Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (3)

Laaluu, I will answer you for the last time!
You either did not read the previous two answers or decided to ignore them. Well, read it all the same, maybe you will understand why they refuse to communicate with you.
Once again, get nasty, I will turn to the administrator, let him take appropriate measures to you.

Laaluu, I will answer you for the last time!
You either did not read the previous two answers or decided to ignore them. Well, read it all the same, maybe you will understand why they refuse to communicate with you.
Once again, get nasty, I will turn to the administrator, let him take appropriate measures to you.

You are a strange gentleman, they did not answer the directly posed question on the kneading technique and layering of the dough. Instead, you are already answering twice, without answering a technical question, but just sticking out don't understand what. And am I being rude? Or will he just write me a reprimand, because you are a regular, and I'm like a newbie? Well, yes, you do not answer my questions.
I draw a conclusion.
If you cannot answer the directly posed technical question, frightening the admin instead and attributing some rudeness, although I just noted that you actually did not say anything factual, then you simply DO NOT KNOW the operation of the unit.
Well, or you know, but you are hiding, instead, you are trying to make you respect, although for what it is not clear, you didn’t answer the question, and the direct one.
At this I say goodbye to you, I see that you can not help anything specific, except to tell a story about the number of bread makers and the duration of their use, which is not interesting and indifferent to me ...

P. S. It is a pity that there is no such information on the forum, you will have to buy blindly and research it yourself ...

But so far no one has described the actions of the device within the regime.

Well, I have described. Five years ago. As soon as the HP Pan-256 bought myself, he subjected it to a comprehensive study.
There are a lot of things here. So what?
Should you look for a link? Look for that message if you ask.

Should you look for a link? Look for that message if you ask.

Thanks for the direction of the search, I think I'll find it myself. time of writing is. I have a nickname, I have a model, I will definitely find it myself ... Thank you.

Good evening everyone. Take me into your ranks. In December I bought myself a Redmond 1908 bread maker, but after a month I realized that it was not enough for me. And then I bought myself a Panasonic 2511. So far, everything turns out not very predictable, but a frank marriage, such that there was not a single one to throw out. In general, we are now with her in the stage of an emerging friendship. )))

[Elena1908]

While everything turns out not very predictable,

Elena1908, it is possible in more detail, which does not work. Let's figure it out!

Vit. Baked egg bread from the recipe book. I already know the kolobok rule. The roof was torn off as much as a loaf floor, I think there is a lot of yeast in the recipe. The bread itself is great. Baking oven, there the lid blew a little. baked milk from the book. Instead of 2 and 1/2 I put 1 and 1/2. Luxurious bread, lid in place. I took recipes from the forum, everything is fine. Now I baked the Cherkizovskaya bun from the forum, it's also good. Here I sit and think, roofing felts with weak yeast recipes, roofing felts with a thermonuclear batch. The very taste of all breads cannot be compared with the Redmond ones. )))

Lena, you are thinking in the right direction! My bread also breaks the roof sometimes. This is not a disadvantage for me. I even love this kind of bread. But my wife doesn't like the look of the roof, although she eats bread with pleasure. In such cases, I change the yeast. Moreover, I definitely take it from another store, since it is less likely to take yeast from the same batch. Of course, you can overshoot with the amount of liquid. Here you have to follow the kolobok.We have been putting bread for the night for a long time and go to bed, and in the morning we get it ready. You don't have to set the alarm clock - at 7-00 we wake up from the aroma of freshly baked bread. But when the bread does not rise very much, then I already worry and change the flour or conjure with liquid. Especially if the flour is 1st grade. It is the most recommended, but also the most difficult to find))). I dilute the wheat flour with rye. This is what is called weekdays. Egg, dairy, French, sausage-ham, garlic-parsley-dill, Borodino and even with coffee are in the past for me. Harsh everyday life requires just delicious everyday bread, the recipe of which has been learned long ago and is made on the machine. For many years of practice, only one incident occurred: I forgot to pour in the liquid. For which they were raised at 6 in the morning by the smell of toasted flour. There were no more punctures. Good luck and delicious bread!

Thank you Vit.
I don't know how to turn it over. )))) As I say, friendship is improving. Cherkizovskaya bun.

Elena1908, standard for 500 g of wheat flour is taken 1.5 tsp. (measured from CP) dry yeast or 12 g pressed.
I looked in the instructions for Panasonic 255, there is egg bread:
yeast 1.5 tsp
flour 500g
salt 2 tsp
sugar 2 tbsp. l.
powdered milk 2 tbsp. l.
sl. oil 2 tbsp. l.
eggs 2 pcs.
water 230 ml

Lactic:
there are two options:
Yeast 1.5 tsp.
yeast R 2.5 tsp
It is necessary to take 1.5, this is just for instant yeast like Saf the moment.
And the second version of yeast for accelerated baking, there is a note in the instructions. In the accelerated mode, the cooking time is reduced, therefore, they take more yeast. Most likely, you put in 2.5 tsp. in normal mode for 4 hours.
According to this recipe, everything turns out well if 1.5 tsp. and the time is 4 hours.
It is better not to use the accelerated mode without special need, the bread is worse than on the usual one.
Compare with your recipe for 2511. I also have a Panasonic 2502, out of interest, when I dig up instructions in a pile, I'll also see what is written there.

Olga. I made an egg xl. There are 2 spoons. ))) but milk, but I got confused, but in the end I put it right.
it's egg

Elena1908, in general, in the instructions all the recipes are correct, except for those for rye bread. There, for example, in Bread on kvass 400 ml of kvass, and in Bread with bran of water 430 ml, that's a lot.

Olga. And I have in my recipe 300. I'll take a look in the evening.

[Bast1nda]

Bast1nda, Natalia, for example, a loaf for 25 kopecks "Cut"

Stagnation bar

I put 8-10 g of fresh yeast on 500 g of flour and I think that this is more than enough. I bake almost always on the 1st program, most often with a delayed start, at night. And by the morning the bread is ready. I get up at 6 o'clock in the morning and immediately take out their HP bread. With less yeast, bread will be denser, less porous and less crumbly. Using the method of long tests, I determined the amount of yeast, most often I bake it with whey, if not, then with ordinary spring water. Yes, and I take a little more water than in the recipe, 12-20 grams.

Olga. I looked in the book. I have 300 ml of water on my bran bread. So far, I only bake with dry yeast. One of these days I will try on fresh ones.

If 300ml per 500g of flour, then it was corrected in the new instructions.
Approximately so much liquid goes into standard bread. Sometimes it happens that it depends on the moisture content of the flour that you need a little more water, you can always add it during the kneading process.

Flour 425, and 3 tablespoons of bran

All the best !!!
take to the ranks
became the owner of a super assistant Bread Maker PANASONIC SD-ZB2512KTS
very happy with her little girl Sonechka! because this device and bakery is my first time in my life, so I can say that life is a success !!
ps: and how did I live without her before ???

[bagel]

bagel, Congratulations! I agree 100%. Your bread is very varied, it can not be compared with the store one.
Delicious bread!

how did I live without her before ???

I repeat this every day ...
Sometimes I say that I want one more ...
For example, bread is being baked, but my husband wants dumplings ... And who will knead if the assistant is busy? ... I'm too lazy ...

Added on Tuesday 24 Jan 2017 05:40 PM

I put 8-10 g of fresh yeast on 500 g of flour and I think that this is more than enough.

Likewise.

[bagel]

bagel, with the purchase! Let it serve for a long time and reliably.
I made French bread for the first time - at 6 o'clock. It turned out that I don’t like this kind of bread! When you dip it in sauce, it somehow sags, creeps. The bread on a 4 hour program absorbs the sauce, but retains its shape.

My husband now bakes bread himself.
I sent him to Bosnia, Panasika, he tortured me for a long time so that I could give him a recipe. As a result, according to the video, I laid the bread with him, or rather, he laid the first bread, put it on. It turned out superr!
He liked it so much that he then put another one, and now he wants to bake with a delay, well, now he doesn't need a wife
And here is the bread itself

And the roof is good)
Weighed on a mechanical balance with an arrow))

[Ekaterina2]

Ekaterina2, interesting. This is the first time I meet someone who doesn't like a Frenchman. Everyone has different tastes.

Added on Tuesday 24 Jan 2017 06:25 PM

Masinen, husband - with the first bread! It is very convenient: the wife cooks, the husband bakes bread.

The Frenchman crumbles very much, the children reject him because of this, they say, strange bread)

And I love French very much, I have been making it on Narzan lately, very tasty.

My bread maker creaked very strongly. I can't insert a video. Writes that such an extension is impossible. The creak is very strong. What to do???

Masinen, husband - with the first bread! It is very convenient: the wife cooks, the husband bakes bread.

Svetlana, thank you !! Yes, now it will help))
I didn't even think that it would be interesting for him to use all kitchen devices, because at first he was categorically against, but now

[Elena1908]

Elena1908, at what time did it creak: during kneading? Have you checked the gingerbread man? Maybe you need to add water?

During kneading. The gingerbread man is normal. I checked. The bucket turned the other way around. The creak is still very strong. Now it is on the rise. It did not creak right away.

I only creaked with a very steep kolobok (with buckwheat flour). What kind of bread do you bake? Was it baked before?
Stove guru Alexander sazalexter.

[Elena1908]

Elena1908, the correct question is: "What kind of bread do you bake? Did you bake it before?" Squeak or rattle on metal?
First try uploading the video to YouTube. And from him already here. It is important to listen to this creak.
After baking and cooling the bread machine, run it idle and listen and watch.
Then go here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=637.140
Called "Kneading creaks and bucket problems"There are 8 pages. You can start with the 5th. Pay attention to Reply # 91 on 13 Sep. 2011, 22:08"
And don't worry, you have a warranty device.

Vit. I bake kefir from the forum. The gingerbread man was not thick. The first time this bread, and the first time with raw yeast. I have never uploaded a video to YouTube. I'm going to try now. Now there was a mixture. Nothing creaked.

I revised the previous post. Read it there. There is a hope that nothing terrible happened to your stove.

[Elena1908]

Elena1908, what is your bookmark of products: first dry, then liquid?

The Frenchman is very crumble

The crust suits me. But the crumb is not. That's why I don't like baguettes like that. And then she took and baked bread for herself! I like thicker bread.

Vit. Thank you. I watched the video there. I have a wheezing creak. No rumble. I'll try with water later. I could put the video on YouTube, but I don't understand how to cram it here. Newbies are not allowed to post external links. : plach7: Bread is being baked now. Svetlana. I put the products according to the instructions. Down dry, liquid on top.

[Elena1908]

Elena1908To upload a video, select the YouTube icon (see above the message, the cat is typing) and insert your video.

Svetlana. You can't do that either. When I try to insert a video, they write to me that they will be banned.

Quiet how. There is not anyone. My stove stopped creaking. Yesterday I baked two breads, and today rye custard. Doesn't creak. Vitaly. Thank you very much for your help !!!!

Tomorrow evening the others will be happy for you too! Many will go to work tomorrow.I'm happy for you!

Thank you Vitaly. My husband's mother came to my house yesterday, I baked her with me, and today I baked. I practically stuffed my ears into the bread maker, there are no creaks. At all. )))

[Elena1908]

Elena1908, that's good that everything is working fine now

Hello.
Dear owners of SD-2502, tell me, is the mixer drive in your oven plastic or metal? Thank you!

Have you heard the ravings from Bread Maker. 24?

[marinastom]

marinastom, a "weighty" argument was invented to discourage buyers from Panasonic

Have you heard the ravings from Bread Maker. 24?

To be honest, I don't even know what kind of "Breadmaker.24" is. I read about the plastic shaft in reviews on the * market and in a couple of online stores. For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that there is only one review about this drive, but it has been replicated on many sites. However, like many other reviews, both positive and not very positive.
Well, okay, not the point, my question does not matter anymore, since I bought a stove a couple of hours ago. True, the model is slightly different: SD-2511
Having gone a little deeper into the topic, I realized that I do not need a dispenser for yeast, but for nuts, etc. I do. And I didn't want to overpay for the metal case. In general, what I bought and bought.
I haven't cooked anything yet, I just wiped it inside and out. Now I am studying the instructions, recipes). Join the ranks of bakers

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, Did you mean this node?

I recommend you to read Sasha's post here

After working for 8 years, after a huge load, the HP SD-255 broke down, the bucket drive ADE97A107 collapsed. then from the end of the 80s. Again, the unit is specially made of carbolite plastic, it plays the role of a “foreseen breakage” unit, and should break when overloaded.
I will add: ... "saving the stove"

Congratulations on your purchase! Good luck and delicious bread!

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, Did you mean this node?

Yeah, he is.
I also saw the post indicated by you, today). After reading it, I immediately ordered a stove, so as not to doubt, not to weigh the pros and cons).
Thank you very much for your congratulations and wishes! All the best to you too!
I have been on the forum for only a couple of days, but it feels like the atmosphere here is friendly and warm, like in a real bakery

[ZanZibar]

ZanZibar, welcome to the forum! There are many customized reviews on various resources, so most of the residents of Khlebopechki mainly trust only local discussions.