Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

The hoses will not burst. The water from the dishwasher can be pumped out with a washing vacuum cleaner by connecting the vacuum cleaner hose to the PM outlet hose. Is there a washing machine at the dacha?

So far there is neither one nor the other. But I dream. Thanks for the tips.

In the container where we add salt, there is always water. I have no idea how to remove water from there? It is necessary to study this topic, if necessary, closely.

In the container where we add salt, there is always water. I have no idea how to remove water from there? It is necessary to study this topic, if necessary, closely.

From there, just a vacuum cleaner is easiest. What you dig up, share!

[marinastom]

marinastom Yes, it will just be a vacuum cleaner from salt concentrate, it's scary to think

What you dig up, share!

Nooo, I don't have a dishwasher in the country. It takes me 30 minutes by transport to get to my dacha.

I use pills, a dishwasher and a washing machine spend the winter in the country. In the fall, we carry out preservation for the winter, and in the spring we connect everything.

[marinastom]

marinastom Yes, it will just be a vacuum cleaner from salt concentrate, it's scary to think

And that will be? After he (the washing Roventa) survived the renovation, this is complete bullshit. Only the tank will be cleaner.

In the fall, we carry out preservation for the winter, and in the spring we connect everything.

Is it possible in more detail?

I also wanted to ask about the details. Conservation is too broad a concept ...

Washing: first I open the hatch of the car, it stands open for several days, I wipe the tank, the hatch, and the rubber bands with a dry cloth. If there is no time, then you can dry with a hairdryer. We unscrew the hoses from the water supply and drain, water is drained from there. then we attach the vacuum cleaner and pump out the water.
PPM: Similarly, unscrew the hoses. I pump out the water with a vacuum cleaner. I wipe the inside with a sponge and rags, removing all internal filters. Everything dries up. I do this at the end of August, the first week of September. So far, everything is working, but the technique is already on the verge, since the release of 2003. It’s worse if you don’t remove the water from the toilet, and everything really bursts there!

Maroussia, thank you very much! The toilet is by far the most important thing. My husband prepares him for the winter.

Why pump out salt water and salt cucumbers? I have been living in my country house for 5 years, it never occurred to me that water with such a concentration of salt could freeze or a filter that is washed with this brine at the end of each wash. I unscrewed the hoses and drained them, that's all the conservation. Well, you can also smear the rubber bands on the door with glycerin or silicone.
off top I insert a rubber ball into the toilet bowl of approximately the same diameter.

A water lock ball?

A water lock ball?

Well yes. In the bag it was, so that it was more convenient to pull it out there. No smell from the septic tank, no destruction. Naturally, water must be removed, at least partially. Even if condensation appears, and it appears and freezes, the ball will shrink.

guys, I want to buy a dishwasher ... or maybe this is not a necessary thing? and you can do without it? I doubt it ... what do you say, owners?

A dishwasher is a must!

[echeva]

echeva, Well, there are women who love to wash dishes (rumored).
I took what money allows and I hate washing myself since childhood. And now my mother washes inaccurately and organic matter on the edges crumbles and dries up - then scrub it for a long time and tediously. True, our region is not a problem: the water is soft, the lights are not turned off, there are many repairmen - one could take a risk.

Guys, help me figure out the car.

Bosch, 2007. Recently, it has become bad to wash. A whitish coating remains on the dishes. After the main wash, I started 40 degrees without powder, the plaque was washed off. Things got better this week. Plaque remains on the walls of the dishwasher, white, cannot be erased with a cloth or just water - only with a brush with Sif. Also on the dishes. Additional washing no longer helps.

I cleaned the filters, started the car for cleaning with special means. Detergent / salt / rinse aid - changed. I also twisted the rinse aid settings. There is zero sense.

What could it be? I don’t know anymore, is it worth calling the master? Who can tell what it looks like? For some reason it seems to me that this is resin? Am I wrong? I'm not ready to buy a car right now ...

[Mams]

Mams, most importantly - do not panic!
The diagnosis "ion exchanger" is most likely correct. There are several ways out of this situation.
1) Use pills. Purely hypothetically, it might work.
2) Replacing the ion exchanger. Long, expensive, but it will definitely help.
3) Soften the inlet water in front of the machine. It’s also not very cheap, but it can help.
4) Replace the resin in the existing ion exchanger. If there are people with straight arms in the immediate environment, it can be almost free.

[Mams]

Mams, most importantly - do not panic!
The diagnosis "ion exchanger" is most likely correct. There are several ways out of this situation.
...
4) Replace the resin in the existing ion exchanger. If there are people with straight arms in the immediate environment, it can be almost free.

But from this moment in more detail, please. We will record.

On ixbt, I met messages that our "kulibins" found a simple way out. An ion exchanger is essentially a plastic container of a specific shape filled with ion exchange resin. 200 euros just for the "specificity". The resin itself is inexpensive, sold in bags. So the craftsmen drill a small hole, remove the old resin and fill in the new one. Then this hole is carefully melted. There is no pressure there, so there are no special requirements for the "patch".

People, if anyone actually tests this technology, you will write off the results. And then, HZ, what can be. "He who is forewarned is armed." (C)

And I continue to have problems with BEKO 5830, not only that the receiver for the rinse aid started leaking after a year of operation (I ordered a new one from the master, I'm waiting for the second month, the price is 300 UAH), so now, every other time, the programs work. We have to tilt the car, pull the door, since now it is slightly extended due to the replacement of the rinse aid receiver. She voiced the problem to the master, he was at a loss ...

[Jefry]

Jefry, intrigued me even more. This is where you can buy this resin? Is it viscous, stringy or in the form of powder, granules?

[Mams]

Mams, most importantly - do not panic!
The diagnosis "ion exchanger" is most likely correct. There are several ways out of this situation.

Thank you very much for your reply. Unfortunately, there are no hands nearby. There is one paid comrade, I will try to call, at least tell me what the replacement may result in. I definitely won't go there myself, not my sphere. I will buy pills, I did not use them.

The only question is, why could the resin be covered? 7 years is not that long for a PMM. It seems like Bosch, the car was not the cheapest at the time of purchase. Medium hard water. There is always salt, I use normal means. Washed at 50 degrees, sometimes at 60-70 ...

This is not an idle question. If it doesn't work out for good money, I'll buy a new one. Without her, as without hands. I would not want to change such a technique every 7 years ...

My instructions say that the service life is 7 years ...

[Mams]

Mams, Ol, empty all the rinse aid from the 6 bin, let it stand empty, huh?
(I mean, try to wash a couple of times when empty)

[Mams]

My instructions say that the service life is 7 years ...

Exactly. And mine. In the bastards .. And you will not undermine.

Mams, Ol, let all the rinse aid out of the 6 bin, let it stand empty, huh?
(I mean, try to wash it a couple of times when empty)

A good idea. I'll try to do it tomorrow. Well, it's really sick without her. Washes, infection, somehow. And I already got used to it ...

[Mams]

1) Use pills. Purely hypothetically, it might work.

The tablet will not replace the salt in the container. If only not under the tongue
MamsIf salt was poured into the container and after 4-5 cycles there is no improvement, then this is a valve on the ion exchanger. Either the solenoid on it burned out, or you were overwhelmed by 3-1 tablets without pouring salt into the container and limescale jammed it. This valve supplies brine to the ion exchanger for its regeneration from the salt container.

Bosch ion exchanger

Solenoid valve

On ixbt, I met messages that our "kulibins" found a simple way out. An ion exchanger is essentially a plastic container of a specific shape filled with ion exchange resin.

I don't know how now I have a Boshik for 15 years. The old ones in the ion exchangers had a black plug / plug, the resin could be poured out. In short, you can see it in the picture

intrigued even more. This is where you can buy this resin? Is it viscous, stringy or in the form of powder, granules?

Open the cartridge from the 10-inch drinking water filter (more precisely, they all unwind) there will be such yellow-brown sand, very small balls. This is it.

I will buy pills, I did not use them. The only question is, why could the resin be covered? 7 years is not that long for a PMM. Like Bosch, the car was not the cheapest at the time of purchase. Medium hard water. There is always salt, I use normal means. Washed at 50 degrees, sometimes at 60-70 ... More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...ion=com_smf&topic=90875.0

95% valve. Brine is not supplied to the ion exchanger.

95% valve. Brine is not supplied to the ion exchanger.

Why plaque on the walls? Just don't say it's lime.

Why plaque on the walls? Just don't say it's lime.

Yes it is. Yes, because the ion exchanger is already (how to put it more carefully) .... it is dirty. Here. And it does not fulfill its functions.
In general, Mona run a test program in Bosh, she will check all the nodes one by one and give the result with a blinking paw. Like in a car.

[highly]

Yes it is. Yes, because the ion exchanger is already (how to put it more carefully) .... it is dirty.

I have water ... How to put it mildly ... Well highly tough. This is usually not served on city highways. Because labor is covered with lime.
In the car, the ionizer does not work for a long time, because I am stocking up on salt.
Take pictures of the walls of the chamber right now? Or is it better to have a clean 6-layer dish? I can use a stainless steel bowl from a multicooker - there is inexpensive steel, polished to death, the plaque is perfectly visible. If he is there.

Yes it is. Yes, because the ion exchanger is already (how to put it more carefully) .... it is dirty. Here. And it does not fulfill its functions.
In general, Mona run a test program in Bosh, she will check all the nodes one by one and give the result with a blinking paw. Like in a car.

95% valve. Brine is not supplied to the ion exchanger.

I repeat, the water is of medium hardness (checked with paper, put it in the car according to the instructions), I did not use tablets. Only salt + rinse aid + powder.

So. It got dirty ... I want to understand what I did wrong, that it got dirty .. The brine is not served, but just yesterday I asked to pour salt, why?

More questions, can I? Is the valve to be replaced? And how do you run the program? Can you tell the buttons? At the same time, what should they show and what not?

The brine is not served, but just yesterday I asked to add salt, why?

The valve may not open completely.

Is the valve to be replaced?

In older models, yes. I don't know about the new ones.

how to run the program? Can you tell the buttons? At the same time, what should they show and what not?

Too long to explain. I'll look for it, it was somewhere in the chosen one

[Mams]

Mams, Look at here 🔗

Bosch dishwasher repair

Dishwashers from Bosch are one of the most reliable manufacturers of this technology.
The Germans have everything thought out to the smallest detail - various control and protection sensors are installed.

But any complex mechanism sooner or later fails. This is where the Bosch dishwasher repair manual is needed!
Here we will tell you how to fix it with your own hands!

1. Test program for checking the Bosch SRV46A dishwasher ...

With the door open, hold down any two keys, press the main switch. As long as the keys remain pressed, the current coding is displayed by the LEDs (L2-L4).

After releasing two keys, LED L3 lights up, LED L4 blinks.

Press the S3 button until the L4 LED lights up. Press the S4 key to activate the test program.

We close the door - the test starts. The transition to the next position of the check program is made by pressing S3 (the only exception is when filling, the next step of the check after the F1 level sensor is triggered).

What the dishwasher does when checking:

- pumping out, pre-filling, filling
- circulation, heating, supply of detergent
- supply of rinse aid, regeneration valve
- filling with softened water, calibration of the aquasensor
- heat exchanger outlet valve.

If there is a malfunction, an error code is displayed. We decode by LEDs as shown in the figure:

1. Heating water
2. NTC sensor
3. Water intake
4. Filling with softened water
5. Tachogenerator
6. Aquasensor

Sometimes Bosch dishwashers can work for several hours without stopping and show an error "1" on the display. This means that the control module has paused due to unknown heating problems.

It is necessary to check the nodes related to water heating:
NTC sensor, circulation pump, wires and connectors, control board, thermostat, flow sensor and the heating element itself.

What to do if the dishwasher door lock fails:

- unscrew the dashboard screws from the inside of the door
- move the dashboard away from the door so that it does not interfere
- gently bend the metal tabs of the console to release the blockage.

The water intake system may differ depending on the dishwasher model:
- bay by time
- pressure bay

The floats must be checked and their bases must be free of water and debris for reliable operation of the water filling unit!

Features of the repair of the dispenser (dispenser) - containers for detergents:

During each washing program, the drive opens twice - supply detergent and rinse aid into the dishwashing chamber.
The drive also controls the rinse aid dosage piston. Dispensers can contain reed switches or optical sensors.

To dismantle and check the dispenser:
- remove the outer door, remove the dashboard and disconnect the wiring harness from the dashboard
- bend the latches and pull the dispenser

2. Diagnostics of the Bosch SHU43 dishwasher

Press the Power Scrub and Regular Wash buttons (2nd and 4th buttons from the left) at the same time to run the test, then press the Power button. One of the LEDs will be on if there is a fault. If the "WASH" ​​lamp is on, it indicates a heating problem. If the "CLEAN" lamp is on, it indicates an NTC fault.

Take pictures of the walls of the chamber right now? Or is it better to have a clean 6-layer dish?

I'm leaving ... I'm leaving ... I'm leaving

[Mams]

Mams, I advised you to clean the rinse aid tank with a very specific purpose - since those 6os are not very new and not the cheapest, that is, the hope that he knows how to draw water into the flow of the ion exchanger. And with an empty 6 rinse aid bin, he 6 will think that you are washing with a tablet. This means that water does not need to go through the ionizer.

I am now washing with a liquid finish, 6 without salt and 6 without rinse aid (moreover, the latter sent water to the ionizer's flow not long ago, before that there was a weak rinse aid solution). The photo shows evidence of this, as well as a photo of a shining camera 6 without a single speck of plaque. Sweat on the far wall from the cold wall behind it.

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But according to the latest version, the camera should have been overgrown with stalactites a long time ago.

I'm leaving ...

No, no, no way! It’s not interesting to understand what happened to Mams there. What if I have some time? After all, the cars we have with her are similar and the same age. And you know a lot, I am very sorry to lose such a companion.

Mams, look here 🔗

Very interested! In general, the site is interesting, everything is done for people!
And what is the algorithm of actions for a machine like mine, where there are no buttons for selecting programs, but there is a rotating knob?

[Mams]

And what is the algorithm of actions for a machine like mine, where there are no buttons for selecting programs, but there is a rotating knob?

SHU43 / 53/66 wheel for six o'clock and turn on. You do not need to do this if everything is in order, you can knock down the programs, then restore only according to the plate.
Mams, I just thought, maybe everything is much more banal and you have not lime stains, but salt stains? Take a closer look at the lid of the salt tank, there may be a crack or the gasket is not tightly pressed.
I have a service manual current I need to know the model

maybe everything is much more banal and you have not lime stains, but salt stains?

The salt would be washed off with plain water. If only Sif helps, we have limescale.
Everything there really can be very commonplace, the saline supply channel could be clogged with something. For seven years, sediments could be collected completely.
Or maybe, if the adjustment is electronic, the settings are reset to "0". This is unlikely, but theoretically possible.

[we]

If only Sif helps, we have limescale.

I don’t like such 6 appeal statements. ((

And why we we don’t have it on hard water and 6 without an ionizer? By the way, if Mams' water was so hard, then all the dishes washed under the tap took exactly the same form. I have a glass rinsed under running water and will remain unclear from efflorescence. In the places where the drops have dried.

But that a more or less hard-to-remove limescale has formed on the walls of the vessels, it is necessary that the water stood there at rest for at least three days. Instead of rinsing the walls in the last rinse.

my water is not very hard, I don't remember exactly the value, but the analysis was done in a serious laboratory. According to the table, it turns out between "two" and "C". Just in case, there is a "C". So about the fact that the salt is running out in the bunker, I find out a couple of washes before the indicator lights up. Precisely because of the light indelible coating on the plates.

Instead of rinsing the walls in the last rinse.

Actually, the comparison with the crane is not entirely correct. The dishes are rinsed for several minutes with sufficiently hot water, with a temperature of 50-70 degrees. How many times do you need to boil hard water in a new kettle so that it ceases to be beautiful and shiny inside? It is enough to heat it up once

[Mams]

So about the fact that the salt is running out in the bunker, I find out a couple of washes before the indicator lights up. Precisely because of the light indelible coating on the plates.

Wow, thank you, very interesting, really.
Do I have some special calcium? If a new stainless steel kettle is boiled on gas once, then the plaque can be wiped off with your fingers, if 5 times - there is already a grater 6, only clean it with a lemon. And when we put a bath in the garden for the children in the summer, then after a week it is no longer possible to climb in there - you will peel the skin, as if on sandpaper. ((

Can you see the car inside in the photo?
It still bothers me that at first Olga's plaque was washed off by warm rinsing in the same car. The water remained the same, didn't it?

Mams, and if you rinse with lemon or vinegar - the plaque leaves?
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As we are talking about the kettle at the same time.)) No, rubbing it with your fingers in the kettle means touching and falling off, I do it with the back of my fingers, and there the skin is tender, you won't rub it hard.

[Bijou]

Bijou, you write so cleverly, you give such competent comments. What education do you have?

[iris. ka]

iris. ka, household.
She's just very curious.

[Bijou]

Oh, I was gone one day, and so many advice was given. Thank you, citizens, for not letting us get discouraged. I do everything gradually.

Lena-Bijou, it didn’t work without rinse aid, two washes are normal - the third, as usual, had to be put on an additional 40 sink. Basically, it was washed, some cups still had to be washed by hand. Photos of the walls are attached. By the way, the car is three in one, so she knows how to wash it with tablets ... So, the citric acid is diluted, the plaque is washed off - with a slight movement of a cloth .... brrr .. there is a complete porridge in my head.
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I can run test programs only on weekends. I saved the site, thank you very much Dr.NO... I will definitely check everything. Model number also photographed. I cannot find the documents from the car for the third day. As usual, the most necessary things have fallen somewhere .. Oh, I managed to download the instructions for the car. Urrya ...

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Jefry, took off the salt lid, looked through it, it seemed whole. In one place it seemed like a crack, but it looks more like a scratch from above ..
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Now I have read everything carefully. Water softening is difficult to do. There are filters in front of the water meters, but they are mechanical, they help more against rust. If they help.

As soon as I find instructions, I will immediately check about the settings. Maybe they did. The outlet is separate for the car, but there was a couple of times a common house discharge, maybe it dropped it. Thank you.

Added: checked the settings. There is a factory 4ka, reduced to 3x. Let's see if it can improve the situation.

By the way, the machine is three in one, so she knows how to wash it with tablets ...

I will repeat myself - the machine washes according to the algorithm "with a tray" only if there is NO rinse aid in the 6 bin. And not set to zero.

So, I diluted citric acid, the plaque is washed off - with a slight movement of a cloth ...

Nice ... But it’s not clear what to do about it.

With those years of soap?