Agata21
Quote: rusja

A double boiler from Panasonic is free to stand under the cover of DEKH or is it all right?
All normalek
May @
Quote: Rina

girls who need a steamer from Panas - there are 40 UAH in Panasonic Plaza, but for a purchase up to 200 UAH. you need to pay for delivery of 40 UAH, and pick up by self-pickup is possible only within one hour a day.
I've also seen steamers of 40 grams, and now I went in, and there ... 🔗 , I don’t understand anything.
Daffi
I just called Panasonic-eplaza, I found out everything about the price and delivery terms :)
The steamer costs 39.99 UAH, the girl checked her database. That is, there is an error on the site.
Here are the terms of delivery for Kiev separately, for Ukraine separately. 🔗

In short: in Ukraine, it is cheapest to deliver through Ukrposhta, while you can get the goods at the nearest Ukrposhta branch, delivery is free, you only need to pay a commission to Ukrposhta in the amount of 4% of the cost of a double boiler, this is 1.60 UAH. Disadvantage: they take up to 10 days.

If you live in Kiev, it is cheaper to pick it up yourself, because delivery by courier in Kiev will cost 40 UAH. Disadvantage: you can pick up yourself only from 9-10 am, except Saturday and Sunday.
Daffi
Girls who made "Chocolate on boiling water" in Dex, tell me how to make it - a whole portion or half and how much to bake?
lenok2_zp
I did a whole portion, how much baked, I don't remember at close range, like 45 + 20 heating
May @
I have a question for those who have an insert steamer from Panasonic.
Do you use this steamer on a regular basis or bought a Schaub bouleau and is somewhere far away in the closet? I want to understand if she is needed?
irrational
May @ I use it regularly, it is more convenient to make chopped vegetables in it, and in general it is much more convenient to do it than in the one on the legs. The one that I use on legs only when I want to make it in 2 tiers or when the volume of products is large, but everything is trying to fall into the hole in the center or roll to the edges, the basket is still much more convenient.
Daffi
Quote: May @

I have a question for those who have an insert steamer from Panasonic.
Do you use this steamer on a regular basis or bought a Schaub bouleau and is somewhere far away in the closet? I want to understand if she is needed?
I think we do.
Firstly, because it is very convenient and quick and economical (in terms of energy consumption) to cook on two levels at once, for example, cook the same dumplings or make steam cutlets.
Secondly, it is very inconvenient to remove ready-made cutlets or lazy dumplings from your own steamer, there will be no such problems with the insert, because it can be taken out together in ready-made cutlets.
At the same time, a native steamer has its own advantages: it is not possible to put a container with something on it and cook it like in a water bath. With the Panasonic insert it will be difficult. In my own steamer, I cooked whole cauliflower, it turned out super successfully, especially with the sauce, the guests appreciated
I haven’t used the insert steamer yet, but I will definitely use it. As soon as I use two levels, I will unsubscribe. Only I have it not from Panasonic, but from Perfezza, but what's the difference
Guylechka
Quote: Agata21

Where are you from, neighbor?
I am from a city to which your city is considered a "satellite"! How bent
Daffi
I tried steaming on two levels - very convenient and fast, the insert is more convenient than the native Dex steamer. I made lazy dumplings, in the insert they greatly increased in size, and in my own steamer they almost did not increase and even spread a little, losing their shape. It is very convenient to take dumplings out of the insert; it is inconvenient to take out of your own steamer.
In general, I am very pleased, thanks again to Polina for the insert
TyominaAlyona
Today I cooked pasta on the Rice / Spaghetti Express program.The liquid squelched a little more than she wanted. I took off the valve and cooked without it. It seemed that cooking (due to more intense evaporation) went faster, sorry I did not pay attention to how much time the macaroons actually cooked. The result is excellent. I like it.
May @
TyominaAlyona, and you immediately put the butter in the pasta or then when they cook?
Daffi
And I decided to make turkey paprikash, it's worth stewing, I hope it will be delicious
I look closely at the manna without butter and flour, who did it - if you can write it down or not, and is it really as tasty as everyone writes
TyominaAlyona
Mannik turned out great! I won't tell you the taste, because I haven't tried it. I baked it for my mother, a great lover and connoisseur of manniks. Added orange zest. Maman said that manna is very tasty, large-porous and fragrant. In a word - she liked it, she said it was delicious!
Daffi
Quote: TyominaAlyona

Mannik turned out great! I won't tell you the taste, because I haven't tried it. I baked it for my mother, a great lover and connoisseur of manniks. Added orange zest. Maman said that manna is very tasty, large-porous and fragrant. In a word - she liked it, she said it was delicious!
Hell in Dex or another cartoon?
Rita
Quote: Daffi

And I decided to make turkey paprikash, it's worth stewing, I hope it will be delicious
I look closely at the manna without butter and flour, who did it - if you can write it down or not and is it really as tasty as everyone writes
This is an option for the case when you don't want to tinker with something complicated, but you want something sweet, so you shouldn't expect a special taste. Mannik turns out to be sweet and not dry. Similar to a cupcake, only denser in texture.
TyominaAlyona
Quote: May @

TyominaAlyona, and you immediately put the butter in the pasta or then when they cook?
If I just cook "empty" pasta, then I immediately add OM to the boiling water. If I cook lazy - first I fry the meat, juice appears, I add broth / water (it is important not to pour excess liquid), if necessary - oil, I throw pasta into the boiling liquid and go. I look and mix it 1-2 times. You can turn it off until the final beep, when the countdown begins on the display. Variations on the same theme with sauce, vegetables, oil are always in the process, not after cooking.
Daffi
Quote: Rita

This is an option for the case when you don't want to tinker with something complicated, but you want something sweet, so you shouldn't expect a special taste. Mannik turns out to be sweet and not dry. Similar to a cupcake, only denser in texture.
How long does he bake? Is 45 minutes enough or will you need to add?
Rita
Quote: Daffi

How long does he bake? Is 45 minutes enough or will you need to add?
I baked in little Panas for 50 + 20 minutes. But I also sketched frozen black currant on top. It may have prevented the top layer from baking faster.
Daffi
Baked for 45 minutes and left on the heating for 15 minutes. It baked fine, but it was too sweet for my taste.
Keti
Girls, or you can take a picture of the most powerful column of steam. What height (width) it extends to.
Thank you.
Keti
Hello everyone! You can congratulate me! I finally decided to buy a multicooker. Thought between Perfezza, Yummy. I went over it for a long time, but settled on the DEX-50. Somehow he was small, white, seemed cute.
First of all, I washed it, and removed the valve, disassembled, washed it. In this regard, there is a question: I assembled the valve, inserted it into the lid, but if I press it with my finger from the inside of the lid, it pops up. Is this so for everyone, can you check, or just me?
The second question: there is a gap when the lid is closed, and if you press the lid, it comes closer to the body, and a sound like clicking when typing letters on the keyboard. The seller said they are all like that, cheated or am I very suspicious?
Guylechka
Quote: Keti

Hello everyone! You can congratulate me! I finally decided to buy a multicooker. Thought between Perfezza, Yummy. I went over it for a long time, but stopped at the DEX-50. Somehow he was small, white, seemed cute.
First of all, I washed it, and removed the valve, disassembled it, washed it. In this regard, there is a question: I assembled the valve, inserted it into the lid, but if I press it with my finger from inside the lid, it pops up. Is this so for everyone, can you check, or just me?
The second question: there is a gap when the lid is closed, and if you press the lid, it comes closer to the case, and a sound like clicking when typing letters on the keyboard. The seller said they are all like that, cheated or am I very suspicious?
Congratulations on your purchase! The valve is really easily pushed out with a finger, but this is most likely done for safety - with very strong boiling, so as not to flood the device itself, the steam will push the valve, in general, something like this ... If everything is fine in the device and there is no violent boiling the valve sits in place and steam escapes normally. And the lid, yes, does not fit tightly, I don’t know, maybe this is so necessary, or maybe the manufacturer’s flaw, but this does not affect the operation of the device
Keti
Guylechka thanks. Then you can relax.

The first course I cooked scrambled eggs with vegetables. Now the soup is being cooked.
I like everything so far.

First try of a multicooker:
Multicooker DEX DMC-50

second:
Multicooker DEX DMC-50
Multicooker DEX DMC-50

When the frying was ready and it was necessary to pour water into the soup, I wanted to add broth from the refrigerator, but at the last moment I stopped and poured water at room temperature.
Question: can or not add cold to a hot pot?

Another question: I read in a book: "At the end of cooking, remove the rice / spaghetti with a slotted spoon, since the bowl can be removed after it has cooled."
How true is this phrase? Is it really impossible to remove the hot bowl from the multicooker?

P / S: If anyone is interested in where in Kharkov you can buy DEX-50 at the price of the Internet but pick it up right away from the store, I can give you the address.
Guylechka
Well, you see how well everything is. I am sure that you will be satisfied with the device, and the household too, such a thing stimulates the desire to cook Just keep in mind that you will also have to eat - I have already gained 1.2 kg, until it is critical (57.4) but ...
Keti
Quote: Guylechka

Well, you see how well everything is. I am sure that you will be satisfied with the device, and the household too, such a thing stimulates the desire to cook Just keep in mind that you will also have to eat - I have already gained 1.2 kg, until it is critical (57.4) but ...

Guylechka then we will eat in small portions
May @
Quote: Keti

Another question: I read in a book: "At the end of cooking, remove the rice / spaghetti with a slotted spoon, since the bowl can be removed after it has cooled."
How true is this phrase? Is it really impossible to remove the hot bowl from the multicooker?

Honestly, I have not seen such a phrase. I always take out a hot pot, pour it over, cool it until warm and wash it.
Keti
Quote: May @

Honestly, I have not seen such a phrase. I always take out a hot pot, pour it over, cool it until warm and wash it.

In the booklet on pages 5 and 17, in the middle, where PLEASE WITH COOKED rice / spaghetti
lesik_l
I, too, simply do not allow sudden changes in temperature - that is, I pulled it out and let it cool down - then mine. And I do not pour cold food into the hot.
Guylechka
A multicooker uses a heating element like an email. plates, el. kettles, etc., and they all do not like temperature changes, that is, the elements must be given heat gradually - the service life depends on this, for the same reason it is impossible to put a cold one on a hot element or, in the case of mv. , pour cold liquid into a hot saucepan. I think so ... I either heat the broth or dilute it with hot water.
Jefry
I don’t know how in other cartoons, in Dax the contact area of ​​the pan with the heating element is negligible ... There is an air gap, which is a good heat insulator. Therefore, I do not pay attention to temperature changes at all.
lesik_l
Temperature extremes are dangerous for the Teflon coating - it begins to flake off. Therefore, it is dangerous to lay on a wet surface after baking or swell cold water during frying.

Quote: Jefry

I don’t know how in other cartoons, in Dax the contact area of ​​the pan with the heating element is negligible ...There is an air gap, which is a good heat insulator. Therefore, I do not pay attention to temperature changes at all.

What did you mean?
Jefry
Quote: lesik_l

Temperature extremes are dangerous for the Teflon coating - it begins to flake off. Therefore, it is dangerous to lay on a wet surface after baking or swell cold water during frying.
I completely agree with this.
What did you mean?
This:
Quote: Guylechka

A multicooker uses a heating element like an email. plates, el. teapots, etc., and they all do not like temperature changes, that is, the elements must be given heat gradually - the service life depends on this.
Multiple heating elements are not threatened by temperature drops, since there is practically no direct contact with the dishes. The saucepan may be damaged, the heater may not.
Keti
First baking in a multicooker:
Multicooker DEX DMC-50

By the way, there was not a drop of condensation on the baking. So it probably should be?
oriana
successful cake))) with a successful first baking))))
Keti
Quote: oriana

successful cake))) with a successful first baking))))
Thank you. fruit pie I like DEXik, not the right word. I don’t know why I ignored it at first ... Or rather, I know, I fell for SupercoW and Perfezz for a long time
TyominaAlyona
Quote: Keti

I like DEXik, not the right word. I don’t know why I ignored it at first ... Or rather, I know, I fell for SupercoW and Perfezz for a long time
Well, fine! Let the cartoon serve faithfully! Here's a good start - how many tasty treats!
Perfezki too very good. good, only COMFI broke the price of them inadequate.
Keti
Perfezki too very good. good, only COMFI broke the price of them inadequate.
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Yes, that's the point, I looked at the prices in Comfi, looked ... and decided to read about DEXik. And the price is lower and the menu is clear and spare pots are also sold.
TyominaAlyona
The main thing is that you are satisfied with the choice! If the issue with milk porridge is not urgent and the family is satisfied with the volume of a saucepan of 4 liters, then the alignment is in favor of Dex.
Perfezkami ideally fit the spare bowls from Yummi, you probably know - Polinka has already conducted a powerful test drive. And Yummi didn’t "notice" today that Marishka had completed him with a bowl from Perfezka.
So, there are options for spare bowls for both Perfezoks and, thank God, for Dex!
Keti
With milk porridge, the question is not urgent. And the fact that there is frying, like in a frying pan, is very pleasing.

Somehow the owners of DEKHKOV are not active. Even the theme of DEH Recipes was created by sazalexter (I suspect that he is not the owner of such a multi). Ku-ku. Where are your braggers? You have to learn from someone else's experience.
TyominaAlyona
I think that communication "on a given topic" is most desirable for us, beginners. The aksakals-multi-veterans have already played enough and in a routine mode they calmly use their electric pan And they are not interested in describing the everyday dishes on duty that they cooked up in Dex. It is another matter if some cool recipe "pokolompoatsat" - there already makes sense to share a pleasant experience with others. So it turns out that the topic is enlivened by the impressions of the "newbies" and the successful finds of the "old-timers".
Daffi
Yes, some of us are inactive here, probably everything works out for everyone I did it too I finally found "my" proportions for rice porridge - you need to take a cereal / water ratio of 1: 2, the Rice / Spaghetti program, it turned out just like that porridge as I like, so I'm very, very happy
The bird in the cartoon is excellently stewed, it does not work on the stove. I made a turkey à la paprikash with sour cream sauce, it's incredibly tasty.
I discovered two more advantages of the native steamer insert - in the Steam cooking mode, you can sterilize empty cans for preservation and it is very convenient to make custard in a water bath or an ice cream base when you need to brew yolks with milk in a water bath with constant stirring. I never knew how, but here I did it
Today I will count how much electricity the cartoon ate, I hope that I will not go broke

In the cartoon, you can make cakes based on cakes made according to the recipe and the technology of muffin dough, it turns out very tasty.

Muffin dough cakes:

In the first bowl, mix:
1 tbsp. (250 ml) milk, or kefir, or fermented baked milk, or yogurt (what is in the house)
1 egg
1-3 st. l. refined sunflower oil (more oil - more fatty crust)
0.5 tsp citric acid
Stir everything with a whisk

In a separate bowl, combine:
140 g flour
120 g sugar
1/4 tsp salt
a pinch of vanillin
0.5 tsp soda
Stir the mixture with a hand whisk for 30 seconds, loosening it.

Pour liquid ingredients into a bowl with dry ingredients, stir only until the flour is moistened, do not stir thoroughly. Pour into a greased multi pan, bake for 45 minutes.
Let cool slightly, remove from the multi, let cool completely, cut in half, grease with jam, or sour cream, or sour cream and jam cream, or any cream of your choice. Top can be covered with chocolate icing or sprinkled with cocoa or powdered sugar.

P.S. 0.5 tsp citric acid + 0.5 tsp. soda can be replaced with 1 tsp. baking powder, put it in dry ingredients. Then you don't need to put lemon and soda.
oriana
Daffi,
thanks for the idea! But there are no pictures, I suppose they did not have time
Daffi
Quote: oriana

Daffi,
thanks for the idea! But there are no pictures, I suppose they did not have time
And what's there to phot? This is not a birthday cake. I can show you two biscuit-based cakes, I made them on the DR. Only I baked a biscuit in the oven, but you can also in a cartoon.

By the way, I used the technology of muffin dough to make Chocolate with boiling water. Only I changed the recipe - I didn't pour boiling water at the end, replaced it with an equal amount of milk. That is, in the recipe 1 tbsp. milk + 1 tbsp. boiling water, I took 2 tbsp. milk, poured into a bowl of liquid, well, then all the ingredients according to the recipe, and the technology is like in the muffin dough, where dry separately, liquid separately, then mix and pour into a mold. I made half a portion, then chilled, cut in half, greased with apricot jam.
oriana
Here I also have an interesting yoghurt, chocolate and honey dough for muffins and I keep looking at it for a sample of baked goods in a cartoon, now I will probably use it. Rather, I'll change your experience of baking muffin dough in a cartoon
Daffi
Quote: oriana

Here I also have an interesting yoghurt, chocolate and honey dough for muffins and I keep looking at it for a sample of baked goods in a cartoon, now I will probably use it. Rather, I'll change your experience of baking muffin dough in a cartoon
It depends on what kind of dough it is sometimes impossible to violate the dough making technology, because the result will be deplorable.

Yoghurt dough can be made by simply replacing milk with yoghurt in the recipe, making chocolate dough by simply adding 3 tbsp. l. cocoa, honey should probably be put in honey instead of sugar
oriana
Quote: Daffi

It depends on what kind of dough it is sometimes impossible to violate the dough making technology, because the result will be deplorable.
Yoghurt dough can be made by simply replacing milk with yoghurt in the recipe, making chocolate dough by simply adding 3 tbsp. l. cocoa, honey should probably be put in honey instead of sugar
Why violate cooking technology and replace products?
I just want to take as a basis the dough that I used for the one-to-one muffins and put it in a slow cooker ... well, let's see, it should, I think everything will work out
Daffi
Quote: oriana

Why violate cooking technology and replace products?
Because cooking is a creative process. A recipe is just a bunch of ingredients. I think of ingredients as building blocks from which to build a house. If you have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the process, then you can do what you need from these bricks.
If you want to build the same house as your neighbor's, then you must adhere to his recipe, otherwise it will not work
oriana
Quote: Daffi

Because a recipe is just a set of products, if you have sufficient knowledge and understanding of the process, then you can change, add, remove, replace, etc.As a result, you get new recipes. I rarely stick to recipes, I can take a cake from one cake, cream from another and make something new.
On the contrary, I often stick to recipes and try not to change anything. If I am initially satisfied with this recipe, I see a photo of the prepared product, then I do not hesitate to bake without violating the technology and sequence.
But by swapping products (or interchanging them), it is not always possible to achieve a good result. Already checked by me personally.
Daffi
Quote: oriana

On the contrary, I often stick to recipes and try not to change anything. If I am initially satisfied with this recipe, I see a photo of the prepared product, then I do not hesitate to bake without violating the technology and sequence.
But by swapping products (or interchanging them), it is not always possible to achieve a good result. Already checked by me personally.
I know what can be replaced and what cannot, where can be violated, and where not, you know?

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