Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

There is no rinse aid, he washed, I’m with an open soap box.

No, I haven't washed it with tablets yet. I haven't bought it yet. Maybe today I'll get out for them.

[Mams]

MamsWell, let's see ... It's better to ask a couple of friends from your friends than to buy a whole box. Well, how do you not like it?
I've already rummaged through a lot of information in search of resin properties. Well, that6y exclude the option that when it degrades it breaks up into something like that, difficult to wash off.))) It seems that nothing came across. Well, yes, it chemically and physically breaks down, requires additional filling or renewal, but what such consequences could have caused - I did not see.

6lin, right at least pour lemon instead of rinse, but this is 6red ... ((

No, well, lemon is horror, of course. I won't risk the lemon for sure. Okay, wait, the guys-technicians will come, they can say something clever.
I will still try to dig the site that DrNo gave, run the test program, what it says.

There is a factory 4ka, reduced to 3x. Let's see if it can improve the situation.

On the contrary, salt must be added, so that more of it is spent on the regeneration of the ion exchanger.
I have a service manual only on SGS53, the one with a rotary knob, otherwise they are the same.

On the contrary, salt must be added so that more of it is spent on the regeneration of the ion exchanger.
I have a service manual only on SGS53, the one with a rotary knob, otherwise they are the same.

Thank you, now I'll twist the salt for her. I'll try 5k. Is there a manual? Well, let it be, just in case ...

You can, throw the address of the electric current in a personal.

I saw a good article about problem situations when washing dishes in PMM and ways to solve them 🔗

[Snusmumrik]

So my husband brought in a box of pills. Soap twice. The walls are shiny as new. The dishes are washed perfectly. We continue the experiment. Usually I didn’t take a shower once a week, recently - once every three to four days. Let's see what is called. How will it go next ...

Snusmumrik , Thank you.

Well. Three days on soap tablets is excellent. Today is the fourth ... Everything is as usual - white bloom on glass glasses ... Here I don't know at all what to do with it ...

I have not started the software check yet. It is necessary to do it in the morning, with a fresh mind. On Sunday I will try ....

Good day! a month ago, it finally became the owner of a PPM - Bosch SPV 58M50. Washes perfectly everything except stainless steel. The water is hard, the salt is 6 out of 7. Rinse aid by 4 out of 7. I tried to decrease the rinse aid by 1 - the result did not change, stains, drips on the stainless steel, and now deposits in the form of white grains, which are erased with effort, appeared on the rivets of the pan handles ((and in general, the whole stainless steel as darkened What it can be How and what should be regulated? Please tell me!

Have you read the instructions for the PMM, which says which dishes can be washed there and which not?
here's another topic about washing dishes tyts here

[Nugira]

Nugira, straight on all-all stainless steel? Do you wash with what? We also have very hard water, I don't think yours is worse. Salt is always at 4, and now it is not at all, because more often I use all-in-one means, gels or tablets.

It gets dark in the dishwasher, I have only one stainless saucepan, from the inexpensive ones. Sometimes even bluish stains appear on it. I pay no attention.)

The grains on the rivets are the result of the decomposition of aluminum, this kind of aluminum rivets are just installed on inexpensive dishes. And aluminum dissolves in an alkaline environment.And the softer the water in the sink, the higher the temperature and the more aggressive the detergent, the shorter its life will be, just like glass.

Hence the conclusion, do not buy dishes with riveted handles.

of course. I studied the instructions. You can use a stainless steel. The pan also has an icon allowing washing in pmm. Casserole from the ikea 365+ series (already with a 15-year warranty)

thanks, I'll try to reduce the salt. On the contrary, I increased it. All products finish - powder + salt + rinse aid

Hence the conclusion, do not buy dishes with riveted handles.

Well, Duc is self-co6oy!)) Riveted handles are an excellent indicator of an unimportant manufacturer who does not know how (or does not want) to weld handles. Or they are placed on thin dishes (I have a couple of such unnamed pots from ancient times), because it is impossible to weld on such a thin wall. Well, the thin one is certainly not the top line.))

Although in nature, like 6y, there are stainless steel rivets, but I have not yet met with my own eyes on pans.

Ah, Ikea ... These are dishes like that, don’t believe it. 6 will bloom anyway. Well, try to smear it with a lemon for experience, or something, it might brighten ...
This is a reaction of a bad metal to a hot alkaline environment.

I had no rivets on my knives at all in 10 years, I had to put them out of stainless steel as the cheeks fell off on the handles. Zepter knives. Well now not to wash something. Technical stainless steel really darkens in the dishwasher, food - no.

I have not had rivets on my knives at all in 10 years,

Whoa! Save6o. And then I scare people only with theoretical conjectures when I say that, they say, it will completely dissolve over time, but from real users with such experience you are the first.
(I immediately remembered the anecdote, they say, who has a new Mercedes, he lives well, and who has an old one, he has been living well for a long time)

But I myself do not try to put these riveted pots into the dishes every time - pots of 6 and 10 liters, it's a pity to throw them out if it starts to leak under the rivets. ((

One or two pots can be washed with handles, which I am doing, nothing seems to have "peeled off"

Duc and I'm talking about that!

One or two pots can be washed with handles, which I am doing, nothing seems to have "peeled off"

Oh, and to me in scrap ...

and scrap me

and scrap me

Sister!

One or two pots can be washed with handles, which I am doing, nothing seems to have "peeled off"

All pots and pans are needed - no aluminum. Clay dishes have already been replaced for a long time. Almost everything has been reworked. The machine since 99, during this time it has already come to automatism what to shove there and what not. Pans ceramics fisman handles and change every two years. There were wool with titanium enough for 4 years, but the price.
Now, the truth is, the question arose about new knives (they require serious repair of the RK), so I'm thinking of splurging on zvilings or buying a centuri tramontina and washing it in a typewriter as before. Europeans (in shape) fit better in my hand. The Japanese are the same, with wood, sharpening them on stone, dreary.

Earlier I was also against the dishwasher, I thought: "Can't I wash the dishes myself?" And when I stayed with my sister for a week, my opinion changed dramatically! We washed the dishes only in the evenings. They put it down, pressed the buttons and that's it - to drink tea. Then they took out the dishes, they were clean and shiny. My sister also used sun pills - the smell is just awesome! So I decided to go back home and buy myself a typewriter. Now only in her and my everything!

Good day! Tell me please, can anyone have it and how to solve this problem? My ppm is only a little over a month old, and a red bloom appeared on spoons and some plates. If you rub it with a napkin, it is erased and the spoons begin to shine. The water is very soft, salt 1, conditioner 2-3, wash powder 65 * and conditioner finish.

I have the same problem, yellowish coating on some dishes .. maybe someone knows where the dog is buried ??

People! Save! Help! The machine stopped heating the water, and does not dry, instead of drying E09, well, what did this ten need? Is she only 3 months old? Will you need to replace the shade in the scolbot? It is very expensive? Siemens machine sn24d270ru

So you should still have it under warranty, because it is only 3 months old. I think they will repair it for free.

In order for the gorantia to work, it was necessary that they connect it themselves, and so they say there is no guarantee

[marisabelka]

marisabelkaThis does not affect the warranty, the connection is an imposed service, you can do it yourself, maybe the service is your right, if the arguments do not help, contact the authorized service. If this does not help, contact Rospotrebnadzor, they will tell you what to do.

It might be worth changing the dishwashing detergent? I had such a problem before, but as I began to use sun all in 1 tablets, all the problems disappeared. Plaque, oily sheen and unpleasant odor - I just forgot about them !!!

It might be worth changing the dishwashing detergent? Have

How can pills help fix ten?
Warranty service. And last year my son and a friend fixed the ten themselves. But I have no guarantee for a long time

Will you need to replace the shade in the scolbot? It is very expensive?

There is no heating element and it will be very expensive. There is a flow heater that changes with the pump.

The service has no right to impose a connection to provide a guarantee. Except for the case when it was the wrong connection that caused a breakdown. Tell them that before that there was just another dishwasher, they all have the same connection - just put on one brass nut. And what, for such a one-minute business to call the service?

Girls, help me in my trouble, in the dishwasher the filter is constantly in the opposite of such fat, this should not be the same? My sister's is clean, just like new, although he uses it much more often. And in general, it is not good at washing glass dishes, some kind of cloudy. I thought about something with ten, since the fat stays on the filter, because the water is not cold, no, I checked it is hot. The machine is in the village, it is very expensive to call a master, maybe someone had this? Help me, my hands drop straight, I want crystal clear dishes!

Do you clean the plates before putting them in the PMM? In any case, the filter should at least be washed once a month, since the water in the PMM heats up to a maximum of 60-65-70 degrees, and the fat does not dissolve at this temperature ...

in the dishwasher, the filter is constantly in the opposite of such fat, this should not be the same?

It depends on what programs you use ... If fast or short, then this is normal, the water temperature there is low and fat can clog filters and pipes. It is necessary to turn on the intensive more often (or what is the high-temperature program called in your PMM?), Then both the filter and pipes will be regularly washed.

[Anyuta]

In any case, the filter should at least be washed once a month, since the water in the PMM heats up to a maximum of 60-65-70 degrees, and the fat does not dissolve at this temperature ...

Anyuta, for 12 years of using the PMM filter, I washed only a couple of times and then for the sake of prevention. Favorite program AUTO - 65 degrees. The temperature is sufficient, moreover, the main component in detergents is alkali, it dissolves fats. I never rinse the plates from the remnants of food, I only make sure that there are no large pieces, and the PMM itself perfectly washes the various gravies and sauces. On all programs, except for the short one, I have a preliminary rinsing, so there is no need to clean the plate itself.

[ksyusha1997]

ksyusha1997, and what kind of cars are we talking about? Well, which washes cleanly, and which quickly overgrows with fat?

I also think that grease remains on the filters for three reasons - initially there was a lot of it on the pans; there is too little detergent to break down this amount of fat; the program is not long enough and not hot enough for all the fat to react with the detergent.

Girls, thank you all for your help, both me and my sister BOSH have a typewriter, I don’t remember the model for memory, I have a big one, my sister has a narrow one. Mine is always on the Auto program, there is also a hotter one, now I will try it, I began to pour more powder, almost a full compartment, well, or a pill, I don't put especially dirty plates ...

[Oksana]

Oksana, it is clear that nothing is clear.)) I also have Bosch, and the filters are often bold too. Although I almost always sprinkle the powder on the front wash, so that the first washed off fat does not immediately settle on all the machine plastic. But my water is very hard. And the settings are set, not too softening it. Because there is a lot of glass among the dishes, but it becomes cloudy from soft water and becomes covered with a rainbow. I think that the payment for this is the monthly cleaning of the filters. True, it does not bother me very much - I pissed off with an alkaline agent and spent it with a washcloth, business.))

Occasionally I wash an empty car with either a special product, or a couple of tablets, or a grease washer. Well, sometimes lemon, since the water is hard, where can we do without it. ((Before pouring water into the thermopot, we first boil it in a kettle. And after a while even the pump in the thermopot almost stops pumping - lime still overgrows at the bottom the sediment is like milk. I also boil a lemon. And a kettle. And a washing machine. And a tank in the toilet.

and it turns cloudy from soft water

Nothing grows cloudy from soft water; St. Petersburg has very soft water. Scratches from calcium carbonate, which is in 90% of detergents for PMM.

Has read through it seems we have here everything about pmm. I still don't understand, do you need to add salt? A liter of water was poured, and a little salt came in (as it seems to me). I set the hardness of the water. But I still didn't understand anything about salt: how much to hang in grams?

I don't hang anything. Neither grams nor pounds. I will pour it into the neck as much as it will fit. She herself takes a little as much as she needs. The salt is out - the S lights up on the scoreboard.

[marinastom]

marinastom, Thanks for the quick response! My s didn't go out right away, the instructions say that the salt doesn't dissolve right away, like it'll go out later. They calmed me down, why then did I buy 1.5 kg of salt? Do you often have to sleep?

I rarely sprinkle. But I do not use it often, only after guests-feasts, well, or too lazy to wash.
And the salt will not turn sour, it is used!

The standard PMM includes about 1.5 kg; look at the passport

I have a narrow one. Wait, I hung it up, 1230 was left with a package, so it got 300 grams and 1 liter of water. Few? The instructions say 1 liter of water, then add salt. All.

For example, the salt indicator comes on. What to do? Pour salt and add water?

[Olga]

Olga, Is this the first time you pour it? I can lie, the first time I had it a long time ago, but it seems to me my Boshik did not particularly find fault with the quantities.

For example, the salt indicator comes on. What to do? Pour salt and add water?

Salt, of course. There is already water there.

That's where the dog rummaged !!! The water was already there! I just installed it yesterday, I washed the dishes with tablets three times, and the indicator is on! Well, I can't admit it, I read a lot, bought salt and go ahead, act!