Furniture for kitchen

Only color - gray or black

If gray, then dark gray. Black is more convenient.

Ideally, it should be cast in one piece with the tabletop.

also wanted so. But now she changed her mind. I can change my sink at any time.

[Lena]

Lena, I'm in this business "teapot", in the store mostly stainless steel plus some other, but I don't understand anything, that's why I asked, now I will know and think, thanks!
And now the question is, if the kitchen is made to order, what is the first thing to buy the sink and then order the kitchen?

[Vesta]

Vesta, Svetlana, making a kitchen is not a quick process, you will have time to choose and buy a sink, first decide on the model to take this into account when designing the kitchen: the place and size of the inset, the choice of curbstones will depend on this.

also wanted so. But now she changed her mind. I can change my sink at any time.

I would rather change the countertop.)) I6o the sink is probably eternal, and my countertop is an ordinary fiberboard-shnaya plastic. ((The dispenser is cut into it next to the sink and near it there is eternal dampness. Although, of course, if the sink is spacious, then it 6 we found a place at the sink, but my sink is small, 45 cm (well, I really don’t like spreading sinks)

If gray, then dark gray. Black is more convenient.

Maybe so. We have three black (with grayish sparkles) and one terracotta in the yard. So now I even like it more than black ones in leaving.))

And now the question is, if the kitchen is made to order, what is the first thing to buy the sink and then order the kitchen?

Yes, no difference. But we ordered the kitchen when we already had everything for building in. But it all came together in the end. Although the sizes of almost everything are standardized, but suddenly you ordered one size, and then saw and fell in love with something else?

Please tell me, how many sockets do you need in the kitchen? an electrician will come tomorrow, I counted 14.

[Vesta]

Vesta, Sveta, look for the picture "cheat sheet for sockets" .. It repeats here literally every few pages. Well, at least 14 for sure

[Vesta]

Vesta, Ikea has a very good layout. It is necessary not only the number of outlets, but also their correct location relative to the floor and special built-in appliances (electric oven, dishwasher).

Well, at least 14 for sure

that's for sure, when we changed the wiring, I took my whole brain out to my husband and still did not as much as I asked, did only ten, like, how much more .. now it's inconvenient, there are not enough sockets, I take out one, turn on the other and every time angry

[Vesta]

Vesta, Sveta, look for the picture "cheat sheet for sockets" .. It repeats here literally every few pages. Well, at least 14 for sure

Ineta is not normal yet, but it's hard to search from the phone, but I'll try, thanks.

[Vesta]

Vesta, Sveta, look for the picture "cheat sheet for sockets" .. It repeats here literally every few pages. Well, at least 14 for sure

Not this? Furniture for kitchen

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, thanks, I also mean this picture. I didn't know that she was called a cheat sheet - :)

I didn't know either. I saw it by chance.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, Helen, yes - that's her. It is duplicated here from time to time

Even above the working surface is scarce. Well, where does that fit, only 4 pieces ?? !!
Kettle, com6ain, multicooker, Princess, egg cooker, packer, 6lender, waffle maker, meat grinder, mixer, coffee grinder and so on, so on, so on ... Not everything works right away. But many things need to be able to sometimes turn on at the same time, or that we do not constantly pull back and forth. Here my radio is constantly on. And a TV. And a receiver to it. Already minus three sockets. This is an example.)

Today I was an electrician, they decided with him for a long time, they thought, I would have a table between the stove and the refrigerator, there will be a double table above it, then there will be a triple table between the sink and the stove above the work surface, and on the other side of the sink there will be a triple one.

[Vesta]

Vesta, few. increase by 2 times. And I made a lot of sockets, but I didn't live in this apartment. I mentally arranged the technique, and then rearranged it. Now a long extension cord across the kitchen floor.

[Vesta]

Vesta, Svetochka, also agree with an electrician so that there are sockets from different lines, so that it does not work out that you will simultaneously have energy-intensive appliances plugged into sockets on the same line, for example, a kettle and a pizza maker or a coffee maker. I'm not talking about the hob.
I'm not very good at this, but when I had everything on the same line, the machine could not stand it, and when my husband divorced it in different ways, I make sure not to turn it on at the same time, and there are no problems.
In addition, I personally solved the issue with the number of outlets not with a "battery" on the wall half a meter, but with an extension cord with a separate switch for each socket.
I'm somewhere posted a photo... This is very convenient for many devices, which are now often produced without a separate switch, but simply by plugging into a socket.

[Vesta]

Vesta, few. increase by 2 times. And I made a lot of sockets, but I didn't live in this apartment. I mentally arranged the technique, and then rearranged it. Now a long extension cord across the kitchen floor.

I would love to, but firstly, this is not a cheap pleasure, and secondly, the kitchen is smaller than it was in the old apartment and the work surfaces are smaller, I figured how much I could put appliances on the countertop at the same time. Plus, these sockets will be on the stove, refrigerator, hood, microwave and, just in case, for the dishwasher. There are a lot of points for each separate payment.

Vesta, Svetochka, also agree with an electrician so that there are sockets from different lines, so that it does not work out that you will simultaneously have energy-intensive appliances plugged into sockets on the same line, for example, a kettle and a pizza maker or a coffee maker. I'm not talking about the hob.
I'm not very good at this, but when I had everything on the same line, the machine could not stand it, and when my husband divorced it in different ways, I make sure not to turn it on at the same time, and there are no problems.
In addition, I personally solved the issue with the number of outlets not with a "battery" on the wall half a meter, but with an extension cord with a separate switch for each socket.
I'm somewhere posted a photo... This is very convenient for many devices, which are now often produced without a separate switch, but simply by plugging into a socket.

Olya, I clarified this moment with him, said that the wiring in this house will withstand, you can put a more powerful machine. And in order to lead another line, it will be necessary to cut half an apartment, I'm not ready for this. I bought such an extension cord, I tried to use it in that apartment, only the dough was kneaded in the bread maker: (it turned off the rest, even if it turned on one thing)

I have a Legrand Comfort with a swivel mechanism. two for 5 and one for 4 outputs. Connected to different lines. Cut off the plug and plug it in. This is considered an extension cord.
They are also attached to furniture or to the wall. It is also possible vertically.
It is very difficult to calculate right away. Practically impossible
PMM, coffee maker and thermopot have their own sockets, like microwave. Not enough for me .... It's only on the work surface.

Legrand Comfort Extension cable 3 grounded sockets with shutters, rotating block with locking

It is necessary to calculate the power of the devices and, with an electrician, already scatter them over the sockets. I did that at home. There are 22 of them ..... in the kitchen

I bought such an extension cord, I tried to use it in that apartment, only the dough kneading in the bread maker kept it off from the rest, even if it turned on one thing

The quality there, of course, is awful, but my husband took it apart, re-soldered all the contacts, divided the upper and lower rows into 2 lines, now everything works and does not turn off.
Moreover, a kettle, a pizza oven, a multicooker, and a coffee maker can work at the same time.

And in order to lead another line, it will be necessary to cut half an apartment, I'm not ready for this

I have a distribution box under the ceiling in my kitchen. Previously, such wiring was done from a common box in the corridor in every room and kitchen. Maybe you have the same ones, you can use them less. All the same, different lines are needed for sockets. At least hold the second and divide the sockets on them.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, you can put a more powerful machine. But it is necessary that the wire can withstand the load. After all, it will warm up from a strong current. And also - on the wiring from the kitchen you need to put not an ordinary machine, but an RCD - there is water in the kitchen.

Vesta, Svetlana, I strongly advise you to draw up a plan for the distribution of wires along the walls. The electrician drew it himself, indicating the distance from the floor, from the door frame.

in the store there are mostly stainless steel plus some other, but I don't understand anything, that's why I asked

Do not take a stainless steel, all the traces of drops are visible on it, it's just some kind of horror. Each time after opening the water, you need to wipe it dry, otherwise the view is very sloppy (especially when all these drips on the wing dry up). I was so tired of these dances with rags that I immediately took a "stone" kitchen to the new kitchen. Life is much easier with her!

[Anchic]

Life is much easier with her!

... and more expensive Did you try to wipe it right away without letting it dry? Of course, the dirt is not so visible on the stone, but it dries up there and remains if it is not wiped off ... just like a stainless steel.




Anchic, Happy Birthday!

Did you try to wipe it right away without letting it dry?

that's exactly what I did, and that's what I'm writing about - with a stainless steel, all life turns into dancing with a rag, otherwise - drops and traces.
And it's not about dirt, but about traces of water drops. Well, in general, I didn't really understand why such an aggressive tone.

Yes, never aggressive))), what are you? It seemed. I have a stainless steel and yes, drops, drops, drops ... But I washed the dishes, wiped them dry and no drops. After all, you do the same with stone dishes after washing. And with the wing, we do this. In Galamart we bought napkins from ... uuuuu, I forgot! from what, but not fabric, but reed-bamboo ... I don't know. And we put it on the wing. Under such a napkin, the wing is always clean. The napkin is washed off under running water and hung to dry. FSE!

After all, you do the same with stone dishes after washing.

Not the same at all. I washed the dishes, washed the sink and that's it. No wiping with rags.

... and more expensive

Once upon purchase. My sink is seven years old, I would never exchange it for a stainless steel. And the price is not that much higher to even discuss it. We're not buying a sink for the kitchen for 1 month.

here I am suffering with stainless steel, got it

Zhen, I was worn out in the last apartment. Therefore, in the new one I looked only at the stone. And mine is almost white (with pink small splashes), which I have not heard enough horror stories: and that it will crack from the hot, and that it darkens with time, and that aluminum and silumin in it cannot be washed Everything is nonsense! After 7 years, I have it in its original form, mine with whatever came to hand, and gel, and powder. In short, no stainless steel!

PS: the only horror story that has not yet been verified is that a grinder cannot be installed with a stone sink. But I think I will check it out soon, because the thought of a chopper literally haunts me

And the price is not that much higher to even discuss it. We're not buying a sink for the kitchen for 1 month.

Directly the most interesting became, went and looked. No price difference! NO, Karl!

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The first site that came across

that a grinder cannot be installed with a stone sink.

do not stand on sinks glued to the countertop. on solid ones you can.

PS: the only horror story that has not yet been verified is that a grinder cannot be installed with a stone sink. But I think I will check it out soon, because the thought of a chopper literally haunts me

Irish, I have a chopper for the fourth year with such a sink, but the truth is I have it in a small sink bowl, no problems)) and the chopper itself is the most favorite device in my kitchen, a very necessary thing

do not stand on sinks glued to the countertop. on solid ones you can.

why? My sink is cut into the countertop, I never heard that it is impossible to mount the grinder in this case ...

sink is embedded in the countertop

embedded and glued are not the same thing.

do not stand on sinks glued to the countertop. on solid ones you can.

Why?! I had a stone sink and a stone countertop, first they bought a sink, then they made a countertop and when buying a sink they asked us whether we would put a grinder or not .... Taking into account the guarantee for the sink for 25 years, would they really offer what will significantly worsen the quality ?!

Why?! I had a stone sink and a stone countertop, first they bought a sink, then they made a countertop and when buying a sink they asked us whether we would put a grinder or not .... Taking into account the guarantee for the sink for 25 years, would they really offer what will significantly worsen the quality ?!

I was immediately told not to bet. they do not give guarantees.

first they bought a sink, then they made a countertop

How is it ?

Seven years old my shell

My 12

Vitaly, you are definitely a winner

[Kara]

Kara,

(Quietly from the bushes ..) And mine is 26. I have gone through three headset changes, I love her and will not exchange for anything.

And mine is 26.

Is it really enameled ??

I also have a stainless steel, old, she is about 12-13 years old. Nice, thick, deep. I do not know if it is necessary to change it to modern "stones" in order to reduce body movements when cleaning, because they also need care? Well, they washed the dishes, wiped them with a sponge or rag, right? I just wipe the stainless steel with a wrung-out sponge and that's it ... I don't have perfectionism about wiping off drops (??)
I am much more concerned about the required diameter of the sewer pipe for the grinder. It will not turn out that the skins from the potatoes will be trampled on to the neighbors, clogging the sewers?

I have a stainless steel and yes, drops, drops, drops ... But I washed the dishes, wiped them dry and no drops. After all, you do the same with stone dishes after washing. And with the wing, we do this. In Galamart we bought napkins from ... uuuuu, I forgot! from what, but not fabric, but reed-bamboo ... I don't know. And we put it on the wing. Under such a napkin, the wing is always clean. The napkin is washed off under running water and hung to dry. FSE!

Here I am writing about that - eternal dancing with rags. I opened the water - rubbed it, opened it again - rubbed it again, put a napkin on, dry a napkin ... You just can't imagine how much easier and more convenient it is with a stone one. Heaven and earth.

Is it really enameled ??

No, stainless steel. The first set bought in the year 90 was Semipalatinsk. R. Kazakhstan. With a total shortage of furniture in our city, I stood in line for the kitchen. a set of a local factory of the year yeah, in the end I bought this one when I met you ... The sink is huge, deep, thick stainless steel, I love it. I wipe it with a microfiber cloth. I do not suffer from pefectism. Therefore, the drops do not bother.

No, stainless steel.

Yes, then I rubbed my brain and remembered that in fact stainless steel sinks have lived a long time ago.

But for me, even a drop is not the worst thing - I do not like this table sound of dishes in metal sinks. Such a thrill from the silence was after moving to polymer! Although people are struggling - they foamed the shell outside and it becomes more muffled by the sounds.

Here I am writing about that - eternal dancing with rags. I opened the water - wiped it, opened it again - wiped it again, put the napkin on, dry the napkin ... You just can't imagine how much easier and more convenient it is with a stone one. Heaven and earth.

I also have a stainless steel sink for 10 years, but matte.I wipe it periodically with the same napkin as the countertop. Without fanaticism. The main thing here is a good microfiber napkin

I also have a sink, but a double matt stainless steel. For 17 years, I also wipe it with a cloth.

Girls planning a kitchen. It is possible to order 2 draw-out drawers 1200 mm wide under the induction hob. I think for storing all sorts of things that will not interfere with induction. Does anyone have drawers this size, handy? Or it is better to divide by 600-600, 900-300. Here in this version .
Or initially

[lira3003]

lira3003, Rita, I would order 800 and 400. This wide will be very heavy, I think, if it is heavily loaded.

I would order 600 and 600.
1200 - rolling out such a colossus in order to get a saucepan or lid is, well, completely inappropriate.

And what about the cooking room then? Have to move either to the edge or to the sink?
Yesterday, to celebrate, I said 1200, but now I doubt it. We were at work 1000, very convenient, loaded to capacity. The fittings are hittich, the load is up to 40kg said. But they will promise



In the original version, there are more upper cabinets, but they are only for plastic dishes and napkins. This wall is rather weak, my husband said not to load it. True, out of 3 cabinets 300-600-300 we will make one for 1200 with two facades. Just to avoid the "stockade" and to facilitate the construction. Tell me what?