Tancha
Quote: OlgaGera
Now chemistry rules. Any stains can be removed in a wash cycle with the correct powder. And why soak? for 3-6 hours.
Lyol, everything is correct. I need a lock in specific cases. Well, for example, I took off the night curtains. I wash it once a year. Ground floor, windows wide open from April to October (depending on the weather). Eternally sweeping windshield wipers, cars, now pollen, now earrings from birches. A week ago, I soaked it in the bathroom, my dear mother, I have no dirt drain from the floor cloth. And that they will be in dirty jelly for 40 minutes or more? Agree, dubious wash. I also have no dirt with my overalls, but dusty ....: girl-yes: So sometimes I personally really need soaking for half an hour or an hour, I don't see the point in more time. Well, if only soaked and you need to go somewhere.
Anchic
Quote: Tancha
So, sometimes I personally really need soaking for half an hour or an hour

It seems to me that almost all machines have a prewash mode. That's right, that for a little while - wash off the first main dirt and then wash it for a little longer.
Tancha
No, Anh does not suit me. She doesn't drain my water afterwards and doesn't even squeeze out. Stupidly adds water and begins to wash.
Anchic
Tatyana, Yes?! I don't use this mode. It will be necessary to look at her, how she does it.
Bijou
Quote: Tancha
She doesn't drain my water afterwards and doesn't even squeeze out. Stupidly adds water and begins to wash.
Hmm .. It's u Aristona such a jamb ???

Really obscure logic. When they want the first dirt to be washed off, they put the Preliminary one and it gets rid of the first byaki with its portion of powder, then the water is drained, the laundry is wrung out, together with the new water, the second portion of the powder is taken from the second compartment and the laundry is reached in a cleaner form.

When they want the laundry not to fray once more, but simply turn sour in the same detergent solution, then they put Soak, and then washing takes place in the same water and with the same powder.

But for Ariston to depict such a mutant program? .. And what is the point in it? To wash longer, you can either choose a longer program, or add the degree of dirt, and then the machine will wash for a long time without any "pre". The point is to produce entities?
Midnight lady
In my Ariston, after a pre-wash, the water is drained.


$ vetLana
, and how many degrees is the temperature on your Soak program?
$ vetLana
Quote: Midnight lady
$ vetLana, how many degrees is the temperature in your Soak program?
Midnight lady, 30 gr.
vatruska
In my car, the soak mode is recommended to be carried out as follows: 15 minutes on the cotton program at 30 degrees, then a pause and further - at your discretion. But unfortunately there is water saving and instead of soaking, you get laundry in a puddle of solution.
Tancha
Quote: Midnight lady
In my Ariston, after a pre-wash, the water is drained.
Maybe I missed this moment? I tried it once, and for a very long time for me. Faster as I wrote. (y) I generally twist it as I want, I combine all programs. Every time I ask her for a mockery.
Midnight lady
Tancha, oh, so did you change the brushes recently? We also changed this year, just on March 8th. And also my assistant is 13 years old. And I play with programs, but I'm not sorry, but I say thank you. "You've done a great job, thanks."
Tancha
No, I haven't changed anything, it's not me. She's still a young girl!
Olga VB
Girls, by the way, about the repair.
When I bought a new byaka, I didn't throw my beloved old woman away, just in case.
So maybe someone has an intelligent master (in Moscow) to revive my treasure?
Midnight lady
Tancha, mixed up
Bijou
Olga VB, so you finally bought Beko, or what? With drying?
And the "beloved old woman" is the hated Ski ?? Or am I already asleep?
Olga VB
Split!
My ski is still not in favor, and the old woman is a zerowatt
And I haven’t bought a new one yet, because the repair is delaying: the carpenters "threw me" for the second time!
Now I don't know where to look for normal masters. So again, the purchase of a new SM is postponed. However, like other equipment
Bijou
Ahh .. Byaka is a Ski! * guessed permeates sleepy Bijou * And not Beko at all .. How could you not understand?

But why are you so bad with this repair ...
Olga VB
Quote: Bijou
But why are you so bad with this repair ...
God forbid!
Arlei
Svetlana, jelen, Thank you! I'll tell my husband, maybe we need to change this too! That would be saving for the budget. And I did not use soaking. Everything is in a basin, tomorrow I will test it !!!
$ vetLana
Quote: Arlei
Svetlana, jelen, thank you! I'll tell my husband, maybe we need to change this too! If only there were savings for the budget
Arlei, the repair cost us 5500.
Anastasiay
Does anyone know firms that only produce washing machines?
vatruska
Anastasiay, I'm afraid to lie - but it seems like Asko, a Swedish company ... according to rumors, washing machines are indestructible, they are put in prof. laundries, but minus:
- no narrow (such a company policy is insufficient reliability in their opinion)
- high price
- a small list of operating modes.
Bijou
And one more minus - now they are called Gorene.))
Tanyusha
I threw out the Gorenie machine after 1 year of work.
Bijou
Why?? No, well, they are not without flaws - I've already read a lot.)) But for just a year - it's too much.
OlgaGera
Quote: Anastasiay
which only washing machines produce?
Quote: vatruska
but it seems asko
I have Asko tumble dryer and dishwasher. Asko sold the washing machine. It didn’t satisfy my requests. White laundry has turned gray because the door seal is made of black rubber and is in contact with water. And so quiet, roomy. After pre-washing and soaking, the water is drained, but not squeezed
On the program, WOOL successfully put things on me. Apparently I still heated the water, although I did not ask.
I said goodbye to her without regrets. I honestly told everything.
Tanyusha
Bijou, there the electronics flew and the cost of repairs did not suit me at all. And then I fell for Siemens.
LiudmiLka
At my neighbor's gas stove Gorenie could be thrown out immediately after purchase. Apparently, their entire technique is useless.
$ vetLana
Quote: LiudmiLka
At my neighbor's gas stove Gorenie could be thrown out immediately after purchase. Apparently, their entire technique is useless.
I have had a Gorene gas stove for many years. Very good. So it is not necessary to judge all equipment at once by one (possibly cheap) gas. stove.
Crochet
Quote: LiudmiLka
Apparently, their entire technique is useless.

I protest !!!

I can't get enough of my Gorene combined stove for 4 years !!!
Joy
Quote: Krosh
I protest !!!

And I protest
With the light feed of one beautiful fairy, I have a combined burner stove, I love it with tender love
Tanyusha
All technique is a lottery as it hits.
Olga VB
Girls, there is the Burning technique and there is Burning +
According to some experts in Odessa, these are 2 big differences. That is, equipment of different levels of ergonomics and reliability.
Shl. If what, I have neither the one nor the other, I just too toil with the choice of different techniques.
detdok
Good afternoon everyone! Girls (and boys), and no one used the washer Burning with a water tank? It seemed to me convenient for my conditions in the country. But after reading that many are not satisfied with the technique of this company, she doubted. Maybe someone (many, many) is delighted?
tat-63
Marina I have such a car. I do not like.


Added Wednesday 19 Oct 2016 5:04 PM

Washes twice as long as usual, pours little water. It really pisses me off. I bought my father-in-law in a private house. It takes up a lot of space.
detdok
Tanya, in the sense of water does not use much and does not rinse out the powder, or is there not enough water in this bucket and you have to add it along the way? I dreamed that she would stand in my bathhouse and wash at a cheap rate at night, and with this bucket she would not jump anywhere
tat-63
there is no need to add anything, once the water is poured and that's it. It saves water. A full tank is enough for the entire cycle. I even have a little water left in the tank
detdok
Thank you very much! I'll think
Bijou
Quote: tat-63
A full tank is enough for the entire cycle. I even have a little water left in the tank
And how much is poured there? That is, if you want a normal rinse, then you need to put in quite a bit of linen, right?
Although, in principle, this is true for all machines, but they are not limited in water, like this one.
detdok
In the description of the washing machine, a tank is 100 liters, and a water consumption of 54 liters per wash cycle. This is a good indicator for 6-7 kg of laundry.
tat-63
The tanks are different. depends on the model. We have a small one, I think 50-60 liters. Located at the back. There are models where the tank on the side is larger in volume
Bijou
Oh, well, 50-55 liters per wash is not the worst result. Washing and three rinses of 13 liters each ... A full drum, of course, you can't wash, but in general not 40 liters.))
Anastasiay
Quote: OlgaGera
the sealing ring on the door is made of black rubber and is in contact with water

This is a surprise .. A special machine for black clothes ...


Added Saturday 22 Oct 2016 08:39 PM

Quote: Tanyusha

All technique is a lottery as it hits.

That's for sure. One kettle worked for us for 5 years, we bought the same one after it, but he didn't even live a month


Added Saturday 22 Oct 2016 08:43 PM

Quote: detdok
nobody used the washer Combustion with a water tank?

Forgive me my incompetence) And what is a "water tank"? Do I understand correctly that this is for houses where there is no running water?
detdok
Yes, these are washing machines for those cases when there is no water supply, that is, there is sufficient pressure in the system. They have a pump that pumps water from a container attached to the back or side. And you can pour water into the container even with a bucket. Take up a lot of space.
Svetlana777
Quote: vatruska
I'm afraid to lie - but it seems like Asko, a Swedish company ... the washers are rumored to be indestructible,
Asko ??? I beg you, Girls, I will honestly say, maybe Asko (Sweden - made with a "mind") ... used to be unkillable. - now the market should move Maybe I'm so lucky (1 mine was Vyatka, the first model was sooooo long, then I wanted a new one, just like that, but in vain. Kaiser with top loading - so that a small child does not climb - I decided. 7 years old and the motor ( probably) covered, why probably - the master took it and disappeared ... and again the forced puzzle searched for a long time - chose Miles or Asko - "I want a good one !!!" - the goal of my choice (the store said that only Miles were returned). Yes, and something hit me so that the drum was just metal (I regretted it 1000 times, it was very noisy) Although my husband was against it, for such a price you can take 3 cars "... my answer then was" you don't want to drive a car ", But already when buying, I chose from 3 Asko the one that is more expensive (I would have saved it better). Result: I worked 1 g, - started to leak, (warranty 1 g, 2 this is not for individuals - I was told ..) .. another 1g and the electronics were covered, just a program failure - it was not possible to reprogram, replacement by order through Moscow at 3 months .... kapets. (also at a price equal to half the cost of the end unit itself) "here's a Mercedes instead of a Zaporozhets!" .... in general, I did not choose anymore, now I have Skis (LG), though with a steam washing function (I don’t know, my husband took it, I tried it once, it was just at the price of norms) Washes no worse than Asko, it works much quieter, the truth squeaks when it washes and when choosing programs, but I'm used to it and I love it. But I really hate Asko, huge, noisy and of all the fastest breaking ... (standing on the balcony, it's a pity to throw it out to my husband .. like you need to order a fee. Now you can find out from a normal master (which ones are cheaper to repair, fie-fie ..) and which ones are repaired less often .. My husband stopped sawing when he dragged the TV to repair and saw a huge: about the number of washers there But in general, since then, somehow I have been very wary of expensive equipment.
Exocat
Svetlana777, and what kind of LG you have. And what time is it. I was also interested in them last year, but it's dumb to take without someone's opinion based on my own experience.
louisa
Ludmila, I also have LG for three years already, it suits everyone, I also bought my daughter LG, the model is more budgetary, it washes just as well
Sonya sadova
I have Lyzhik for four years, during this time he worked for eight (village, agricultural work, farmers, six dogs in the house), no complaints. Yes, he sings when the cycle is over and begs for choosing a regime, but this is really such a trifle.

Washes everything (6 kg load): European-sized blankets, blankets, down pillows right in the pillowcase, winter outfits. Will die, I will also buy LG.
Natalisha
Quote: Sonya Sadova
Yes, he sings when the cycle is over and begs for choosing a regime, but this is really such a trifle.
Isn't the music turning off?
Svetlana777
Quote: Exocat
and what kind of LG you have.
I'm sorry, just saw the question .. hung on, infection, soy cows
I ran to look at my Lyzhenka, she was already 8kg, this one hapanula and looks smaller than the ill-fated Asko, Model F14A8TDS5 (grayish, beautiful, (I needed this color), there are also white ones, although there are already newer models, but I I LOVE my (I looked at them on the way on sale not ... But I can say about mine - the function of a couple of nafig is not needed (well, at least I did not adapt to it. I will remove a couple of spots I will experiment, I would not ask, and I myself was in the dark, but I will study my miracle
Helena
Ladies, advise a standard washing machine! Which one to choose? My Hansa broke down after 13 years.

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