Custom-made furniture

Dear forum users, I rummaged through a bunch of sites, phoned a bunch of so-called furniture manufacturers. And unfortunately, I haven't found the right one yet. Perhaps some of the townsfolk have in mind a man / s (and maybe a woman, anything can happen) who skillfully, efficiently and inexpensively make custom-made furniture. And the order will be impressive: cabinets, tables, cabinets, etc. EXCEPT THE KITCHEN! And if there are also photos of successful projects, then in general I will be extremely, extremely happy! Yes, please help, share your experience, I will trust only forum users without hesitation!
Dear moderators, if I am suddenly an inattentive horsefly, and such a topic already exists, poke me into it please

[Kara]

Kara, you must set yourself a feasible task. Skillfully, efficiently and inexpensively. The last three words are mutually exclusive. A master who skillfully makes high-quality furniture, adequately evaluates his work and will not work for inexpensive work. The hack will take it inexpensively. I assume that you have no experience in ordering furniture, and it is difficult for you to make a "readable drawing" with which you would go around furniture firms to calculate the cost of the order and tell the estimated production time.

I used to teach drawing, so I always made drawings and working sketches myself. I carefully study the materials and fittings from which I am going to make furniture. So, my observations-firms are very different, like the people who created them. I needed to redo the drawer for the bed. The drawing was already ready, all sizes and radii of mates were applied on it - it could be immediately sent to the workshop. I would put the tsarga on the bed myself with four confirmations. I began to go to furniture firms with a ready-made working drawing (only one detail like a paddle).

In the first firm, the interfacing on the drawing of the designer was thrown into a stupor, all the other employees of the firm tried to explain to her "what is this". Then, coming to her senses, the designer gave out "We are not doing anything for less than 5000 rubles! This is the director's order. Well, if only he will meet you halfway and can lower the price a little" I naturally left this company. I came to another. There they told me that they would do whatever I want.

I show an uncomplicated drawing of one detail and tell them that I will install the drawer on the bed myself. They smile sweetly at me and say that they have such a wonderful company that they will install everything for me themselves, and to see how (?!) need to be installed, they need to look on the spot, and how lucky you are, the manager is free right now, and maybe visit you. I’m like a fool, I thought there are caring companies that put them for free. The master came, looked at the bed with a smart look, said they will cheat and call. They called and said the amount was 4 times higher than the first company.

Then I realized why they visit apartments, so that according to the situation in the apartment, it will be determined how much you can rip off this goat. The story ended well - I myself went to the workshop and the foreman on the spot, according to my drawing, calculated the material consumption and processing costs. It turned out 340 rubles and nobody wanted to inspect my apartment. The next day I took the tsarga and installed it myself. Draw the conclusion from this fable yourself.

[Kara]

Kara, you need to set yourself a feasible task. Skillfully, efficiently and inexpensively. The last three words are mutually exclusive. A master who skillfully makes high-quality furniture, adequately evaluates his work and will not work for inexpensive work. The hack will take it inexpensively. I assume that you have no experience in ordering furniture, and it is difficult for you to make a "readable drawing" with which you would go around furniture firms to calculate the cost of the order and tell the estimated production time.

Creamy, forgive me generously, but in Moscow 5,000 rubles is never money at all, speaking of furniture We are talking about completely different amounts. "Inexpensive" in my case does not mean for nothing, but 5000 rubles is for nothing. And for 340 rubles, you can only buy a pillow for a chair, and that is not the best one. I have experience in ordering furniture (the kitchen and the nursery are pleasing to the eye). And I shouldn't make a readable drawing, because my vocation is in another I am a client. I have to explain to the master what I want and choose a color. The rest is his job. And so that there are no questions that are "inexpensive" for me, I will explain: I, for example, think that 70 thousand rubles for a cabinet measuring 60 by 108 cm (inside only a bar and two shelves, one at the bottom for shoes, the second at the top for hats) - it's expensive!

[Kara]

Kara, so in my post between the lines there was already some advice for you. If you have a really simple product like a wardrobe, try going to the workshops where they do sawing and edging, negotiate with someone from the workers, make milling for the hinges, and after work they will assemble the wardrobe for you in the evening. And about 5000 rubles, that's money. Nobody throws you five thousand bills so easily, but you earn them. Little money needs to be respected. Many furniture makers do not have their own production. They come to the customers, make measurements, agree on the project, order ready-made facades, order the body of the product in the sawing shop. A hired assembler, and sometimes the individual entrepreneur himself, assembles the product in your home. All. But the price. already, of course. above. Something like that.

The point is not only in wood, but also accessories are needed, and the facades are good. And I want to order not only a wardrobe. It will be cheaper for me for sure if the master orders everything, and not I myself climb on the Internet and workshops, because sometimes I work 10-12 hours a day. And the point is that I also respect small money, and therefore I want to find an intelligent master who will draw a readable drawing, and pick up normal fittings, and will be able to assemble everything qualitatively.

How is the topic discussed here. I am also now in the very epicenter of ordering furniture, so to speak.
I drew what I want, reshoot the photo from the Internet as it should look. The measurer came and measured everything. And now I constantly read the nuances - what to make of what and what consequences can be and everything is at the crossroads ...
My mother had to look for a folding mini-sofa for a long time, the material who would do it, stood in a certain not wide corner of the room. When, it seems, they found it, everyone was satisfied and finally the handsome sofa arrived home - everyone was delighted. But after the lapse of time, the sofa had to be moved, and it entered the doorway of the room only disassembled. Taking apart the sofa, it turned out that it was inside !!! even unprocessed boards, with bark, raw, which are constantly "led". And the trail of the company is gone ... Fortunately, the mother's sons-in-law had their brains and hands altered.

Right now I'm on the verge of ordering a kitchen, and I'm grazing on the topic there, but I haven't decided for myself what is better. Can you share links to furniture makers' sites or knowledge here?

[Crypana]

Crypana, this ungrateful occupation is to give advice, even more, it is punishable and punishmentemo. And yet I will allow myself to give one piece of advice - do not trust the designer to the end, he most often does not care what you will make furniture out of. Its profit is the greater, the cheaper the consumables in the total cost of the order. You and only you should know from which facades and what accessories your kitchen should be. And for this you need to work hard, find out the physical, technical and operational properties of the ordered materials. As F. Bacon said, "The correct formulation of the question testifies to some familiarity with the subject." Crypana... I will answer your questions. if they will. in a personal.

[Crypana]

Crypana, not everything is as gloomy as the previous speaker described. Now there are a lot of companies producing kitchens. Kitchen making is a very popular trend. I disagree with Creamy, now kitchen manufacturers allow the customer to independently choose all the components for the project. Ie.you can order the same kitchen according to the drawing from MDF, solid wood, solid wood with film, veneered MDF and a bunch of other materials. The same with fittings, any whim for your money, as they say. And you don't need to be a drawing teacher for this. No offense will be said. Two years ago I ordered a large kitchen from the Kitchen Announcement firm (moderators, do not consider it an advertisement). The only caveat, I ordered the stone countertop separately from another company in order to save the budget. So, over time, I can say, I did not lose!
And giving and receiving advice is a very good help, that's what all forums have been created for!

[Crypana]

Crypana now kitchen manufacturers allow the customer to independently choose all the components for the project. That is, you can order the same kitchen according to a drawing from MDF, solid wood, solid wood with foil, veneered MDF and a bunch of other materials. The same with fittings, any whim for your money, as they say.

So the fact of the matter is that there are many offers, but where to find that golden mean? The furniture maker offered to announce the amount, and he would make furniture for it ... I immediately said that I was not guided by the price (well, although I know how much I have). I can wait with the corner sideboard. In my case, it should be non-standard, separating the kitchen area from the living room. If the whole thing rests against the facades - it is also not a problem to order later. I have an "island" planned with a small bar counter. Again, you can order later. With the countertop, I can do the same as many do - they order a temporary one, then change it to a stone one or the like. All this I voiced to my furniture master. The main thing is to become attached to the project. Even if I will assemble my kitchen for several months. So I should know what to pay attention to.

Creamy, thanks. I am always glad to listen to advice and to listen to suggestions, I am never ashamed to study, I even really love this business. I love our site very much for the opportunity to expand my horizons.

In addition to my ordeals, I called in another furniture maker. For comparison, so to speak. I myself sit and take notes as soon as I read something about my question, search, hear. But, with regards to furniture, it's better to see a specialist. This is in my opinion.

[Grypana,]

Grypana, look here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1366.860 A lot has already been said about the kitchen.

I came to the conclusion that only I can solve this problem better than me After all, no one knows better than me what I need

Absolutely correct approach! When I ordered furniture for an apartment, I had a difficult task to order furniture in the corridor. 10 running meters of various cabinets, dressers, nightstands and open hangers and shelves. I went around more than one office, drew with designers, and only on the fifth attempt I finally managed to draw something that almost completely suited me. I want to say that all my trips were not in vain. Gradually, I myself had an understanding of what I want, what I agree with, and where I am categorically against.

my task is to find masters and be fully armed. So I'm trying.

Natasha, what does it mean to find masters? Are you saying that the furniture will be made by one person and not in production?

No, well, it so happened that I called the "master". Firm (I don't like this word), production - there is an office, there are official partners, suppliers, and there is a designer. The level suits me, reviews, saw the work. Well, I have a gap in my knowledge, or rather in communicating with people who had such a material, how it behaves and shows itself in use, in everyday life. But the hostesses are different and the conditions (heating, number of tenants, etc.)

At the beginning of the journey, we turned to one master for advice, then I realized that I was self-taught, but still it was a start for a flight, then they began to look closely at furniture firms that make furniture to order. First, my husband and I went to these furniture firms, warehouses, shops. We watched the material.Then I started collecting catalogs, looking for all sorts of pictures, touching, smelling (sometimes chemical smells ...). Then I measured everything with a tape measure, decided on the technique, drew what I wanted. then I found this very company, the measurer came, then they made a rough drawing, then refined, then I added and rearranged, now they showed me the project in 3D, what it looks like, came home again and calmed down. Well, I didn't write much, I walked for a long time to the finish line. The price is the same as through construction centers, if a ready-made kitchen, then everything is taken into account - I am happy from this.

Then the rule I have is this - I really like to face objects, they find me. I have a lot of bruises. Therefore, I also look at where it will stand, at what height it will hang, what edge. I love justified versatility. so I'm focusing on all this. Well, if you don’t like it, we’ll replace the facades - it’s the beginning of the trouble.

I will do the same with the sofa, which, well, really needs to fit into a non-standard corner. So is the hallway ...

Girls, at the end of March I got my favorite kitchen, went around 5 or 6 salons with my husband, spent 5 hours in each one, the same number of calculations were done and pictures even in color, we stopped at stylish kitchens, and there are several reasons for this -

1) the terms are the fastest and most realistic 21 days exactly, (then I ordered a cabinet for the equipment - they did it in 12 days) in all other places from 35 and -50 days and longer,

2) they have their own production and they almost do not take additional money (quite a penny really) for non-standard sizes of boxes, a step size of 1 cm. this could not be done anywhere,

3) the price came out cheaper than in all other salons, despite the fact that all the boxes and all the elements I have are the most expensive. 3) the standard height of the tabletop is about 85 cm (I don't remember exactly), but my height is 172 cm and I am not comfortable with the standard height of the tabletop - they made me higher and only for this it seems they took a little money. Installation and delivery are included in the price right away, arrived at 9-00 and left at 24-00 (I had a lot of complex elements), collected everything, and removed it.

The guarantee for the kitchen is 2 years, and everywhere (where we have been) 1 year only. They do not use cheap mechanisms at all (so that it is not possible to save money now, and then spit on them) - they have only two options and they are sure of this very quality.

In general, I want to say that I just adore my kitchen and am extremely glad that I have it. Tomorrow my husband will wake up and ask him to take a picture and show her. True, there was not enough money for a table and chairs now, because we are with the old ones, but we will collect money and think about which table to buy with chairs to my beauty.

By the way, they (stylish kitchens) have virtual tours of their salons, it is very interesting to see if anyone can not go to the salon and watch live. In the salon there are many all sorts of convenient storage systems that can be moved, opened, closed, and it comes to understanding whether it is convenient for you or not.

Svetlana, the comment will be absolutely wonderful if you indicate the footage of your kitchen, the material from which the facades and countertops were made, and the resulting cost

By the way, in my kitchen (in principle, I will not name the manufacturer, so as not to be considered an advertisement), I DID NOT PAID FOR ANYTHING for the non-standard width of the drawers and even less standard height of the lower cabinets and upper

... basically I will not name the manufacturer ...

They already kind of called it

Two years ago, I ordered a large kitchen from the Kitchen Announcement company

I DID NOT PAID FOR ANYTHING for the non-standard width of the drawers and even less the standard height of the lower cabinets and upper

There are manufacturers who work with non-standard furniture and do not add the price when the size is reduced. With an increase, add, since there is a greater consumption of material.
There are those who add when the size is reduced, for non-standard. Since in this case it is necessary to draw up a new cutting plan.
It happens in different ways.Again, it depends on the material, on the type of milling and the like.

As a matter of fact. I would not buy furniture from private owners. What is the demand from them? Will he provide a certificate for the material? Will be responsible for the shortcomings that may appear later?

Rita, thanks for the congratulations, the pictures will be sure, just today they took their manual Clathronic steam generator from delivery and of course it passed the tests right away, so there was no time for the pictures, on the trail. weeks I will try to show everything.

They already called it that

Yes, sorry .....

There are manufacturers who work with non-standard furniture and do not add the price when the size is reduced. With an increase, add, since there is a greater consumption of material.

Quite the opposite, the non-standard nature of my huge (as it seemed to me at first) kitchen - in very high lower drawers, upper drawers and a large apron, because my husband is almost 2 m tall. And the width is non-standard in the sense - large

I found my sweet spot. In tiog, a kitchen made of painted MDF cost me 2 times cheaper than in furniture stores. And also to order!