Svetlana201
Girls, for the corners there are different carousels, magic corners, you can choose what is more convenient for the price and use this box.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Svetlana201, I have a magic corner in my corner now, and in the old kitchen there were just shelves. So now a lot less crockery fits in this corner. In the old one, although it was not convenient to get something distant, but the elephant could be shoved.
Svetlana201
Tatyana Gnezdilova, I agree that much less can be shoved into this corner, but convenience of use was important for me, it's like roll-out boxes or just shelves
lira3003
Quote: Kara
Of course not difficult.
Thank you! This is the order, envied !!! And the containers from Ikea?
All the same, I will ask again, is it possible to store food in the cabinet where the pipes run? they will make cuts in the same place, it will be hot, no ???
Quote: V-tina
and even my daughter opens it calmly, but she's not even two.
Little hostess !!!




Quote: Svetlana201
different carousels, magic corners,
Well, I don’t know, we saw it for the first time at the Expocentre, caught fire ... The price of 47,000 cooled the ardor. And this is 3 years ago. But I don’t need it. I will have a sink there, filters, potatoes and onions. Already at the place I want to attach funds for the PMM.
Kara
I have pipes running down the bottom, cereals that are on the bottom shelf are a little hot, but it seems nothing critical But I don't have a riser there, but a wiring to my sink, so the pipe is not constantly hot.
And the containers are ikeevskie, yeah
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: lira3003

All the same, I will ask again, is it possible to store food in the cabinet where the pipes run? they will make cuts in the same place, it will be hot, no ???

Soooo, Rita, you still haven't decided what will be stored in which cabinet ???
Ritulya, seriously, a cabinet heated by hot pipes is, of course, not suitable for storing bulk products. Heating promotes the breeding of bugs and moths in such products.
I suggest you put the most difficult things in a cabinet with shelves - a meat grinder, a harvester platform, a multicooker and a bread machine.

Rita, well, at least by hand draw on a piece of paper a plan of the room with all sizes and pipes, windows, doors, show us.
Why are we solving a problem in which there are only unknowns. From what to dance?
Loksa
Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, hehe, I peep from the bushes for this topic. We haven't changed the furniture yet, everything is old yet. And I always change places, while only cereals, seasonings and tea are intact. Apparently I don't know how to plan on a scale: girl_red: but I have no idea --- how to plan everything before hanging the furniture !!! Well, approximately you can: over or under the teapot tea leaves, but this is only approximate. I gave myself a year to find permanent places. But I'm not in a hurry.
And I have a very similar kitchen, and the same weak wall.
I agree that big boxes with good fittings are better.
V-tina
Quote: Svetlana201
for corners there are different carousels, magic corners, you can choose what is more convenient for the price and use this box.
Oh well, the toad will strangle me both for the price and for the disappearing place, I have dishes in one cupboard, in the far corners that is needed once a year, closer - for daily use. In the second, an electric dryer, a juicer and plastic bowls are all different, I don’t bother at all about expensive carousels that eat up space and money
lira3003
Quote: Kara
not a riser, but a wiring
Now it is clear, otherwise I was afraid I suddenly missed something and now the cereals are stored in a warm place
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Heating promotes the breeding of bugs and moths in such products.
That is why I asked again
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
draw by hand on a piece of paper a plan of the room with all sizes and pipes, windows, doors, show us.
Maybe later I will redraw, but for now, I quickly nakalyakat Furniture for kitchen
The facade is 600 under the sink, my husband is not small, but he needs to serve this unit




Quote: Loksa
I agree that big boxes with good fittings are better.

I worked in a store, we had drawers for 1000. And
That is, they are meter-long, and I know exactly how comfortable they are !!! For me, a chic size is straightforward ... And here it seems like I need to decide on a size of 1200, but my husband puts sticks in the wheels ... It will be hard to roll out, do 600-600 ..
Damn, why is it hard? The hardware is expensive Blum (hopefully the best and original), there is no cast-iron cookware ...
Kara
Pay attention, in my bottom drawer on the left there is a huge cast-iron cauldron
Belka13
I also regretted that I made myself a magic corner. Do not put heavy on it, so trifle such as an egg cooker and silicone molds. And so I would put a juicer and a meat grinder in the far corner, and close what I use more often.
Rita, I really like Bloom. And Hettich, in principle, too. In any case, there will be a guarantee, if the fittings are bad, it will make itself felt in a maximum of six months.
Twig
The only thing that confuses me is that the drawers run along the adjacent corner facade. And there is a door and a handle. In theory, they should make a 5 cm false panel in the corner. Now, not 120 cm, but 115.
The bloom fittings will work, I have had a normal flight for 10 years, I store flour and sugar in a drawer
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Loksa
I have no idea --- how to plan everything before hanging the furniture !!! Well, approximately you can: over or under the teapot tea leaves, but this is only approximate.

The tea leaves are nonsense. But the dishwasher should be placed correctly so that you can stand in front of the sink and load the dishwasher at the same time, and even think about how it would be convenient to unload clean dishes from it later.
A friend's husband went overboard, made a windowless room next to the kitchen, where there is a washing machine, a dryer, a steam station with an ironing board, a storage for vegetables, and racks for cans - cool? Aha! I just put the dishwasher there. Now it would be easier for her to wash the dishes in the kitchen sink than to carry all the dirty ones, and then drag all the clean ones.
No wonder the previous three pages keep returning to the width of the roll-out cabinets.
Oksanochka, you are not in dreams, but on paper or in a planner, think over your brand new kitchen, then everything will begin to unfold.
Above, Kara showed off her huge cutlery drawer. Kara this box is wide, and in addition to spoons and forks, there are also shovels and other culinary tackles. And I have cutlery in a 40 cm drawer next to the dishwasher and sink, all the spatulas, tongs, mittens and other tackle next to the hob and oven.
Therefore, Oksanochka, I urge you to figure out in advance who and where will live in the new kitchen- :)
lira3003
Quote: Belka13
magic corner. Do not put heavy on it, so trifle such as an egg cooker and silicone molds.
it's good that I don't want him. My husband immediately said there was a drain, filters, etc. ...
Quote: Twig
And there is a door and a handle. In theory, they should make a 5 cm false panel in the corner. Now, not 120 cm, but 115.
Blum fittings suzhit
Oh, I missed that. In the picture, the designer drew these 5 cm. But then I don’t know if there is at 1150. I have to ask. If not, then it is possible to 900, and round off the corner, or not?





Quote: Tanya-Fanya
But the dishwasher should be placed correctly so that you can stand in front of the sink and load the dishwasher at the same time, and even think about how it would be convenient to unload clean dishes from it later.
So, it seems, will it be convenient for me?
I will send the forks of the spoons after the PMM, so that they do not look for mine under the boil. Here, under cooking, there will be just scapula-rugs ...
Kara
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Kara this box is wide, and in addition to spoons and forks, there are also shovels and other culinary tackles. And I have cutlery in a 40 cm drawer next to the dishwasher and sink, all the spatulas, tongs, mittens and other tackle next to the hob and oven.
To the left of this box is PM, and to the right is the oven. To the left of the PM is the sink. I also turned up the oven, like this
Furniture for kitchen
It turned out to be very convenient, you do not have to bend over to put something in the oven, and in two cabinets under it there are all the trays, grates and baking dishes
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: lira3003


Furniture for kitchen

Rita, thanks for the plan.
1. You have reflected a piece of upholstered furniture. Where will the table be? And how big is it?
A thought came to me: would you like to extend the lower cabinets under the first window? You have, as it were, three windows in the picture: one in the center and one to the left, to the right of it along the window. Would that be under the left window?
2. There is no need to round anything, the protruding table top does not interfere at the entrance.
3. Oven. How we chose him! This is your favorite! You cook a lot of masterpieces in it! And where are you, sorry, locked him up or in general? On reclamation? On one side of the oven there is a refrigerator, and on the other side of the di-van here and count it up, you got out of the oven a large deep baking sheet with a goose or turkey and where are you going with it? He is hot! And you run in the opposite direction across the Kitchen, urgently put a hot and heavy baking sheet on the countertop ...
Or have you thought about this question?




Kara, your raised oven is my dream. I didn't manage to implement it - a very small working surface would have turned out, 60 cm - this is perceptible.
Bijou
Quote: Anna67
Dreams-dreams ... There was also such a black sink and emptiness around, only a lonely black kettle on the edge. And now there is a cousin in the corner, on the countertop and on the stove one thing and then another.
Yes, temporary to hell with it, you can remove it! At least sometimes.

But there on a permanent basis live a Boshevsky processor, Shteba, Kenwood who has a combine, a pair of paper holders with six protruding pans, Burner on the wall, knives on a magnet, and, the very last of the very necessary nonsense - an egg cooker.
You will not believe, there is nowhere to shove this little thing, so that it is convenient to use!




Quote: Twig
The only thing that confuses me is that the drawers run along the adjacent corner facade. And there is a door and a handle. In theory, they should make a 5 cm false panel in the corner. Now, not 120 cm, but 115.
Quote: lira3003
Oh, I missed that. In the figure, the designer drew these 5 cm.

Quote: Bijou
By the way, if handles are supposed to be on the furniture, then you need to take a few more centimeters from the corner in each direction. And already a little different centimeters are obtained. ((
And in the same place in my photo this angle is perfectly visible.))
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Where will the table be? And how big is it?
In front of the couch. 1600 * 800.
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
And where are you, sorry, locked him up or in general? On reclamation? On one side of the oven there is a refrigerator, and on the other side of the di-van here and count it up, you got out of the oven a large deep baking sheet with a goose or turkey and where are you going with it? He is hot!
LH will rise 35-40cm higher, almost like Irina's, under it is a draw-out drawer for 600. And I thought about the hot baking sheet on the table, transfer the food, and put the baking sheet into the sink.
Of course, it is inconvenient if someone is sitting at the table at this time. But this is my place. And I don't seem to interfere with myself
As for the lockers to the window, I could not show this wall protrusion in the picture.
Furniture for kitchen... There is nonsense, but not a closet. On this ledge there will be a TV bracket, and another curtain
Moreover, I would have done with blinds on the windows. And my husband wants curtains, it's so beautiful for him ... Well, okay, we'll pick up calm ones.
Olga VB
Girls, well, you are all in .opu!
I'm so hatI planned out the bottom of my new kitchen, and read the latest discussions and felt like a complete fool
Now again you need to dry your head, how to reschedule / move / dream

Does anyone have an oven in the corner? Is the wall next to her grunting violently?
And is it convenient to use such an oven if it is approached only from one side?

Quote: Kara

To the left of this box is PM, and to the right is the oven. To the left of the PM is the sink.
Irisha, is this location convenient? Shouldn't the toolboxes be closer to the sink?

Girls, but in general, where does anyone have dryers / storage space for dishes (plates, cups, spoons, forks, knives) in relation to the sink and PMM?
I planned the dryer on the lower floor, in a roll-out drawer between the sink and the PMM. And now I fell into a stupor
Here's another moment with the same baking trays / goosebumps from the oven.
Now I take them out and put them on top of the cooking stove (I still have a free-standing stove).And if the oven is at one end of the kitchen, and the cooker is at the other, then next to the oven you need to have some kind of surface that can withstand high temperatures or a bunch of coasters for hot, which does not very much add order and cleanliness.
Who bypasses these moments?
Loksa
lira3003, Rita, I like the curtains better too! And if you get tired of the situation, just change the curtains!
Tanya-Fanya, Tatyana, I am glad that buying furniture is not on the agenda! I already broke my whole brain with sockets and still managed to close up a couple - not in the subject! The slab had to be moved to the window-window like Rita's. But now I can't choose a one-sided curtain! I'll watch you, I've already decided = there are boxes below! And from above I wanted everything to the ceiling, and I thought of fixing it to the ceiling, but they are slowly killing my dream, they say there are no such fixtures = wall-ceiling ?! The husband said a little to step back from the top, you need to step back so much to put on the hinges of the wardrobes! I don't give a damn about the uppermost shelves, you can always put rare-used utensils there, I don't want open access there.




Olga VB, Olga, and what will the oven interfere with the wall? here is a stove, that is, a sizzling frying pan on the stove, yes, maybe I have a tile, but it's not critical!
Tanya-Fanya
Olga VB, it turns out we will plan your kitchen too
Olga VB
Quote: Tanya-Fanya

Olga VB, it turns out we will plan your kitchen too
Gyyy, and you thought to get away
I'm here in the bushes with binoculars and a bouzouka - you won't pass by!Furniture for kitchen
lira3003
Olga VB, Olga, so the theme came to life!
Quote: Olga VB
Now again you need to dry your head, how to reschedule / move / dream
Better now than after installing a new kitchen ...
Quote: Olga VB
Does anyone have an oven in the corner? Is the wall next to her grunting violently?
And why? This is not a brewhouse ...
Quote: Loksa
I like the curtains better too!
I agree, it's beautiful. Only you will have to wash more often. Therefore, I will not take blackout, they are very difficult. Or they should be taken, laying fewer folds.
Quote: Loksa
already decided = there are boxes below!
I decided this, even in the old apartment. At the bottom, just where the pipes will be a swing cabinet. For the sake of roll-out drawers, I conceded to my husband the choice of the color of the facades. And so I wanted white ...
Quote: Loksa
I don't give a damn about the topmost shelves, you can always put rare-used utensils there, I don't want open access there.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Olga VB
I planned the dryer on the lower floor, in a roll-out drawer between the sink and the PMM.
Are these special cabinets, which also have ventilation at the bottom, like the hinged ones?
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Olga VB from Today at 03:41 PM
I planned the dryer on the lower floor, in a roll-out drawer between the sink and the PMM.
Are these special cabinets, which also have ventilation at the bottom, like the hinged ones?
If I understood correctly, Olya wants to move the dryer from the upper to the lower drawers. Then there is almost everything the same, in the sense of a lattice with pallets. It would be so convenient for me if I wash the dishes with my hands, but from the PMM it seems not very





Damn ... They haven't finished building their own yet, already into someone else's climb Chumachechaya
Kara
Quote: Olga VB
Is the wall next to her grunting violently?
And is it convenient to use such an oven if it is approached only from one side?
So I have it right in the corner, next to the wall. Grunts, but not much. But ordinary wallpaper on this wall is not good, you need something that can be easily washed. And I very quickly got used to approaching from one side.
Quote: Olga VB
Shouldn't the toolboxes be closer to the sink?
What for? I take them out of the PM, and not from the sink, so this is the order of the cabinets, the sink (above it there is a dryer for plates and tea mugs in the cabinet), on the right is the PM, and to the right is a cabinet for cutlery. And above this cabinet in the hinged cabinet I just keep everything glass (mugs, glasses, glasses, etc.)
Quote: Olga VB
Now I take them out and put them on top of the cooking stove (I still have a free-standing stove). And if the oven is at one end of the kitchen, and the cooker is at the other, then next to the oven you need to have some kind of surface that can withstand high temperatures or a bunch of coasters for hot, which does not very much add order and cleanliness.
Here I have just such an option, a cooking stove with an oven at different ends of the kitchen.Bringing the baking sheet to the cooktop across the kitchen (5 steps, hee-hee) is nothing complicated, it's not to carry it to the next room. Well, if it's really something heavy, then next to the countertop is a stand for hot and there. Above the oven I have the same piece of stone countertop, and on top there is a microwave, and on it there is always a pair of silicone substrates for hot.
Now I'm thinking, taking into account 8 years of active use of the kitchen, I would change something if I planned furniture / appliances from scratch. And I came to the conclusion that I would have done exactly the same.
SvetaI
Quote: Loksa
And from above I wanted everything to the ceiling
Loksa, Oksana, I have such top cabinets - almost to the ceiling. There is a small gap between the ceiling and the top of the cabinets, but it is simply covered by a bar in the color of the case (white). I am VERY happy, the greasy dust at the top of the cabinets really got me. And there is much more space in such a locker.
If you cannot order slats, you can adapt something there, such as a wide skirting board, it will also look good.
Kara
Quote: Loksa
I don't give a damn about the topmost shelves, you can always put rare-used utensils there, I don't want open access there.
How I wanted just such an option! She was hysterical and stamped her feet. But in 6 (!) Showrooms that I walked around, they were adamant: this option is possible only if the ceiling is mounted after the furniture has been installed. And since the repair was completed by that time, I flew by with my dream.
lira3003
Since I won't have any cabinets above the hob, I want an extractor hood for 900. I like the inclined one very much. The husband does not approve yet. The theme with hoods is dead, so here I will ask .. Who has what? You need a very quiet, very good stretching rubbish, and not for the price of Boeing
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Loksa
I thought of fixing it to the ceiling, but they are slowly killing my dream, they say there are no such fixtures = wall-ceiling ?! The husband said ....
“From what, from what, from what?
These boys are made!
Of freckles
And crackers
From the rulers
From batteries ... "

These boys-husbands, they only want to kick our dreams
But how, then, are cabinets 60 cm deep and about 40 cm high, and below cabinets 30 cm deep, are attached to the ceiling itself?
Very beautiful! For example, there are columns on the sides of the wall, in one refrigerator, and in the other an oven. These columns are connected at the top by these 60 cm deep lockers. The letter P. was formed.
lira3003
Quote: Kara
She was hysterical and stamped her feet.
I also dreamed about such, and I was broken off. I have a height of 900, in total. And another 200mm to the ceiling
Bijou
Quote: lira3003
I also dreamed about such, and I was broken off. I have a height of 900, in total. And another 200mm to the ceiling
When everything is done and settled down, you will strain your needlework-husband. Let him order the same facades for cutting and spandorize the boxes with doors to the very top. Since you can't get there without a stool anyway, you can easily agree to horizontal doors, but so that these additional shelves coincide in length with the drawers under them. Even boxes without a bottom can be made, only with walls where the gas lifts will attach.

Only 200 mm minus 16 is quite a trifle. ((But something flat can be stored, of course. Or reduce the height of the main ones in advance for such an idea.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
When everything is done and settled down, you will strain your needlework-husband.
Eh, the whole trouble is that he broke it off ... It's not a problem for him to make these stages ... he doesn't like the look. Too high, says the top will not look from the bottom ... EstEt, damn it !! Attacks, I already found out, they said about one and a half thousand will be more expensive, but my husband stubbornly ... I still try to slowly




But he does not mind putting additional boxes in the basement. On wheels that. Yesterday I found it myself by accident, about 2500. Only screw the plinth
Loksa
SvetaI, Svetlana,: friends: I'm still laying the paper and changing it, used to be like thick oilcloths, but washing them is still a "job". She laid the paper down.
Kara, Irina, our ceiling is ready, but it is normal, not stretch. I didn't want to, considering that they did it themselves, it turned out very decently, my husband stuck a polyurethane socket, everyone is happy.And we also have gas, and to wash the stretch ceiling, it
And at the expense of lockers they say now "not fashionable, no one does that", but I still want and hope to do it. Ceiling plinth, yes, I thought about it.




lira3003, Rita, a good, powerful hood costs money, but a quiet one, I don't even know, I have never met such. The hood must be taken per sq. meters of area.
Kara
I also have no stretch ceiling. But provided that it has already been lowered by a "step", another 20 centimeters to the top of the boxes
Loksa
Kara, Irina, oh yes, this is familiar to me! it was just like that for my mother-in-law, and even a gas pipe all over the wall above! The top 2 lockers were difficult to hang! Here the gas riser in the corner is more or less bearable, but the corner cabinets have to be redone!
And with the curtains, I also changed my mind a little, I wanted from the middle of the window to the window sill such with embroidery, tulle on top without patterns, on the side a curtain, it is necessary to cover the heating and the TV mount with it. the side curtain remained and a light tulle, but the cutwork did not hang up: girl_pardon: it turned out I like the view from the window!
Olga VB
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Are these special cabinets, which also have ventilation at the bottom, like the hinged ones?
They are special, but there is additional removable perforation at the bottom, which can be removed and washed.
And ventilation is already enough, because the boxes are not airtight.

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Quote: lira3003
And why? This is not a brewhouse ...
When we open the oven, steam comes out there. Yes, and during cooking, steam goes, but I get only a narrow strip of 30-50mm between the wall and the oven

Another question.
What is the distance between the upper and lower cabinets for whom is more convenient (with an electric welding)?
I have 51 now, but the MV does not fully open, although it does not interfere with taking out the cup. But the kitchen machine with the upper attachments does not fit there at all, or it must be moved back and forth.
At the same time, if the upper shelves are raised higher, then with my height 161 cm (on skates and wearing a hat), I will have to jump to them.

Incidentally, about an additional row of lockers under the ceiling. I did it for myself - the useful storage area has greatly increased.
Somewhere I posted a photo here.
I took ready-made ones at IKEA, so their height is not up to the roof, but what it was, but I would have done it right under the ceiling: with the tire mounting method, almost no additional gap at the top is needed.
Niarma
Olga VB, Olga, and what is the height of the lower cabinets?
Olga VB
Here, I found my photo.
Even with such small additional top cabinets, I was able to remove a hundred and so many of them from the bottom, which is rarely used ...
Furniture for kitchen
It can be seen that there is still a lot of room at the top. But only 40 cm high did they fit, and 60 did not pass anymore, tk. there behind them a pipe under the ceiling passes.

Quote: Niarma

Olga VB, Olga, and what is the height of the lower cabinets?
Which lower ones? The bottom-bottom or the top-bottom?
Niarma
those who are on the floor
lira3003
Olga VB, Olga, is the hood hanging so high? Does it stretch well?
Olga VB
Quote: Niarma

those who are on the floor
Those that are now, 86 cm to the top of the countertop. And I want to make the new ones at least 97 cm, that is, I really want to make them higher.
Quote: lira3003

Olga VB, Olga, is the hood hanging so high? Does it stretch well?
The hood is not the most powerful, but it pulls pretty well.
It is now at an altitude of 92 from the brewhouse, which means it is not so high.
And, to be honest, we almost never use it, because we rarely fry, and when we cook something, there is no special need for it.
Bijou
Quote: Olga VB
I want new ones at least 97 cm, i.e. really make it higher.
How many??
Almost a meter ?? You said that growth is not from basketball.) I got almost 90 and I definitely do not need higher. Mine is 164.
A cutting board adds height for a brush with a knife, a meat grinder is too high with its loading tray, and other technique is convenient because it is closer to the eyes, but does not ask for another 10 cm to be added at all. Are you really sure? Have you tried to work at such a height for a long time?

In, I remembered! I have a tabletop higher in the yard. Recently I work there and suddenly I catch myself thinking "and for what husband did I order just such a height, high? !!" Then I realized that there were no tiles under my feet yet. And its height is embedded in the tabletop.))
Niarma
is 97 not a lot for your height? Working on the table, of course, is convenient (I have 94cm to the top of the tabletop, but my height is 167), but the stove and other appliances will be at the same level ...
Loksa
I have a table, we put it on wheels and it has grown significantly, its height to the top of the tabletop is now 95 cm.I have 164, I weigh everything on it, mix, collect and decorate the cakes, it is quite convenient. But for a long time to chop and rub the hand gets tired!
Olga VB
Girls, I do almost all the preparatory work on the table, and he is 75 cm, i.e. actually below 97 cm), and it's convenient for me.
It will also be convenient to operate the equipment on worktops with a height of 95-97, except for the kitchen machine. ITS would be 75 cm best, but not put on the dining table.
The brewhouse is also normal at 95-97. And the sink is generally wonderful.
Here all these numbers do not fit together in any way.
I get 3 working surfaces, but don't make them all of different heights! Or do?
Are there any lifting mechanisms to shove the CM into the drawer, and not to take it out of there every time, but to raise it to the desired height with some lever, work, lower it and push it back in?
Or tilt the tabletop, - raise it so that some kind of inside with the CM rises up with it
Bijou
Quote: Olga VB
And the car wash is generally wonderful.
In-in, just during the washing of the dishes, I thought this.
Quote: Bijou
I catch myself thinking, "And what is the height I ordered for my husband, high? !!"





I mean, somehow you have to hold your arms high, your elbows stick out, and your mobility decreases. And in general, hands, as for me, get more tired of being raised. Maybe it’s just for me, because for me the most unfortunate people are really cashiers in hypermarkets. Forced to keep their hands in front of them all the time.
Creamy
Bijou, Lena, and cashiers are not just unhappy that they have to keep their hands in front of them all the time. What is brought to the store by trucks, the seller, per shift, throws these trucks one by one into the baskets of buyers. I am especially amazed at the attitude of some networks to the health of their sellers. In my next house so in the store 7Ya. They are forbidden to sit at the cash register, they cannot have a chair at all! Stand on your feet the whole shift! This is guaranteed leg edema, arthritis and arthrosis.
Bijou
Quote: Creamy
the seller for a shift throws all these trucks one by one into the baskets of buyers.
Well yes! Hanging in front of you! And I meant it.

I only once, as a student, worked at a remotely similar job, when I had to shake wet sheets in my hands for 12 hours in a row, and I still remember that hell with a shudder.


zhita
Quote: Olga VB
And there are some lifting mechanisms
Olga, look, can this be?

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