Furniture for kitchen

[Belka13]

2 drawers 1200mm wide.

Agree with Belka13, such a box will be very heavy, the draw-out mechanism must be very durable and it will be terribly expensive. And it can still break down quickly.
I have 800 - very roomy. And heavy. I try to use it carefully, it has been working for more than 10 years. German quality

I have 90 cm full extension drawers, it is very convenient, there are 60 cm, all the same they are less functional. As for the fittings, I have the cheapest roll-out, a set for 80 rubles, my husband made me additional fasteners, that is, I have runners in two rows and the problem is solved. Roll out easily, good capacity.

[Stafa]

The designer said that full extensions are more than a thousand and a half, so there is no question if they are really more convenient. In the salon, I did not notice the difference. But, this is from what I'm used to in the old, ordinary without closers ...
I now need to determine the location and size more. At 600 they will be after the PMM, before the LH. By the way, my husband agreed to raise it higher, but they found only this place, behind there are heating pipes. Therefore, the pedestal with the LH will protrude 10 cm in front. There is also a draw-out box for 600 under the LH.
Or not to worry about the appearance? Leave the brewhouse as it is, and under it from the left edge there are 2 drawers for 900, then cargo for 300?



Stafa, Svetlana,. My then, too, was going to collect the kitchen itself.

But for some reason, the desire has disappeared and there is no strength. He knows how to do it himself, he assembled two wardrobes. Two are cheaper than we were offered in our size.

I decided that I would pay better. And if I slow it down now, I will continue to live without repairs in the kitchen and without the kitchen itself

Mine did not even begin to collect, but repair it all the same to him

I have a box for 700 in my summer kitchen. We screwed one of the parts of the most ordinary dish drainer there and this is what happened as a result

Pots, containers, lids and cutting boards all fit in one place.

[Wiki]

Wiki, class! I have a dryer for 600, then I also want to adapt it to a drawer.
Mine woke up, changed my mind to raise the LH. Suggests that DSH is again under the cooking

We screwed one of the parts of the most ordinary dish dryer there

It is very convenient to put the lids from the pots into it. I did not screw it on, I just put it on, 10-11 covers of almost any diameter are included

... It is possible to order 2 drawers 1200mm wide under the induction hob.
Anyone have drawers this size, handy? Or it is better to divide by 600-600, 900-300. Here in this version .

Ritulya, hurray! You started designing the Kitchen! Wonderful!

Rita, I like this version, I repeated it here on purpose. Of course, when one wall is free and decorated with a hood, it is beautiful, gives lightness and, finally, it is fashionable now - :)
But! Usually, a corrugation goes from the hood directly into the ventilation hole. Where do you get it? Is everything so perfect? Is this why this pipe is not on the project? Then it's super!

About the rolled-out cabinet for 1200 under the hob, I agree with the girls that it will be very heavy. Even rolling it out will not be easy for you. Estimate what will be in such a huge and deep closet? Pots, pans, lids, that is, the heaviest utensils.
I agree with the girls that we need to share it.
I showed you my 700 wardrobes and squeaked with happiness.
I want to draw your attention to the fact that the Bottom drawer is deep, high pans fit in there easily, but above it the second one is the same in depth, why? Maybe the second drawer in depth can be split into two drawers? Then directly under the hob there will be one drawer with what you need at hand - these are scapulae, mittens, foil and the like, for example. In the middle drawer, think about what to put.And this cabinet, divided into 3 levels, will create a certain symmetry to the same cabinet in the area of ​​the oven.

Also, Rita, it's not very clear why the cabinet above the oven was shortened. Maybe it is still in line with all the attachments?



And yet, Rituyla, the upper cabinets are not symmetrical to the lower ones. Or so it seems?

[lira3003]

lira3003, went to measure .. No, I do not hold, only 105 cm. But the depth is more than usual - our table top is wider than the standard, albeit not much. I have been using it with great pleasure for many years and I look at the owners with sympathy stubs more common boxes of 60 cm. But I have three boxes in height, the top one for forks-spoons and small things.
Middle drawer with glass, and the handle is held by the glass. And nothing has broken down yet, which indirectly suggests that the load is not as high as it seems.))



lira3003, and more .. Are the swing top drawers convenient for you? My children, accustomed to the fact that when the cabinet door is open (raised) with your head against anything, they pounded a bunch of bumps in other people's kitchens.))

[lira3003]

lira3003, Rita, ask your husband to take care of your back - it's hard to get a hot, heavy baking sheet out of a low oven.

[lira3003]

Does anyone have boxes this size

And it's convenient for me lira3003, Rita! I have all the pots and pans there, and oh, how many of them fit:

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, my husband made slopes on the window today! It remains to glue the wallpaper, lay the laminate. The ceilings will be stretch. Tomorrow we are going to the salon to make a refund. We hurried, we looked at a lot of things we don't like at home ... We want to order in another, a photo from which I posted.
But, we will collect from these two options. All the same, it is convenient to raise the LH, but it will not go to our corner ... There are pipes and a TV nearby ...
Bijou, Lena, the upper cabinets are certainly better, either with an elevator or as on a dryer, but the price tag is more than 7 thousand, does it make sense? I'm trying to make all the lower cabinets slide out (if my husband doesn't nail it) ..
.Belka13, Olga, trying to convey to him the thoughts of my poor aching lower back
dopleta, Larissa, excellent! It's good that there are positive emotions! If they weren't convenient, they wouldn't be produced! It's just that they don't know our stocks of devices.

lira3003, Rita, will you order at Stylish?

All the same, it is convenient to raise the LH, but it will not go to our corner ... There are pipes and a TV nearby ...

Ahhh ... what's the matter. And I wonder why they didn't put the oven in the pencil case at all. It's a pity, of course - the closet at chest level is very convenient, you start cooking more often, because it's easier.

but the price tag is over 7 thousand, does it make sense?

Why is the price tag so expensive? I don't remember how much it cost, but there are just two ordinary gas lifts. Their price is five hundred rubles, I guess.
This is how our cabinets are arranged - three rows of two cabinets. (photo from internet)


They began to order my son - already on the day of installation, I discovered that they had shoved expensive Bloom systems. At the same time, it is particularly inconvenient for me to use them - the first jerk to open should be stronger (the door is tighter), it opens slowly and closes too slowly (the system is automatic). It makes me mad! At the same time, they also eat away the place, be healthy. So you would first specify there what kind of mechanisms they offered you in the salon. It cannot be that if two doors are placed horizontally on gas lifts as much as 7 thousand more expensive than hanging them on hinges (which also cost money, for a minute) vertically.

[Bijou]

lira3003, Rita, will you order at Stylish?

Most likely. Believe it or not, we toured several salons, but my husband only liked the drawing and color of the facades there. Yesterday we came again, went to the salon, when he saw these facades, he says I like them the most !!! Well, what to do with him, I agree .... (like I am so flexible).

Bijou, Lena, that's exactly Blum all the loops. The husband does not want such gas lifts for the dryer, because there is a two-tiered dryer itself. And I think that most of the time it will be open, like a showcase ... They don't like to look for my dishes, they need to see where the cups and plates are. And I'll find out tomorrow for the rest of the cabinets.
But, in the figure, the height of the upper cabinets is 720? And I want higher, I wanted 960, but while I was looking at the countertops, they brought 900 with my husband. Doesn't it work with gas lifts then? Need other expensive hinges? Or are there options?

But, in the figure, the height of the upper cabinets is 720? And I want higher, I wanted 960

I wish I knew something about this. 90 is 45 each locker? Then yes, the door will probably turn out too heavy. We have an individual order, each box of the size that I wanted (and which fit into the landscape) (I measured the height with a bottle of oil so that it could fit on the shelf)

For a long time it was strange for me to hear that people seem to order a kitchen in the studio, but they are obliged to use only standard sizes.

but they are obliged to use only standard sizes.

They also make the height of the upper cabinets any, it seems. No, I need to be held back a little, otherwise give free rein, I'll compose.
I would at least figure out this forest without going into the thicket
We were in the same salon two years ago, by an acquaintance. So the designer made me think so that I almost left her in shock. In the car, I told my husband that I don't want any kitchen! There was a feeling that she planned everything for herself ...
And now, bypassing other kitchens, we come home and just discuss what-how-where ... I hope we will order it this month

I have a door height of 45 cm on gas lifts, a door length of 90 cm - very convenient. I, after the apartment suite with hinged doors, said that there were either no upper cabinets, or only rising up. And I have only one tier at the top cabinets and only 2 cabinets, for small things and the second for drying. And the simplest gas lifts.

[under induction]

only 2 cabinets, for small things and a second for drying

I can't even imagine where to hide everything that I have acquired? Well, I don't have a private house, I have an apartment ...

Maybe the second drawer in depth can be split into two drawers?

AND

But I have three drawers in height, the top one for forks-spoons and small things.

I want to clarify, is this about the drawers under the hob? Ie. under induction can you store forks and spoons? Why I ask, I wanted to divide the bottom into 3 boxes in the salon, but both the husband and the designer immediately said "nizzyaya !!!"

I wrote in the topic about the cartoon element that I put it on a desktop induction ... The cartoon is hoarse (now I miss it), and the stove generally went to the other end of the city to be repaired ...

[lira3003]

lira3003, Rita, if the spoons-forks do not magnetize, then you can store there. But some of these products are magnetised and may heat up in close proximity. But I don't know how the hob works - what's underneath.

[Anchic]

Anchic, Anna, that's just the point .... I don't know either.
I see that Larisa also has 2 drawers under cooking. By chance?

... but they are obliged to use only standard sizes.

Not all manufacturers make custom sizes easy. Each time you need to reconfigure the equipment.
Sometimes the reason is that some options cannot be done for technical reasons. For example, a standard tabletop has a certain size, furniture manufacturers buy it ready-made and only saw the necessary pieces. If you need larger sizes, then you need to order individually from those who make these tables.
The most interesting thing is that many buyers are interested first: is it factory furniture? And then they want to order according to their size and wonderful configuration. Why is it interesting? Besides, what if this is a large factory, then the furniture is made standard there and no one will waste time on a separate kitchen. Small businesses, such as ateliers, work with non-standard furniture. Naturally, furniture there is more expensive.
Most often, these small firms do not make themselves, since they cannot afford expensive equipment, which costs 5-15 million, but complete furniture. In the best case, they are sawing the hulls. The rest is on the side: facades in one place, a table in another, accessories from a wholesaler. Then all this is planted with ordinary drills, since a good filler machine also costs a lot.

If the upper cabinets open upwards, in 2 rows, as in the photo from the Internet from Lena-Bijou, will you be able to close the upper cabinet?
I remember, somewhere in the salon I opened the top cabinet to look at, but I didn’t sniff to close it :))

As for the retractable forks-spoons under the induction cooker, it is impossible, because there must be air circulation. Under the induction, I have a deep pull-out 80 cm under the pots, when you cook, the pots in the drawer are hot.

I reach: height 167. Kitchen height: bottom 850. wall 600, top 700 is divided into two drawers. If it were higher, it would not have reached. I have 900 vertical cabinets. The difference between cabinets is in the form of an open shelf.



And if they were up to the ceiling (2.7), then I would not get it at all.

I remember that somewhere in the salon I opened the top cabinet to look at it, but I didn’t sniff to close it :))

I’m afraid that I don’t sniff either .. Then only double fronts, but the price tag

I reach: height 167. Kitchen height: bottom 850. wall 600, top 700 is divided into two drawers. If it were higher, it would not have reached. I have 900 vertical cabinets. The difference between cabinets is in the form of an open shelf.

I have 164, even if the top is hung lower, I do not want open top shelves. It was a sad experience. I generally wanted the top to the ceiling. That on the open upper shelves, that I will instruct on the closed ones, but at least it is not necessary to wash the good from the cabinets of ethno. The husband sits, grumbles that it will not be beautiful. Type mismatch in height

The husband sits, grumbles that it will not be beautiful. Type mismatch in height

it will be absolutely normal. what is your height? I have 3 meters. I did the bottom 92, the gap 78 (well, these are my troubles, I do not like to beat my forehead against the cabinets) and the top also 92 (I would have done it higher, but then the ventilation duct was blocked). From the very top, I have wardrobes with a single door, there is what is needed very rarely. The lower ones have a double lifting door (the handle is at the bottom. It is convenient to open and close), but on their upper shelf there is also something that I rarely use. My height is 167cm.
Rita, and think about the depth of the hanging cabinets. I did according to Ikea standards - 39cm, but now I would increase it by 5 more centimeters

Rita, look how many different ideas have been thrown over to you, and all taking into account the exploitation.
Open the ikea website, there is an excellent planner. Build your own kitchen, lay out all the utensils and only after that or into the salon. It is very important to put everything in its place, so you will understand what size to plan the cabinets.
Everything heavy goes down. The wider the roll-out cabinet, the more convenient it is to place in it. Above, we have already talked about its length. At the same time, one drawer with drawers is not very wide, too. Can you figure out where the bread will be stored? Where will the cutlery be stored? For example, I was very much satisfied with a 40 cm closet: in one shallow drawer of spoons and forks, bread products are lower, the lowest and deepest went under heavy equipment.
In short, throw in a couple of options in the planner, and arrange not only kitchen cabinets, but also a refrigerator and a table with chairs. And put it to us here- :))))

The wider the roll-out cabinet, the more convenient it is to place in it.

I strongly disagree. At one time I was led to this thesis. And the boxes have turned into a trash heap, nothing to be found, because everyone in the family strives to lay out the utensils according to their understanding.
Now I made boxes no wider than 60 cm, I'm not overjoyed.
Everything is IMHO, of course.

That on the open upper shelves, that I will instruct on the closed ones, but at least it is not necessary to wash the good from the cabinets of ethno.

In principle, I have nothing on open shelves except pots. From time to time I just take them off and wash them in the dishwasher. Well, I wipe the shelves, of course.
By the way. if you rub a clean shelf with furniture polish with wax, then the fat does not practically stick. I wipe these shelves once a week in general cleaning, first with a damp cloth with a drop of Fairy, then just damp to remove the soapiness, then dry and with a polish. Well, maybe 10 minutes I spend on them in total, despite the fact that this is generally a summer kitchen - where the dust from the street is many times greater than in the house. I like open shelves, they don't look as loaded as they are completely closed.

what is your height?

265, stretch will eat 10cm, 255 will remain.
I have a height of 164, if I'm not growing back.
Therefore, I will hang the upper ones below, about 55-60. And the depth is 30, but this is in Stylish, it is necessary to clarify whether it can be increased. I don’t know in others.

Rita, I really like the inclined cooker hood and it suits me completely (I have it with a width of 900, and the stove is 600). Everything pulls out, but of course it makes a lot of noise when I use it at the maximum. I have a drawer for forks, spoons, etc. under the oven (oven at the countertop level). And also measure your devices in height (HP, cartoon, etc.) in order to understand in which boxes you can hide them. In stylish kitchens, you can make a non-standard size of boxes (just I don't remember the height or width) and they did not take extra money for this before, and in other salons the price tag immediately increased almost 2 times from the price of the box. In the salon there is a large selection of different options for boxes and everything, you can mentally try on it is convenient or not to use something, you will reach the height or you will have to jump to the upper box

if the forks are not magnetised, they can be stored there. But some of these products are magnetised, and may heat up in close proximity.

Anya, according to this theory, all the utensils for the induction (after all, it is magnetised) stored in the drawers under the panel get hot? Nothing like this! All my pans are not heated at all! Not at all!

[Tanya-Fanya]

Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, they don't let me go to my computer, then my son or my husband hangs up

And the boxes have turned into a trash heap, nothing to be found, because everyone in the family strives to lay out the utensils according to their understanding.

While the daughters-in-law are not there, there is no one to play there especially, but I myself can

From time to time I just take them off and wash them in the dishwasher. Well, I wipe the shelves, of course.

I understand that open shelves are more beautiful, but washing everything every week is heroism for me! And when in the net to sit, cook, walk with the dog, sew, read? Somehow I would like to do less washing .... excuse the asshole.
Svetlana, I understood about the hood. Let's see if I can persuade my husband, he does not want an inclined one. Although I really like

All my pans are not heated at all!

Also

but washing everything every week is heroism for me!

Wow asshole - wash every week. I wash these upper pots only during general cleaning or before cooking (there is also an Italian saucepan for induction that works on it, but the diameter probably does not quite fit) - I still don’t even see them so high

[dopleta]

dopleta, Larissa, firstly, I wrote that I do not know the device of the hob from below. Perhaps there is something there that is blocking the downward propagation of the magnetic field. And secondly, the keywords are in the immediate vicinity. That is, the shallow box was meant. It is unlikely that pots will fit in such a box. The greater the distance from the source of induction, the weaker the waves. At some distance, they can already be neglected.

Under my induction cooker, the pots do not heat up from the current, but from the fan.
When you cook a lot, the stove gains heat, inside the fan drives hot air. If the drawer is small, there may not be enough circulation. Although, if there is an oven under the stove, there is also a small gap. But in the case of an oven, the technological gaps must be enlarged.

Surely, the instructions for a specific induction cooktop have information about what and how you can place under it.

[Anchic]

All my pans are not heated at all! Not at all!

Larissa, can it be from the manufacturer? Well, purely theoretically, ventilation is better, more powerful? I remember reading that you have a gorgeous Bosch ...
Anchic, Anna, I would very much like two shallow and one deep drawers under the hob.

Under my induction hob, the pots do not heat up from the current, but from the fan

So, too, only large boxes ...
.Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, I did not find something. There is only about the size of the cuts in the table top ... Damn, the Germans are also called! They would have written, it is possible to place a box with spoons-forks under the tiles or not. So that I don't bother people here

And when in the net to sit, cook, walk with the dog, sew, read?

I don’t need to walk with the dog and I don’t sew - therefore mine, mine. my ...

Quote: lira3003 from Today at 06:09 PM
And when in the net to sit, cook, walk with the dog, sew, read?

I don’t need to walk with the dog and I don’t sew - therefore mine, mine. my ...

I say, heroine! : rose: I can't do that ...
I was still puzzled by my ... Go, he says choose the hood. So, for the second day on the trunk, I'm trying to catch something worthwhile

[lira3003]

lira3003, in the salon they know what is possible under induction and what is not. If the salon does not recommend it, then it is not worth it.

lira3003, in the salon they know what is possible under induction and what is not. If the salon does not recommend it, then it is not worth it

In the salon, the girls do not always know this, they must be forced to turn to production, to techies (they refused to make a roll-out table under induction, referring to the fact that it is warming up, we had to force them to write letters to their technical department, technical department - allowed) they had such a sample of furniture in the salon and I chose it for myself, but she refused to do that to me

[lira3003]

lira3003, here I opened the instructions for Siemens:

“Warning - There is a risk of breakage!
There is a cooling fan at the bottom of the hob. If there is a drawer under the hob, do not store small items or paper in it. They can be drawn the fan, which will lead to its breakdown or disruption of cooling.
There should be a distance of at least 2 cm between the contents of the box and the fan inlet. "

If the salon does not recommend it, then it is not worth it.

Eh, and so I wanted ...

and she refused to do this to me

It's strange, they either evaporate the unnecessary, then they don't give khachukh ...

They may be drawn in by the fan, causing it to break or not cooling.
There must be at least 2cm between the contents of the box and the fan inlet.

If we assume that I will consume this box, I want it for spoons and forks, there will still be more than 2cm left there! Tomorrow I will call Electrolux or service and ask there.
Although, I already want to divide this side into 2 parts, 900-300. Where 900 is two drawers, and 300 is a bottle holder. True, there will be no symmetry, since the top is just a hood. But I will have large roll-out boxes.

[lira3003]

lira3003, Rita, and two bottles of 15 cm do you want to make? True, only one bottle inside will fit in width, but there will be symmetry.

and two bottles of 15 cm do you want to make? True, only one bottle inside will fit in width, but the symmetry will be

Olya, it will look better, but in terms of convenience, I like 300 more ... My husband generally offered two for 200, and in the middle for 800 with swing facades ...

Rita, pull-out drawers are the most important thing in the kitchen: yahoo: it's better to give up something else than pull-out drawers. They make drawings for you in the salon, show the pictures, please.



Isn't it easier to make 2 boxes of 600 each? and the symmetry will be at once and the boxes are of the normal size? the bottle-holder is actually an expensive thing

pull-out drawers are the most important thing in the kitchen

Love you!!!

They make drawings for you in the salon, show the pictures, please.

I showed, but we never got to him. Busy. We must go today.

Isn't it easier to make 2 boxes of 600 each? and the symmetry will be at once and the boxes are of the normal size? the bottle-holder is actually an expensive thing

That's where the dog rummaged !!! Price. On two roll-out and on a bottle-holder it is almost equal.
And I can't divide by 600. I’ll have a cooking stove on top, in the middle of this surface. And there 1200. On the left is the edge, on the right is an abutment to the other side with a sink



I will not redraw, I will show how I want.
Transfer the LH to the refrigerator and raise it by 35 cm.
I will not mow the corner. But on the long side after the PMM, one by 600 with roll-out drawers and one by 600 with shelves. There are pipes. Boxes will not enter

Let's make a drawing in the salon, I'll show it more clearly

Rit, here's the special. returned to the other page to see the picture.You yourself write there what you can do 600 and 600 or 1200. Under the cooktop in the middle of the bottom there will be a seam (connecting two boxes of 600 each) and it will look great, why do you need a solid box by 1200 or divide it by 900 and 300, the seam also moves to the left or right, and if you do 600, then in the middle, everything will be beautiful.

Anyone have drawers this size, handy? Or it is better to divide by 600-600, 900-300. Here in this version, Furniture for the kitchen.

Rita, the depth of the boxes can be changed (that is, reduced), ask in the salon, and then the pipes are not a hindrance

Yes, Svetik, I understand you. Just if you divide by 600-600, then there will only be shelves? How to make roll-out there? Something I'm dull
How to install a brewhouse? She needs a place below ...
I will wait for my husband, can he clarify to me