Hurray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews

And we ordered Panasonic 256 on the Internet, and while waiting for it, I went through this wonderful site
So by the time of delivery, there were several recipes in service, but I decided to start with wheat from the instructions, but I had to report quite a lot of flour to form the correct bun, about 5-6 tbsp. l., the same thing happened when I baked gray rye today from "Proven recipes for Panasonic"
I must add that I am really very, very happy to join the bakers !!!!

[zabrudik]

zabrudik, welcome to the friendly company
Honestly, it's nice to meet a person who first gets a grip on information, and then intelligently applies his knowledge in practice

The stove came to me late in the evening and did not want to wait until tomorrow. We all fell asleep right away exactly according to the recipe for the main bread from the instructions, set it on the timer and went to bed. It seems to me that I didn’t really sleep, I was probably worried about how the FIRST bread would turn out! In the morning, after the signal, I began to open with breath, and my delight knew no bounds! The bread turned out to be very high and lush !!! It is very important that the first bread is not lumpy, then there is such confidence that you can do everything, and the excitement for further achievements !!! Delicious bread for everyone !!!

Thank you for your hospitality!
Oh yeah! If you get the first bread, you immediately feel confident and ready for new achievements!

Hello everybody!
Today I became the owner of Panasonic 257, while it is not unpacked in the kitchen, my husband went to the store for flour and yeast, and I study the recipes ... and this is what I want to ask ... I liked bread with cheese and sausage .. but since the sausage I don't eat, I just want to put cheese and, for example, dill ... in this regard, the following questions:
!) cheese, dill, I need to immediately add or load into the dispenser
2) if right away, will the dough spoil because of the cheese, since we will put on the timer so that the bread is ready by the morning ...

I would be grateful for a quick answer)))))

[Lena]

Lena, welcome to the company of bakers!

I would advise:
1.the first bread to bake is the simplest - wheat flour, yeast, water, salt, sugar, butter.
2. do not put on the timer. Leave the timer for recipes tested and worked out by YOU. At first, you will need to control the kneading stage without fail.
3. if you really want bread and cheese, especially, do not use the timer, but add the cheese manually when you hear the dispenser open. Cheese has a bad habit of sticking in the dispenser and then melting when baking bread.

In the meantime, read this. UNDERSTANDING BREAD IN HOMEMADE BREAD, paying special attention to point 7 - the formation of Kolobok. You need to know the kolobok rule in order to avoid problems in the form of low-quality bread.

today baked the first bread .. honey agarics turned out to be unsuccessful .. they put everything strictly according to the recipe from a bread machine, baked ordinary French, the bread did not rise (flat as a brick), the crust is pale all in cracks, the crumb is sticky and in my opinion not baked ... but the main thing is that the bread itself is not tasty with everything ...
what could be the mistake?
recipe:
dry yeast saf moment red 1h. l
wheat flour 400 gr (makfa)
salt 1 tsp l
draining. oil 1 tbsp. l (melted, poured hot)
water 300 ml

We used their measuring spoons and cups ..

I sin on the fact that I could be mistaken with the amount of flour, since there are no scales and we put in a glass approximately using a 250gr.

Elenka_26, I think the whole point is that you filled in hot oil.My experience with yeast dough is not small and I can say that hot liquids, including butter, kill yeast and they stop working - hence the flat, stubborn bread. In any yeast dough, regardless of the method of baking, liquids are put warm, so as not to be mistaken, better than room temperature. Heed Rina72's advice and bake the basic recipe from the instructions. I also baked it first and even on the timer and thank God everything worked out! And you will succeed: yes: I wish you a successful bread!

Thanks for the answer!
I bake quite a lot from yeast dough, although I use raw yeast and I never had a problem with it ... if I added hot oil.
but I didn’t bake the main one because I don’t understand the differences between fast-acting yeast and no .. saf only has the usual ones for baking and for pizza ..

Thanks for the answer!
I bake quite a lot from yeast dough, although I use raw yeast and I never had a problem with it ... if I added hot oil.
but I didn’t bake the main one because I don’t understand the differences between fast-acting yeast and no .. saf only has the usual ones for baking and for pizza ..

bake with raw - at the rate of 2 grams of yeast per 100 grams of flour, or with saf. unclear yeast B and R? these are the same yeast, but in different quantities - less for the main mode 4 hours, more for the fast mode 2 hours.

bake with raw - at the rate of 2 grams of yeast per 100 grams of flour, or with saf. unclear yeast B and R? these are the same yeast, but in different quantities - less for the main mode 4 hours, more for the fast mode 2 hours.

How good, I will bake with raw !!! well, never with dry for some reason it did not work out)))))))))))))))))))
I just say in the recipe that 2h. l. B and 2 tsp R, i.e. put 4 spoons? then why do all the other recipes cost one spoon? ..

look at page 17 in the instructions at the bottom of the bottom in small letters what is yeast B and R. In this is the main program for the Bake mode, and R is a quick baking program, there is its own amount. Therefore, you put the amount that you need for your program (or, or)

[Elenka_26]

Elenka_26, have you controlled the bun? From your description, it is flour / liquid imbalance. Back to my recommendations. Read the Manual and here's to you separately Wheat bun master class.

Live yeast works just fine. I use at the rate of 1.5 g per 100 flour, that is, for 500 g flour 7-8 g.

buy scales, everything is much easier with them
and be sure to control the batch!

Yesterday I left my husband to control, today I will myself))) I have already put it on .. and decided to see what is happening there .. I opened the lid, and the mixing process has not started yet .. only alignment, since now I’m afraid of everything, is it possible to open the lid during temperature equalization time?
PS scales we bought

Thank you all for your support))) and advice))) I took into account all possible mistakes and this is what I got)
bread with bran, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds .. delicious))
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[Linen]

Cool bread, beautiful ...
LinenDo not be afraid to look into the HP at any stage, except for baking already, that is, the last hour of work (sometimes I have the whole batch with the lid open). Well, did our mothers-grandmothers-great-grandmothers bake in bread makers? This cake dough is afraid of slamming doors and loud conversations. And bread, if prepared correctly, forgives a lot. Except, perhaps, in a bad mood.

[Elenka_26]

Elenka_26, I have already chosen several recipes here so the hands are itching already

[Laksana]

Laksana I am now baking bread according to the following recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=12565.0

The gingerbread man turned out to be good and in proofing now it seems like a handsome man comes out)) what happened we will see in a couple of hours)))) I will definitely take a picture)))

And the first one did not work out for me, I baked from a book of recipes for xp-French usual .. I messed up with the water-flour ratio, but now I bought the scales and everything is accurate to the gram)))))
the second bread turned out to be very beautiful, I posted the pictures above))
What recipes have you looked after?

[Elenka_26]

Elenka_26, https: //Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=14592.0 https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=71266.0 and a couple more or more))) I already threw full bookmarks for myself on you, you can))))))))

[Laksana]

Laksana what interesting recipes)))) I was especially interested in French)) I'll try too))
you can come to me too

[Laksana]

Laksana I am now baking bread according to the following recipe https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=12565.0

The gingerbread man turned out to be good and in proofing now it seems like a handsome man comes out)) what happened we will see in a couple of hours)))) I will definitely take a picture)))

how did it happen ??? delicious?)))

It turned out just amazing))) only the roof is not a lot crooked, but it did not affect the taste !!!))) I can hardly tear myself off !! oh, I feel I’m eating my ass ((((

It turned out just amazing))) only the roof is not a lot crooked, but it did not affect the taste !!!))) I can hardly tear myself off !! oh, I feel I’m eating my ass ((((

yes, cool: bravo: I feel I won't live to see how I want to bake myself too

We bought a stove for 2 weeks ... we went to friends for a long time, figuring out "where the bread tastes better" - better than in Panasonic 257
We bake bread every day now (and with bran as well) - for all my inexperience in this matter, the bread has never turned out badly. Even a child who did not eat store-bought bread at all (it came to the point that they went to the Chukhonts to buy bread for the cub) - began to eat homemade bread with pleasure. So, if you take Panasonic in an online store, you get an ideal quality / price ratio.
Good luck in choosing

And you will take me to the company, you just brought the stove home until I found it on sale.
everything seems to be clear, but the yeast is not dry, but which in packs are wet (Kryvyi Rih) can be put (otherwise there are these, and you can still look for dry ones)
Thank you

And you will take me to the company, you just brought the stove home until I found it on sale.
everything seems to be clear, but the yeast is not dry, but which in packs are wet (Kryvyi Rih) can be put (otherwise there are these, and you can still look for dry ones

Lika, welcome to the friendly company
"Wet" yeast, and even more so from Kryvyi Rih, goes well into work. Start with 1.5 grams per 100 grams of wheat flour. Simply chop 6-8 g of yeast per 500 g of flour at the bottom of the bucket, bookmark according to the instructions. Be sure to track the kolobok.

It turned out just amazing))) only the roof is not a lot crooked, but it did not affect the taste !!!))) I can hardly tear myself off !! oh, I feel I’m eating my ass ((((

Lena, don't worry about the priests. She just has to be
And no kidding - homemade bread satiates better, so it is usually eaten less (unless, of course, you bake a lot of baked goods).

For a year and a half I baked in a mule, read the forum and did not understand, and that all these are such lovers in Sonya, and now there was an opportunity to change workers. Sonia stands and quietly kneads her trial batch. I won't say anything bad about Mulya, she served faithfully, but Sonya is a queen!

[Oliya2107]

Oliya2107 good luck! it will definitely work out)) today it baked for parents, it turned out with a flat roof - a handsome man, it was even a pity to give
eh, today I was in control, I just crumpled a couple of pieces, maybe at least my husband will get better, otherwise he’s thin, and most importantly, it’s not clear where everything goes

All I was with the first bread ... URYA, could not stand it, went bought a shiver San-moment, baked Italian on kefir https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3814.0 I don't take a photo, I just took it out, tracked the bun, then I was worn out what it will be with me ...

I want to say thank you to everyone who helps newbies in mastering Ogro: flowers: I have an army of bread makers.

put their first bread))) everyone is spinning at HP * JOKINGLY * peeping))) the guy scared screams from the kitchen "she is silent !!" funny so)
it is a dump head smell !!! generally won't let you fall asleep (didn't have dinner) I'm so happy and the view of the bread is beyond praise

here we are, in the evening



and this in the morning

hooray, my first bread has cooled down (from Elena Bo fast) it tastes gorgeous

[Laksana]

Laksana I also distribute to mine))) my parents liked it with bran))) my brother doesn't like bread at all, but here he can't resist, only he can be seen hamster

Dear Bakeries, hello!

urrra !!! Yesterday my Darling brought a surprise bread maker that we dreamed of: Panasoniu 257 !!!

THANKS TO YOU, Bakeries, thanks to YOUR WONDERFUL FORUM we made the best choice - Panasonia 257 !!! how many doubts, discussions, reading reviews ...

in the evening, they gave Panasona to warm up (they read the info on your wonderful forum, thanks), laid the food, Kitty - the baker set the timer and ......... oh MIRACLE, we had a hot, fragrant, delicious breakfast with a crispy crust of French bread !!!! URRRAAAAA !!!!!!!

in the afternoon, we were going to visit and d in Sochi and there was a little bread with a brick, a little gray, I adored it, and so our rye "Frenchman" is similar, only tastier :)

we even dined with bread :)

and so interesting, the bread is very satisfying, you don't want to eat for a long time !!!

tomorrow we will try pies :)

photo will be later!

[Cat-baker and Kisulka]

Cat-baker and Kisulka, Welcome! Congratulations on your purchase! Delicious and fragrant breads for you!
Photos and bragging are welcome! We look forward to your grain victories!

Hello everyone. Today we bought a Panasonic SD 256. Put mustard bread. Did I understand correctly that the higher the temperature, the more the oven will level it? Mustard oil, some kind of Chinese, some hieroglyphs on the label are very eyes eating is this normal?

Hello everybody!!! I'm adding to your ranks! They brought my Panasonic-257 to the pick-up point. I chose it for a long time, I wanted it for more than six months. We'll pick it up tomorrow and experiment.

I made my favorite bread and it turned out to be true, the roof turned out to be uneven .. but nothing will come with experience)))
this is my first rye bread))

Thank you! I will definitely try it as soon as I find malt Half the city has already rummaged through - I can't find any malt, or agram, or panifarin here

Is there https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=39299.0

Thank you! I thought about online stores: I will probably have to use it, although there are slight fears in what form it will all come. Especially after I read the following message on the website of one of them:
"Termination of delivery of orders by Russian Post
Dear visitors.
Sending parcels by Russian Post on our website has been discontinued.
We made this decision for several reasons.
1.Products packed in plastic cans break down during transportation and reach the recipient in an unusable condition;
2. poor-quality delivery of the Russian Post (delay in the delivery of parcels and cash on delivery); ".........
And in the beginning there was a hope to find everything you need on the spot

[Sherly]

Sherly not at all)))) but in general malt can be replaced with kvass ... they say it also turns out very tasty))

[Elenka_26]

Elenka_26 I replaced kvass with dry and it turned out quite tasty
It looked like this:




True, in fact, it is slightly lighter)

And I would like a darker bread, similar to Borodinsky. The experiments continue!

[Sherly]

Sherly This company sells (or traded) wholesale products from TRI-R 🔗 🔗 Maybe they will respond at retail? Maybe they will also tell you from your city https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=3982.70

And here is my first rye-wheat! I have 256+ rye bread scoop.

It turned out delicious, only I forgot to put salt, now we add salt when we eat.
Delicious! Hooray Panasonic !!!!!

what recipe did you use?

Presented at DR Panasonik SD-257. I'm happy.

Presented at DR Panasonik SD-257. I'm happy.

Congratulations !!!! When will the first tests take place?

what's the immediate test? let the person enjoy the state of happiness!