Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Please advise delicious wheat bread. I bake the Italian Elenki 65 all the time. I love him very much and the result is always predictable. I still wanted something simple.

can you link to Italian?

Yesterday I tried to make milk bread, according to the recipe and program from the bread machine. There you can choose between the first or the third program, I chose the third one, because it is 2 hours shorter due to the exclusion of temperature equalization. Total: on the sides and bottom, the crust is baked, the lid is absolutely damp (and I think that inside too) and bursting on one side.
I put the ingredients strictly according to the recipe, like everything was at room temperature. Milk, I would not say that it was warm, but not cold either.
I sin on low voltage in the network. At us in the evenings it happens that it falls. What is the reason that the bread is not baked, can you tell me?

Please advise delicious wheat bread.

I'm like that frog ...

Everyday white bread from Natasha-Talia

Daily white bread with live / pressed yeast in a Panasonic SD-2500 bread maker (Waist)

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar,

I chose the third one, since it is 2 hours shorter due to the exclusion of temperature equalization. Total: on the sides and bottom, the crust is baked, the lid is absolutely damp (and I think that inside too) and bursting on one side.

I got the same thing, and I concluded from this that delicious bread is never quick

[Prank]

Prank, French.

Is the third program really quick bread? I have raisins. Therefore, I am surprised. Murat, we're cheating the alignment here. We turn on the program and while it is "aligned" we throw everything into the bucket. Everything works out with a bang. Try it!

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 11:22 am

In the summer, in the heat, this alignment generally lasts two hours. People are pushing something from the freezer into the stove, again for deception ...

[marinastom]

marinastom,

and while it is "aligned" we throw everything into the bucket.

In the summer, in the heat, this alignment generally lasts two hours.

Marina, can you tell us a little more about this? otherwise I'm completely confused

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, I got the same thing, and I concluded from this that delicious bread is never fast

Yeah, I immediately remembered that "soon only cats will be born"

Is the third program really quick bread? I have raisins. Therefore, I am surprised.
Murat, we're cheating the alignment here. We turn on the program and while it is "aligned" we throw everything into the bucket. Everything works out with a bang. Try it!

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 11:22 am

In the summer, in the heat, this alignment generally lasts two hours. People are pushing something from the freezer into the stove, again for deception ...

Here are the sly ones
The third program is not with raisins. In the evening I'll look, I'll tell you exactly.
Still, a slightly low voltage can cause the bread to not bake, etc.?

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, I baked once on a quick dairy. The result is an iron shape. I don't bake anymore.
I also have 3 programs - fast.

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marina, can you tell us a little more about this? otherwise I'm completely confused

I turn on the stove for the first program. The scoreboard is 4.00. alignment or whatever it says on the display. I take out the bucket, slowly throw everything in, you can do a lot in half an hour ... I put the bucket back.
In hot weather, before turning on the stove, you need to put something cold inside, not necessarily in a bucket and wait. To deceive, so to speak, the ambient temperature sensor. But there is another danger: in the heat, the dough can stop. So you have to watch.

[marinastom]

marinastom, that I was completely confused even more, because logically, the warmer the warmer the process of alignment should be faster ... I can't understand anything at all

[LuckyS]

LuckyS, I baked from 300 gr. flour.

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, There are many things in the world, friend Horatio ...
This is the little that sometimes infuriates me in Panasonic. But bread redeems everything!

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marisha, does your Natasha's bread have sourness?

[marinastom]

marinastom, that I was completely confused even more, because logically, the warmer the warmer the process of alignment should be faster ... I can't understand anything at all

Vlad, alignment in order to adjust the duration of the program itself to the ambient temperature.
When it's hot, the process is quicker, so it should be shorter to prevent the dough from overripe.
When it's cold, the process slows down, so it must be longer for the dough to ripen to the desired state.

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 12:25 pm

ZanZibar, I baked once on a quick dairy. The result is an iron shape. I don't bake anymore.

And on the fast I got ordinary beautiful bread, baked, with normal ma
yakish and crust. But the taste is AT ALL ABOUT ANYTHING Neither flour nor yeast mature during this time and the taste is appropriate.
But this program will not let you die of hunger in the "need for 2-3 hours"

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 12:28 pm

I chose the third one, since it is 2 hours shorter due to the exclusion of temperature equalization.

Murat, in that program, more than alignment is excluded, and this already affects the final result and is very noticeable to taste.

the warmer, the faster the alignment process

Here here I once tried for a long time to carry out objective control empirically.
In the same place, just below there is a link to a discussion of the alignment process as a separate topic.

[Murat]

Still, a slightly low voltage can cause the bread to not bake, etc.?

Never special in voltage, but even a light bulb shines badly if the voltage drops. Surely it affects both the intensity of the batch and the temperature - and in HP this is VERY important.
Murat, Vlad, you can and should look into the stove (especially at the stage of mastering the device, learning to bake, working out a recipe) within reason of course: at the stage of kneading - to track the bun; at the proving stage - to control the process and make sure that everything is going as it should and the dough of the required volume before baking. DO NOT open the oven when baking has already started. Of course, in an emergency (fire, flood ...) you can.

[Waist]

WaistThank you, now it seems to me it began to gradually reach before I thought that everything was very simple, I measured it out, weighed it, fell asleep and just drooling in anticipation of a delicious bread, but it turns out that everything is not so simple

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 12:40 pm

CountrymanThank you very much, wait, I'll take a look and try to delve into these tricks

Another important point - the stove should not stand in a draft when it is working.

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

I used to think that everything is very simple, measured it out, weighed it, fell asleep and just drooling

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, this is exactly what I have been doing for several years, after playing enough with recipes. Shoals without control are extremely rare. The most super-duper joint (I always mention it) is when I forgot to pour in the liquid: pard: and in the morning we were raised by the "aroma" of fried flour. So anything can happen. They wrote that they forgot to insert the spatula. Good luck to you!
By the way, you have "filled in" missed "... measured, weighed, filled in ..."

They wrote that they forgot to insert the spatula.

I remember someone here wrote that, angry at the failure, he dumped the spoiled bread straight from the bucket into the garbage chute. Later it turned out that together with the scapula ...

Tin!

Girls, thank you for showing the Stolichny recipe from Fugasca in this thread, I skipped this recipe myself, and it turned out to be so delicious.

[Wit]

Wit, Well, I have not yet had serious jambs, Once here is the truth in my very first loaf, I poured and measured everything for big bread, and measured the water and poured it as for a small one, somehow I realized that there was not enough water when the dough was half the time the kneading passed, I added water to the required amount right into the bun, prepared for the worst result, but surprisingly the bread turned out to be very decent, it rose well and baked, well, once I forgot to put a spatula, but then five minutes after turning it on I saw it on the table ..., I really hope that on this I will end such misunderstandings, although who knows,

By the way, you have "filled in" missed "... measured, weighed, filled in ..."

Now ... I forgot about water again

Added on Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 02:14 PM

I remember someone here wrote that, angry at the failure, he dumped the spoiled bread straight from the bucket into the garbage chute. Later it turned out that together with the scapula ...

Hence the moral, you cannot throw bread, even if spoiled, you would feed the birds, and the scapula would remain

[Waist]

Waist, Yes, I already realized that short programs should not be used. I will, of course.
With regards to the tension: the other day I put the bread to bake overnight, so that by the morning everything would be ah-lo-lo. At night, with tension, complete order, and the temperature in the stove went even out according to all the laws of goodness and beauty. In general, by the morning I was waiting for a gorgeous bread, rosy like our deputies)).

[Murat]

Murat, so you have found the best time in your conditions!

[Murat]

Murat, so you have found the best time in your conditions!

That's right)). But, experiments continue)

[marinastom]

marinastom, Marisha, does your Natasha's bread have sourness?

Light, not a drop! In any case, we do not notice anything like that.
Again, I bake in French, for 400 flour with 1/2 teaspoon of dry yeast.

[marinastom]

marinastom, and mine was sour. I read your and Rita's reviews, saw how you like bread, baked it, used dry yeast. The bread is delicious, but only suitable for toast.
Could it be the serum?

Light, maybe. But mine is also sour.

I think everyone but me has already tried to bake a cake and cake according to the Panasonic book ... tell me pliz, is it okay or is it not even worth bothering?

But that's not all ...
I won't even try. There are tons of other gadgets for this. Chief is the oven!

[DARK STEPPE EAGLE]

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, try it yourself, tastes are different.

I baked the cake. There is even a photo somewhere here. It turned out fine and tasty.

Sorry! Kulich and I baked. Long. Everything is OK too!
Simply, seeing the word "cake in a bread maker", my mind got confused ...

[marinastom]

marinastomWell, I want to try all the possibilities of this bread machine, so that at least know what you can count on and what you shouldn't even hope for
$ vetLana, boom to try, I really hope that from frequent trials I will not turn into a bun by spring
WitWell, even more so, since it worked out, then I will succeed
Thank you very much ... Vitaly (this is beer) girls

Vlad, everything will work out for sure! (beer)

[WLAD]

$ vetLana, boom to try, I really hope that from frequent trials I will not turn into a bun by spring

WLAD, here, now, I tried it once and tied it up for this very reason

[Wit]

Wit,

(beer)

well, with beer, I'll heap up such cakes ... it's already scary to think how delicious they will be

Vlad, my countrywoman knows what she says!

... but in general there should be a lot of good people ...

I agree!

[WLAD]

WLAD, try this cake Butter cake

[Anchic]

AnchicThank you very much, I will definitely try, maybe even today

Added Wednesday 15 Feb 2017 07:27

I think everyone but me has already tried to bake a cake and cake according to the Panasonic book ... tell me pliz, is it okay or is it not even worth bothering?

I have baked Butter Kulich from Elena Bo many times.
I'll tell you ~ it's a Fairy Tale !!!)))

I have baked Butter Cake many times from Elena Bo

Thanks for the recommendation, I hope I'll try it today

DARK STEPPE EAGLE, here is my own recipe, it is not published anywhere, I have been baking for five years, but the option is a win-win. Try it if you want.
Ingredients: dry yeast - 2.5 tsp,
wheat flour - 400 gr,
salt - 0.5 tsp.
sugar - 7 tbsp. l.
vanilla sugar - sachet (optional)
butter - 2 tbsp. l.,
eggs - 3 pcs.,
milk - 170 ml,
raisins - 100g, (optional)
turmeric - 0.25 tsp, less is possible (optional, gives a beautiful yellow color)
nutmeg - 0.5 tsp
Basic mode is fast, size M, the crust is optional (I have a light one).
Heat the milk and melt the butter in it. When you pour it into the bread maker, it should be lukewarm. I add turmeric directly to milk and mix well. I pre-steam and dry the raisins, otherwise it will collect at the bottom. I put the food in the order it says in the instructions (eggs are considered liquid ingredients). Good luck.

[Marisha Aleksevna]

Marisha AleksevnaIs the Basic mode exactly fast? Something in my confidence in him diminished. And the taste (smell) of yeast is not felt?
shl. I stole the recipe, thanks!

Murat, yes, I baked on fast mode. But if in doubt, you can try Basic Raisin. Then you will put the raisins in the dispenser if there is one, and if not, the bread maker will give you a signal to bookmark. I use the fast one only for this cake, and I don't like the bread on it. Good luck!