Bread maker Binatone BM-2169

Good day! I ask to be admitted to your ranks! I recently purchased a Binaton-2169 bread maker. Before that, this equipment was not in the house, therefore, I had to lower it a little and spoil a couple of batches, it turned out that it was a matter of low-quality yeast. But I can't call the last bread successful either, although the taste pleased me, but it looks not very successful, there is no dome, and in its place there is a hole in the form of a trough, the feeling that the bread began to fall off during baking, tell me what I am not doing So? I baked ordinary bread and French bread, according to recipes from the book, the result is almost the same. Do you really have to put baked goods forcibly?

marat_s, my hp has a slightly light crust .. I can put more ingredients on a bun. for example French small in the recipe they have 280 grams, and baked like 450!
Irishka17, your bread either has a lot of water, or a lot of yeast, or maybe together. If you take flour in cups, then you need to hit the glass on the table so that the flour "tamped down" and it was enough. but in general here people on the site "preach" the rule of the kolobok and they are probably right. I use scales, there were no punctures with the dome. I will say more, the roof of Binaton bread is even more beautiful than that of Mulinex, so there is NO need to dance with tambourines, increase the amount of flour.

Lana, I don’t understand that to make the crust lighter, you need to add more of what ingredients?

I did it based on the recipes in the instructions and in the booklet. That is, he measured them with cups and spoons. There are no problems with the dome. It is convex, full, and does not fall off.

but it looks not very good, there is no dome, but in its place there is a hole in the form of a trough, the feeling that the bread began to fall off during baking, tell me what am I doing wrong?

I suggest you start baking homemade bread from the beginning and from this topic https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=33.0

but in general here people on the site "preach" the rule of the kolobok and they are probably right. I use scales, there were no punctures with the dome.

We're not preaching anything here!
And we help to bake delicious homemade bread from the very first bread, because over the almost five years of the site's existence, we have stuffed ourselves with cones and threw a lot of flour with inedible bread, consider that we save your money and emotions from the first steps!

And the fact that you had no punctures - so everything is still ahead! Then remember our sermons about the kolobok and other nuances of baking!

marat_s, I may not quite clearly expressed myself. I'll try this: I made two French in the bookmark 450 grams according to the recipe from the book, got two tanned 280 grams each. when I made two of my own, 500 grams each on the "two by 450" mode, they turned out to be frankly pale on the middle crust. in general, the greater the weight of the dough, the paler the loaf in the same mode

Thanks a lot for the advice! Yesterday I put simple 2x450 bread in the main mode, but to be honest, I was afraid that it would settle again, I put the pastries forcibly, the breads came out great! Moderately fried and very tasty. I hope I'll be patient and wait for her to bake herself, then I will give a report on what happened after all.
Another question, from the bowl which is 2x450 after baking, a little white pad jumped out, poured water there, thank God, the form does not flow, but this moment worries a little. Maybe I'm not alone?

a little white pad jumped out, poured water there, thank God, the form does not flow, but this moment worries a little. Maybe I'm not alone?

I was not too lazy and went to look at that pad ... it sits there tightly ... how could it jump out? if the oven is under warranty, I would talk to the service center about the gasket while the warranty is valid ..today it does not flow, but tomorrow who knows?

I was not too lazy and went to look at that pad ... it sits there tightly ... how could it jump out? if the oven is under warranty, I would talk to the service center about the gasket while the warranty is in effect .. today it does not flow, but tomorrow who knows?

Yes, and I sit tightly, I looked at everything there for a long time and tediously, there is another gasket there. Apparently there were two and the extra one jumped out.
And I don’t really want to get involved with the guarantee, I ordered it in the online store and I don’t think that they would be very happy about my call regarding the return, but if it does flow, then I will not leave anyone alone there.

Irishka17, at least I bought it at the market! If it is problematic to contact the seller, you need to take warranty documents and go to the service center indicated on the coupon or on the manufacturer's website, repair and do not buzz. I went through this with Moulinex twice and without any reservations and wrangling, I changed the bucket once and one repair. Well, I’ll explain it just in case.

Good evening to you, colleagues!)
The other day we got a Binatone BM-2169 stove, we have been baking for a week and only today I saw, as it seems to me, an error in the program. Please see how you are?
Attention, question!
when you press the "BUKHANKA" button, the arrow moves from left to right from one value to another in this order: "900" - "1125" - "2 * 450". Do you have the size of the loaves on the stove in the same order?
But the overall duration of the program changes so that for a loaf weighing 900g. it takes more time than a 1125g loaf. For example, for program no. 3 (French) in the user manual (see the table on page 5), the operating time 3: 40/3: 35/3: 30 corresponds to the size of the loaves 1125/900/2 * 450 g, i.e. bread weighing 1125g. cooks 3:40, and weighs 900g, cooks 3:35 hours, which looks logical, larger size means more time for baking. However, on the bread maker itself, for example in program number 3, for bread weighing 900 the time is 3:40, and for weight 1125 the time is 3:35.
Owners of Binatone BM-2169, please, see how the time changes on your stoves depending on the choice of the weight of the loaf?
Or am I missing something?

Hello bakers! we want to buy our first bread maker. So far we have settled on this model and manufacturer. We used to think about a supra with a dispenser, but we read that it rumbles ... and the binaton's double bucket captivates ... Tell me, isn't it the worst cheap stove? I read the whole topic, but I want to listen, are there any significant shortcomings, and also in one description I read that she has a dispenser, and in another I read that she doesn’t
In general, I really want to bake muffins and make jam. But I understand that there is no Keks program, so can it then be baked or will it not work?

Cupcakes can be cooked using the Quick Cook program.

Received a response from Binaton, indeed the bug was confirmed, therefore, when setting the size of the loaf, look at the cooking time, and not at the arrow that indicates the weight. In principle, nothing serious if you know this feature), and if you don't even know, then the maximum that can happen is that the crust will be thicker.

Who cares about the verbatim text below:
"Hello Denis,
Thanks for your feedback.
We checked.
Yes, this is indeed a program error.
You have correctly judged that a larger volume should correspond to a longer cooking time.
You are the first who drew attention to this and suggested to us about this feature, since there were no complaints from other users.
Of course, we will report this problem to the factory for fixing.

Head of Service Department
Binatone, Moscow "

and I also have a bug. I immediately understood this and just took it into account when laying the program.

I also show everything as it should.
And there is someone like this, when you pull out the bucket, at the bottom in the bread maker itself, like aluminum dust around the moving blade itself, and if you look closely from the outside at the bucket itself, where the blade touches and its moving part starts to grind down a little, I hope she explained it clearly, Does anyone else have this, or is it just me?

I have dust, a little. But for some reason I am not worried. And what can this lead to?

Who has what. But I also found a glitch. When I tried to increase the time in the "baking" mode, I made a discovery - as promised in the instructions, the baking time in 10-minute increments does not increase, but a delay is turned on. Cheerful bread maker. I sit and think ..probably all the same the "baking" mode with a delay is good. BUT! if you need to bake for 1.5 hours .. then AMBUSH!

Lana, is this on programming? It's just that the time change is not provided for baking .. or what am I confusing?

Programming is in itself. "Baking" in the instructions says the time changes in 10 minute increments from 0.10 to 1 hour ... yeah .. how ... all the changed time for 10 minutes is a delay in baking ... yes such a decent delay .. something before 13 o'clock seems. I remember that people here on the site discussed the impossibility of postponing baking, as it is in the mulinex, for example, there you can lengthen the baking. In general, when I had to bake for 1 hour and 30 minutes, I put on the second baking and sat for 30 minutes to turn it off on time. Only 1 hour and fffseooo

I have dust, a little. But for some reason I am not worried. And what can this lead to?

Little by little, the rotating part itself is grinded on the bucket, I'm afraid that after some time it will completely grind off and break.

Programming is in itself. "Baking" in the instructions says the time changes in 10 minute increments from 0.10 to 1 hour ... yeah .. how ... all the changed time for 10 minutes is a delay in baking ... yes such a decent delay .. something before 13 o'clock seems. I remember that people here on the site discussed the impossibility of postponing baking, as it is in the mulinex, for example, there you can lengthen the baking. In general, when I had to bake for 1 hour and 30 minutes, I put on the second baking and sat for 30 minutes to turn it off on time. Only 1 hour and fffseooo

Well, I don’t know, I don’t say that in my instructions.

Hello everyone! And who else is Borodino pitch?

Well, I don’t know, I don’t say that in my instructions.

In the instructions "Baking 0: 10-1:00, 10 minutes step can be used after the end of other programs" in the plate

I baked Borodinsky ... tastefully! I baked twice, the first time I used programming, as in the attached booklet, there are two batches, the second is not zeroed in any way and the bread is low. The second time I baked according to the kneading scheme - baking, the bread is high and very tasty, baking for 1 hour 30 minutes.

I did not notice the dust, but I will still watch.

Borodinsky baked for training, it turned out well, but unfortunately we do not like Borodinsky by itself. They ate half, and cut the second and fried in a pan with vegetable oil, it turned out very tasty, tastier than fried rye from the store)

In the instructions "Bake 0: 10-1:00, 10 minutes step can be used after the end of other programs" in the plate

I don't have that in the instructions. Literally: Only baking, no dough kneading or fermentation. Can be used after the end of other programs if you want to extend the baking time.

Not a word about the time step

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Judging by what you write, we have different instructions. I have a non-Russian instruction on page 5.

I already thought. apparently your instruction, such as is posted on the site, but mine consists only of the Russian and Ukrainian versions. Maybe because my bread machine was bought recently. And in my instructions in the plate of column 4, the operating time for each mode is indicated. So the baking is promised in increments as I wrote above. Anyway, it doesn't matter, the main thing is the final excellent result.

[Here is the instruction]

Here is the instruction

So I wrote earlier that according to the instructions, the baking time can be adjusted from 10 minutes. up to 1 hour in 10 minute increments. But in fact it is not regulated.

Unfortunately, the "Bake" mode does not work as stated, the only thing you can do is change the temperature, the baking time cannot be changed and is equal to one hour. Well, soon we will accumulate glitches and bugs and it will be necessary to post it on the first page, for those deciding whether or not to take this oven.

In myoya, the baking time changes, but not from 10 minutes in 10 minute increments, but from 1 hour in 10 minute increments. Of course, the instructions say something else, but it does not bother me.By the way, you can purposefully and in an organized manner collect bugs together and send them in a collective letter to the binaton - let them fix it ... Let's make the bread maker better together!

In myoya, the baking time changes, but not from 10 minutes in 10 minute increments, but from 1 hour in 10 minute increments.

Take a good look. For some reason it seems to me that it is not the baking time that changes, but the timer, the delay in baking.

Here I am the owner of the bread machine. already tried to bake simple white bread, tested different yeast in a double bucket. I discovered that the bun (I haven't quite understood how to regulate it yet) rolls not in a bun, but in a cone, the top, as it were, is glued to the wall of the bucket. this is normal? and yet, on the first page it is written that the main mode bakes at 165 degrees, but in my oven at 180 degrees is this normal?
and another question, in many recipes of other models I see the order of the bookmark - first flour, then liquid. in the instructions in Binaton, vice versa. Should I change the recipes for my oven, or is it not so important?

[Lita]

Lita , I do not regulate the kolobok in any way, and so everything turns out fine. And each stove has its own way of laying out products. In binaton - first liquid, then dry food.

and with a cone, the top is as if glued to the wall of the bucket. this is normal?

You are here, everything is clearly told - video, photo https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=99531.0

tararuk,
I already use different times for the baking mode, but just in case I took out the oven and checked: the baking time changes from 1 hour in 10 minute increments.

the baking time changes from 1 hour in 10 minute increments.

Sloth, and until what time does it change? I have from 1 o'clock to 13 o'clock, so I also assume that this is a timer. Well, bread cannot be baked for 13 hours.

tararuk,
I already use different times for the baking mode, but just in case I took out the oven and checked: the baking time changes from 1 hour in 10 minute increments.

Are you sure that it is the baking time that is changing, and not the delay time for the program start? Try to set 1:10 and press start, will baking go right away? Only in the evening I can check it)

Are you sure that it is the baking time that is changing, and not the delay time of the program start? Try to set 1:10 and press start, will baking go right away?

Quite right. I leave it at 1:00 and start the oven right away, but set it at 1:10 - it does not bake, that is, it is a timer. Yes, that's the bug. But it doesn't really bother me, I rarely just use baked goods.

Yes, apparently I set a different baking time at the home cook. But when I put it 1:10, the coil heats up after 10 minutes.

You are here, everything is clearly told - video, photo https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=99531.0

Thank you, I found this section, I read it as much as possible, but I haven’t met the dough kneading anywhere, not in the form of a bun, but in the form of a cap (the top is glued to the wall)

Good day to the inhabitants of the topic! I discovered another nice feature of the binaton (at least for me). In yeast dough mode, you can use the delay start. How I missed that in my old stove! In the morning I fell asleep with the ingredients, in the evening I came, the dough is ready and there is no need to wait 1.5 hours, dinner with fresh pastries. LIKE!

I can't turn off the stove after the end of the program (it turns on to maintain the temperature), if I press the START / STOP button, the program starts up again.
can eat a trick? Or shutdown just turn off the network?

There is a trick ... hold the button longer until it beeps.

And I still can't figure out the dough mixing. I have two small koloboks, instead of one big one, from time to time. and then a bun is baked with a lane in the middle of the lid.
Maybe the blades should be set somehow in a special way?

Kind time of the day. I want to buy HP Binatone BM-2169. I choose between it and Moulinex OW5024 (I really want to have a baguette, but the “Home baker” mode is captivating). In this regard, there are several questions:
one.Can moulinex baguette molds be used in binaton (or molds from Binatone BM-1168)?
2. How about the buttons: do they click when pressed, or are they pressed like a calculator?
3. Is it possible to arrange 2 baguettes in the main form along, no one tried to bake this way?
4. They also write here that for BM-2169 there are 4 knives (2 for the basic form, 2 for the double), but in the instructions there are only two of them?
5. Is the knife material metal or plastic?
Thanks in advance for the answers ...

Good day.
She was the owner of a baguette holder, now binaton 2169. I wrote my review above. now point by point:
1. no, you can't, for baguettes a program with a break for cutting and a special baking mode (baguettes from the oven are small, 4 pcs, and time is spent on them like bread and they are tastier in the oven) .. pampering
2.buttons click (quietly) and return to their original calculator-like position
3. it is possible, people bake, but it will not be baguettes, the dough will disperse and join, and baguettes are a crispy crumbling crust
4.Yes, 4, two large and two smaller ones, large ones do not wear small uniforms and vice versa
5. And where did you see plastic bread knives? the knives are metal, the design is successful, they are easily removed from the bread, unlike moulinex (I also wrote earlier)

Thanks for the answer! A plastic knife in LG1001CJ (in my opinion) was presented to my parents, at first they were afraid that he was like that, but nothing seems to have any complaints.
At Nadawi's online store. ru there is one review about binaton (about knives): A factory defect is not a coincidence of the pitch of the teeth of the belt and gears and, as a result, the service life is not more than a year. Is it really so?

1. no, you can't, for baguettes a program with a break for cutting and a special baking mode (baguettes from the oven are small, 4 pcs, and time is spent on them like bread and they are tastier in the oven) .. pampering

Isn't it possible to implement the baking mode for a baguette on the BM-2169 in the “Home baker” mode?