Problem situations in the operation of dishwashers

Still, it's better to unscrew the lid and fill the compartment with water to the top.

Fields, I also initially forgot to pour water. I even wrote somewhere .... Then, on the advice of the forum, I poured it up to the neck, poured salt and ALWAYS stir it. My salt darkened after the water, but there was a lot of it, and after mixing, the salt fell deeper and I had to add more.
But tell me, when do you need to pour salt again to the top or before the indicator light goes out?

Up to the top. The light simply indicates that it is time to fill the compartment. It will go out when a third or a half of the salt is filled in.

As I fell asleep, so I have it and is a slide?

Did you pour water?

He poured water. Stirred. She sank to the bottom so immediately.
And what kind of rinse aid. Pour it every time or as needed.
The instructions say to fill in the rinse aid. How many? How often?

He poured water. Stirred. She sank to the bottom so immediately.
And what kind of rinse aid. Pour it every time or as needed.
The instructions say to fill in the rinse aid. How many? How often?

Fields, I also initially forgot to pour water. I even wrote somewhere .... Then, on the advice of the forum, I poured it up to the neck, poured salt and ALWAYS stir it. My salt darkened after the water, but there was a lot of it, and after mixing, the salt fell deeper and I had to add more.

Be sure to turn on the program for at least 30 minutes after pouring salt and pouring water !!!
Rinse aid is poured into a special compartment {most likely you have it on the lid next to the powder compartment} to the brim, but try not to pour it past - if it spills, wipe it off :-)
Add both salt and oil when the indicator comes on

And what kind of rinse aid. Pour it every time or as needed.
The instructions say to fill in the rinse aid. How many? How often?

Special rinse aid for PMM. Since you have bought Frau Gretta's powder, then the rinse aid is desirable from the same series. With our soft St. Petersburg water, set the rinse aid level to the minimum values ​​of 1 or 2. Lasts for a long time.

I poured water into salt. Poured rinse aid. I poured a tablespoon of powder. I put it on short mode. 45 minutes
I have no way to set the rinse aid level. He's the same Gretta.
Everything was washed, but somehow the dishes seem to be soapy. Especially forks.
But there is no rinsing. And for some reason the water is under the filter.

... And for some reason the water is under the filter.

I also have water there
And the previous PMM also had ...
So worry

I have no way to set the rinse aid level.

This cannot be, because this cannot EVER! Read the instructions page 9 - 10. Almost the same as changing the salt level, did you manage with salt?

Everything was washed, but somehow the dishes seem to be soapy. Especially forks.
But there is no rinsing.

The factory setting of the rinse aid dispenser level is 4. For St. Petersburg water this is a lot, and therefore soapy.
It is necessary to simply rinse, but it does not dry and is intended for other purposes.

[lega]

Agree with lega 100% :-)
On Indesite, my former salt was not regulated {searched all over the forum, but did not find}
And in Boch both salt and rinse aid MUST be displayed - that's for sure, the model is quite new, read carefully, look
And by the way, what is the name of your model?

[lega]

On Saturday, she became the happy owner of a Siemens 897 forty-five, asked our plumber when connecting - about water, whether it is necessary to fill in salt in PMM, he said that in St. Petersburg the water is average, but salt does not need to be used if I use a 3 in 1 product. played, and now ... when 3 washings on different programs passed, I took out all the slippery dishes. I sniffed to read the thread as soon as possible, ... guys ...lega and sazalexter low bow from the kettle. Your advice helped to set up this wonderful pepelats, I urgently poured half a pack of salt (and how much will it be okay? I don’t know how much to hang in grams) set the water settings to 1, rinse aid to 1, started the truth in idle (family at work, nema dishes) I'll wash the dishes in the evening and unsubscribe if my problem of slimy dishes is gone.

[simax]

simax Pour salt until the bunker is full approx. I have 1.5 kg, it is enough for more than a year, I buy a large one from the Finish. I pour the powder a little into the preliminary compartment and about 15-20g. in the main, the rinse aid costs me at 1. I use the powder which is cheaper, the finish or somat, no difference, all from one barrel. Finish rinse aid.

The car is like this.
Dishwasher Bosch SKS 50E18

[simax]

simax Pour salt until the bunker is full approx. I have 1.5 kg, it is enough for more than a year, I buy a large one from the Finish. I pour the powder a little into the preliminary compartment and about 15-20g. in the main, the rinse aid costs me at 1. I use the powder which is cheaper, the finish or somat, no difference, all from one barrel. Finish rinse aid.

Yeah, yeah))) everything is the same with me, just not powder but 3 in 1 tablets finish while I bought a gel for a quick program just in case. I understood about salt ... not completely means thumping, half a pack is gone, 700-800 grams, which means I'll add some more. After changing all the parameters to 1, the dishes at the exit are no longer slippery, there is really a lot of rinse aid ... but! I have brown glass plates from Luminarc a little rainbow steel but where is the jamb?

After changing all the parameters to 1, the dishes at the exit are no longer slippery, there is really a lot of rinse aid ... but! I have brown glass plates from Luminarc a little rainbow steel but where is the jamb?

I do not know what to say. I have these plates for 10 years in the PMM wash - they did not become rainbow. The rinse aid is on the deuce. The unit somehow confuses me. After all, the rinse aid not only gives "slipperiness", but also helps to neutralize the detergent. Detergent - alkaline, rinse aid - acidic.

[simax]

simax Reduce the amount of detergent seems to have been poured a lot, or add rinse aid to 2.
So are you on pills now? Then these recommendations are useless. With a pill, there's just nothing to adjust

[simax]

simax Reduce the amount of detergent seems to have been poured a lot, or add rinse aid to 2.
So are you on pills now? Then these recommendations are useless. With a pill, there's just nothing to adjust

I disagree. Sometimes, using only half of the tablet is also beneficial.

[sazalexter]

I ran into setup problems at first when using the powder, and the reason was precisely that I was pouring a lot of powder. Then I started using pills and again the same problem came back. I divide the tablet in half, thus reducing the portion of the detergent.
In my opinion, everything is logical. My half of the tablet is several years old, the dishes are washed out perfectly.
Therefore, dear sazalexterYour dismissive comments and chuckles are not appropriate. You remain unconvinced, but treat others with more respect. If necessary, I can also find the corresponding smile that responds to you and your comments!

No one has canceled the setting of the parameters, it is easier to pour less powder than to break an indivisible tablet. There are undocumented possibilities and for their use, the user assumes responsibility.After that, very often the equipment ends up in repairs or in a landfill. Forewarned is forearmed

No one has canceled the setting of the parameters, it is easier to pour less powder than to break an indivisible tablet. There are undocumented possibilities and for their use, the user assumes responsibility. After that, very often the equipment ends up in repairs or in a landfill. Forewarned is forearmed

We disassemble the points.
It is recommended in the instructions to pour 25 grams of detergent, you advise you to reduce the dose in the posts above, that is, read below:
Proceeding from this, I quote you: "There are undocumented possibilities and for using them, the user assumes responsibility. After that, very often the equipment ends up in repairs or dump. Forewarned is forearmed."
I don't see any logic.
Further. A tablet is a compressed amount (in grams) of detergent, so I see the similarity here with powder.
But, I emphasize, I describe my experience. My pills are ordinary, without any additives.
It turns out to be more convenient for me, much cheaper than powder, washes perfectly, better than powder.

Girls, how to wash PMM from limescale? Preferably without chemistry

[Za-za]

Za-za Alas, nothing, only chemistry.

That is why salt is used to soften the water, and therefore, is it a lime deposit?
Maybe something else?

We have water from an artesian well, the kettle is constantly washed from lime.
I use tablets 3 in 1 as well against lime, I use salt.
Yesterday I pulled out 2 small stones of lime origin from the drain hole. The car is covered in white. The temperature is not set on my own. I can only run for a long program, but I read all the means to boil it.
So I look forward to your advice and recommendations.

There is just a matter of scale, but I do not know if it is possible. Maybe kalgon, which is supposedly for washing machines.

There is just a matter of scale, but I do not know if it is possible. Maybe kalgon, which is supposedly for washing machines.

Somehow, the upper basket in the runner began to seize me, I tried to drive Frau Schmidt's capsule-tablets in an empty car at maximum temperature. It helped.

Girls, how to wash PMM from limescale? Preferably without chemistry

you don't need to boil it in the dishwasher (though the price on the link is crazy ..) or you can also pour out 3-4-5 (depending on how many grams) a packet of citric acid and start the washing program

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And in the future, use separate products, powder, salt, and rinse aid and do not even think of saving on them! Will come out "sideways"

everything is clear, but I see no point in a rinse aid? what is its function, besides the shine of the dishes?

Neutralization of detergent residues.

[Za-za]

We have water from an artesian well, the kettle is constantly washed from lime.
I use tablets 3 in 1 as well against lime, I use salt.
Yesterday I pulled out 2 small stones of lime origin from the drain hole. The car is covered in white. The temperature is not set on my own. I can only run for a long program, but I read all the means to boil it.
So I look forward to your advice and recommendations.

Za-za, I also have an artesian. Rinse with special means necessarily!!! This is a fairy tale!

And here is the fairy tale!
My dishwasher is 2 years old. She washes the dishes well. I use both powders and tablets. Salt and conditioner are essential in both cases. I washed it for the entire period of operation - no more than 6-7 times (my particular jamb). And so, at the beginning of summer, I find a huge puddle under the dishwasher. I called the master, he looked, puffed and took the car to the service. Then he called back and said that a rather sickly lime deposit in the form of a stone had formed on the heating element, and because of this, the water tank melted. The tank was sealed (or sealed) at another enterprise that specializes in such types of work. Now the machine is working fine.But now I wash it every month, be sure. And they put a filter on the water. Like this.

izvarina.d my PMM is already 4 years old, but the machine washes with this water for exactly one year. Then please tell me what means you use. And what to flush with? I understand that this is just with the remedy for the longest cycle? , it's a pity if the unit deteriorates.

[Za-za]

Za-za, I also have an artesian. Rinse with special means necessarily!!! This is a fairy tale!

I would also like to know what the special is. you use the products, because the water is also hard ...

Girls, today in "fixprice" I bought REFINE antiscale, I did everything according to the instructions. The machine was washed. Let's see what happens next.

everything is clear, but I see no point in a rinse aid? what is its function, besides the shine of the dishes?

Reduced scale formation, rinse aid is a weak acid.

Then please tell me what means you use. And what to flush with? I understand that this is just with the remedy for the longest cycle? , it's a pity if the unit deteriorates.

Periodically Finish, for cleaning PMM.

[Za-za]

izvarina.d my PMM is already 4 years old, but the machine washes with this water for exactly one year. Then please tell me what means you use. And what to flush with? I understand that this is just with the remedy for the longest cycle? , it's a pity if the unit deteriorates.

Za-za, yes, whatever I buy, this is finishing, and somat, and the finish ... The main thing here is regularity. Once a month is required. And it's better to install filters. And also, what I want to say, I was lucky that my car is serviced by a company whose owner is a friend of my husband's, otherwise it is possible that the service could be refused, or done for a very long time and expensive.

Tell me what the filters are. Enlighten the Dark And where exactly are they installed?

Tell me what the filters are. Enlighten the Dark And where exactly are they installed?

We put this at the entrance to the PMM:
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Universal anti-scale filter "SVOD-AS 300"
This filter is recommended to be installed in front of washing machines in regions with increased water hardness or in front of boilers and gas water heaters with medium water hardness.
Protects the heating element from limescale and other deposits. Protects rubber seals, valves and other internal parts from premature wear. Provides uninterrupted operation and extends the service life of equipment.
Improves the quality of washing and dishwashing. Reduces the activity of chlorine and hydrogen sulfide, reduces the content of heavy metals and suspended matter.
Saves up to 20% of electricity and gas. Reduces consumption of detergents. Eliminates the need to use anti-scale products.
Conveniently connects.
Effectively works over a wide temperature range: from +5 to +105 ° С
Safe for human health. The filler "SVOD-AS" is hypoallergenic, does not cause irritation of the skin and mucous membranes. Does not harm nature.
Filter resource: 50,000 liters
Connection size: 3/4 "
Height: 270 mm
Diameter: 68mm
Filter capacity: 1.5 - 3 m3 / hour
Filler volume: 0.3 dm3 ± 3%
Working pressure: up to 0.6 MPa (6 kgf / cm3)
Treated water temperature: +5 ... +40 ° С
Working temperature of heated water: +5 ... +105 ° С
Price 23 USD e.

Up to the top. The light just indicates that it's time to fill the compartment. It will go out when a third or half of the salt is filled in.

But it didn’t go out! About 3 months ago, I started using salt for PMM Yplon - unlike Somat and Finish, this is coarse salt ("grains" with a diameter of about 0.5 cm or slightly less). Today the car demanded to add salt, which I did. But the salt light indicator is still on. This is the 3rd kilogram of salt that I put into my car. The first 2 times the indicator obediently went out. Somewhere in the open spaces of the forum, this problem was discussed. But, alas, I couldn't find it now. And what to do? The compartment is filled up to the ears with salt.

But, I found it ...subject: AlisaS writes that "In the instructions for my PMM it is written that the lack of salt indicator can light up after filling the salt container and this is a normal situation. After several washes, the indicator stops lighting. This is of course about another indicator, but it may be in your case after After a couple of washes, the rinse aid indicator stops flashing. "

A couple of sinks have already been ... Washing dishes 2 r. x 30 min. Burning ...

Za-za

You, with such water, need to put a multistage filter at the pipe inlet to the house, then all devices will be fine. My friends have it, they buy salt in pills for it, but the water is soft ...

I had it. After loading the super-duper car with salt tablets cleaned with huge "wheels", she signaled to me that she couldn't see the salt. I had to scoop out these huge salt tablets and fill in the usual salt from the Finish package. Immediately the car calmed down. I think it's a low salt concentration due to the small surface area in my case of salt tablets, and you have large crystals.

Za-za

You, with such water, need to put a multistage filter at the pipe inlet to the house, then all devices will be fine. My friends have it, they buy salt tablets for it in bags, but the water is soft ...

And you can find out the manufacturer. You can install it yourself. And you can drink water after this filter?

[Za-za]

Za-za Look for filters based on ion exchange resin, they are currently the most effective, for example, Main filter B110 🔗 or here's another option 🔗 after them you can drink water, unlike polyphosphate filters. About Svod-AS 🔗 I can't say anything, it looks like a fake

Za-za
For example such

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you need to select for your apartment (house) by the number of bathrooms and people ...

Thank you so much
Only now my husband said that we would not be able to put a common filter, we would have to climb under the house and work with welding ...

The matter, of course, is troublesome, but on the other hand, the issue of lime is solved completely in a kettle and with a bathroom-tile and with taps, etc.

The matter, of course, is troublesome, but on the other hand, the issue of lime is solved completely in a kettle and with a bathroom-tile and with taps, etc.

Like all individuals of the stronger sex, he cannot think broadly. Now his brain is occupied by the courtyard and therefore other issues are not being resolved. If he finishes it, then I'll pump it up with this topic again.