Marpl
Olya, I don't agree that the short program is self-indulgence. To freshen up clothes, this program is exactly what the doctor ordered.
Ketsal
MarplI don’t know, I wash my rags on it. I have a mania, I periodically soak everything white in bleach, socks in bleach, and instead of conditioner I can pour blue. And I can wash a short one if summer linen has been in the closet all winter long, and I can refresh it before summer. And so her. My husband, in the heat, changes his T-shirts 2 times a day, he sweats and a quick wash does not wash ... they smell to me of sweat and powder after this wash. I remembered about, head. Bosch praised the department, and another colleague threw out Bosch - I didn't like how he erases, now he uses Samsung and is happy
Marpl
Everyone chooses a machine according to their requirements. I was primarily interested in the size, so as not to disassemble the jambs in the bathroom and then the functionality. This machine also has a large hole for storing things. It is very convenient for me to wash large things - blankets, jackets.
Tanya-Fanya
Quote: kartinka
that now of the new programs, as it were, a necessity

Drying! Ideally, a pyramid: a washing machine, and a dryer is installed on it.
I can't do that, so I bought two in one - washing with a drying mode. Ugh, ugh, ugh, I'm not happy.
kartinka
As for a short wash, I need it, because we change T-shirts sooo often - and even if it's hot - we can take a shower and go to the shower more than once during the day and then only put on clean clothes, the rags seem to be not dirty - but they are not clean anymore, and I I do not understand the regimes - hygiene, sports - this is of no use to me. I still have old-fashioned notions - what to wash at what rate and how much, and waiting for cotton for 3.5 hours, like a friend's - tin. The required mode is half the load, if the laundry is not enough, and throwing in the second sock, so I figure them out before washing, and if it happened - this is not always the case - I also don't need this window. I'll go see this exiled khanza - a large window - yes, it's convenient if sometimes for bedspreads - blankets




kartinka, for work I needed a stationary steamer - what about refreshing, that's the thing
night_furia
Quote: Marpl
Olya, I don't agree that the short program is self-indulgence.
I completely agree. I have a short program of 15 minutes on my Samsung, I set it to 23, as I set the temperature to 20 degrees and 4 rinses. The first time I threw my husband's shorts there with my almost clean things (and this is something). I thought I couldn’t cope and still grunted my things. I washed it. I was shocked. I dared to smell it - they smelled of fresh meadows The main thing is not to overload the program. In my short program machine, this is 2 kg of laundry.
Ketsal
I agree about the big hatch
OlgaGera
and I really like the short wash program. 40 and washes for 30 minutes.
I came, took it off, threw it into the car, hung it on a hanger and you can go in the morning.
Yes, I'm a raccoon. I do not store things that I put on myself for at least a couple of hours. A convenient program for me.
And synthetics. I often use
Tancha
I also really like the short program. All blouses and t-shirts are only on her.
Chamomile
And I love the short one, but now I have a budget atlant, he squeezes the short one not very delicately. And everything in summer is thin, so I often use hand wash. This is a great program. And it washes very delicately, even compression things in a bag and I wash it on it, and it pours a lot of water, rinsing well. I also really like the "lock" program, bed linen, heavily soiled, towels, everything is "lock", and an additional rinse at the end is mandatory. I like the result after. I also like the program sports shoes: sneakers, slippers, bathroom rugs, everything on it.
OlgaGera
Quote: Chamomile
even compression things in a bag and wash on it
: friends: I'm on synthetics. There is a lot in my water on this program. I turn off the spin.
But on manual, there is not enough water. I finally have it economical at the expense of water ..
Chamomile
Sometimes I wash my homemade short wash, and sometimes I want to wash it better, especially since everything that is homemade is cotton. And I put on cotton with a clasp, add. Rinse, only the temperature is lower so that it does not shed much. Things creak after. Old Ardo lived with me for a long time, one of the first, the same age as her son. Everything about it was good, but there were no short programs. I remember that I washed my summer little things with my hands. Now - no way! Everything is in the typewriter, and delicate linen too The main thing is to choose the right program.
Olga VB
Quote: Ketsal
OLD CARS ARE BETTER THAN NEW DOES.
+1
All the masters unanimously told me that it is better to repair the old woman as much as possible until it collapses completely than modern ones to buy: solid plastic, forced programs, barely even withstand the warranty periods, etc.
But I bought a new one. And I regretted it.
Mandraik Ludmila
Yes, I have a Spanish Bosch in my city, for more than 20 years, I "pray" for him, they gave me a phone number and an address where you can find spare parts for such antiquity, but for now it works, although after the first 3 programs it does not press, but I then switch to forced spin and everything is fine. With horror I think that I will have to buy a new one, I will take it with drying, but this is generally a dark forest for me, so let my Boshik live a long time and we will be happy with him
OlgaGera
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
I'll take it with drying
Why don't you consider two cars separately. Are placed in a column. Much more convenient, as for me
Mandraik Ludmila
OlgaGera, I have a lot of different things on my typewriter, it's worth it, it will climb 2 high
OlgaGera
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
I have a lot of different things on my typewriter
reconsider location)))
Mandraik Ludmila
OlgaGera, son lives in the city, all the same there will be a mess from above, but I don't want to climb high to clean up, I don't want to. And in order to shift, you need to hang new lockers, and here the top drying will stand. And on the other wall the gas pipe goes and you can't hang anything there, in general, the 2nd cars are not my option, I already thought and does not add up in my head, in any way Let Boshik live longer
kartinka
Just about shoes - I have in my still Italian old woman Ardo, as I wrote only 3 programs - so I wash my husband's sneakers on a delicate one - there was a wild scandal a long time ago - what was it! leather! shoes are not washed by hand! I made conclusions - either he washes himself or I, only in his guaranteed absence, we only have white sneakers, I wash them .... much cleaner




I looked at the picture and the description of the hanzu, which was advised, it seemed like nothing like this machine, called my girlfriend - she’s only for Bosch .... I’ll go to her and look with passion how she washes at least .. my friend bought 3 months ago
Mandraik Ludmila
Marina, I have Hansa, 45cm, lives with us in the village, she is already five years old, definitely not less, and maybe a little more. So far, there are no complaints, a decent machine, moreover, the price was very budget
kartinka
Mandraik Ludmila, and whose assembly?




I had a stove, the upper part was a hanza and an extractor hood, now they took a new top - the stove is like a stove, a stainless steel just - I was already tortured to wipe it off ... it would be better if I took the white one as I wanted ... about the washers while I think there is a little time me-need to be determined




If you decide on a hanza, can you get to Poland, where is it all cheaper and can be of better quality?
sazalexter
Quote: Olga VB
forced programs
Everything is different with the new Electrolux, there is a Time Manager function that allows you to change the washing time on most programs in a fairly wide range, at least from 30 minutes
Twig
Hansu is very persuaded to buy in some shops. Apparently, they get a good percentage of the sale.
Electrolux with drying is produced in Italy, conventional ones - in Ukraine. From them consultants dissuade.
And here is this post
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

Yes, I have a Spanish Bosch in my city, more than 20 years, I "pray" for him, .....although after the first 3 programs it does not spin, but then I switch to forced spin and everything is fine. I think with horror that I will have to buy a new one, I will take it with drying, but this is generally a dark forest for me, so let my Boshik live a long time and we will be happy with him
Deeply sunk into the soul. Let the new machine not work for 20 years, but damn it, you don't have to monitor every wash in order to force something to be turned on there.
Buy and be happy with new things!
Marpl
I also worked in Italian for more than 20 years, but then it became buggy (it could get stuck in the water filling mode), and I chose Hansa instead, it has been working for more than 2 years, while everything suits me.
Twig
I read about Hansa reviews, very contradictory. I chose a washing machine for my son's apartment. Someone is very happy, and someone wrote that it was noisy like an airplane. By the way, I can now hear how the neighbors' washing machine works. My Lyuska is quiet :)
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: kartinka
and whose assembly?
I have Polish Hansa. In terms of noise, I will say this - not quiet, but I have it in a wooden blast house on wooden floors (floors on logs, the same wooden), and when it squeezes out, the house vibrates, but in our situation it will be so with any washing machine. Washers are good only on concrete floors
Marpl
Spinning at 1200 rpm will certainly be heard. The old spin was 600, it was quieter. Here, everyone chooses according to their requirements, and the spinning process takes only a few minutes, and not the entire wash, so such noise is not critical. The washing machine must initially be installed evenly, then there will be less noise. My car is also Polish assembly.
OlgaGera
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila
and when it squeezes out - the house vibrates
there is no buzz for the house. Place a stand under the machine from the floor. Will be better. Or fold the podium from the bottom
kartinka
I need a car in the bath - there is a tile and a niche for it, and probably the floors for it are even, in any case, the ardo did not move
Mandraik Ludmila
Lelka,

not everything is so simple, there are many props you need to put, 6m long logs are a big "deflection", in the middle of the house there is a "detinets" under the stove, each log must be supported at least in 2 points, only I have one husband and he does not trust anyone but himself, he does not break

OlgaGera
Buttercup,

yes, everything is clear. But this is how the house is killed, and it's scary to talk about the stove. She doesn't like vibration. But under the typewriter it is necessary, otherwise the oven will collapse.

ANGELINA BLACKmore
Although I’m not a foreigner, but the old-time Vyatka machine gun)), she is already 25 years old and everything is in order. True, I bought myself an LG, but this one plows too.
Mandraik Ludmila
Lyolya,

a brick stove stands on its pile foundation with a concrete slab, it is not connected to the floor, and the second one, standing on the detinets, is cast-iron, will not fall apart

OlgaGera
Quote: Mandraik Lyudmila

Lyolya,

a brick stove stands on its pile foundation with a concrete slab, it is not connected to the floor, and the second one, standing on the detinets, is cast-iron, will not fall apart

Correct oven))))

an_domini
Quote: ANGELINA BLACKmore

Although I’m not a foreigner, but the old-time Vyatka machine gun)), she is already 25 years old and everything is in order. True, I bought myself an LG, but this one plows too.

And I have Eureka 1975
At one time I exchanged Siberia for it. Works.
Who's older?
ANGELINA BLACKmore
Quote: an_domini
And I have Eureka 1975
At one time I exchanged Siberia for it. Works.
This once again confirms that the equipment produced THEN is very different in quality from the one that is assembled NOW. The only thing left to do is to regret that time, looking at the junk (with a few exceptions), which the shops are littered with.
Irgata
The third day I rejoice at my new assistant - LG F 10 B 8 QD - 7 kg, almost 25,000 r, the drum after 5 kg of Ardo and Ariston is bigger, bigger.
Again, quiet after them, woooooooooooooooooooooooooo sets, not on all programs, and sets such a long time But then not 80 * max, but 95 * - come in handy.
Ljisha takes very good care of herself, just a little - she starts swinging the laundry, straightens it, and in general spins the drum very tricky, the algorithm is not the same type, after a-two, at-two with Ardo and Ariston, this madama turns booty and so and so.
Does not wrap things up in lumps or bundles, even large and heavy ones.
Sings a song of victory.

I'm happy, let my girlie work, mmm.
night_furia
Irina, congratulations on your purchase, let the new assistant continue to please! Modern cars are really very smart, you especially feel this when you switch to them immediately from some antiquity. I myself have been using Samsung for 3 weeks and after Ariston's Hotpoint, bought in 2007, of course, I am delighted with all these current intricacies.
Irgata
Margot, Yes, that is right.
I also like the fact that at the end of the program it turns off for good, no standby modes.
night_furia
Irina, yes, I also appreciated the auto power off in my new typewriter, if the old one washed the clothes, it remained on until you press the button, but it was not always possible to press the button right away, and in general unnecessary gestures))) By the way, how is the quality of washing with LJ? Does it clean any stains, wear and tear well?
Irgata
Quote: night_furia
washing quality at LJ
I wash with an inexpensive powder so far, without bleaches, mainly from 95 * or to "intensive" to 60 * by default - completely clean, easy at the exit, spin, remembering the recommendations of the master on washing machines, I set 800 revolutions, and there is still a margin by 1000 rpm. As we recently discussed, it is good that there is a reserve of spinning power, the machine is taken care of.
Quote: night_furia
stains, worn, trampled
nuuu ... if they are old, they do not go anywhere, but the general appearance of the washed one is clean and fresh, straightened out.
By the way, it straightens for a long time, as much as 10 minutes, or even longer, it also corrects itself. Ariston twisted to and fro 4 times while shaking, but he also spread it well.
Tanya-Fanya
Irsha, night_furia, I sincerely congratulate you on your new assistants! May they serve faithfully for long summers!

Irsha, I also have LG F1496 settled in July ... the maximum load is 8 kg, so now I had to buy a small tank for dirty linen, because there is no need to save up and divide the linen into several washings. Very roomy - :)
And she has such a wonderful feature ... it's drying! My daughter convinced me that I would be happy with drying - :) now I load bedding and towels for a full cycle from washing to drying. This takes about 5 hours. I started the timer at night and in the morning I take out a dry, warm one. She immediately folded it and straightened it, immediately took it to the closet. No ironing, and the towels are soft fluffy.
Ugh, ugh, ugh, let our machines work for a long time!
night_furia
Tanya-FanyaThank you very much for your kind words. I also have a tumble dryer. I am very pleased with this program and also that there is a delicate drying program for heat-sensitive clothes.
By the way, thank you very much to the girls who spoke in such detail, beautifully and deliciously in the topic about drying machines. If not for these stories, I would never have been happy in my life, because I would not have bought such a car))) Sincerely, like many, I thought that after drying the laundry would look like it came from one place, but it would feel like from the desert, how wrong I was. Now I can't stop hugging with towels after drying, and I no longer add any fabric softener to them in the wash. And it was precisely because of the drying that I wanted a new machine instead of the old one, which for all the years had never bothered me with anything, it worked like a clock, buzzed like an airplane on takeoff, but in terms of washing (as it turned out after buying a new assistant ) philonila.
bnb
night_furia, and what kind of machine do you have?
night_furia
bnb, Natasha, I have a Samsung WD70J5410AW
mowgli
I have LG for 6 years. I will not buy any more. I will only take Bosch. Or Ariston or Samsung. But inclined to God. Moreover, the dishwasher and the refrigerator are also from this company. let fewer programs. But there will be no surprises in use
Tanya-Fanya
mowgliUnfortunately, people also complain about Bosch. You can't guess how lucky you are with the purchase.

Oh, may we all be lucky with our assistant gadgets!
night_furia
Quote: Tanya-Fanya
Mowgli, unfortunately, and people complain about Bosch. You can't guess how lucky you are with the purchase.
I have a Bosch dishwasher, not the cheapest one, and judging by the markings on the door, even a German assembly, but this did not prevent her from leaving for service after 1.5 weeks of use, they repaired them under warranty, but I did not want to take them anymore ... buying equipment is still that lottery.
mowgli
I did not break, but the impression is not very good
A citizen
Quote: mowgli
I will only take Bosch
Are you hoping that the Polish-built Bosch will add to the experience?
Add, that's for sure ...

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