lira3003
Quote: Sasha55
That's where my eyes were when we bought, that's the question.
Do not Cry! In the hardware store, you can separately buy only the necessary part of the drying. According to the link that I gave. If my sclerosis does not change me





Quote: SvetaI
And these are great for the price and my favorite design!
Svetik, and the pallet seems to be more full of holes, no? I also ran to ozone, but I'm afraid the forks and spoons will fall through and cling. Please look, you should see the difference. Otherwise I will order one too




And yet, please tell me you have a box with a dryer without a bottom?
SvetaI
Yes, the Chinese from Ozone has a more leaky tray. And in general, it looks more flimsy. But it will suit me for giving. And in the apartment can you look for something more reliable?
lira3003
SvetaI, Svetlana, I understood you. I saw this live, told my husband that to me. I thought if you approve I’ll go and see it again.

It's good that I don't have a summer residence, only a plot. There is neither the strength nor the time for it ... But there is drying for it.

Wiki
At first, I had a lower dryer, then when the kitchen was moved to the summer kitchen, it did not fit a little, and was redone, so the dryer was moved to the upper cabinet for 350! - holds 18 plates, there is also a shelf on top, there are all small things in the basket, and from the bottom into the gap, where there should be a pallet and which we did not put - I put a separate board for bread so that some comrades do not grab it and do not try to cut meat on it I did not put the tray, because the dishes from the dishwasher are absolutely dry.
Furniture for kitchen
It generally costs 200 rubles. And there are also 100 rubles, in the previous kitchen it was, I do not know how many years it stood - and was thrown away along with the kitchen. I left only the pallet, I put the dumplings there.
Glasses, though I have them separately on the railing
Furniture for kitchen

* Why am I writing everything about the summer kitchen - we live there now. The kitchen moved there from the house with some changes. And at home, repairs are underway and everything will be new.
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
It generally costs 200 rubles. And there are also 100 rubles,
how tempting.
Quote: Wiki
I did not put the tray, because the dishes from the dishwasher are absolutely dry.
Where are the hand-washed dishes? put another drying?
Quote: Wiki
Glasses, though I have them separately on the railing
Girls, in the old apartment I dreamed so much of hanging the roof rails under the entire kitchen ... and now it's burned out. I will try to do without it so that there is no temptation to hang out everything that is possible. Well, or at a minimum ... I hope I don't have problems with storage space. In addition to the kitchen that you all help me plan for what Thanks a lot, everyone, I have a large wardrobe in my hallway, which my husband put together with his own hands.
photo a little later, now the frames for the tensioning are installed there
Wit
lira3003, and with the LH set next to the refrigerator You are not overly excited? The refrigerator will grumble.
lira3003
Quote: Wit
lira3003, and install it next to the refrigerator with the LH. Did you get excited? The refrigerator will grumble.
Wit, Vitaly, so it seems like you can, I'm not the first ... Boxes made of chipboard 18. The refrigerator is freestanding, it will not adjoin right close. at DSH, the cooling fan blows forward. I barely begged this option from my husband, did I really try in vain ???
Loksa
Wit, Vitaly, can I also link to the kitchens? : girl_red: thanks!
Wiki
Quote: lira3003

Where are the hand-washed dishes? put another drying?

I've been wiping all my life. I don't like it when it leaks into the pallet. Or as a last resort, if on a quick, in the morning, for example, I washed it, laid it out on the table on a towel and ran off to work. I come in the evening, and the dishes are dry.
Well, this is who is used to it, of course.
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
spread out on the table on a towel
I, too, or so or for drying. I do not like to dry dishes
I won't have a bottom in my dryer cabinet. Now I think, can I say what to do with the bottom? After the PMM, the dishes are almost dry, I will put the washed by hand on the wing-second bowl-towel. I need to send the kitchen to production on Monday, then it won't be redone
dopleta
Quote: Wiki
I don't like it when it leaks into the pallet. Or as a last resort, if on a quick, in the morning, for example, I washed it, laid it on the table on a towel
And what is the difference - flows down into the pallet or onto a towel? The amount of drained water is the same.
SvetaI
Quote: lira3003
I won't have a bottom in my dryer cabinet.
I, too, have no bottom. The bottom is a drying tray. Something still happens to drip past the tray into the sink. And with the bottom - it will spoil the bottom.
I also have a dishwasher now, but I have to wash some items by hand. I dump them on the bottom shelf before drying or wiping. I do not like it when something unnecessary is hanging on the sink wing or on the table, even if it is clean dishes.
lira3003
Quote: SvetaI
I, too, have no bottom. The bottom is a drying tray.
It's just that the drying that we discussed goes without a frame. That is, it is suitable for a box with a bottom. Or I do not understand something.
There will be time, look, maybe there is some kind of support rail under yours?
SvetaI
I’ll come home and take a picture.
Wiki
Quote: dopleta

And what is the difference - flows down into the pallet or onto a towel?

Towel directly into the washing machine. And the pallet must be pulled out and washed with handles. It was still not very easy to get it out of my lower dryer. It was necessary to tilt at a certain angle, while part of the water poured onto the floor, if it did not dry completely. The box was without a bottom. And our water, in my opinion, is never completely transparent in my life, so what drips into the pan also became yellow spots when it dries
I had to not just rinse, but first wipe it with whiteness, then rinse with water, wipe or dry it again and return it to its place. My pallet was white plastic.

I found a photo Furniture for kitchen
Notice I had it at 700, and which I showed earlier - at 350. At the same time, only glasses were added to the lower by 700, and the same number of plates - 18. It is not functional in size.
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
It is not functional in size.
I won't want this.
SvetaI
lira3003, Rita, look
Here, it turns out, is how it was done:
Furniture for kitchen
The cabinet itself is without a bottom, but on the bottom there is a frame
Here's a closer look at the top:
Furniture for kitchen
Here's the bottom, sorry, I don't wash it every day
Furniture for kitchen
The width of the entire cabinet is 80 cm, the width of the pallet is 70 cm, the width of the entire drying, including the protruding pieces, is 76 cm
lira3003
Quote: SvetaI
The cabinet itself is without a bottom, but along the bottom there is a frame
Sveta the frame is not from this drying? This is not included in the kit. If mine approves of this drying, then I need to tell the designer to strengthen the bottom of the box.
Thanks for the photo and measurements
SvetaI
Yes, the frame is part of the locker
Wiki
SvetaIwhat does one of my plates do in your dryer?
Wit
And myyayah! Second from the right !!! And we are looking, and we are looking
Wiki
My first on the right
Wit
Smari, stand separately! They are waiting for us, apparently
SvetaI
Well, nothing can be hidden from you
lira3003
Okay, your plates, so I will buy such a dryer and I will also present
lira3003
We installed stretch ceilings yesterday in the kitchen, bathroom and hallway: girl_dance :. I was as happy as a child.

Especially considering that we lived without them for almost a year and a half. Very good guys, we are satisfied with the work and the price.


I measured the height of the ceilings from the countertop, 170 cm.
56 height to the upper cabinets, 114 remains. I sit thinking what to do - order the upper cabinets 110 cm or leave 100?
In general, my husband is already tired of arguing with me. He offered to order 70cm, and "then I'll put the cabinets upstairs myself" .... Yeah, we know, we swam ... I don't like it "later" ... I looked in Ikea, there it is not much cheaper, the depth is almost 10cm more ..
But, on the other hand, all the same, the main part will be ready. And I don't really need the upper cabinets, so just now there was no temptation to force them with something, then wash them ...
Alim
Quote: lira3003
56 height to the upper cabinets, 114 remains. I sit thinking what to do - order the upper cabinets 110 cm or leave 100?
crawling out of the bushes I would leave 100 to wipe the dust without problems so that the hand can pass freely. Yes, you can do something very notwrap the necessary in a bag and put it up, against the wall, out of sight.
Twig
lira3003, the upper cabinets are hung taking into account that there should be a technological gap of at least 5 cm
The depth of the upper cabinets can also be increased, the standard for stylish kitchens is 30 cm, but any of your wishes for your money (how much in monetary terms, I don’t know)
SvetaI
Quote: lira3003
56 height to the upper cabinets, 114 remains. I sit thinking what to do - order the upper cabinets 110 cm or leave 100?
lira3003, Rita, a very good opportunity to make cabinets for the ceiling. Four centimeters is enough to hang them without any problems. In extreme cases, they will be hung a centimeter lower, there will be a height from the table top to the cabinets - 55 - standard. On the gap between the ceiling and the cabinet, you order a strip in the color of the furniture body or better white, and you will never have to wipe the dust there and there will be no temptation to put something there, stuff it and then wash it. And there will be more space in the closet, sometimes 10 centimeters matters.
It looks normal, there is no feeling of excessive workload, the white bar above the cabinet visually raises the ceiling.
Chardonnay
Quote: Alim
to dust off
Why wipe it when you can make it NOT wipe it?





Quote: SvetaI
a very good case to make cabinets for the ceiling. Four centimeters is enough to hang them without any problems. In extreme cases, they will be hung a centimeter lower, there will be a height from the countertop to the cabinets - 55 - standard. For the gap between the ceiling and the cabinet, you order a strip in the color of the furniture body or better white
Here's a good solution.
Alim
Quote: Chardonnay
Why wipe it when you can make it NOT wipe it?
I looked at my crooked ceiling And with a stretch, of course it's better SvetaI, Svetlana, said
Wiki
And immediately a stepladder in order to get something from the upper shelves. When they write about something unnecessary, which can be put on the very top, I immediately have a question: why should I keep something unnecessary at all? Well, I understand in the closets upstairs or in the mezzanine they remove winter clothes and shoes, warm blankets for the whole season. But in the kitchen? No, well, there are some rarely used things and I have, for example, all sorts of accessories for cakes, a noodle cutter, a meat grinder - but this is exactly one shelf. I either use the rest, or - goodbye. Even getting a meat grinder annoys me: put a chair, climb in. With her in hand, getting off the chair still has to be contrived, well, if my husband is near, then I give him, and I get off myself. We must think of another place for her. I even liked it better when she stood in the wall in my living room - she went and took it.
All this is my personal opinion and in no way is it a criticism of other people's habits.
SvetaI
I have cans with blanks on the top shelves. I have no closets and storage rooms, the balcony is not insulated, so three-liter jars with compotes and juices occupy the upper floor. If you have not prepared anything, empty cans live there, do not throw it away. ... Still rarely used varieties of flour were sent there in the same three-liter cans.
This I mean that there would be a place, and what to put - there. Especially if this place is closed with doors, and not in plain sight.
V-tina
Quote: Wiki
I immediately have a question: why keep something unnecessary at all?
at the very top, where I can't get it from an ordinary chair: packs of coffee and tea, bought for the occasion (type of stock 2 for the price of 1), guest dishes, rarely used glasses, cake molds, attachments for a combine and a juicer, which are needed once every six months, in the same place - everything that needs to be hidden until some date (such as gifts for the DR) .. in general, I still miss these shelves sometimes, I really regret that I did not listen to my husband and did not do it right up to the ceiling
lira3003
Wow, now I will answer everyone

Quote: Alim
you can wrap something very unnecessary in a bag and put it up against the wall, out of sight.
perhaps, but with my memory, I will forget what is in the bag and where I put it, only if the stash from my husband
Quote: Twig
technological gap of at least 5 cm
I remember the designer said, at least 3. But about the depth, when I asked again, I said only 30cm Is it necessary to make them deeper? They will be mounted on a 15cm wall ... And the boxes themselves are made of 18dsp, is there a risk of falling?

Quote: SvetaI
For the gap between the ceiling and the cabinet, you order a strip in the color of the furniture body or better white
You also need to think about whether it will look with our facades
Quote: Chardonnay
Here's a good solution.
So far, yes, successful. Sister has it, but her whole kitchen is classic.
Quote: Wiki
why keep something unnecessary at all?
Well, how without the unnecessary? Yesterday I wanted it, today I bought it, I tried it, but tomorrow I don’t want to ... I don’t want to throw out my hand ... But getting out of distant, high places also kills ...
Quote: SvetaI
This I mean that there would be a place, and what to put - there. Especially if this place is closed with doors, and not in plain sight.
My banks live in the closet, but there is still something to occupy the shelves




Quote: V-tina
packs of coffee and tea, bought for the occasion (type of stock 2 for the price of 1), guest dishes, rarely used glasses, cake molds,
Exactly, this time I bought tea, 3kg. I put the green one in the freezer, the coffee there too. But the black one did not know where to stick. The packages are large, the tea is not in packs, large leaf ... I even regretted taking a lot.
Quote: V-tina
I am very sorry that I did not listen to my husband and did not do it right up to the ceiling
Here is my husband, looking forward




Yesterday my husband said, it doesn't matter to me what and where you will store it. But so that all plates, cups, mugs are easily accessible !!! And he proposed to make two drying dishes for dishes, so that the tableware was placed vertically. Now I have shallow dishes in deep ones, and it infuriates him. Damn it, I don’t even have so many dishes, I’ll have to buy it
Wiki
I have guest dishes in a mini-wall in the living room, and in boxes. In the kitchen, although behind closed doors, sooner or later, it is still covered with a fatty film, so you need to pull out and wash everything, both the dishes and the cabinet itself.
I buy groceries only in a pack so that I can immediately pour it into a container. Shops are within walking distance, so I hardly but overcame the Soviet habit of keeping stocks. Flour is also a maximum of 5 kilograms - this is before Easter, and more often I buy two kilos. I also pour it into the container immediately. Coffee, tea, chocolate, nuts, lemon, some spices, etc. are in stock, but I don't put them up.
We were very surprised about 3-liter cans with blanks - what kind of fasteners are needed to withstand such a weight?
Not so long ago, one girl on another forum wrote that her whole kitchen collapsed.

It would have pissed me off too if I had to remove a stack of small plates each time and only then get a deep one. So I fully support your husband
Anna67
It doesn't piss me off - I pull out the lower ones without removing anything and, if necessary, put them in the same way. But the most used is always in the dryer, not in the buffet. There, a pan, a drushlag, a sieve for washing cereals and even a rather large carousel dryer constantly live in the dryer. On the shelf for cups in general, everything except cups since two sockets from a German service fell from there. For example, ladles, shoulder blades live there, and plastic containers dry.
Wiki
I read in parallel the topic Trivia and this one. In Little things: what else to buy, in this one: cabinets up to the ceiling (or it would be better through the ceiling to the neighbors), so that all this can somehow be placed
Olya2017
Quote: Wiki
I read in parallel the topic Trivia and this one. In Little things: what else to buy, in this one: cabinets up to the ceiling (or it would be better through the ceiling to the neighbors), so that all this can somehow be placed
Here I am also. And the kitchen will be only 2.20 (straight). Don't even know how to fit everything?
Wiki
Do not go to the topic Trivia and similar topics and everything will fit
In my early-early childhood, my parents had ONE cabinet table (drawer and two doors, inside a shelf) and one wall cabinet, also with one shelf. I will note that there were 8 people in the family.
Sometimes another two or three of my mother's nephews lived and guests from their parental homelands came in 2-3 families at a time.
Yarik
Yes, there are a lot of lockers, but there is still no place))) I asked my husband to make a rack on the balcony for baking dishes, I really had nowhere to put them, it became so convenient
Furniture for kitchen

And in the closet under the sink a mini-rack for pans
Furniture for kitchen

I put the trash bin on the balcony))) it's in our kitchen, well, I felt sorry for such a huge cabinet for garbage to use.
Alim
Quote: Wiki
In my early to early childhood
And in mine: drinks_milk: But a blender, a food processor, a multicooker ... and so on, and so on ... this makes kitchen life easier
lira3003
Quote: Wiki
her whole kitchen collapsed.
Horror!!! After all, someone could have suffered ...
Quote: Wiki
crockery in a mini-wall in the living room
Eh, we don't have a living room. We decided to give the room to our grown-up sons. So the kitchen plays the role of the living room.
Quote: Wiki
Shops are within walking distance, so I hardly but overcame the Soviet habit of keeping stocks.
there are also shops in our village, only the prices are higher, it is not at all interesting to me. Therefore, I do not make global stocks, but at the minimum of everything, it is still recruited.
Quote: Wiki
I read in parallel the topic Trivia and this one. In Little things: what else to buy, in this one: cabinets up to the ceiling (or it would be better through the ceiling to the neighbors), so that all this can somehow be placed
if only the neighbors below didn't think of me, with their wardrobes ...
Quote: Wiki
Do not go to the topic Trivia and similar topics and everything will fit
Exactly, and even better to sell-donate everything that is not used today or tomorrow !!!





Quote: Yarik
make a rack for baking dishes
assassin to Abstain! So many forms !!! Show a rack with them if you can! I'll show my husband, let him know that I live without molds at all
Quote: Yarik
in the closet under the sink mini-rack for pans
Very original! But, I can't beg for such a rack with my pair of pans ... And there is no balcony in the kitchen, so I'll leave the trash under the sink
Yarik
lira3003, Rita, something like that
Furniture for kitchen
lira3003
Yarik, Yaroslavna, Thank you! The main thing is that everything is neat and accessible. All the same, you need to have low shelves, or figure out how to store such things.
I'll show you the wardrobe that my husband has assembled, or rather half. The second is the same size, but without the two lower shelves
Furniture for kitchen, I can't take a picture at full height, that's the only way ...

Furniture for kitchen

I also miss low shelves.
V-tina
Quote: lira3003
Here is my husband, looking forward
yes, but I still didn't listen
Yarik
lira3003, Rita, cool wardrobe! He collected it from scratch, that is, did he saw and cut everything himself?
lira3003
Yarik, Yaroslavna, I took off the dimensions of the wall, then I calculated everything. We ordered it from a firm, where they applied and sawed us an edge according to his calculations. And at home he collected it with his son and son-in-law. The closet is big, I couldn't keep it.
Quote: Yarik
sawed-cut?
no, we do not have such machines.
Although, this is a small wardrobe of two. The second one is larger, by three sections. But the shelves have not yet been put there. A little later
Yarik
lira3003, Rita, we also need a new, large and non-standard wardrobe, so we break our heads, try it out or order it ourselves, I'm afraid it will cost like an airplane wing.
Olga VB
In my uppermost shelves under the ceiling: rarely used baking dishes, rarely used harvester attachments, large tablecloths, tools for seasonal workpieces, plastic disposable containers of all sizes, other rarely used kitchens. bells and whistles, stocks of tea (homemade, - fireweed and country), other personally dried (small quantities for daily use at the bottom, strategic stocks at the top).
And I would not refuse an additional 10 centimeters.
To be honest, I don't really see the point in empty spaces above kitchen cabinets - in hygienic, artistic, and "decent", and in all others.

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