Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

Friends, is it possible to independently repair the PMM door? Today a loud bang was heard (no one touched the car at that moment) and now the door is not fixed in a slightly open position. When opening it, you have to hold it with your hand so that it does not fall under its own weight. Looks like a wire break?

[Galya13]

Galya13, Hello! We had a similar situation. My husband has a device for checking the voltage in the network. Measured - 180. Then there is a long story with statements and walks "in agony".
Found a way out. I put off washing the dishes at night. All the rules at once.
I think if there is no way to check the voltage, try to do the same. At night, the tension rises and you will immediately understand this matter or not.



I have a different problem. For some time now, the rinse aid is poorly washed off, but not from all the dishes, but only from the one that stands next to the tray - spoons, forks.
Something worries me
Maybe someone knows? Tell me please.

Irina 742, used to launch it at night, and there were all the rules, but here ((, but my assistant seems to have worked, so it is clear that the matter is still in tension

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, The spring could burst or come off.

For some time now, the rinse aid is poorly washed off, but not from all the dishes, but only from the one that stands next to the tray - spoons, forks.

Check the rocker arms and filter for cleanliness.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Thank you! I will definitely check everything again. I don’t know anything about the rocker arms, I’ll look.

4 min 20 sec - salt and ion exchanger

It is worth going to YouTube and reading the comments.

The hostess basically almost does not clean the dishes before placing them in the PMM, does not use rinse aid - surfactants and is harmful, uses biogels, which, according to reviews, do not cleanse fat so well, and believes that water circulates through this filter during washing and is used more than once for washing.
Although, if she thinks, and she is not alone, perhaps she is, then it is more logical to clean the dishes as best as possible before placing them in the PMM.




Good advice. Mastering my hmm. A miracle was also expected - put the plates and no hassle. Although, according to user reviews, it requires a lot of attention to its personality.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, Alexander, found under the dishwasher. Is this a cable?

On the other hand, this part with a rope is also visible, but it does not pull out of the MRP.

[Manya]

ManyaLooks like my door is actually spring loaded.

[Alexander]

Alexander, called the service. They said that the mechanism of cables and springs is included in the kit and changes completely.

Hello, I have been the happy owner of Bosch dishwasher for three days now. However, I always had problems with the technique. Somehow I figured out how to set the water hardness. Now I can't figure out how to switch programs. Literally according to the instructions, press the power button, the Eco program indicator will blink, and switch with the <> buttons, but the problem is that I press the power button, and the indicator does not flash, it lights up evenly, I press more and less, and nothing switches. I have already called the manufacturer's website, they say we give any advice on operation. No, they don't! Lies. And I still can't figure out the detergents. If, for example, a 2-in-one product, do I need to add rinse aid? Right now, under a microscope, I studied Finish, a set that was put in when buying, and nothing is written on the packaging, how to use it - not a word at all. Direct punishment of some kind. Very sad. Then another problem: where there is a filter, somewhere with half a glass of water does not go away. This is normal? Brand Bosh SMV 23AX00R | 48

[HelenaAlex]

HelenaAlex, well, the instructions seem to be clearly written that when the dishwasher is turned on, the ecco 50 program will be on by default if you do not select another one, say, turn on the dishwasher from a simple one, the ecco is already set and press start, close the door until it clicks, the machine should start




about the water in the filter half a glass is normal




perhaps you have already pressed something and the program seems to have been selected so nothing can be changed, try resetting the program, you need to open the door, press and hold the start / start button for 3 seconds, the indicators should go out, and usually the water pumping motor is still running like pumped out water.

Combined detergents for PMM include changing the settings for the amount of salt and / or rinse aid. Otherwise, the indicators will light up.

Last year, our PM ARDO stopped washing the top shelf, the rocker did not turn. The services said that ARDO no longer exists and there are no spare parts. The reason was that the bushing collapsed, where (I do not know how to call it correctly) the water supply fitting to the upper basket (shelf) enters. Traveled all the plumbing shops, trying to find something suitable. As a result, they cut off a piece of the hose, put it on, and it all worked. It's just that now I push the basket closer every time, since the hose is not as soft and elastic as my own sleeve.

[HelenaAlex]

HelenaAlex, well, the instructions seem to be clearly written that when the dishwasher is turned on, the ecco 50 program will be on by default if you do not select another one, say, turn on the dishwasher from a simple one, the ecco is already set and press start, close the door until it clicks, the machine should start




about the water in the filter half a glass is normal




perhaps you have already pressed something and the program seems to have been selected so nothing can be changed, try resetting the program, you need to open the door, press and hold the start / start button for 3 seconds, the indicators should go out, and usually the water pumping motor is still running like pumped out water.

Thank you very much for the quick response. Yes, I figured it out myself, it is clearly said, you press the start button, the car does not change the settings after that. There was no need to click on it. So you turn it on and look carefully at the eco blinks, press <> and the light ran. Turned on normally.

Combined detergents for PMM include changing the settings for the amount of salt and / or rinse aid. Otherwise, the indicators will light up.

Here, too, this moment is not entirely clear to a beginner. Salt and pills were handed over when buying Salt falling asleep for 1 month may be enough. And the tablets are 2 in one, already with salt "What to do in this case? While the salt does not soak, use solo means. When you use tablets, you can not pour salt? Is it necessary to use a rinse aid? And if the remedy is 3 water. 5 in one , wait for the salt and rinse aid to run out?

I added both salt and rinse aid first, since I washed it for a long time with a mono-powder (by the way, a penny Sanit from Ashan, sorry, disappeared ...). I tried different pills, and IVF, and neeko, one hell, sorry ...
Again my powders.
Although, now I thought, perhaps the result was worse due to excess salt and rinse aid? ..

My primitive knowledge in chemistry says that salt is just salt, how can it wash badly because of it? And an excess of rinsing agent, I read that it can give foam, this is probably not very good for a machine. But one thing is clear to me that the manufacturer now writes disgusting instructions, even for a dishwasher, at least for a detergent. Gone are the days when the manufacturer wrote in the instructions for the microwave: do not dry the animals for fear of multimillion-dollar litigation.

My primitive knowledge in chemistry says that salt is just salt, how can it wash badly because of it?

Because the water hardness will depend on the presence of salt and the regeneration settings.If there are not enough softeners in the detergent, then washing will be worse (God bless her, that chemistry, but remember how difficult it is to soap in hard water and how little detergent is needed when washing in soft water) or the powder consumption should be much more than recommended.

There are more softeners in tablets, therefore, if the water hardness is below average, the water can not be softened at all.
If the water is soft, you can live without salt at all. Because over-softened (although the term is not very correct) water, coupled with a hot program, will quickly destroy glassware.

We brought Hans' ppm to the village. And there the water is super hot. After washing, everything is clean, but white. And a machine and dishes. We bought it b. at. and how to adjust the salt in it is unclear. It is necessary to the maximum.

Nastya, on my car it is regulated like this, copied from the instructions. Model ZWM646

[Turn on the machine with the button
Standby (door closed).
Within 60 seconds from the moment the
press the Start /
Pause and hold for more than 5 seconds (when
the indicator will flash alternately.
salt and rinse aid).
During these 5 seconds, select a dose
water hardness
in your region by clicking the button
Start / Pause. Every button press
switches to the following mode: H1-
H2-H3-H4-H5-H6.
To complete the selection, click on
Standby button or do not
koy operation within 5 seconds.
For very hard water H6spoiler]

Faced a problem. The indicator lit up that the salt ran out, fell asleep, almost the entire pack, like the first time. It burns again the next day, again I slept, today it burns again. After all, the first time a pack of salt was enough for a month. Although I don't remember exactly how much salt I fell asleep. But, this time it poured until the water was already displaced from there. Is it possible that something has broken, why does it not show that the salt is filled up, more precisely, when it fell asleep it goes out, and the next day it lights up again. Has anyone faced such a problem? PMM BOSH smv 23AX00R | 48
And I also want to ask if there should be water in the salt container. The first time it was said that yes, pour a little water, then pour salt. Now the container is full of water, and at the bottom there are salt granules. Maybe the first time it was the other way around - a lot of salt and a little water? I don’t remember something, but for almost 2 and a half months the salt indicator did not light up.

fell asleep, almost the entire pack, as the first time. It burns again the next day, again I slept, today it burns again
...
Now the container is full of water, and at the bottom there are salt granules.

you need to pour in as much salt as will fit, moreover, you need to gently stir it with something (I used a Chinese stick), helping the salt to fall below until it is filled to capacity. Then start rinsing to rinse the remaining salt from the bottom of the machine.

should there be water in the salt container

Yes

you need to pour in as much salt as will fit, moreover, you need to gently stir it with something (I used a Chinese stick), helping the salt to fall below until it is filled to capacity. Then start rinsing to rinse the remaining salt from the bottom of the machine. Yes

An incomplete pack of 750 gr. But why is the indicator on? Why doesn't he see that I was pouring salt. There is still a little left in the pack. I'll empty it all tomorrow. Maybe he (the indicator) did not "get" that the salt was filled?

did not "get it"

rather - the salt did not sink to the bottom ... and see how your salt consumption is configured. The harder the water, the more and faster the salt is consumed.
I don't remember how much it took me, but a lot. I fell asleep to the eyeballs. I have a package - 4 kg.

rather - the salt did not sink to the bottom ... and see how your salt consumption is configured. The harder the water, the more and faster the salt is consumed.
I don't remember how much it took me, but a lot. I fell asleep to the eyeballs. I have a package - 4 kg.

And when you poured the salt, the water was completely displaced?
Whoa! 4 kg.Maybe you have a bigger machine? For the first time on August 20, somewhere I fell asleep 750 gr. Enough until October 30. In principle, normal.

I specially bought a large rubber bulb at the pharmacy for the dishwasher and keep it in a drawer with household chemicals. With this pear, I choose as much as possible all the water from the PMM container. I pour a new portion of salt and only then add water. That's when my Bosch sees salt.

water displaced

Yes

4 kg

Yplon dishwasher salt, in a lilac box

Maybe you have a bigger machine?

No, tabletop SKS62E22EU for 6 sets
By the way, Bosch's website says that the serial number label is glued on top of the door ... This is a lie, it is not there:

in fact: the label is glued to the left side of the door!

I specially bought a large rubber bulb at the pharmacy for the dishwasher

I bought a proprietary funnel for filling salt, but I don’t scoop out the water, because the machine is in operation in a heated room (kitchen).

So I choose water with a pear in a non-working state for 5 minutes, so that more salt will enter the container.

so that more salt will enter the container

a Chinese stick or sauce spoon can achieve the same result. But here - as it is more convenient to whom. If you pour salt into water, then it fills the space easier and faster. Draining the salt compartment makes sense only when the machine is completely disconnected from the water supply and electrical network, or when the machine is preserved for storage.
I open the lid, insert the funnel, pour salt, stirring in the neck, help the salt to fall into the depths, add more and help again, and repeat this until the salt fills the compartment "to capacity." Then I take out the funnel, close the lid and start rinsing. That's it: the machine is fed, the salt has been washed out from the bottom of the tank, the dishes can be washed.

Maybe there is some kind of relyushka "stuck"? .. Although, of course, strange, it seemed to me that the machine is new.
I had a similar situation with the compartment for the detergent: it opened almost at the end or did not open at all. It turned out that there was some kind of solenoid, something was stuck and the signal to open was not received. The problem was solved by a run with anti-scale and several forced openings and closings.
In your case, it's more difficult ... HZ, how to get there ..

a Chinese stick or sauce spoon can achieve the same result. But here - as it is more convenient to whom. If you pour salt into water, then it fills the space easier and faster. Draining the salt compartment makes sense only when the machine is completely disconnected from the water supply and electrical network, or when the machine is preserved for storage.
I open the lid, insert the funnel, pour salt, stirring in the neck, help the salt to fall into the depths, add more and help again, and repeat this until the salt fills the compartment "to capacity." Then I take out the funnel, close the lid and start rinsing. That's it: the machine is fed, the salt has been washed out from the bottom of the tank, the dishes can be washed.

I want to clarify "to the eyeballs" how to determine if there is water? I filled in almost the entire pack (750 g), and poured it in until water began to splash out of the compartment. Then she joked with a wooden stick and realized that the salt at the bottom had not yet dissolved, and the rest was a saline solution.

Yplon dishwasher salt, lilac box No, tabletop SKS62E22EU for 6 sets
By the way, on the Bosch website it is written that the label with the serial number is glued on top of the door ... This is a lie, it is not there:
in fact: the label is glued to the left side of the door! I bought a proprietary funnel for filling salt, but I don’t scoop out the water, because the machine is in operation in a heated room (kitchen).

It's amazing that such a small machine contains 4 kg of salt.

[Bijou]

"to the eyeballs" how to determine if there is water?

it is no longer possible to pour in, even by pushing ... Analog: pouring cereal into a bottle / can.

includes 4 kg of salt

no, of course, much less is included, but I'm pouring from a large pack, so I won't tell you "a lot or a little" you poured ... Most likely not enough.
That's Bijou writes:

Usually about a kilogram is included in an empty bin. And salt is often packed up by one and a half, I always throw up with the leftovers. (

I remembered: for the first time they fell asleep from a small pack (years ago, I don't remember either the brand or the weight of the package) - there were two not very large packages, and so, one package was not enough, and two were many. I guess I had that salt, as described Bijou: 2 bags of 0.75 in a 1.5 kg pack ...

I pour salt, stirring in the neck, I help the salt to fall into the depths

and I never interfere, the salt itself falls through if you pour in small doses, I just slightly turn the funnel, clockwise and counterclockwise ... there is never salt at the bottom, it is too large and does not dust ... about a kilogram, (0, 7 - 0.8), enough for 9-10 months ... Although, now I use powder, before that - tablets, but I always add salt and rinse aid For the first time, I remember, I decided to check whether the factory settings would work, before adjusting the hardness ... they came up, and I didn't change anything, so I use German ... it looks like the water is equally bad

The first time, I remember, I decided to check if the factory settings were ok before adjusting the hardness ...

in Moscow it is easier: the data can be viewed on the vodokanal's website by entering your address [, and using them to set the desired value (I did so).
We mainly use tablets, because the machine is half-sized, usually filtering ... Therefore, we do not always fill in rinse aid. The salt is always adjusted and filled.

do not always fill in rinse aid

Once, I didn’t fill it, I ran out of stock, I didn’t have time to buy it ... the dishes were not washed as usual ... the machine is full-sized, maybe it requires more, but I don’t always load it completely ... but for what I appreciate: it is pushed into it any size of pots and even a smokehouse with a water seal

I didn't have time to buy ... the dishes were not washed as usual ...

in tablets - everything is there, but you have powder, that's why it's critical ...

I don't always load it completely ...

and we, ours, rarely load completely ...

you have powder

alas, at that time, I used the pills, and they are now available, this is the powder I'm testing

before adjusting the hardness ... they came up, and I didn't change anything, so I use German ... it looks like the water is equally bad

but I had to reconfigure .. I almost threw the car away ... until I found out

I used pills

unfortunately, not all pills are equally good ... Somehow they bought a vertex ("for the sake of a box specially for pills") - it's just thrown away money - they don't wash from the word "absolutely".

I agree, but I came across more or less normal ones, at first I bought in METRO, but that was 10 years ago, and then they raised the price and had to try others, with an adequate price and acceptable washing ... there are boxes on the edge: Frau Schmidt und
Ciean at home, the rest ... outside the access zone, you need to climb the ladder ... plushkin, I'm still the one ... if it comes across at a good price, I carry everything "in a heap" ... the main thing is not to forget what is there in stock

Girls, I do not pour, I use tablets, after a case when the rinse aid for some reason leaked out (apparently a marriage in the PMM) and corroded the coating, the enamel at the bottom gathered like an accordion. I tried it several times, and it all follows ... that now we are on pills. already 10 years and know the problems.

I want to clarify "to the eyeballs" how to determine if there is water?

In terms of?? The water is poured out, the salt remains. They poured a slide - leveled it with a stick or finger - screwed on the lid - turned on the rinsing or washing program.

Today he asks for salt again. I think that for the first time I still filled in two packs of salt, i.e. 1.5 kg. And this time exactly half. tomorrow an order from Ozone will come, I will fill in another pack. Let's see then. Yesterday I finished sleeping, she stopped winking.
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About rigidity.
I had a tester for measuring the hardness of water, you put a strip of paper in water and orange squares appear depending on the hardness, the amount is different. Our tap water is very hard, so it is set to maximum. I've read that hardness testers can be bought.
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About funds
I originally used the Magic Power tablets came in a set for 190 rubles 30 pcs. Then I decided to buy the Finish powder, I thought it would be cheaper, but a kilogram was enough for me exactly for a month, well, I don't know, maybe I added a lot. When a tablespoon, when a teaspoon. There are pills for every fireman. But it says on the tablet that if the water is very hard. then the salt must be sprinkled. Now the order is made of powder (2.5 kg) + rinse aid + PMM detergent = 1400 rubles

[rigidity]

a tester for measuring the hardness of water, dip a strip of paper in water and squares appear

this tester is very approximate + the strips are sensitive to conditions and shelf life.
If rigidity water exceeds 21 ° dH (37 ° fH, 26 ° Clarke, 3.7 mmol / l), then in this case, when using tablets and / or capsules, it does not matter necessary use and rinse aid!

Our tap water is very hard, so it is set to maximum.

Clear. That is, the regeneration works every wash. Therefore, the salt flies away with the speed of a whistle.))
By the way, with tablets, this level of regeneration is clearly excessive, the middle is enough. Now, if you suddenly find white efflorescence on the dishes, then you will add salt consumption in the settings. The machine will not deteriorate from this, do not worry - adding regeneration from the resin will wash off the calcium that has settled on it and replace it with sodium. Maybe not the first time, but it will be so. Our water is really hard, because it flows through limestone - any root and twig in the stream is immediately covered with a limestone shell. And then I had to keep the car for half a year without salt at all, before the dishes turned very white.))

The problem was solved. Yes, thanks for the advice. Today the order came. I fed the machine with salt (I poured it until the compartment was full to the eyeballs). It doesn't seem to flash. You can of course try to reduce the settings, but I think, okay. The water is actually hard - if I water or spray the flowers, then a white bloom remains. And I bought the Finish powder 2.5 kg, I'll see how economical it is to use the powder, I put the date on the bank.

You can of course try to reduce the settings, but I think, okay. The water is actually hard

Well, it's a master's business.)) Moreover, you will wash it with powder. If you suddenly find a sharply dimmed glass or rainbow stains, then it's time to lower the settings. It is good that the problem was solved and you did not get to the "false call of the master".

Well, it's a master's business.)) Moreover, you will wash it with powder. If you suddenly find a sharply dimmed glass or rainbow stains, then it's time to lower the settings. It is good that the problem was solved and you did not get to the "false call of the master".

What else happens?

[HelenaAlex]

HelenaAlex, do you have a photo? I have them!



Oh, or are we talking about masters? Of course it does. If the master poured salt and the indicator went out, the "false call" would have to be paid.

[HelenaAlex]

HelenaAlex, do you have a photo? I have them!



Oh, or are we talking about masters? Of course it does. If the master poured salt and the indicator went out, the "false call" would have to be paid.

The first time, I came to connect for an hour at the phone, staring while checking the machine, no instructions, neither how to turn it on, nor how to set it up. But I got revenge! I got a call from a girl-manager from the company that connected and I told her everything I think about such masters!

Again a problem arose. I accidentally clicked the wrong program, I could not cancel, the indicator did not move at all with arrows.And turned off from the network and turned off the button - no, does it reset the erroneously installed program? Maybe there is a secret? Whisper magic word?