Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

[Bijou]

Bijou, tell us in more detail what a pre-wash is and about soda ash ... where do you use it and why?

I also have unwashed dishes, and they are correctly placed in the typewriter. Tea in a strip on the mugs, dried buckwheat: girl_mad: I try to rinse it before putting it in the car. I'm afraid the filters will clog. With my machine 45_65 I pour a little more than half of the tray. Maybe you need more?
Alexander And I was just going to buy pills for a stock. : oops: The instructions also recommend solo. Although for some reason it seems to me that the pills are stronger, they wash better. True, it was so long ago

And I got on the action "Domolovskih" tablets on the cheap and every time I swear when I use them. I hoped that they were more thermonuclear than powder, but - alas - I don't like the result with a grain of salt! Moreover, that 5in1, that 12in1 - bullshit is the same. The tablet does not completely dissolve with any cycle, and washes worse than powder. I took it to save salt - my car is eating her as if from hunger, despite the established minimum, and on sale only again, such a "domoloskaya" and very small

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, I also have unwashed dishes, but extremely rarely, and that is because of the curvature of the handles
I don’t rinse the dishes, God forbid! I try to buy my Somatom, rinse aid Finish.

: And I won't litter anything? Something is scary not to rinse, maybe try?

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997, since I never rinsed the dishes when I was born and can easily stuff a plate with the remnants of borscht or salad into the car (not that potatoes in large chunks, of course, but vegetables stuck on the walls do not bother me), as well as with oil flowing down from the frying pan, that always, in addition to the powder or tablet, I sprinkle a little detergent on the door from the feeder. It can be a dishwasher powder you don't like, gel for it, soda ash, or even a washing powder for automatic washing machines (it still has almost the same composition as in a dishwasher). In short, something that will initially bind the fat and prevent it from sticking to the dishwasher and other utensils. The prewash in my car is always heated up to forty degrees, so the dishes seem to be washed twice, each time with its own detergent.

[only from the PMM itself and its programs]

and it is laid in the typewriter correctly. Tea in a strip on mugs, dried buckwheat

Girls, I can tell you with 100% certainty that it depends only from the PMM itself and its programs .. why? but because having 2 different PMMs, I had the opportunity to draw such conclusions ... There was PMM Beko (some remember my litigation), now PMM Indesit ... I drank the same tea, the mugs are the same, and the means that I used in different PMMs were the same (even from the same package) ... Only one PMM for six months in no way and on any programs did not want to wash the plaque from tea, and the other one perfectly washed everything from the first wash ...

Len, have you been washing this way for a long time? Is nothing getting clogged? And do you always turn on the prewash? I have a pre-rinse function, but no pre-wash.
Anyut, I'll try to wash it at 75 degrees.

I won't litter anything

There is a filter in the trash, which needs to be washed periodically, there will be food residues in it, or rather, residues from residues that did not dissolve the alkali from the powder.

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, seven years zhezh !!))
In my car, in Auto-55-65 mode, the prewash by default is included in the cycle itself. Perhaps it is precisely because I cloud the water with powder - the aquasensor thinks that the dishes are dirty and need to be washed well and for a long time.

No, nothing gets clogged. Only fish bones sometimes get stuck in the metal mesh of the filter-"glass", then I pull them out with my hands or with tweezers. The rest Bosch rubs against the metal mesh of the bottom filter, even paper labels from cans.)

But once a week I take out all the filters and wash the dirty in the sink with detergent - often fat settles along the thread there.

I also bought a similar tape powder. I don't remember such horror as a car wash at all

And I have been using this powder for about a year. The dishwashing quality is perfect.

it depends only on the PMM itself and its programs

I completely agree with Anya.

And I have been using this powder for about a year. The dishwashing quality is perfect.

Maybe your water is soft? Or do you rinse the dishes before washing?
I have already come across a conclusion similar to mine from other users. Somat washed so-so for me too - I started with him once. I thought I was out of luck with the machine. And then I bought Finishing tablets and changed my mind.

In, I remembered - from powders Domax was excellent soaps!

And this is that filter at the bottom - such a lid with holes, and is a mesh glass inserted into it from below? I wash it too with a bottle brush. No more filters?

No, I don’t know any more filters.) Only this large flat mesh with a thread in the center (it’s where fat happens inside), the glass that is screwed into it (it can be disassembled into two parts by my Bosch) and a small cylinder made of nylon mesh on the very bottom - the most delicate thing of all the available personal belongings, all the time I'm afraid that he will be fragile in my hands from careless movement. ((

Eh ... I've read a lot and I don't know which side to approach the machine. Yesterday I was washing with a pill that came in the kit (Finish Quantum), I didn't even wash it, but drove the car away. I just put some clean plates, glasses. It seems to have taken out any streaks and stains. I even licked the plate a little, I didn’t taste anything foreign. It is necessary to buy powder separately.

Opensource projects, eh ... I've read a lot and don't know which side to approach the machine

Ay, don't worry, life will teach!

Or it may be that there is no salt regulator in the machine. Bosch machine of the year somewhere in 2003. In the passport, the instruction is common for different models, a lever is drawn at the hole for salt, but mine does not have it. There is a Bosch of later years, but a simpler and narrower model is there. This could be ???

Oksana, where do you put salt to sleep?
Yesterday I put down the dirty dishes, didn't rinse them too much, and today I opened them in order to stick in the dishes, and there the panevich is not strong, but it feels so. Yesterday I didn't wash it, I wanted to start the day. Do you do this, or do you wash every day?

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, Larisa, the dump stinks and this is her normal state. If you are very embarrassed, there is a stinky deodorant on sale. My dishes as the cabinet accumulates with dirty dishes.

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, then I fall asleep like everyone else, this is all normal, but I have no lever and numbers ...

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997, there must be an electronic setting

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, Larisa, the dump stinks and this is her normal state. If you are very embarrassed, there is a stinky deodorant on sale. My dishes as the cabinet accumulates with dirty dishes.

Yeah, that's just yesterday, when bulkheading the locker, I found this stinker, bought on the same day with a typewriter, and attached it ..... I wish I hadn't done it .... it’s a very vigorous smell, but I’ll have to endure a month (as written in the instructions - enough for a month)

Tan, maybe the softer smell will disappear You don't know which is better to smell

[Scops owl]

Scops owl, the smell is very sharp - and you can hear it in the kitchen even with the dishwasher closed ... Today, out of anger, I took it off ... and hung it back, because I was frying the fish, and now it doesn't even smell in the kitchen - only lemon from cars
In general - I rarely have a smell in the typewriter - mine, it happens, and twice a day, and sometimes - and once every two days. But when the car is closed, there is NO smell in the kitchen

And who washes their typewriter how? Specials only means or how? Please share.
On the inside of my door, a brownish (even some kind of golden) coating has formed. I'm going to launder, so I think, what's better?

[Elena]

Elena, everything goes well with the help of a steam cleaner.

Galina, thanks! I'll have to try.

Please tell me how to fix the nightmare. The dishwasher is two years old. I constantly use Finish. salt, conditioner, powder, washing with a tablet 4-5 times a month. I clean the machine regularly. Everything was perfect. For the third wash, the dishes are white, strong, salty. with each wash, the plaque increases. Settings did not change, the funds are all the same, nothing new was given to her. Tell me, please teach me what to do?

Straight salty, have you tried it? I had a time when the dishes were covered with a white coating, but this is because the salt ran out long ago, and the water is hard. There was plaque on the gel and powder, but there was almost no plaque on the tablet.

But you obviously have something else ... And the "multitabs" button was not accidentally pressed?

[Lena]

Lena, Salty, very !!!! tried it. On dry dishes, the plaque cannot be erased with a finger, I washed it by hand, the plaque is gone. I missed all the dishes for three cycles just on rinsing, it became more salty. She burst into tears. Salt, rinse aid are full, the indicators are off. I have no multitabs buttons. Plaque from both powder and tablets. What to do, how to cure my Cinderella. The raid appeared at the bottom, closer to the door. What is it then?

Is the lid on the salt container screwed on well, does it leak?
With such a colossal consumption, the salt should quickly run out. (Plus, even a stainless steel is dangerous to be in a salty environment. But what kind of car, though?

Simple reasons:
- out of salt to soften the water (add salt);
- poor quality rinse aid (try replacing the rinse aid with rinse aid of another brand / manufacturer);
- low-quality dishwasher detergent in the form of 3-in-1 tablets (also try replacing).

Reasons of moderate difficulty:
- the dishwasher requires cleaning (do a dry start using a special dishwasher cleaner). It is recommended to do this cleaning at least once every six months;
- filters are clogged (check filters).

Complex reason:
- the water hardness sensor is out of order (here the service specialists will help you).

in your case, most likely the latter. call the master, maybe the whole machine can rust from salt

The lid is closed tightly. I checked the filling of the salt with a barely finger. I poured it to the neck. I rinsed it, it became more salty. Typewriter Veko 1530. Everything is on display. The filters are clean, I clean them regularly. Mine is only 60 grams. A terrible feeling that everything is serious. There is no way to summon the master in the next couple of months .... I still lacked that. Thank you very much for responding

[Olga y]

Complex reason:
- the sensor for determining the water hardness is out of order (here the service specialists will help you).

Yeah. In Beko.

Even Boschach-Siemens does not have it, but in Beko it is right on every corner.))

Olga y, if the machine is poisoning salt, then in vain you added it. ((You just had to wait until it washes it all out and switch completely to the tablets so that salt was not necessary.

So the machine can tell if you are washing with tablets or powder if there is no button?

[Lena]

Lena, ufff, just a breath of air was given. I had to sleep in vain, I realized when I got such an effect. But you can somehow, scoop out this salt, so that you can interrupt on tablets, or even then switch to them? Although yesterday I washed on the Finish tablet, the plaque was not so strong. Maybe from the fact that my salt is scalding. So, how to scoop out the salt is a task.

I don't know how to get it out - the bunker is deep. Well, you can try with some ladle to choose what you get. Put it in a jar, close it and do not throw it away yet.)) At least wash the remains, at least throw it away. And the main thing is to set the stiffness to the lowest possible value (ideally zero) to see what happens.

In theory, in a working machine, salt simply should not enter the chamber - it is not intended for washing, but only exclusively for regeneration, when a saturated saline solution rinses the ion exchanger and then drains into the sewer. The ion exchanger itself after that, it seems, is also rinsed once with clean water to wash out the remaining solution.

By setting the hardness indicator to zero, you inform the machine that it does not need to turn on regeneration - either the water is very soft, or you wash with tablets that already have additional softening of the water.

You can also screw on the rinse for experiments to see what comes of it. There is nothing to be afraid of, all these are standard operating conditions - when washing with tablets, rinse aid and softening are usually not required. The exception is extremely hard water. Then yes, some hardness value is set for partial softening.

And further. The regeneration cycle does not take place every wash. Therefore, the processes may not change immediately.

[Lena]

Lena, Thank you very much!!! I will do everything as written, then I will try to drive out the empty sink. I will definitely unsubscribe. Another thing is worrying now. Will this breakdown bring another surprise. I will definitely write!

Something I was completely confused, confused. The first thing I did was check the salt. Yesterday I filled it up to the neck, today it is empty. The spoon is deeply felt, but it will not work to choose it. Okay, let it be. Found instructions. There is no way to set it to zero, that zero, that the first level, which I had, you need to set one value. Just in case, I reinstalled everything again. I put an empty car on the sink, then wash everything with my hands. I will drive an empty car today, how many times I can, I need to wash everything, get rid of the salt. As soon as I understand that the water is without salt, I will already wash the dishes with the pill. I have a Voros, if the washing is only with a pill, there will be no salt in the machine, the rinse aid also needs to be turned off, can there be any stains or plaque? Although, you probably need to watch how it shows. And can I use half a tablet. I read that they will be half, but I'm afraid the machine will be without salt at all. Half a tablet will not be enough for the machine itself? When I was choosing a typewriter, I read the topic, now I don't really remember anything. One thing I realized is that you can't go without salt! so I'm afraid.

Good afternoon everyone! Can you please tell me, when the machine is running, are there any sounds from it, except for the noise of water? I can clearly hear how the pump works, just like that, hey-hey. This is normal? Or is it worth worrying? I just use a typewriter for a couple of months and I don't know if it's right?
P.s PMM Siemens. The dishes are washed perfectly. I lay out the dishes correctly, before turning on I check if it interferes with the rocker arms. But besides this, hey-hey, nothing bothers

I can clearly hear how the pump works, just like that, hey-hey. This is normal? Or is it worth worrying? I just use a typewriter for a couple of months and I don't know if it's right?

Yes, she seems to make different noise at different times. At the very beginning, yes, like that, hey-hey, then the tonality changes, then again it starts to make a different noise, draining the water. And so on. By the way, this sound may not be a pump sound at all. And the sound of the noise of jets hitting the dishes and walls. Try to run it empty - the noise will become even more prominent. )) And the rhythm is from the reversal of the feed arms, which wash the walls in turn.)

I have a Voros, if the washing is only with a pill, there will be no salt in the machine, the rinse aid also needs to be turned off, can there be any stains or plaque? Although, you probably need to watch how it shows. And can I use half a tablet.I read that they will be half, but I'm afraid the machine will be without salt at all. Half a tablet will not be enough for the machine itself?

Wait to guess.)) The machine is actually faulty. First, teach her to just wash something acceptable. And then they immediately hit the economy of detergents. ((

[Lena]

Lena, Thank you very much!!! I will do everything as written, then I will try to drive out the empty sink. I will definitely unsubscribe. Another thing is worrying now. Will this breakdown bring another surprise. I will definitely write!

maybe you still need to call the master, they don’t take a lot of money for the call, or call the hotline, sometimes you can get a sensible answer?

[Lena]

Lena, Thank you very much!!! I will do everything as written, then I will try to drive out the empty sink. I will definitely unsubscribe. Another thing is worrying now. Will this breakdown bring another surprise. I will definitely write!

BEKO hotline

8 800 200 23 56

[Bijou]

Bijou, thanks, I will continue to listen.

[alenka_volga]

Messages stopped coming, I thought quietly here. Having calmed down, I realized for sure that you shouldn't use the machine in this state. Everyone, let him stand, rest until better times.
alenka_volga, Lena, thank you very much! It didn't even occur to me to look for a number. I called there today, the verdict is the master, and they gave the telephone number ser. center in our city. But, nevertheless, I asked if it was possible to use only tablets without filling the containers with salt and rinse aid. They answer that it is possible without rinse, but there should be salt in the machine. I called the service, call the master and diagnostics 1750, which is not expensive, and then the diagnostics will show which part will be replaced and the payment for the part itself. If it is not available, they will order it, you just need to wait a little. These are our things. Thanks to everyone who responded, everything just piled up like that. here it carried me. Thank you!

[alenka_volga]

Messages stopped coming, I thought quietly here. Having calmed down, I realized for sure that you shouldn't use the machine in this state. Everyone, let him stand, rest until better times.
alenka_volga, Lena, thank you very much! It didn't even occur to me to look for a number. I called there today, the verdict is the master, and they gave the telephone number ser. center in our city. But, nevertheless, I asked if it was possible to use only tablets without filling the containers with salt and rinse aid. They answer that it is possible without rinse, but there should be salt in the machine. I called the service, call the master and diagnostics 1750, which is not expensive, and then the diagnostics will show which part will be replaced and the payment for the part itself. If it is not available, they will order it, you just need to wait a little. These are our things. Thanks to everyone who responded, everything just piled up like that. here it carried me. Thank you!

God forbid that the breakdown was scanty! and diagnostics are even a little expensive ... although it's cheap now ...

[Olya]

Olya,

It was in the introductory conditions!

There is no way to call the masters in the next couple of months ...

From there, solutions were proposed. Once you can't get a master.

And now, then?

phoned there today, the verdict is the master, and gave the telephone number ser. center in our city.

but there should be salt in the machine.

I hope they themselves understand why, even if they cannot explain to others.

Happy renovation!

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lena. and no way yet. That's why I left her, let her rest, wash something with some pills like that ...: drinks_milk: and it is not known what she has there ..

alenka_volga, yes, how much now that detail will pull out, only my uncle will say.