Washing machine: which one to buy

[Helena]

Helena, my mother's fourth lg has been plowing since 2003, the pump broke a couple of times a year, so at the eighth life and at 11. The first pump was changed by the master, and dad looked, the second time dad himself. Until now, the baby lg is working on 3.5 kg, too, 2002 - she survived 4 moves - she squeezes better than the big old woman. Since 2015, the mother-in-law lg has a new 45 cm 7 kg and a month ago I bought myself the same sizes, but newer. All new models run quietly (wash and spin), but draw water very loudly. I sleep sound baby sleep - it does not bother me. All smart machines (mother-in-law and mine) weigh the laundry and, based on the weight and the selected temperature, calculate the washing time and water consumption. This is a tendency for all modern machines of any company - a course towards saving resources. Bed with boiling, two rinses can wash 3:50. About comfortable cartoons - for me this is a half load; for a lie it is a turbo wash, I am still that raccoon a gargle and can wash one sweater. Do not forget that any manufacturer recommends a full load for cotton, for synthetics, a full load is half of the maximum load of cotton, for wool and silk, even less. Therefore, after filling three blankets into a machine with a load of 7 kg, there is no need to complain that you did not stretch and did not rinse. In general so. Good luck and pleasant agony of choice. And the panel is very sensitive! On older washing machines of my mother's, mother-in-law of 2015, brighter display numbers (red and orange and a temperature selection wheel) I have a white backlight on white and there is no wheel - older parents are hard to see.

Ladies, advise a standard washing machine! Which one to choose? My Hansa broke down after 13 years.

I have a Samsung for 15 years. (Maybe more.) no bells and whistles, the most common. I use 2 modes (Fast and Cotton, when I want to wash in hot water for a long time).
True, now a tempting function has appeared: a window for forgotten things, so to speak. But so far the price is too high. We wait

[Helena]

Helena, the second Samsung has been working for two years at work. He washes an entire surgical department in it, some of them carry bed bags from home to laundry, without enthusiasm. Loud, washes so-so, but it seems to work

[Ketsal]

Do not forget that any manufacturer recommends a full load for cotton, for synthetics, a full load is half of the maximum load of cotton, for wool and silk, even less.

very, very valuable information, Ketsal, Olga,
.................
today I had a repairman for washing machines, but I haven't had them for a long time
this repairman from the service center, arrived with a laptop, on it he immediately spotted what was being repaired, how many washes the machine did and why he was called


for 10 years the machine washed me 3150 times, in!

I replaced the worn out brushes, they were designed for 2,000 or so thousand washes, mine were already coming to an end, the machine went on strike, did not turn on the programs, well, I checked all sorts of connections with my little things - real and virtual

advised every six months to drive the car with a special. means - heh, it turned out, I already know - there is a remedy with citric acid, but I wash all sorts of rugs with acidic means anyway - so I turned out to be great

I also praised that I do not wash with powders, from which I need to clean the car with a lemon, but with liquid detergents - they, grit, are generally safe for the machine, deposits in the place where the crosspiece is attached to the shaft, like from powder, do not give
......
and also said that my Aristosha is still a real Italian

Aristoche is still a real Italian

how lucky you are.Thanks for the information, I read it with interest. I especially liked the master who came, what a fine fellow, I was directly envious

it's just that I have a real Asko, Sweden-made wisely, (that's how I now call the bandura standing on the balcony) premium class .... if it doesn't work, 1.5 years and kapets .. the program just flew off .. reprogramming is not here could, but the replacement of the unit must be ordered in entu Sweden .... it costs like a washer is not a premium class .... I bought LG, since then I have bypassed any premium class

for 10 years the machine washed me 3150 times, in!

How did he figure it out? Or did you say that on Sundays at you her day off?

nowhere from anyone to hide or hide

How did he figure it out?

on your computer, yeah

there he has such a table about a typewriter, this is about cars from a plateau, you can find out everything, but less smart cars and more secretive

very, very valuable information

And most importantly, it is accessible, because each instruction contains.

advised every six months to drive the car with a special. means - heh, it turned out, I already know - there is a remedy with citric acid, but I wash all sorts of rugs with acidic means anyway - so I turned out to be great

Oh, what do you wash in acids? Maybe I need it too? And then I always forget to boil a machine with a lemon, and our water is solid lime. ((

praised for the fact that I do not wash with powders, from which I need to clean the car with a lemon

Oh, just got it .. Why clean the machine from powders with lemon? Scale is cleaned with lemon, and scale is extracted from hard water. In powders, there are substances that prevent its precipitation (inhibitors). Some of us troit, or me, or the master.

I have a tumble dryer. Soon 4 years. I have no words. I'm glad. Before that, the Vyatka machine of 1991 (!!!). There were no problems with washing at all, unlike friends, relatives and neighbors. I was also very happy. And between them, from 2006 to 2013, there was some, for sure. But I got so used to this kind of comfort that the second didn't evoke any emotions, I don't even remember the company.
And, the last one with drying Electrolux.

Scale with lemon

as the master explained to me - scale is formed more from powders - there is a direct connection = hard water - powders do not dissolve well - settle at high t on accessible metal parts

here we lived in Tajikistan - I washed the dishes with shampoo, there were no liquid detergents (until a kind woman advised me to use ammonia for softening) - and the dishes were washed and there was no soap deposit on the walls of the basin

what do you wash in acids?

door mats, husband's clothes after the garden, in general, mixed with another detergent, and after such rather sanitary detergents, rinse + baking soda to neutralize acid (oxalic or the same lemon)

as the master explained to me - scale is formed more from powders - there is a direct connection = hard water - powders do not dissolve well - settle at high t on accessible metal parts

Clear. I mean, the point of view of the master is understandable, although I have never heard this before in my life. On the contrary, other masters explained why it is very harmful to pour too much powder into the machine - the phosphates contained in it sometimes stick to the heating element, but they are not removed with acids. They are generally not removed by chemistry in everyday conditions, only physical cleaning. Well, in appearance, these growths differ from scale. And even in industrial installations, phosphates that have settled on the needles of the electrodes are stripped off mainly by hand - they do not dissolve in anything, alas. So they are our weak organic acid that is like grain to an elephant.)

door mats, husband's clothes after the garden, in general, mixed with another detergent, and after such rather sanitary detergents

So what is the acidic agent? Not vinegar or lemon ... But what and why?

an acidic agent

any means for washing plumbing, they always contain some acids

Yeah. What exactly do they launder? Doesn't harm tissues? And then my husband has a couple of old stains from grease on his home clothes, and I think, can I also need it?)) If alkaline powders are not taken, can the acid work?

And what exactly do they launder?

Len, leave me alone from the old lady

I wash the least valuable things - do not drive the washing machine separately with a lemon

well you know me - don't waste anything

leave me alone

I got out.

[Taya]

but I think no detergent will take old grease



Taya, but what to do .. YOUNG You see how meticulous

[Bijou]

Bijou, well, not everyone reads the instructions! Astar stains from fuel oil and other mineral oils are washed off with a bang by gasoline for lighters! Pour onto a cotton ball, rub and then wash

And old stains from fuel oil and other mineral oils are washed off with a bang by gasoline for lighters!

Oh, exactly ... Probably, gasoline from Zhiguli will work too? And the machine will not smell afterwards?

well you know me - don't waste anything

Well, yes ... It's just that I don't understand the chemistry of the process, that's why I doubt it. What if it would have washed off with the powder no worse? But it's certainly cheaper.)) By the way, not all acids are equally useful for a typewriter - the same oxalic acid in the wrong concentration can easily gobble up all the gloss from a shiny drum, causing it to become cloudy / gray. This is how people sometimes get pierced by pouring some "cleaning agents" into the machine. For example, such reviews were found on some kind of anti-scale for teapots (either a yellow or a blue bag with a black teapot), and more recently, even a specialized detergent for washing machines was also embarrassed. People bought in an online store on the advice of their own seller, drove the car with him, and take a drum from that one, and even blacker. They were very angry, the store apologized, apologized, I don’t remember how it ended, it is possible that they could change the machine at their own expense.)))



Oh, by the way. I can take a picture, but it's lazy.
I have an old Gourmet saucepan. The cover is made of stainless steel polished in the mirror. About 8 years ago I was cleaning the sink and accidentally dropped a few drops on this lid (it was lying next to it on the stove). And it didn't wash off right away, because I didn't notice. So on the shining surface, two distinct dark spots appeared. So they still have not gone anywhere.
But I can’t name exactly that tool .. What was it advertised in those years, Silit Bang or Komet? .. I don’t remember. I remember that it made my nose disgusting.)

[Bijou]

Bijou, from Zhiguli it will leave greasy stains, but from lighters no - in lighters some special gasoline - with a large octane number. The machine does not smell like sweat. And my mum poured the lecho stainless steel plate during the harvesting season - a stain has formed that has been living for five years

And in the village (here the water is hard, if not rainy) I add lemon (up to 1 tsp) to the first rinse of wool and knitwear, so that the linen is softer, which does not exclude the conditioner in the last rinse.

And my mum poured the lecho stainless steel plate during the harvesting season - a stain has formed that has been living for five years

Whoa! Has it turned gray, or what? Passivation of stainless steel with improvised acids at home, or what?))

[Bijou]

Bijou, matte dull spot, it seems whitish I don't remember

not all acids in a typewriter are equally useful

but I do not use acid in its pure form and do not use a large amount, so to speak - little by little, but regularly

even a specialized detergent for washing machines was also embarrassed.

exactly

What if it would have washed off with the powder no worse?

surely it is washed off no worse, most people wash with powders and everything is clean and good

I do not like the smell of powder, to buy very expensive and odorless (as they say) at first there was nowhere, and not for a wallet, and somehow it happened that I started to wash with liquid products, I liked it, and I wash it, I don’t urge it - just a statement fact, I'm comfortable

And so we bought a washer with a dryer for work. I run this miracle of technology. Maybe someone will come in handy. The cycle of washing cotton 60 degrees 2 hours 56 minutes, drying is switched on by hand after washing 3 hours 50 minutes. There is a program of washing and drying in 59 minutes, but as I understood this is an express wash in cold water in 15 minutes. Lingerie is really dry, but wrinkled !!!! like a cow chewed - an option to put the laundry in the closet and not ironing will not work. And the smell is specific, like after a dry heat, doctors will understand, it does not irritate me, it may be unpleasant for someone. In general, I liked how he washes white coats, I liked drying, I will test further

At IFA 2017, LG presented another washer and dryer combined into one design. A space-saving solution. And it's probably convenient - I just threw the laundry down from the washing machine, and sushi ... Boom, look ...

[forbid]

A space-saving solution.

It was fun on Khobot - a member of the forum needs a column of washer and dryer to save space. It seems, well, what could be more traditional?
Yeah, fuck! LG and Samsung forbid put dryers on your washers. Due to the flimsy design, or what?

Yeah, fuck! LG and Samsung prohibit the use of dryers on their washers.

Judging by the photos above, LG is now offering a comprehensive solution blessed by LG designers and marketers themselves ...

And like any hybrid blessed by marketers, flawed in terms of functionality?))

And like any hybrid blessed by marketers, flawed in terms of functionality?))

Sometimes the hybrid is better than the parents ... As far as I understand, there is soup, mechanically, separately, flies separately. It's just that all this is compact ... In terms of how it is managed, I have no idea ... Let's wait how it is implemented, and how convenient ...

Let's wait, how is this implemented, and how convenient ...

Where are we going to go?
If the drying is modern, with a heat pump, then it will be fine. Probably...

Washing and drying is very convenient, I have a hotpoint at home with drying, in a small space it helps a lot when there is nowhere to dry

[ninakot]

ninakot, how old is your Hotpoint? And who is the producer country?

I ask for advice!
We are going to buy a new DEU washing machine. But the activator type. Now I also have a DEU, air-bubble, absolutely from the first, dear, Korean, which also has dry cleaning !!!! She plowed with faith and truth for almost 30 years. But then she got stuck, stopped squeezing.
We decided to buy the same one (appeared in Citylink. They say - New!). It is, of course, not air-bubble, the drum is not plastic, but made of stainless steel, there is no dry-cleaning program, it also does not heat the water, but otherwise it seems to be the same. Even the control panel is similar. So I wanted to ask: who has activator machines (modern)? How is their wash quality? Do they wash their white laundry? Or is it a pipe dream now? Does it make sense to buy one?

And how are the machines from the DEU?
Does anyone have experience?



I was surprised by the recommendation in the passport for preventive cleaning with detergent and bleach.
Usually chlorine is absolutely contraindicated in typewriters.

I ask for advice!
We are going to buy a new DEU washing machine. But the activator type. Now I also have a DEU, air-bubble, one of the first, dear, Korean, which also has dry cleaning !!!! She plowed with faith and truth for almost 30 years. But then she got stuck, stopped squeezing.
We decided to buy the same one (appeared in Citylink. They say - New!). It is, of course, not air-bubble, the drum is not plastic, but made of stainless steel, there is no dry-cleaning program, it also does not heat the water, but otherwise it seems to be the same. Even the control panel is similar. So I wanted to ask: who has activator machines (modern)? How is their wash quality? Do they wash white laundry? Or is it a pipe dream now? Does it make sense to buy one?

There are no more people like you described.

[Cl]

Usually chlorine is absolutely contraindicated in typewriters.

And where does this information come from? In my old washing machine, there is even a special compartment in the detergent drawer with the icon Cl... And this is not for cleaning the CM itself, but specifically for washing clothes.

[lega]

lega,
From the DEU passport.

And where does this information come from?

Because bleach is completely alkaline, and in washing machines there is a silumin crosspiece.

[lega]

My old washing machine even has a special compartment in the detergent drawer with the Cl icon

I don't know about the old ones, but you can look at the new ones, there is a categorical prohibition.

Because bleach is completely alkaline, and in washing machines there is a silumin crosspiece.

It's not about alkali, it's about chlorine itself, which catalyzes corrosion, which even in school chemistry passes.



lega,
Here is a Bosch passport, a categorical ban on bleach, bottom page 22.

🔗

[Guzel62]

Guzel62, am I late with my answer? I am an ardent fan of DEU cars. My first plowed ... twenty years. She had a plastic tank and a plastic lid. I washed it, I kind of liked it. When she was completely dead, they also bought DEU from their hands. But it has a metal drum and a transparent plastic lid, eh! also the buttons are musical. This one does better. Why dont know.



I actually came. Now they are producing machines with a program stop and additional loading of linen. A friend bought a Samsung, only a window on the drum opens in it. Says it's better. They say either a completely wet tank or open a window. Does anyone have such cars?

Girls, I am looking for a washing machine repairman in Moscow - with hands and with a conscience.
Help!

The Gorenie washing machine has broken. Stopped spinning the drum. I don't even want to call the serviceman, I want a new car. In connection with the urgent need to purchase a washing machine, several questions arose.
1) where to put the old
The typewriter is about 8 years old, maybe it's all about the graphite brushes, or maybe not :)) but she bothered me. She has one drawback - the lack of a delayed start. And electricity at night is 4-5 times cheaper than during the day.
In Eldorado, there is often a recycling action, it turns out that this is a cool action. Not only is the equipment sold at a discount instead of the old one, but the old one is also taken away for free.
In Mvideo, at the moment, this service costs about 1.5 thousand, and subject to the simultaneous delivery of new equipment from the store.
Well, this is not the main problem, I will pay the Criminal Code for export.

And now about the agony of choice.
I read half of this topic and a bunch of different reviews on the entornet.
They praise Mila and the drying machines.
Mile would have bought, perhaps, closing her eyes and waving her hand in the amount, but she will not fit into the doorway for me. Here, damn it, firmA, only huge colossus in the line.

I started reading about drying machines. I liked very much how Lena Tim praises her Lyuska. I just want to, I want to. (I even ordered it from Mvideo yesterday)
I had a couple of questions about drying machines. Not only about Lyuska, but in general.
-in a separate dryer there is a filter that catches all kinds of dust and pellets. Even on YouTube yesterday I was impressed by what deposits are accumulating there. And where does this dust go in the washer and dryer ???
- When the machine dries, does it get very hot? Is the temperature in the bathroom going up? If it rises, is it tolerable, or is the sauna straight? And then I like to keep any cosmetics on a typewriter, my lipsticks will not melt?
- smell. Here I read the reviews, people complain about the foreign smell from the laundry.
- consumption of water and electricity. As I understand it, it cools with water, pours a lot into the sewer? About electricity I understand approximately that dofiga. I resigned myself to this :)

In short, from a heap of reviews about combined washer-dryers, I learned that Electrolusek is praised mainly. A couple of times I saw how Kandy was praised, once Samsung, but I never saw that the LV was praised. And on LV the price is tempting

Mush today a little prifigel from the announced amount
Share your impressions of the washer dryer

[Twig]

Twig, falsely our Guzel praised very much, but just one model - bubble, it seems, and with the inclusion of hot and cold water.She says that after her the linen is snow-white.

[Rita]

Rita, I need a standard connection, only the cold hose is removed.

And, another thing about car care with a dryer. Sometimes I drive the usual one with lemon or special chemicals. Do you need any special means and a special vehicle for drying?

[Twig]

Twig, Veta, the old one most likely just flew the bearing. You can try to post an ad on Avito and sell for 500-1000 rubles for spare parts. So Bosch was taken from us by one handy man - our bearing flew, the tank turned out to be non-separable and the repair was almost equal to the price of a new Samsung. Plus a long wait for a spare part (at least a month). Therefore, we bought a new car, and this was sold by ourselves. I posted an ad for 2000r. A man called and offered to pick her up for 1000 (he was far from us), I agreed - he himself took her away from us. The car was gone in less than a week.

[Anchic]

Anchic, that's what I was going to do. Maybe for what other parts someone needs.
I remember how we gave a huge TV (working, but very morally outdated) to Avito for 300r, it was such a pot-bellied bandura

[Twig]

Twig, Veta, I'll put in my 5 kopecks ... (do not throw slippers around those who know-versed in typewriters .. because it's useless, I'll stay with my opinion) By the way, I've already written somewhere about Asko (Sweden - done wisely ... the truth is where the mind is, I don't know .... the choice was Millet or Asko, at that time the consultant told me that Millet had returned .... of course Asko ... did not work and for 2 years she ordered to live long (no she the program simply fails, but it was not possible to reprogram ... Yes, I also wanted a metal drum, but then they remained only in premium type machines, so they burst. Therefore, I personally boycotte this premium, ...
Well, and most importantly, I think you just need to consult with the repairmen (maybe there are acquaintances or who of those who applied ... that is, find out which brands are least likely to be repaired

for example, the refrigerator from their parents was repaired by their Samsung, and the master named the years when their low-quality equipment was produced, there was a gadget that was out of order, then it was removed, I found out thoroughly that I also had this brand newer. So he said that now it is impossible to take Ariston and some others ... break down very often and repairs are expensive ...

When the Kaiser flew, the master told me - if you change, then take a direct drive (maybe now something new ... because it was a long time ago) - I didn't listen to him then ..... Now I have an LV ... not a bubble (I did not hear about this then) with steam washing - I do not turn it on (I study the instructions carefully, because after 3g I saw that it can also turn on from a smartphone)
It's about simple machines.
I can't say anything about drying, although I had experience - I ruined a bunch of linen (due to inexperience, I threw one size in and pulled out another
And I think an old machine can be offered to be sold for spare parts in a workshop .. with self-pickup

[Twig]

Twig, Veta, why not? The mile has a vertical loading - these can go wherever you want ... But actually, yes, the price ... and not everyone likes the vertical. If prices are not critical, then I would look at a machine with soaking and the ability to add laundry. And to take a lot of water!

[Svetlana777]

Svetlana777, Svetlana, I read about your adventures with Asko - done wisely and about Mila.
In Moscow, such repairmen, damn it. Just to talk. And shake off the money. There is always a lottery here, so I don't even want to call in to watch and fix it.
If anyone has contacts of a decent master, please respond. Olga asked in the winter, no one responded.
Yes, and a set of firms - everyone has their own favorite brands. In the store, those that will bring a greater percentage to the consultant. They praise very LV, but on ixbt they don't like them. Craftsmen love easy-to-repair brands where they have to tinker less.
Well, any machine should cope with its task, but marriage (lottery) is found in everyone.
And I also noticed that about 5 years ago they wrote that the new cars are not what the old ones. 5 years have passed, but the song is the same.That is, it gets worse and worse?



vatruska, Svetlana, I don't like vertical