TyominaAlyona
Well there! Who pulls me by the tongue, I'm still a "theoretician" on Dex.
But, as far as I understood from the study of the materiel, the languor occurs too gradually, and in the final cycle (according to the set time) a higher temperature is turned on to boil the prepared dish so that it does not sour. Perhaps such phases of "temperature rise" occur during the middle of the cycle, I don't know, I have no personal experience, but no one wrote about this in the sections where I studied the experience of Dex users.
In my opinion, lesik_l suggested the ideal scheme, first STEWING (gradual boiling), and after a decent heating to a boil - STEINING.
Once it is gurgling, I would have put it on Slowdown until morning.
PySy, I have no experience with DEXAMS yet, I'm still a PANASovod
Agata21
Quote: Yanusya08

Girls, tell me, please, who cooked the jellied meat, how much did they put on? I put it on stewing / simmering for 5 hours, came in 2.5 hours, the water is hot, but no more ... Carrots, onions, raw meat ... Disappointed, I turned it on for stewing for 1 hour, there will be gravy ... What is wrong ??? : girl_cray: Before that I cooked, set it for 7 hours, it was boiling so ... it turned out cloudy. Well, jellied meat in the cartoon does not obey me in any way ... But the chocolate on boiling water comes out super and, I am glad that only in the cartoon you can bake, no one at work can repeat it (well, they have no such miracle)
Jelly. I fill it with cold water, turn on boiling. As it boils, I remove the foam, salt, throw onions, carrots and bay leaves, set the languor for 7 hours. If you fill it with cold water and put it on languor, then a lot of time passes until the cartoon is brought to the desired temperature.
lesik_l
Quote: Daffi

I would suggest turning on Boiling, as soon as the liquid boils, a signal is given, then turn on the Simmering and cook on it.
But I haven't cooked jellied meat yet, so this is only theoretical advice.

When boiling, there is a very strong bubbling, and you want more jellied meat (I have a margin of about 2 cm from the edge in total) - it will overflow. And on extinguishing, as soon as the "fire" boils, it immediately decreases - it seems to me that this mode is more preferable
Daffi
Quote: lesik_l

When boiling, there is a very strong bubbling, and you want more jellied meat (I have a margin of about 2 cm from the edge in total) - it will overflow. And on extinguishing, as soon as the "fire" boils, it immediately decreases - it seems to me that this mode is more preferable
See the post above. Agata21 cooks as I suggest.
lesik_l
But this is standing over a saucepan - something reluctant. Let the cartoon itself work, but I will only press the buttons periodically
Yanusya08
Thank you girls for your help. : rose: It boiled on stewing, moved it for 5 hours to languish. True, I don’t know when I’ll spread it, because I’m going to work in the morning ... Girls, I cook only from chicken legs, do I need to add gelatin and how much is there for a full saucepan?
lesik_l
If from the legs, then it is necessary to remove the fat at the end of cooking and add gelatin at the rate of 1 tbsp. l. for 400 ml of liquid. And it is best to cook with a pork leg - both natural and tasty
Yanusya08
For the first time I just cooked from a pork leg, "byaka" still turned out to be: cloudy, greasy, horror ... This time I removed the skin from the chicken, and the fat, if possible, too ... I know the proportions of gelatin and water, I don't know how much water is in the cartoon ....
Lozja
For the umpteenth time we return to the jellied meat, it would be necessary to put the main points of the main dishes in Dexae into the topic header, but until you read everything.

I cook jellied meat in a cartoon like this (it's easier for me and will probably succeed): I put the meat on the stove, it boiled, drained, put everything in a cartoon, poured boiling water from a kettle, turned on 10 hours of Slowing and went to bed. In the morning, a couple of hours before the end of the program, I added vegetables.I season the jelly with spices after turning it off. All. Clean, transparent, you will not dig in.

Someone asked about the bread. Did you bake it in the cartoon itself, or did you also stuff it into a mold? The fact is that baked goods are baked in a multi in 45 minutes, if they are baked in the multi itself, and not in tins. I baked bread, somewhere in the subject I even posted a photo, then it was my first bread, so there was a lot of delight. As far as I remember, I baked it in a standard manner, then turned it over and baked it for another 15-20 minutes. Excellent bread turned out then.
My muffins and biscuits are all baked in 45 minutes in a multicooker bowl.
Sandiya
I want to cook potatoes with meat and vegetables tomorrow. What program would you recommend to bet on? Maybe someone has already prepared such a dish?
Yanusya08
Quote: Lozja

For the umpteenth time we return to the jellied meat, it would be necessary to put the main points of the main dishes in Dexae into the topic header, but until you read everything.
And I’ve already talked about the same 96 pages, while you leaf through everything, until you find what you need, you don’t want to cook .... Can separately take out the nuances of cooking main dishes in DEX 50
Yanusya08
Quote: Sandiya

I want to cook potatoes with meat and vegetables tomorrow. What program would you recommend to bet on? Maybe someone has already prepared such a dish?
I fried vegetables with meat for 15 minutes, then I added potatoes, sour cream, poured water and cooked on stewing for 2 hours, at the end I added dill ... It turns out super !!!
laxy
thanks azz the answers. I won't put the silicone mold in the bowl anymore ..
And what about bread, the fact of the matter is that bread was baked in a pot, without any forms. According to the recipe, bread is baked in 40-45 minutes ... I had it raw. And so I baked for 1.5 hours. 45 on one side, then flipped and another 45 minutes. In short, I was not satisfied ..
and so I expected that it would not be necessary to start the oven ... Eeeh.
lesik_l
laxy, you probably decided to bake too big bread? In a cartoon, you need to bake a weight of no more than 500-600 grams. Then everything is baked perfectly
Daffi
Quote: laxy

thanks azz the answers. I won't put the silicone mold in the bowl anymore ..
And what about bread, the fact of the matter is that bread was baked in a pot, without any forms. According to the recipe, bread is baked in 40-45 minutes ... I had it raw. And so I baked for 1.5 hours. 45 on one side, then flipped and another 45 minutes. In short, I was not satisfied ..
and so I expected that it would not be necessary to start the oven ... Eeeh.
If you write the recipe and the technology by which you made bread, then maybe they will tell you what the mistake was and why it did not work out.

Girls, there is a topic with recipes for Dex, I would suggest sending recipes there, maybe even without a photo, and at the beginning of this topic give a link to the topic with recipes.
I would also suggest giving links to important informational posts at the very beginning of the topic, for example, about what temperature is on the Stewing and Simmering modes, how the automatic programs work, how long it takes to steam vegetables, etc. This information is important, but she is completely lost on 96 pages of the topic.
May @
I baked bread in a cartoon. Weight about 800 g. Baking standard 45 minutes, then turned it over and another 15 minutes so that the crust is fried, otherwise it was too white and soft. The bread is excellent.
laxy
made bread according to this recipe
"Sift the flour into a bowl or saucepan, add one and a half teaspoons of salt, a quarter of a teaspoon of dry yeast, stir a little and pour in one and a half glasses of water. Mix everything with your hand or a wooden spoon so that the water mixes with the flour.
After that, cover the pan or bowl and leave for 16-20 hours.
We transfer the dough to a well-floured table and fold it in an envelope, wrapping the edges of the dough in the middle.
The dough formed in this way is transferred to a towel sprinkled with flour (so that later it is easier to transfer it, since the dough should be quite thin and soft) and, covering from above from airing with the free end of the towel, leave it for another three hours so that it has a proper rest and came up.
gently transfer the dough that has come up from the towel to the pan heated in the oven, cover it with a lid and put it in the oven.
We bake the bread for about 30 minutes in a covered saucepan at a temperature of 230-240 degrees, after which we remove the lid and continue to bake the bread for 10-15 minutes.
We take out the baked bread from the pan and let it cool on a plank or wire rack "
Lozja
laxy, bake bread according to recipes adapted to multicooker. For a whole section of such breads.
Daffi
Quote: laxy

We bake the bread for about 30 minutes in a covered saucepan at a temperature of 230-240 degrees, after which we remove the lid and continue to bake the bread for 10-15 minutes.
Initially, the mistake was that you decided to bake this bread without kneading in a cartoon. In this particular recipe for bread without kneading, it is important to observe all the conditions listed: a saucepan with a lid, temperature, remove the lid and bake.
This is a very very specific recipe.
Catwoman
Girls, tell me please, where in Odessa you can buy a Dex-50 multicooker? And how much does it cost? It is desirable, if possible, online stores, their names and phone numbers. A friend is going to visit her relatives after June 20, she promised to bring them if I give her all the information. HELP!
Tell me more, will you have to pay something at the border? Thank you in advance!
Rina
if a friend is lucky for the technician for no more than 200 euros, then there will be no questions. Somewhere was with us topic about Ukrainian customs.

dex50 costs about 80-95 dollars, as I understand it, almost all sellers are ready to ship to Odessa
🔗
TyominaAlyona
Quote: Daffi

TyominaAlyona, write at least first impressions, what are the differences as a result between Dex and Panasonic. What is better in Panasonic, and what is better in dex?
I haven't had time to test all the possibilities of Dex. So far, I can only talk about "first impressions". I do not know if it is appropriate here, in this topic of comparing Panas and Dex, probably, this is still more for the topic "Choosing multicooker", there I thought to unsubscribe when there would be a little more considerations. Now I can say that the two multis complement each other well !!!
Panas is more compact compared to Dex, but simpler "decorated". The display is more user friendly in Dex.
It is very convenient in the holder for the scoop and spoon on the Dex's body, one of the Tescom's scapulae has become, like a native one.
The timer in Dex is very convenient, it is much easier to work with real time than to calculate on your fingers how many hours the dish should be ready.
Milk is something and there is no desire to try in Dex, it is so problem-free and good in Pan.
The absence of such a primitive and convenient thing as a drip tray (Panas has it) is surprising. Why is he NOT IN ALL cartoons? I do not like that the water flowing from the lid should be soaked on the body.
The grate for steam on legs is conveniently complemented by a hanging basket from Panas, I am very pleased. And it is more convenient to turn the pastries on the basket.
The fixed lid never bothered me in Panas - everything can be easily removed, and if I understand that, for example, oatmeal or tomato sauce can "spit" the lid, then I just put a steam basket on top and the lid remained unharmed. Therefore, in Dex I am not at all embarrassed by the fixed lid.
I appreciated the frying modes in Dex at different temperature programs, it's really convenient. The cartoon turned out fried potatoes, cool. To brown the meat faster than baked goods in Pan. I will also try the baking mode in Dex for the same purpose.
I did not appreciate the "boiling" mode for soups, it boils too powerfully, the scheme is also appropriate here, as in Panas - stewing.
In principle, I really like stewing in Pan - without adding liquid, in its own juice, calm. Vegetables perfectly keep their shape, juicy, meat does not turn into a "carcass".
Baking in Dex turns out to be more ruddy-fried, with a more pronounced crust, but not critical. It seems that in Pan a little rises a little higher, but I do not presume to argue - in me and in the oven in the same forms, two loaves of the same dough and of the same mass may slightly differ in height and width But, in general, it seemed that Panas may be longer, but more careful bakes. I will practice more, I will be more categorical in judgments.

In general, a bearded anecdote comes to mind about two gobies on a hillock - young, zealous and wise, unhurried, who make plans about cows grazing at a distance. Everyone has their own approaches and methods.
SeredaG
Quote: Catwoman

Girls, tell me please, where in Odessa you can buy a Dex-50 multicooker? And how much does it cost? It is desirable, if possible, online stores, their names and phone numbers. A friend is going to visit relatives after June 20, she promised to bring them if I give her all the information. HELP!
Tell me more, will you have to pay something at the border? Thank you in advance!

I found it in such a store 🔗 and was also in the technoray store, it seems at the best price in Odessa 🔗
Daffi
TyominaAlyona, thanks for the post, I hope there will be more posts comparing dex and panasonic.

I believe that the Boil mode is quite convenient when you need to quickly bring the liquid to a boil, this really saves time, the water boils in a couple of minutes, the cartoon squeaks, and you can calmly or throw vegetables for cooking or turn off the mode and continue cooking on Stew or Simmer or Warm ...
Not all soups are cooked on the boil, but only vegetable puree soups, where you need to completely boil vegetables, in general, you still need to study recipes for dex and clones in order to understand which dishes are best cooked in which mode.
I cannot understand where the information came from that dex does not extinguish without liquid. I deliberately turned on all the modes one by one with an empty pan. All modes worked for me.
And what do you stew without liquid in Panasonic? Maybe you can try to do the same in Dex, but what if it works?
inusia
I found it in such a store 🔗 and was also in the technoray store, it seems at the best price in Odessa 🔗

The price is really good, I bought from them a month ago!
TyominaAlyona
Quote: Daffi

I cannot understand where the information came from that dex does not extinguish without liquid. I deliberately turned on all the modes one by one with an empty pan. All modes worked for me.
Oh, you shouldn't "drive" an empty saucepan. And, as far as I understand (but have not yet personally encountered it), the point is that the Extinguishing mode starts immediately, and after a short period of time it switches to heating.

Quote: Daffi

And what do you stew without liquid in Panasonic? Maybe you can try to do the same in Dex, but what if it works?
Yes, in fact, everything and carcass in Panas without adding liquid. I like boiled pork unproblematic, for example. Aaaa, nope, I'm lying! I cook stewed soup with liquid. I like that I immediately throw all the vegetables (from potatoes to cabbage) into the borschik at the same time and the cabbage does not turn into rags. I don't know yet how it works in Dex.
I didn't mean at all that the "Boil" mode in Dex was useless, by no means, just in the only slightly familiar to me cartoon Perfese, the "Soup" mode was clearly softer.

And I also remembered. I read reviews about the new Dexes "ambering" with plastic. On the first evening, I washed everything thoroughly, left it to ventilate. In the morning she drove away by boiling, "welded" the steam grate. No problem. No smell. Actively and biased sniffing.

I have already said that I was looking for something "hotter" and budgetary in a pair with Panas. At the moment I am happy with the choice, I hope that I will not have to be disappointed. If we compare the cost of Panasonkin in 1.5 thousand UAH. and Dexin the price is 600 UAH, then Dex is just a YOUNG MAN!
oriana
Quote: TyominaAlyona

I have already said that I was looking for a pair of something "hot" and budgetary for Panas. At the moment I am happy with the choice, I hope that I will not have to be disappointed.
Here's how you and I, Alenka, it turns out ...
You were looking for something hotter in a pair with Panas, and I was looking for something softer and quieter in a pair with Perfeza, at this stage of testing, I think that I was not mistaken either and found exactly a soft-mode machine to help my boiled Perfeza
Catwoman
Rina, SeredaG, inusia! Thanks for the help! : girl_love: I have been dreaming about this slow cooker for six months already, but as luck would have it, everyone stopped going on business trips. Can I ask one more question? How much is hryvnia in relation to our rubles?
lesik_l
Quote: Catwoman

How much is hryvnia in relation to our rubles?
In Privatbank
Buy Sell
USD 7.970 8.005
EUR 11.43 11.67
RUB 0.282 0.289
Daffi
TyominaAlyona, I wrote that it stank of plastic. I didn't have Chinese household appliances before, so I didn't know that I had to wash them all from head to toe.
Boiling is still not Soup, but rather Cooking, I already wrote this somewhere. There is no Soup mode in dex, but in the American dex clone our Stew mode is called Soup, in it you can set the time from several minutes to 4 hours. So you can safely cook soups on stew.
And where can you read how to make boiled pork?
Catwoman
Quote: lesik_l

In Privatbank
Buy Sell
USD 7.970 8.005
EUR 11.43 11.67
RUB 0.282 0.289

lesik_l, thanks! Did I understand correctly that the hryvnia needs to be multiplied by about 0.3 (if by rubles)? Or not?
lesik_l
1 rub = 28.2 kopecks Ukrainian
X UAH = Y RUB * 0.282
Daffi
Divide the rubles by 3,546 and you get the amount in hryvnia.
Accordingly, you see the amount in hryvnia, multiply in your mind by 3.546 and get the amount in rubles
Jefry
Quote: Daffi

There is no Soup mode in dex, but in the American dex clone our Stew mode is called Soup, in it you can set the time from several minutes to 4 hours
From a few minutes - is it for a clone? In dex, extinguishing is from an hour and is set in hour increments. Or is it just me on these modes, the minutes are not set? Although there it is not really necessary ...
lesik_l
I can change the minutes too
Daffi
Quote: Jefry

From a few minutes - is it for a clone? In dex, extinguishing is from an hour and is set in hourly increments. Or is it just me on these modes are not exposed? Although there it is not really necessary ...
Yes, you can ask a clone for less than an hour.
In our dex, you can set from an hour to four, minutes can be set. You can set 1 hour 03 minutes or 2 hours 51 minutes
lesik_l
Quote: Daffi

Yes, you can ask a clone for less than an hour.

I want a clone
Daffi
Quote: lesik_l

I want a clone
But they have no Yearning.
Lydysya
Quote: Catwoman

lesik_l, thanks! Did I understand correctly that the hryvnia needs to be multiplied by about 0.3 (if by rubles)? Or not?

It turns out at the rate for today

100 hryvnia = 346 rubles

If Dex costs about 650 hryvnia = 2250 rubles
lesik_l
I understand everything, except one: where does 346 come from?

Almost everywhere the rate for a penny is different, if in Privat 282 - then the difference is 60 kopecks - isn't it too much?
Lydysya
Quote: lesik_l

I understand everything, except one: where does 346 come from?

Almost everywhere the rate for a penny is different, if in Privat 282 - then the difference is 60 kopecks - isn't it too much?

In Privatbank
Buy Sell
USD 7.970 8.005
EUR 11.43 11.67
RUB 0.282 0.289

It turns out 1 ruble = 0.289 UAH.

Accordingly, 1 hryvnia = 1 ruble / 0.289 = 3.46 rubles
Since we convert hryvnia into rubles, 650 hryvnia = 650 * 3.46 rubles = 2249 rubles

Daffi
Quote: lesik_l

I understand everything, except one: where does 346 come from?

Almost everywhere the rate for a penny is different, if in Privat 282 - then the difference is 60 kopecks - isn't it too much?
1 rub = 28.2 kopecks Ukrainian

That is, 100 Russian kopecks = 28.2 Ukrainian kopecks, hence 100 / 28.2 = 3.546099 = 3.564
That is, 1 hryvnia = 3.564 Russian rubles.

Oh already answered
Catwoman
Girls, thanks for the recount, otherwise I'm confused. If I give 3000 rubles. should be enough? Husband has already beaten. Now he asks why do I need 4 multicooker? And I SHOULD!
Daffi
Quote: Catwoman

Girls, thanks for the recount, otherwise I'm confused. If I give 3000 rubles. should be enough? Husband has already been truncated. Now he asks why do I need 4 multicooker? And I SHOULD!
If Dex-50 costs 650 UAH, it means that it is 2316.60 Russian rubles, provided that the rate does not change.
lesik_l
Quote: Catwoman

Now he asks why do I need 4 multicooker?

Well, I can't resist

I noticed where you are from and: Chelyabinsk housewives are so harsh that even three slow cookers are not enough for them !!!!!!
TyominaAlyona
Quote: lesik_l

I want a clone
What for?

Quote: Catwoman

Now he asks why do I need 4 multicooker? And I SHOULD!
I, too, quietly curiosity again: "Why?"


Maybe I need it too ?!
Catwoman
Quote: lesik_l

Well I can’t resist

I noticed where you are from and: Chelyabinsk housewives are so harsh that even three slow cookers are not enough for them !!!!!!

lesik_l, this is probably greed or illness, although they are all in my use, I rarely use the stove. My husband said that I needed to be treated, and that I had to start by cutting off the Internet. Although he really likes the pressure cooker, he admitted it himself. Especially meat is cooked in it for 30 minutes, which must be cooked on the stove for 4 hours.
Do you have one slow cooker? Are you enough? Maybe I’m already lazy, what beauty I have pressed everywhere on the buttons and you are surfing the Internet again looking for something

TyominaAlyona, Need, Need! That's why you need to turn everything on and do your favorite thing

Daffi, I hope it will not change and they will not disappear from sales.

What kind of clone?

TyominaAlyona
Quote: Catwoman

Need, Need! That's why you need to turn everything on and do your favorite thing
this is probably greed or illness, although they are all in my use, I rarely use the stove. My husband said that I needed to be treated, and that I had to start by cutting off the Internet. Although he really likes the pressure cooker, he admitted it himself. Especially meat is cooked in it for 30 minutes, which must be cooked on the stove for 4 hours.
Do you have one slow cooker? Are you enough? Maybe I’m already lazy, what beauty I have pressed everywhere on the buttons and you are surfing the Internet again looking for something

Devaysogolism is understandable to me, I myself would have dragged into the house everything that mesmerized or impressed in the store. But, my appetites are not commensurate with the budget. Ehhh .... That's why I'm trying to control myself. That's why you wrote about the pressure cooker. I have been looking at her for a long time, but I understand that this noise is not needed every day (although, at times, oh, how I would like to have it) Now, now I have again bad thoughts swarming in my head ...
What kind of cartoons do you have? What is their specialization? Realized that one is a pressure cooker, and the other two are "for what are they sharpened"? And why is Dex the choice of the fourth?
oriana
Quote: TyominaAlyona

That's why you wrote about the pressure cooker. I have been looking at her for a long time, but I understand that this noise is not needed every day (although, at times, oh, how I would like to have it) Now, now I have again bad thoughts swarming in my head ...
Just about ... you have no conscience ... at all .... my next purchase is planned for a pressure cooker, I'm already browsing the forums ...
I'm just afraid that it won't work out very soon ... but you tease
SupercoW
Quote: lesik_l

I noticed where you are from and: Chelyabinsk housewives are so harsh that three multicooker is not enough for them !!!!!!
lesik_l, I wanted to say the same thing right away.
Catwoman, are you not offended ??? we are loving !!! honestly!

Quote: TyominaAlyona

What for?
I, too, quietly curiosity again: "Why?"

Maybe I need it too ?!
how is that why ?! of course it is necessary !!!
There are never too many multicooker!

Quote: Catwoman

lesik_l, it's probably greed or disease
this is not a disease and not greed !!!
this is the most common practicality! I understand you perfectly.
we have already discussed in performances more than once ... someone comes and says: well, I realized that a cartoon is needed for one thing, and the rest is on the stove and in the oven, and then it comes as unhealthy as I say: since the purchase, the multi gas stove is closed and forgotten, one multi for five people is not enough - you need some more ...
to each his own. here it is personally convenient for me to do EVERYTHING in a multicooker! came threw food, pressed the button and forgot ... came and eat. I dreamed about this principle of cooking for years.

I just glance at the pressure cooker, but I haven't made up my mind yet. although, if the kitchen allowed, I would have bought it long ago.

Quote: Catwoman

Maybe I’m already lazy, what beauty I have pressed everywhere on the buttons and you are surfing the Internet again looking for something
yeah !!! I am also not overjoyed with such a passive process!
but I know - yes, I'm lazy! awful! and still a lot of cartoons - it's convenient!

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