Washing machine: which one to buy

[Anya]

Anya, and where's my mother? Have they returned?)
I don't like surprises in large purchases. ((Well, unless the gift is made by someone who is well versed in the subject.

Congratulations on your assistant. 55 cm is the best option - not large, and not small.

[Tanyusha]

But I don't need 1400 revolutions and 7 kg of washing. The material of the tank is plastic, now I look at many cars.

This opinion has not yet been enjoyed by such, or washing from time to time.
When there is enough washing, especially in summer dampness, the laundry dries in less than an hour.
In addition, the more high-speed ones have a completely different quality of both mechanics and control electronics.

You understand, all these kgs will never fit into cars, take about 1.5, or even 2 times less, unless of course you do not lay bricks with the laundry.

Tanyusha, Natalisha,
Alternatively, look at one of the most inexpensive, but quite worthy Midea MV-WMF610C.
On the Yandex market from 11.6 tons.
At the same time 1000 rev., Up to 6 kg.

[A citizen]

A citizen, thanks for the advice.

[Natalisha]

Natalisha, Natalia, China (Midea, Hansa) I do not advise, only in case of great financial difficulties. There is a list of manufacturers of laundry, it was given in the topic above. The item is expensive, heavy, long-term use, often mercilessly exploited, savings can "go sideways".

The item is expensive, heavy, long-term use, often mercilessly exploited, savings can "go sideways".

I have often exploited this for sure. I am very grateful to my Vyatka Katyusha. Served me faithfully for 11 years. Now, when spinning, it shakes very strongly, like on takeoff.

[Natasha]

Natasha, now I thought. In Samsung, all modes are quite long. There is a fast one, for 15-20 minutes. But I only use it if I need to freshen up the thing (I just washed the towels for the arrival of the guests). And so the modes are long, but I like it. I don't understand washing in an hour with a bunch of rinses, I always add an additional rinse.

I don't understand washing in an hour with a bunch of rinses, I always add an additional rinse.

That's for sure. People have a very strange approach to time. You can't wash anything normally, let alone rinse it out in less than 50-60 minutes. Especially if there are not three handkerchiefs in the drum, which are easily soaked with regular water and just as easily part with it.) And give people a wash for half an hour, or even better for 15 minutes.))

Once I spotted it, now I don't remember the details, but in the program, a monstrous time falls on the stage of filling / draining / spinning. In my machine, each rinse added adds 15 minutes to the total wash time. But yes, the car is top-end, and rinses (as well as washes) very well.

It is very convenient when you can start both a full rinse cycle separately and one rinse when you forgot to pour the rinse aid. In my Ariston Margarita cashmere, this is possible, but recently I used Bosch, he was 2 years old, there only a full rinse cycle can be started with a separate program. This is a minus to him. But why are there two programs of fast and super fast washing, well, what are they for? If you only adapt the soaking on them ... Soak and leave in the machine, and wash on another program later. And the programs are somehow incomprehensible: sportswear, synthetics, mixed, children's. My machine is clear: cotton, delicate wash, wool and curtains. Here, on a delicate wash, all these synthetics are washed, mixed, etc., and there I just hung there, wondering what to put.I chose those that last longer, just set my temperature and spin settings. And Bosch is not cheap, and European assembly, I know, because I myself chose for my parents.

start a full rinse cycle separately and one rinse

What's the difference?

[Natalisha]

NatalishaNatalia, of course, each user chooses the basic functions that are needed, for me an important criterion when choosing a machine was the functionality with gentle wash, a normal display with a normal countdown of the washing time, a timer and "Time Manager", everything else was a secondary or pleasant bonus.

[Bijou]

Bijouhow is it in what? In the number of rinses. There are several of them in the full cycle. And the rinse aid is added to the very last rinse.

And I also really like the "Blankets-Plaids" program. True, this is a pre-installed program, and nothing can be changed in it (40C, time - 1.45, 800 rpm), but it washes and rinses out just great - it pours water in bulk.

I see how it is in what? In the number of rinses. There are several of them in the full cycle.

Strange ... In my Bosch, only one program "Rinse" is displayed as a separate item. That is, there are washing programs, and there are separate Rinse, Spin and Drain programs. Should there be two rinses at once, or what? Long and single? So I can attach a few to this single, only 3 or 4 will turn out.

washes and rinses out just great - pours water in bulk.

You will laugh. I have a large Bosch, in which "water is not visible" and a small Beko of 6 kilos, which pours water to the middle of the hatch. It erases, by the way, for a very long time, but the duration is not displayed on the display, so I do not know the time. So Bosch will wash and rinse the laundry in less time. Into a paradox, right? On Byaka, I quickly learned to immediately turn the program on again without powder in order to rinse out normally.))

[Lena]

I have a big Bosch, in which "water is not visible"

Lena, how many kg do you have Boshik?

You will laugh.

Gyyy, yes, I remember you already wrote that the amount of water is not always an indicator of a quality wash or rinse.
But here's the thing: I also washed my old Lyuska plush blankets on cotton (well, she didn't have a million different programs, and half of them, as it turned out, didn't need nafik), only the spin speed reduced and that's it. And despite the fact that the plush blanket is pure synthetics, it still seemed to me that on "Synthetics" it would not rinse properly, simply because there is no spin between rinses. Rather, it is there, but so short that it is not worth mentioning. And the mass of the blanket itself - mamadaragai! So I washed myself calmly on cotton - everything was wonderful. But the new Lyuska squeezes the water, erase! No, seriously, as if she pays for the water!
So, out of old habit, I threw a blanket over the Cotton. She took it out, laid it horizontally on the dryer and saw that in the very middle he was somehow ... somehow not like that, in short. Not as fluffy as everywhere else. So a suspicion crept in: either it was not washed, or it was not rinsed properly. Didn't rewash. But when the next time I threw it on the "Blankets-plaids" (fortunately, I already knew what results this program gives), then the blanket turned out as good as new. So I think that in this particular case, it is precisely the amount of water that is involved, because you simply cannot stretch the blanket or blanket with that mug of water that this tiny viper Lyuska pours in.

little viper Lyuska.

[Bijou]

Lyuska at LG?

Added on Tuesday 04 Oct 2016 03:21 PM

Bijou, so I say that there is only one Rinse program in Boch, it is a cycle of several rinses, well, just like a washing program, only without washing, but only rinsing. And in Ariston (not to be confused with Ariston Hotpoint) there is such a position on a delicate wash - rinsing with rinse aid, it is highlighted with a separate item, and if I forget to pour rinse aid, and already two rinsing circles the machine has already plowed two put), then I just pour the rinse aid and put this one rinse. Ariston is generally a thoughtful machine

Lyuska at LG?

Nope, this is ElektroLusuk.

Lenkaaaa, and what size rugs do you wash? I also have this little baby Lyuska, so I'm afraid to stick my both two double blankets into it (well, one at a time, of course)

And, by the way, I got used to this greedy person a long time ago, I accompany all the washing. by rinsing, not with a button plus to the main mode, but with separate additional ones. mode "Rinse"

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, and, clearly, I initially chose Electrolysis for my parents, but the necessary model was not available and bought Bosch.

[Rinse, it is a cycle of several rinses]

So I think that in this particular case, it is precisely the amount of water that is involved, because you simply cannot stretch the blanket or blanket with that mug of water that this tiny viper Lyuska pours in.

I remember that I washed one blanket twice in my Vaska ... Or a blanket? In short, I don’t know what to call THIS, but it was shoved into the drum exclusively “from the foot.” ((Water machine lila-lila, lila-lila .. It stopped twice with the error “Is the tap closed?”, They say, there is no such thing that during this time it was not possible to draw water. So I poured another bucket through the trough or even more with a ladle. Poor thing, how he groaned ... It's a pity to watch. (Well, since then, the shock absorber has been tapping.

And the most amazing thing is that everything was washed off! And rinsed off. Straight some miracles ... This plaid was a pug abundantly recorded and carefully decorated with her own wool. After drying (damn it, I barely even lifted it when wrung out in a basin) there was no smell, no wool.

Lena, how many kg have you got Boshik?

Well, now they write 9 kg on this, but before they wrote 8.)

Biju, so I say that there is only one program in Boch Rinse, it is a cycle of several rinses, well, that's the same as for the washing program, only without washing, but only rinsing.

I hear it for the first time.

[Bijou]

Bozhmoy, are there shock absorbers in the washing machine?
Bijou, how do you know everything

Lenkaaaa, and you wash what size blankets? I also have this little baby Lyuska, so I'm afraid to stick my both two double blankets into it (well, one at a time, of course)

Ir, et sarya, what a "double" one for cha. If the "euro" (200x220), then it may stupidly not fit. Well, or not to prostrate. I have one such, huge, Spanish (at the time when there was no trace of Chinese here), and so, it does not fit (well, finally, I didn’t try, because, I’m afraid, it doesn’t stretch). In the old car, in which the drum was 5.5 kegs, he, of course, did not fit, and did not fit into the new 8 kg.
But wait, I measured another blanket especially for you (it has such a strange size - 180x230) - it is easily erased, despite the fact that it is thick, it looks like a muton, and practically clogs the drum with itself.
So, if your blankets are at least a bit similar in size to this one, wash them boldly.

So if they are there, why not know about them?
I'll say scary - I even know their part number for ordering. But relatives are expensive, it would be necessary to pick up an alternative option at a local store. It was I who ditched the pump for Bosch, poked my head into the Internet shops - 2-3 thousand are caught by the car number. The husband unscrewed the pump, looked at her carefully - yeah, five hundred rubles. And in the store finally sold for 450.

The same nonsense with the heating element. I accidentally discovered that the car does not heat water. She washes with me always at night and alone, so I know how she does it?)) And here she spent the night with a sick dog in the kitchen and was surprised that she washes and washes, but should rinse. It turns out that if it cannot heat water, then it greatly lengthens the wash. But what difference does it make to me, I hang up impeccable linen in the morning and have no idea at all ... I also looked - my own heating element is worth dofigisch. And in a shop similar (and even more powerful a bit) for 200 rubles instead of two thousand bought. Change the man's work for half an hour.))

Bijou, how do you know everything

I already resigned myself to this.
And I don't even try to ask this question. "It" simply exists and that's it.

Yes, they are like that. They stand from the bulldozer. I ran into this when I was looking for hinges for the built-in refrigerator. The workshop called the price of 5 thousand plus 2 per installation. Well, these are prices from four years ago.
As a result, I was going to buy in a spare parts store for 3 thousand, looked at the number according to the secret catalog, but it was not available and was allowed to write down the number.
I found this loop by number, already for 1600 and set the mushroom for free.

The most secret is the catalogs with part numbers

[Elena Tim]

The most secret is the catalogs with part numbers

I know a couple of such services. Where you enter the model number and bam - an exploded drawing with numbers.

Elena Tim, oh, I would say ... Timkin pretended to be a "blonde", yeah.
* Recently we are talking with one very smart lady, she supplements for some phrase, they say, but for girls it would be necessary to add this to make it clearer. I say - well, it's understandable that this is so ... Does she know what she says?
- Okay, - he says, - Biju, we cross you out of the girls ... *

[sazalexter]

sazalexter,
You might think the boshes and aristons are not collected in China, or even worse in Poland.

I accompany all washing add. by rinsing, not with a button plus to the main mode, but with separate additional ones. mode "Rinse"

Me and add. button, and add. mode. And I have Luksya.

little baby Lyuska

I guessed

I have a big Bosch, in which "water is not visible"

I have the same, stand up water wash , for 8 kg. ...

I'm glad !!!

[Crochet]

Crochet, in! It's big, even "when you can't see" in it - a bucket of water is already dangling at the bottom of the tank.

I read and read you and get even more confused. I had, or rather I have, Electrolux, 1046, it seems that I am not at home now, I can’t see it, it has been serving faithfully for 13 years already. 3 children “washed and went out”, started almost every day for these 13 years. It's good if only once! I don't wash it by hand at all, my hands immediately crack, it's more expensive for me. But last year I started to swear, like E during washing, I will conjure with him, reset the programs, then manually rinse, spin, and I achieve it. It happens for a couple of weeks, then starts again. Now I'm thinking about a new typewriter. I wonder if drying is needed (oh, how I hate ironing !!!!!). Want a reliable "horse", what to look at? Advise the model. Throws from Ski to Electrolux, Siemens, sometimes they look at Millie and again in a circle ...

[Leila]

or rather there is, Electrolux, 1046,

Leila, I have the same model, and she is also 13! years . This year, immediately after the New Year, it stopped working. They called the master, he changed the brushes (they were erased in 13 years - that's normal) and some other detail (I don't remember exactly) - but it was at our discretion. He said that the car will delight us for a long time. This was the first major renovation.
Can you repair it too. Please note that most cars are now of much worse quality than older ones.

Today the brushes of their Electrolux 1046 were changed independently, two years ago the bearings. Works since 2002, washes great.

Today, their Electrolux 1046 has changed their own brushes, two years ago the bearings

And we had to call the master - we are not so cool. Only the little pump was repaired by ourselves.

Posted on Friday 07 Oct 2016 4:56 PM

washes perfectly.

I'm happy too. I like the Soak program very much.

I like the Soak program very much.

O-O-O .... it's a thing !!!

What is this Soak program?

What is this Soak program?

20 minutes. at 30 gr. the laundry in the machine is, as it were, "lazily" washed, then the drum will vibrate, well, maybe several times a minute - this mode can be left for a maximum of 18 hours (like this - never left it for so long), or turn off the machine when needed will drain the water. With this mode, even very dirty laundry is washed
I don't know - did you explain it clearly?

Soak program.

I also use it often!

[vatruska]

vatruska, jelen, glad you like it too. Now someone else will know about the Soak program. It is also found in some of today's cars.

It is of fundamental importance to me that the machine drains out after the Soak program.
So that's it. Miele, which I successfully returned to the store, did not drain the water after this program, but continued to wash it in the dirty broth.
From this it served as the first and last straw in her fate.
Although I rarely use this program. Pre-wash for me decides a lot

[Lelka]

Pre-wash for me decides a lot

Lelka, more?

[Natalisha]

Natalisha, Natasha, I wash with a prewash. It lasts 25 minutes. Then there is a drain, spinning and pouring water into the main wash.
The powder for the preliminary wash is one third of the norm, and therefore, two thirds is the main wash.
Lingerie does not bathe in dirty water. The pre-wash washes away the first dirt.

[OlgaGera]

OlgaGera, with all this, it just turns out a longer wash ... Unfortunately, when I was looking for a washing machine on sale, soaking was only for full-sized ones, which simply would not fit into the bathroom in terms of dimensions ...
In my personal opinion, an ideal machine should have soaking, short wash, wool wash (if the blankets are washed, it’s very good), spinning well for 1000 minutes and no water saving in figs ...

[preliminary]

In my personal opinion, the ideal machine should have a soak, short wash, wool wash ...

AND preliminary.
Because, as rightly noted OlgaGera, there is no point in rubbing heavily dirty laundry in a dirty solution - it would be nice to replace it with a clean one.)) Especially important with babies, bedridden patients and those who like to get dirty in the ground or fuel oil. Then the main dirt goes away and then almost usually soiled laundry is washed.

And the imitation of soaking and manually is easy to organize, if you do not put it with a delay for the night - clicked on Pause, so it turned sour for the extra minutes. Of course, it is more pleasant with drum shaking, but you can do it if you really want to.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, yeah, everything is clear. Good program.

Added on Monday 10 Oct 2016 11:27 AM

It is of fundamental importance to me that the machine drains out after the Soak program.
So that's it. Miele, which I successfully returned to the store, did not drain the water after this program, but continued to wash it in the dirty broth.
From this it served as the first and last straw in her fate.
Although I rarely use this program. Pre-wash for me decides a lot

So the point of soaking is that the laundry lies in the water, if the water is drained by the machine, and you are not yet ready to wash it further, then it will wrinkle more. And so, he came when it is convenient, he drained the water with the program "Drain the water", you can put a small spin and continue washing. I do this without a separate Soak program.

Added on Monday 10 Oct 2016 11:32 AM

Or is Soaking going there as a stage of one program, followed by the main wash? Then yes.

if the water is drained by the machine and you are not ready to wash

Yes, it will merge only after 18 hours (this was the case with my old Lyuska, anyway). So sho, during this time you can thoroughly prepare for the main wash. Morally, taksyazyat.

And the imitation of soaking and manually is easy to organize, if you do not put it with a delay for the night - clicked on Pause, so it turned sour for the extra minutes. Of course, it is more pleasant with drum shaking, but you can do it if you really want to.

That's exactly what I do. There is no soak program, but I like to pre-soak. I put on the shortest program (15 min-7 min. Wash and one rinse). The linen gets wet, shakes for about 2 minutes, I press pause and run on business. I came in, took it off the pause, the program is over, I put on the main wash. I have adapted, I like it.

I always soak on the "duvet" + "intensive" program, because it is this program that draws water more than any other.After 25-30 minutes I pause and set a delay of 3-4 hours (or just turn it off, and then set a short one). After 3-4 ... hours, when the program is unscrewed, I turn on the main wash.

Here you have pliable cars. Mine, on the other hand, will not tolerate a program change without draining the water and turning it off.
Only within 5 minutes from the beginning of the program can I change something. Then that's it, the train left ..

with all this, a longer wash is simply obtained ...

how to say .. Milka can increase and decrease the washing time at its discretion. Depends on the amount of powder, set parameters. Which programm.
On one program, pressing the Short button, the time decreases by 10 minutes, on the other - by 30.
Cars are different.

Yes, it will merge only after 18 hours

in-in, I had it in 6 hours. This car was ready to kill ..

Now chemistry rules. Any stains can be removed in a wash cycle with the correct powder. And why soak? for 3-6 hours.
During this time, it is washed and dried and reddened again.But this is my opinion