Olga VB
zhita, tanya, thanks, yes, something like that.
We need to crawl the sites, look for this topic
Loksa
Olga VB, Olga, do you want to have space? I like my table of heights because you can roll it, roll it up, roll it back. I also want a couple of bar stools for myself, so that I sometimes sit behind it and in general it will be super!
On a high table it is convenient to watch how the mixer whips. And on it there are also shelves made of metal grates2 pieces, I put baking trays there, it's convenient for me. By the way, my counter is old, the same height, it's also convenient. But the countertop, on the contrary, I want lower, standard
Irgata
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Longina
Irsha, Irina, did not understand ... Is this a link? Or information for thought?
Anchic
Longina, Elena, this is a link to another topic by quote.
Longina
Anchic, Anna, I want to clarify - I found it correctly:
Anchic
Longina, Elena, yes, as I understood Irina.
lira3003
Last year we ordered a tabletop for our dining table over the Internet. It was necessary to divide the 3-meter canvas into 180 and 120, slightly round the corners and trim.
All in all business ... aha! The grief master considered that it would not be so beautiful for us and did it his own way. I cut the canvas, did not even close one side, and rounded the other as for a bar counter
Now that we are puzzled by the kitchen, we decided to order the countertop as well as the worktop. But, in the salons we were either refused or the price tag of 12,000, 23,000 rubles. at a size of 800 * 1600.
Well, I don’t know, for me a chipboard with a coating on 4 legs, which I also need to buy, it’s very expensive ...
In short, I suggested to my husband to find a workshop where they would saw off this stupid radius, make normal 4 roundings and close them. Yesterday we paid 1500r for this work (300r for each radius and 300r for the edge on both sides). And they bought the legs, in the same place. True, there are no bolts or screws in the kit ... but these are trifles.
In the future, I plan to sew curtains and, at the same time, a tablecloth for the guest. And so change the oilcloth and a new look. Or in general, nothing to lay then it is more convenient to cut on the table

Wit
Salons ... I was offered to pay 120 thousand just for a line along one wall and were immediately sent far and for a long time. Like Rita, I found a workshop where, according to my sketches, they made a U-shaped kitchen in less than 70 sput. Satisfied.
tati-ana
Wit,
Share the coordinates of where this workshop is, I am also concerned about furniture in the kitchen
Wit
This is an LLC, it makes furniture and is not very bad, of any complexity.
Are you from St. Petersburg?
tati-ana
Yes, from St. Petersburg. If it is impossible on the forum, then write in a personal, I will be grateful.
Wit
I will do so.
Yarik
Wit, Vitaly, and they only deal with kitchens? If not, then it is possible for me in a personal coordinates.
Wit
Not only. They do everything. Somewhere the link to the site disappeared. I sent a request to the director. When he answers, I'll let you know in a personal.
lira3003
Hello everyone!!!
Yesterday they finished painting the kitchen .. that seems to have decided everything, but I came home and again I see jambs. The most important thing is that the cabinet under the LH needed at least 1200 in height, and they drew me 1100. Under the LH I will add one more small drawer to the high drawer. A little later I'll post a photo of the project.
I have another question now; who has some kind of dish drying. In the sense of the manufacturer-material, and which pallet is better? Plastic or stainless steel?
We ordered a drying cabinet for 700, but they do not have a dryer of this size. Therefore, we will buy a two-level
Bijou
Quote: lira3003
We ordered a drying cabinet for 700, but they do not have a dryer of this size. Therefore, we will buy a two-level
I mean, the dishwasher is not planned ???
Kara
We have a two-level dryer for dishes with a full-fledged PM in the cabinet above the sink 80 cm.To a greater extent, of course, it plays the role of a storage cabinet, but there are dishes that I wash only with my hands and put right there. Well, even if everything was washed in the PM, I would never refuse this cabinet, because storing tableware in it is as convenient as possible!
Olya2017
Quote: tati-ana
Vit,
Share the coordinates of where this workshop is, I am also concerned about furniture in the kitchen
And me, please. I'll see, also in a couple of months I will buy a kitchen.
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
I mean, the dishwasher is not planned ???
Lena, don't worry, there is already a PMM for 600
I'm talking about an overhead cabinet with a dryer.
Quote: Kara
With a full-fledged PM, we have a two-level drying for dishes in the cupboard above the 80 cm sink. To a greater extent, it certainly plays the role of a storage cupboard, but there are dishes that I wash only with my hands and put right there.
Irina, and I still wash something with my hands all the time. Hopefully 700 will be enough for us.
But still, once again I will ask the dryer with which pallet is it better to buy?
I only had plastic, I wonder if metal is better or not?
Bijou
Quote: Kara
To a greater extent, it certainly plays the role of a storage cabinet
Cut me at least, but for me this is a complete analogy to the fact that laundry is stored on the ropes on the balcony.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: lira3003

I only had plastic, I wonder if metal is better or not?

With plastic, it is much cheaper.
But metal is probably easier to wash? Although, my plastic is fine. We have bad water and it dries up strongly on plastic, but it is washed off.
Well done, well done, Rituyla! The case is moving!
Kara
Rita, we have metal. I wash it once a week, often in PM
Bijou
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
But metal is probably easier to wash? Although, my plastic is fine. We have bad water and it dries up strongly on plastic, but it is washed off.
Here you can doubt this direction. Metal, probably, you won't wash it off with every means, then it will corrode, then the color will change. And with plastic in terms of chemistry, it is somehow simpler in my opinion. The last time, I just brilliantly washed the plastic off the calcium with the Toilet Duck. Much, much more effective than citric acid! I just dripped it and rubbed it with a brush. Immediately such a violent reaction flooded !! After 5-10 minutes, washed off.

But when, out of joy, I decided to wash the stainless kettle in the same way in a spray of dried water, after a long exposure the stainless steel just turned black ((In the old dryer, the tray was aluminum and it was always scary. Well, except for the first day of operation, of course.))
Although, again ... I have a tiny dryer and in plain sight on the railing, but if it is in the closet, then it makes no difference how it looks there, probably?
lira3003
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
plastic is much cheaper.
Tanyusha, found these dryers in a store with furniture fittings. The difference is 500 rubles.

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there is a choice.
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
The case is moving!
Ttt, I'm going to go make the last changes on Monday. And I hope that's it!
Quote: Kara
Rita, we have metal. I wash it once a week, often in PM
eh, did not think of it. My plastic with my hands ...
Lena, then do not take a steam bath and save 500 rubles ??
Bijou
Quote: lira3003
eh, did not think of it. My plastic with my hands ...
It depends on what to wash. If from dirt, then the dishwasher will wash, if from calcium deposits, then no.

But you definitely don't need to wash the plastic in the dishwasher. Or wash at the mildest temperature. For as soon as he bends a little, deformation after washing is ensured. And even changed the color from my old one. ((

By the way, how does a 70-80 cm long pallet fit in a 55-wide dishwasher?
lira3003
Quote: Bijou
But you definitely don't need to wash the plastic in the dishwasher. Or wash at the mildest temperature. For as soon as he bends a little, deformation after washing is ensured.
Oh, exactly. I have plastic bowls that become oval after PMM
And I already put the pallet in the PMM ... well I did not turn it on
Sasha55
Quote: lira3003
But still, once again I will ask the dryer with which pallet is it better to buy?
We have already said about the material of the pallet, but pay attention to the shape of the part for the plates. Now everyone is doing something even, plates fall from them like dominoes. Terribly infuriating.I have Ikeevskaya, plates without "ears" do not hold at all. And at the dacha they converted from an old Soviet headset, so there is an excellent dryer, like the letter V, so any plates do not fall on it. Go to choose, take a plate with you.
Twig
Hmm. I remove dry plates from the rmm plates into the cabinet, the pallet does not get dirty.
When I wash the dishes by hand, I put the plates in the adjacent small sink. They drain there and then again nothing drips into the pallet.
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lira3003, Rita, where do you order the kitchen? A couple of pages flashed by "stylish kitchens" - and they do not have a drying cabinet for the size of the cabinet ??? I did three kitchens with them, the drying was for any cabinet, cut off and very high quality.
lira3003
Quote: Sasha55
Now everyone is doing something even, plates fall from them like dominoes. Terribly infuriating.
Sasha, accidentally not like that

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I also found the shape strange
Quote: Twig
When I wash the dishes by hand, I put the plates in the adjacent small sink.
VetaI wanted a sink with 2 bowls. But husband, as always spokes vs! He says we now have a PMM! We decided that we would buy with a wing.
Quote: Twig
where do you order the kitchen?
We stopped at Stylish. My husband liked the facade like wood, light warm color. Aykonik beech. I only fought for the boxes until victorious
After 600 they have 800, and so I would not bother either. And then mine wants to buy the simplest
Belka13
lira3003, Rita, so the second bowl is not only for dishes. I soak vegetables there, and put herbs, berries, fruits in a collander or colander, and defrost the meat. Moreover, the difference in price is not very big.
SvetaI
Quote: lira3003
who has some kind of dish drying
I don't know, maybe now this is already common, but when we were planning our kitchen 13 years ago, I was persuaded to do an unusual dish drainer. I agreed and I'm very happy about it, it turned out to be convenient.
In general, the system is like this. Below is a pallet (stainless steel). Right above the pallet, there is a flat shelf with wide slots. I put upturned cups, small bowls on it, put cutlery. And on top is a standard plate dryer.
I am short and it is uncomfortable for me to reach up with wet cups. And here all the cups are below. The pallet is not visible at all, I wash it once a year, purely out of love for art. There is plenty of room above the plates, so you can put an inverted large bowl or kneader bowl right on top of the plates.
If I wrote it incomprehensibly, but you are interested, I can take a picture at home in the evening.
Twig
Quote: lira3003
Veta, I wanted a sink with 2 bowls. But my husband, as always, is in the wheel against! He says we now have a PMM! We decided that we would buy with a wing.
For me, let it be without a wing, but with two bowls (large and small, in my country house without a wing)
In a small bowl, the dishes are dried, the washed fruits and vegetables flow around, you can defrost the meat. What are you? It's super convenient! I have a tap with drinking water above the small bowl.
By the way, I don't use Kolander at all. In leaving, everything is simple - I wiped it with a sponge and detergent and rinsed it, always. And most importantly, a clean pallet under the dryer.




Quote: lira3003
After 600 they have 800
It is strange, earlier they did drying at least 73.5 cm. The wire structure itself was cut to the desired width. And the quality was superb, I saved money at the dacha, bought a dryer in Leroy Merlin in one of the cabinets, the difference is visible to the naked eye.
SvetaI
And I like the wing better
Quote: Twig
In a small bowl, the dishes are dried, washed vegetables and fruits flow around, you can defrost the meat.
I do all this on the wing. And on the wing, you can cut meat and fish, even without a board, depending on what material the sink is from. It is inconvenient to do this in a bowl.
dopleta
I will support the point of view about a sink with two bowls. Even better, of course, with the wing too, but if the space does not allow ... And in general I read and am surprised at your disputes with your husband! The kitchen is primarily designed for whose convenience? What - will he cook there? So let him not argue, but listen to your opinion! When I designed my kitchen, mine obeyed unquestioningly!
Twig
SvetaI, ideally you need both a wing and a second bowl!
SvetaI
Quote: Twig
ideally you need both a wing and a second bowl!
Where to live?
Twig
Quote: SvetaI

Where to live?
Eh :)) I have a staff on my wing, so I cut the fish in the sink bowl.
lira3003
Quote: SvetaI
Below is a pallet (stainless steel). Just above the pallet, there is a flat shelf with wide slots.
Sveta, accidentally not like that

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Quote: Twig
In a small bowl, the dishes are dried, the washed fruits and vegetables flow around, you can defrost the meat. What are you? This is super convenient! I have a tap with drinking water above the small bowl.
Aaaaa, I want it too conveniently!!!
Quote: Twig
It is strange, earlier they did drying at least 73.5 cm.
and they radishes canceled the discount system, now a certificate for the next order
Quote: dopleta
And in general I read and am surprised at your disputes with your husband!
Larissa, I will explain why so.

My husband and I met 7-8 years ago. Both were already divorced. He always planned everything himself in his house. The women who appeared in his life did not suit his life. And they were just coming and going ... Even the former, with whom he lived for 4-5 years ... in his youth. And so all his adult life, he decided everything himself. And then I drew, you will not erase!



Here is a sketch of the kitchen Furniture for kitchen and a separate cabinet with LH, will stand after the refrigerator. Top of the microwave Furniture for kitchen... But, I will add a small drawer under the LH
SvetaI
Quote: lira3003
Sveta, accidentally not like that
Yes she!
Wiki
Oh Gods! For the dryer, almost 5 thousand?

About trimming. The dryer itself - yes, you can cut it (we made 350 out of 400), the problem will be in the pallet.
There are certainly cheap dryers for 700, but there, again, the dryer itself is 700, and the pallet goes to 600.
SvetaI
Quote: Wiki
Oh Gods! For the dryer, almost 5 thousand?
Well, first of all, this link is a huge dryer - a whole meter! Surely there are smaller ones in both size and price.
And secondly - after all, the kitchen is something that you use every day for many years. And if something is inconvenient, all these years you will be irritated and regret that you could not, did not think it over, regretted the money. Or in the end you will change for a more convenient one, that is, you will pay twice.
But I, in fact, do not campaign for such drying. It's just that this design turned out to be very convenient for me personally and I recommended considering this option.
lira3003
Quote: SvetaI
Yes she!
Fine! I'll try to find my size. Thank you dear!
Quote: Wiki
About trimming. The dryer itself - yes, you can cut it (we made 350 out of 400), the problem will be in the pallet.
I do not want to do trimming. Why? Below is a cabinet without a bottom, the rail will also hold the strength of the structure.
And now about the sink. See where she will be? Accordingly, if taken with a wing or with a second bowl, then this part will be to the left. That is, will it be convenient to use it?
Sasha55
Quote: lira3003
I also found the shape strange
Yes, that is. Terribly uncomfortable for me. I only wash the dishes with my hands, the plates are very inconvenient to put sideways. Maybe it was invented to put in a pile after the PMM. And also below the mugs are glasses, above the plate. This location is convenient. The quality of the coating seems to be quite good. Already 4 years, nothing peels off, washes well. Drain my chemistry like a mole or a sanox.
lira3003
I haven't boasted to you yet .. There will be a box for 1200 under cooking




Sasha55, Sasha, rather, it was invented by an idiot who decided to save on material
Sasha55
Quote: lira3003
Sveta, accidentally not like that

But this form is very convenient. How else to check the quality of stainless steel.




Quote: lira3003
Sasha55, Sasha, rather it was invented by an idiot who decided to save on material
Yes, what kind of savings is there. There is even more material. Rather, this person has never washed dishes with his hands. That's where my eyes were when we bought, that's the question.
Kara
Quote: lira3003
See where she will be? Accordingly, if taken with a wing or with a second bowl, then this part will be to the left. That is, will it be convenient to use it?
Rita, don't hesitate! You rarely wash in it (if it is a small bowl) that you will. And for everything else that the girls have listed, this cup is irreplaceable. I don't put the dishes in it, but defrost, washed vegetables in a colander, drain pasta again into the same colander (which itself holds there) - it's all there
Wiki
Quote: SvetaI

It's just that this design turned out to be very convenient for me, and I recommended considering this option.

I do not argue, just the price surprised.
And the design is exactly the same for less expensive dryers.
lira3003
Quote: Kara
And for everything else that the girls have listed, this cup is irreplaceable.
Kara, Irina, and I have almost chosen a sink. Rather, I thought so I would go first to choose and fight off enemy husband
SvetaI
Wiki, Thanks for the link. I am now in the process of choosing a kitchen for a summer residence, I do not want to go there very expensive, we do not spend much time there. Already tuned in to a conventional dryer - cups on top. And these are great for the price and my favorite design!

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