the instructions say to turn clockwise, counterclockwise did not work - it turns, but does not take off.
And now she calls me, I ask - you wipe the valve after cooking, she - no, I can't take it off ...
azaza
Keti, not the entire valve is removed from above, but only its tip. Maybe somehow you can pull out the bottom half from above, using force and skill, but is it necessary? As if something does not crack. I had such a problem in the 50th, thanks to the kind people from our forum, they helped. In 60, I first remove the lid and push it in with my thumb. And even so, I do not pull it out after every cooking. Again, I'm afraid for its safety. This is the very case when it is better to over (insure) than not enough.
Deep
Quote: innok

And when I open the cap, the valve cap falls out ... I think my kid twisted it. Because when they checked in the store and brought home this was not ...

60? Maybe it's just not closed? Try turning it clockwise so that it is in the locked position.
Deep
Quote: innok

Oh thank you ... turn it as if towards the lock .. understand correctly?
By analogy with a mechanical dial - at the 7 o'clock position - the valve is closed, at the 5 o'clock position - open. I have drawn only an open lock (5 o'clock) - in this position the valve is open. And where "7 o'clock" - nothing is drawn, but in this position the valve is closed.
Keti
That is, it is necessary to twist it to "5 o'clock" and it will be removed by itself or should it still be removed with force?
Deep
Quote: VishenkaSV

I'd like to cook delicious fermented baked milk .. Please give me a proven recipe
To make fermented baked milk, you first need to make baked milk. I do it in a pressure cooker - I like it better, much faster - 20-30 minutes and it's done. In the cartoon they do "extinguishing" on the program (I have not tried it myself). Just pour no more than 1.5 liters. Extinguishing program - maximum time (in dex - 5 hours). Then again for "extinguishing" In total, it should languish for 6-8 hours.
Then you make fermented baked milk from baked milk. Everything is like regular yogurt. As a sourdough it is better to take fermented baked milk, but you can also make it from yogurt.

Quote: Keti

That is, it is necessary to twist it to "5 o'clock" and it will be removed by itself or should it still be removed with force?
In the 5 o'clock position, it can be easily removed by itself. Practically drops out.
azaza
Quote: Deep

In the 5 o'clock position, it can be easily removed by itself. Practically drops out.
Small correction - easily removable in this position upper part of the valve. Yes, it practically falls out, but only the upper part! The lower one sits firmly in the nest. In my opinion, even stronger than in the 50-ke.
Keti
Thank you. In my 50-ke, the valve easily jumps out on its own, I thought that it would be so here too.
azaza
Quote: Keti

Thank you. In my 50-ke, the valve easily jumps out on its own, I thought that it would be so here too.
I jump out easily when not well dressed. Then flies out every time you open the lid. And if you put it well in the nest - it sits like a cute one, you can pull it out only by pushing it with your finger from the inside.
rusja
Quote: Deep

As a sourdough it is better to take fermented baked milk, but you can also make it from yogurt.
Or you can use ordinary homemade sour cream or cream, it will be even tastier, but not store-bought (then it's better with sourdough or your own yogurt), I got a terrible toffee out of it. Apparently the bacteria didn't make friends
Deep
Girls do not confuse) I answered the question:

Quote: innok

And when I open the cap, the valve cap falls out ... I think my kid twisted it. Because when they checked in the store and brought home this was not ...

All my answers refer specifically to the "top valve cap"
Lozja
And I always made baked milk exactly on Slowing. It must languish. I turn it on all night, about 6-7 hours and go to sleep. In the morning you open it and voila - baked milk. But before that, I must boil, and then on the languor and sleep. Probably, you don't need to boil the store-bought one, it might not turn sour.
rusja
Quote: Lozja

Probably, you don't need to boil the store-bought one, it might not turn sour.
In such heat, anything is possible, it's better to play it safe
Julia V
Baked milk of course on simmering, on Stew the temperature is too high for this. I put on the Induction cycle, and then it stands for a few more hours with the lid closed, like a "thermos".
Deep
They say that stewing milk does not boil in a cartoon .. But I am not saying, because I don’t know for sure. I do all this exclusively in a pressure cooker. Try on languor, as the girls recommend.
azaza
Quote: Deep

I do all this exclusively in a pressure cooker. Try on languor, as the girls recommend.
I also use a heat cooker. If I had a chance to do it in 60-ke - perhaps, I would have used the manual mode 80 *, hours by 6. After that "Milk porridge" for an hour. It seems to me that it would be more optimal. On languishing, the first two hours practically fall out, this is not so much languishing as the preliminary preparation of the product, such as defrosting for frozen foods. And only from the third hour the immediate languor begins.
In the 50s - yes, there is only languor, 8 hours to mess up. And in the 60s there are more opportunities
Julia V
And I first boil the milk, and then immediately put it on the languor
azaza
And what's the point of driving a cartoon for two hours in vain at temperatures of 45 and 65 *? The taste and color will be richer if the milk languishes for 80 * during these two hours. And instead of preliminary boiling, it is better to give a "control to the head" at the end - you get an analogue of languishing, only more effective. Purely my IMHO, of course. Everyone adapts, as it is convenient for him.
Julia V
Well, yes, indeed, it's more convenient for me. I will fill in a 3 liter jar of milk and forget about it for half a day. And it languishes for itself. It turns out always creamy and with a taste so cool, sometimes even kind of "sour". And then little gruel from it, and in coffee, and so on to drink. It lasts a long time in the refrigerator, does not deteriorate. It's just a pity that nobody likes foam from it, but I add it to bread when I bake it.
Lozja
Quote: azaza

In the 50s - yes, there is only languor, 8 hours to mess up. And in the 60s there are more opportunities

8 - for home. Shopping and 5-7 are enough. The very thing is to get enough sleep, and no dancing with tambourines.
Kamusik
I also put on languor exclusively for the night! Without any troubles, because during the day you may need a cartoon, as for that sin ...
VishenkaSV
And to boil milk you need stewing or milk porridge? Something I have from the heat - porridge in my head I read the recipe for fermented baked milk - for 1 liter of milk 02 liters of cream and 300g of sour cream .. I think it should work out.
Lozja
Quote: VishenkaSV

And to boil milk you need stewing or milk porridge? Something I have from the heat - porridge in my head I read the recipe for fermented baked milk - for 1 liter of milk 02 liters of cream and 300g of sour cream .. I think it should work out.

I think, on any, on the Molochnaya he will not run away for sure, there is no need to follow.
rusja
So, unlike baked milk, ryazhenka does not need to be heated at all, especially now in such a heat, it can ferment itself, you can wrap it in a towel. This is still a very delicate fermented milk product and if more than 36-38C, fermented baked milk will not work, everything is just boiled there
My friend, to the joy of buying a slow cooker, decided to wash it with fermented baked milk and ... threw sour cream into the freshly stuck milk. Ryazhenka, alas, could not wait
Even heating in a cartoon will cook bacteria and for some reason my whey always bounced off, the nicest thing was to do in a yogurt maker. A clot at normal temperature forms 6-8 hours.
nila
Quote: VishenkaSV

And to boil milk you need stewing or milk porridge?
It is possible for a PAIR, and for a CHOICE of 15 minutes, but in any case you have to watch out and if you catch something !!! Otherwise he will run away!
Quote: rusja

So, unlike baked milk, ryazhenka does not need to be heated at all, especially now in such a heat, it can ferment itself, you can wrap it in a towel.
Milk must first boil, stop well and then cool to 38 * -40 * (to keep your finger warm). And only then: gently, spoonfully add homemade sour cream. It is not necessary to stir strongly: nyam: what would be a clot !!! Then, as my mother used to do, you need to wrap it up well in a blanket and put it in a warm place. But that was before, now we have a multicooker that can replace a thermos! You can turn on yogurt, but only for 15-20 minutes, then turn it off. The heat will remain there for a long time: girl_manikur! Well, if it cools down completely, and does not have time to ferment, you can also turn on YOGURT for 5-10 minutes.
Julia V
For a couple of times already, 3 times the milk ran away, you stand over it, you look carefully, and just turned away, and it is already on the way and now the spots on the heating element are brown, such as rust, can someone tell me what to wipe off in general over the summer my cartoon inside got sick
nila
Quote: Julia V

For a couple of times already, 3 times the milk ran away, you stand over it, you look carefully, and just turned away, and it is already on the way and now the spots on the heating element are brown, such as rust, can someone tell me what to wipe off in general over the summer my cartoon inside got sick
Well, that means I did well (y) and managed to catch! But you need something like that: smartass: adapt :) not to boil on gas ?!
Cillit bang can taste spots?
VishenkaSV
About stains somewhere I read Cif helps. I tried. I poured it on the spots and after a few minutes wiped it with a sponge .. And so several times. And you know, all the stains have been rubbed off! tried and tested way
Deep
Quote: Julia V

For a couple of times already, 3 times the milk ran away, you stand over it, look carefully, and just turned away, and it is already on the way
And where did you read about the need to boil milk for a couple? Have you seen how the steam boils? There even water almost runs away)) what can I say about milk! Boil in milk porridge!

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