Svetlana201
Under my oven (look at the photo) there are roll-out units for 600 (oven 600). All the bottom I have a roll-out
lira3003
Quote: Svetlana201
the depth of the boxes can be changed (i.e. reduced), ask in the salon, and then the pipes are not a hindrance
I asked if it could be reduced. But mine doesn't like that the boxes will be smaller ...
I saw. You have a very cheerful kitchen!
My husband and I did not agree on color. I wanted white, it is under the cut of a tree. I lost ... But now I am winning back every box! Yes, it's expensive, but I'm used to the color, but I'm not used to the inconvenience.
Svetlana201
Quote: lira3003
How to install a brewhouse? She needs a place below ...
I will wait for my husband, can he clarify to me
In my house (at the dacha) the GAS hob is standing and under it the drawers stand quietly, there are no problems at all. Have you seen the exhibition options in the salon? under all the cooking drawers there, what's the problem? Now I'll try to find a picture and show you. Gas is worse than an electric stove (I'm generally afraid of it)




Quote: lira3003
I asked if it could be reduced. But mine doesn't like that the boxes will be smaller ...
Don't tell him about it
lira3003
Quote: Svetlana201
Don't tell him about it
: lol: made me laugh! He is a techie, he sees everything without a picture. And I need to wear a bamazhke !!!
Now the designer called, today he is busy. They have an emergency. From tomorrow, prices will increase by 5-10%. And yet, drawers under cooking can be rolled out 600-600. Hooray. True, I am left without a bottle holder
Svetlana201
Quote: lira3003
And yet, drawers under cooking can be rolled out 600-600. Hooray. True, I am left without a bottle-holder
Hurrah Hurrah . The bottle-holder is not worth the money that is asked for, it is actually just a forced thing, when the boxes cannot be distributed in any other way, bottle-holders are inserted.
For you, the price was fixed without an increase?
Wit
The drawer can be divided by a partition, reducing its height by one third and the hob will be installed without any problems.
As for the induction, the waves from below will not reach the piece of iron. My tile will not turn on if you do not put an iron pan on it. And it turns off if the pan is raised a couple of centimeters. Or maybe millimeters. It will be far from forks and spoons.
lira3003
Quote: Svetlana201
For you, the price was fixed without an increase?
No, we haven't signed a contract. Today you have to manage to pay. Let's go in the evening
Wit, Vitaly, so, it turns out a box with spoons-forks is possible under induction?
Svetlana201
Rita, did you choose the hob? My instructions say - If there is a drawer under the hob, do not store flammable objects or aerosol cans in it. Read your instructions and everything will be fine, if anything, then I have a NEFF T44T40N0.
Bijou
Quote: Stafa
I have a door height of 45 cm on gas lifts, a door length of 90 cm - very convenient. I, after the apartment suite with hinged doors, said that there were either no upper cabinets, or only rising up. And I have only one tier at the top cabinets and only 2 cabinets, for small things and the second for drying. And the simplest gas lifts.
Sistra !!! * cuddly hug * I don't understand at all how people with swing doors live! True, I have a smaller length, but it is so selected that everything you need is in the lower level. When I cook / serve, often all the bottom three are open and every time I do not pull the doors, everything is at hand and in plain sight, I use it as needed. At the end of the clap-clap-clap, everything slammed and order.
Quote: lira3003
That is, you can store forks-spoons under the induction? Why I ask, I wanted to divide the bottom into 3 boxes in the salon, but both the husband and the designer immediately said "nizzyaya !!!"
Hmm ... In fact, all spoons, forks, knives are heated in a magnetic field. ((True, this field quickly fades away with distance. But it will still be slightly warm.And then whoever will take it apart, they have warmed up from the field (and pulled away the electricity) or simply from the hot air blown out by the fan. It can be very warm downstairs under induction, especially in summer.

But the third drawer as a whole looks more elegant than the two, and you can stuff a lot of completely non-magnetic junk into it.
Quote: lira3003
And yet, drawers under cooking can be rolled out 600-600. Hooray.
Full end of lunch (s).
Niarma
Quote: Svetlana201
In my house (in the country) the GAS hob is standing and under it the boxes are quietly standing, there are no problems at all.
at my house too
Bijou
Quote: Niarma
at my house too
Gas cooking also emits electromagnetic waves ??
Twig
Two boxes of 60 are not the best solution. I would not give a damn about symmetry and put the roll-out 90-100 cm and the bottle-holder at 20-30 cm. And I would not put the bottle-holder, but would simply make a narrow cabinet on hinges (I have it in the country) it is convenient to store baking trays there, but the same bottles, you can make a pull-out piece for a towel, later, from Ikea or Leroy, because salons want a lot of money for such gadgets.
And you can make this narrow door in a different color, to match the upper sections (or do you have the top and bottom of the same shade?)
Bijou
By the way, if handles are supposed to be on the furniture, then you need to subtract a few more centimeters from the corner in each direction. And already a little different centimeters are obtained. ((

I remember how my eyes bulged when the measurer suggested putting the metaboxes on for the rest of the length. Like, I've never seen such big ones, well ... I don’t knowyuu ... But this nice uncle firmly said that I will thank him again. And for sure, for ten years now I say thanks almost every day.

Found an old photo. Oh, what beauty was without this superfluous technique on the surfaces.

Furniture for kitchen
lira3003
Quote: Svetlana201
did you choose the hob?
I bought it yesterday! Electrolux EHI9654HFK.
Quote: Bijou
In fact, all spoons, forks, knives are heated in a magnetic field.
I'll show you a sketch now





Quote: Twig
I would not give a damn about symmetry and put the roll-out 90-100 cm and the bottle-holder 20-30 cm.
I agree, but my husband is closer to 600-600. Color top-bottom one.
Quote: Bijou
Oh, what beauty was without this superfluous technique on the surfaces.
Gorgeous !!!
and the size of the bottom? Are they symmetrical with the upper ones or not?





Here, without facades. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/109425/15258791512041071955064.jpg
And they wanted a little wrong, but like this
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/109425/1525879390667697237161~0.jpg.
But there is no dryer for 700
Bijou
Quote: lira3003
and the size of the lower ones? Are they symmetrical with the upper ones or not?
Finally do not intersect in any way. There, to the left, is a pencil case with a large solo washer, an oven and a cabinet behind the glass. After it, you can see a 60 cm dishwasher door, a 45 cm sink, and everything else except for a small bottle holder - a metabox for .. how much did I say there? 105 cm or 107? I don't remember, but there is no time to measure.))

The upper 75 cm wide three sections (they are separate from each other).
Svetlana201
Rita, did you get a picture in color? Let the color version be made for 600 and 1200 and 900 + 300, see how the kitchen will look and choose. After all, you are then in this kitchen for many many years, it should make you happy every day. It is better to postpone the approval of the sketch for a couple of days (think again, choose the best option, sleep with him and her husband) than then be dissatisfied with something in the kitchen, because it will be problematic to change something. The top and bottom should somehow look harmoniously, and this depends on the size of the boxes.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
Finally do not intersect in any way.
And the kitchen looks good, apparently the horizontal view of the upper cabinets smoothes
Quote: Svetlana201
After all, then you will be in this kitchen for many many years, it should make you happy DAILY
I agree, I've been waiting for her for so long !!! I'm already starting to love




The designer called, you can order an upper cabinet for 70, but we will buy the dryer ourselves, and cheaper than theirs. ... I ordered the departure of the measurer, will call within three days.





Quote: Bijou
105 cm or 107? I don’t remember, but there’s no time to measure.))
No need to measure, this is already superfluous ... Just a purely rhetorical question, if these boxes were then made for 1200, would it be convenient? Would the bottom drawer not be heavy? Or is 900-1000 the best option? I'm trying to figure out whether to insist on such long ones or leave 600
Chamomile
lira3003, if done at 300, then it is better boxes, not a bottle. I had boxes, now a bottle-holder, boxes are more functional. A bottle holder if you do that already.
lira3003
Chamomile, Olga, Wow!!! I never expected that a regular shelf would be more convenient to use.
Chamomile
lira3003, I wrote about boxes, not shelves, and only about the size of 300 mm. That is, for this size the drawers were more functional to me than now the bottle-holder.
lira3003
Quote: Chamomile
, I wrote about boxes, not shelves
But it came ...
Kara
Quote: lira3003
And they wanted a little wrong, but like this
All was silent, silent, but I will tell! Under the hob, make roll-out drawers for the full width, you will not regret it. Here's mine for 120 cm, on top, as you can see, an electric cooktop (not induction).
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/59566/20180509_233311~3.jpg
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/59566/20180509_233405.jpg
A lot of things can be placed in these two boxes, and quite heavy. At one time, I also very much doubted, but the manager in the salon managed to convince me, for which I have been sincerely grateful to him for 8 years!

PS: now, modeling a new kitchen, I would make all the lower drawers roll-out, it is much more convenient than the usual ones that open with shelves. But the top ones that open upwards, I don't like at all. I have one, I keep a box of medicines and sewing accessories there. This is the most inconvenient cabinet in my entire kitchen.
Wit
We have the same way. Only in the middle is the partition.
Kara
Vit, the partition takes at least 10 cm.And for us, restless, this is a lot of space
Wit
Exactly. From 600 mm 10 mm bye-bye. But somehow it is not noticeable, but there is more order. Well, this is my opinion and, of course, I do not impose it on anyone.




Quote: Kara
10 cm

Are you sure? Exactly CM?
Kara
Quote: Wit
From 600 mm 10 mm bye-bye.
Nah, 10 mm is 1 cm, and the partition, in fact, takes not 1 cm, but 10, i.e. 100 mm.
Wit
Quote: Kara
i.e. 100 mm.
Yes, you shooo ?!
Kara
Quote: Wit
Are you sure? Exactly CM?
Well, okay, I slightly exaggerated, not 10 cm, but 6 cm, but still not 1! I can take a picture. But, here we are not even talking about 1-6 cm, but about additional fittings. Which also costs money, and good fittings are not insignificant.

Wit
I'll go to sleep better. If only such a partition did not dream!
Kara
I was not too lazy to take a picture, Vit, so that God forbid, you do not have nightmares.

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/59566/20180509_235919.jpg
Wit
Gyyy, we have a partition INSIDE the drawer. And divides it in half. The width of the chipboard is 16 mm.
Bijou
Kara, maybe he meant that a full-fledged drawer was divided into two by a board like an organizer?
For example, you can put in your box across the box .. yes at least a piece of cardboard. And try to put the same amount of dishes back.

* for the rest, we can recommend training the imagination - mentally expand the same dishes, if it is not one box, but two, but twice already.))
Kara
And the wooden rack, to which the draw-out mechanism is attached, went into space (and the same on the other side, if there are two of them)? Well, okay, I won't argue with you. The person for whom the post was intended, I think, will see everything himself and draw conclusions.




Quote: Bijou
For example, you can put it across your box ... but at least a piece of cardboard
I can, not a question. Only fasten the fasteners to the cardboard if these are two different cabinets?
Len, I finally have no purpose to convince someone of something. She just showed me how it was with me, and that's it. I have no desire to argue with "authorities" in measuring matters
Bijou
Kara, Well, okay.

For myself, I can say that as soon as I switched from a wide refrigerator to a standard one, I caught myself thinking that we began to eat less ... watermelons. Just because the space is narrow and you can't put a saucepan next to the watermelon.
Kara
As I understand you From the moment of buying a freezer chest, I stopped thinking in the market that a leg of lamb is a lot
Wit
Quote: Bijou
not one box, but two, but twice already.
The partition is not in the width of the box, but in depth. It means not already. Turning on the imagination.

Quote: Kara
I finally have no purpose to convince someone of something.
And it is right!
Kara
Quote: Wit
The partition is not in the width of the box, but in depth. It means not already. Turning on the imagination.
No imagination can help me imagine the depth of the drawer (the distance from the center of the kitchen to the wall) width (in fact, an important constant in furniture planning) Thank God I taught geometry at school
Wit
Quote: Bijou
Just because the space is narrow and you can't put a saucepan next to the watermelon.
And this refrigerator was already as much as 16 mm.?





Quote: Kara
No amount of imagination can help me imagine the depth of the drawer (the distance from the center of the kitchen to the wall) by the width (in fact, an important constant in furniture planning)
Hard case...
Kara
Quote: Wit
Hard case...
And the truth
Bijou
Quote: Wit
And this refrigerator was already 16 mm.?
Why 16 mm? 200.
WitYou are confusing warm with soft. It fits into wide spaces no longer because there are more square centimeters. But because the space is more fully used, without empty edges and corners.
Of course, if these are solid (and especially round!) Objects, and not rags. With them, rather the opposite.))
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: Bijou
It fits into wide spaces no longer because there are more square centimeters. But because the space is more fully used, without empty edges and corners.

+1
Kara
By the way, I still have three drawers in stock, but already 90 cm. And they are also very good.
At the top, all the cutlery and pribluda.

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/59566/20180510_004221.jpg
At the bottom - all my Kenwood and not only

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/gallery/albums/userpics/59566/20180510_004258.jpg

In general, roll-out wide drawers rule!
Bijou
Karawhat is your order !! And when you only have time ... I really bow down, honestly.
Anna67
Quote: Bijou
Found an old photo.
Dreams-dreams ... There was also such a black sink and emptiness around, only a lonely black teapot on the edge. And now there is a cousin in the corner, on the countertop and on the stove one thing and then another. Only two pots with cypress and lemon seed leaves are not annoying - they even delight.

Eh, it’s not clean where they clean up, but where they don’t litter. But this is not about me - just put everything on the shelves as it is again anywhere.
Kara
Anh, I once thought that 4.5 running meters of my countertop would be pristine from everything (+2 meters on the attached balcony). But I did my dirty deed I tried to the maximum, 2 running meters remained intact, everything else is busy and pleases my eye, not annoying. This despite the fact that my name is a hell of a perfectionist
Quote: Anna67
Eh, it’s not clean where they clean up, but where they don’t litter.
My constant phrase: "It seems that a company of soldiers lives in our house!"
lira3003
Quote: Kara
All was silent, silent, but I will tell! Under the hob, make roll-out drawers for the full width, you will not regret it. Here's mine for 120 cm, on top, as you can see, an electric cooktop (not induction).
Ira, she said so! I'm sitting here waiting for everyone to speak up. So please don't be silent! I tried to prove to my husband in the evening that it is more convenient to put dishes in such a dish than in a small one. He says it's hard to roll out ... I roll out - do not lift!
Quote: Kara
I would make all the lower drawers roll-out
I try so hard, only one will remain with the shelves, there are pipes behind. You can, of course, reduce the depth, but not rationally. Expensive, and the area will be greatly reduced.
Quote: Wit
but there is more order.
If he is not, then he does not care. The order in which box to be or not to be. I have a frame 18mm thick.




Quote: Tanya-Fanya
+1
+1
Quote: Bijou
Kara, what's your order !! And when you only have time ... I really bow down, honestly.
+1
Quote: Anna67
Eh, it’s not clean where they clean up, but where they don’t litter.
Yeah, especially if no one cleans up, but how to litter all the assistants here !!!
Quote: Kara
that 4.5 running meters of my countertop will be pristine from everything (+2 meters on the attached balcony).
This is the size ... you will download! I'm more modest
Kara
Ritul, here I have the only non-rollable box, and there is because behind it there are pipes There are two shelves, on them containers with all sorts of bulk products. If interested, I'll take a picture. Oh, no, I'm lying. There is also a corner. But here, in principle, no options. And yes, it is also sooooo roomy (how much rubbish gets in there) In general, fight for everything to roll out as much as possible, and do not save on roll-out mechanisms. Believe me, this is an expensive but very long-term investment. I have something to compare with. I saved some money and ordered expensive German fittings for three cabinets, and cheap fittings for the other two.The last one had to be changed after 3 years, but on the top drawer (the very one I hated) I still haven't changed it (we rarely use it), I hold the door with my head And the German ones have been serving faithfully for the 9th year
lira3003

Very interesting .. if not difficult
Quote: Kara
There are two shelves, on them containers with all sorts of bulk products. If interested, I'll take a picture
Can bulk products be stored near the battery? I keep it in the closet, in the hallway.

Quote: Kara
fight to ensure that everything rolls out as much as possible, and do not save on roll-out mechanisms.
I will try, since the difference between ordinary fittings and Blum, you can feel the hattich.

It is difficult for my husband to digest the price tags for accessories in the salons. He collects furniture himself a little, knows where and how much you can buy the same, but almost 30-40-50% cheaper. I already told him that a salon cannot buy it somewhere and deliver it to you for the same price! It seems to have calmed down ... He was just tired both physically and mentally, he does not want to collect it himself. Otherwise, this kitchen would have cost us much cheaper.






Quote: Kara
The last one had to be changed after 3 years, but on the top drawer (the very one I hated) I still haven't changed it (we rarely use it), I hold the door with my head
Urgently change the fittings, and start loving this box too
Kara
Quote: lira3003
Very interesting .. if not difficult
Of course not difficult. Here
Furniture for kitchen
Furniture for kitchen
I specially showed it with and without a container for flour, so that it was clear that they were there in two rows in depth
V-tina
Quote: lira3003
it is more convenient to fold dishes in such a way than in a small one. He says it's hard to roll out ...
Ha, I have in my roll-out, on 600, however, there is so much that it is simply unrealistic to lift them, and even my daughter opens it calmly, but she still does not have two. In the cabinet, divided into 2 drawers, all stocks of cereals, flour, pasta, etc. are stored. In the lower one - closed packs, in the upper one - containers with cereals for every day. In another cabinet there are three draw-out drawers, like Ira's, in the upper one there are also spoons and forks, in the lower one there is a combine, in the middle there are all sorts of small things for baking. Everything is very convenient, the rest of the lower cabinets are hinged, because two of them are corner, the third is under the sink, otherwise it was impossible to do

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