Washing machine: which one to buy

we also changed the washing machine to a vertical one from Electrolux. A similar unit works for Alexander from our forum from 2015
In eldorado, they gave a discount of 5 tons and they still have to return about 2500 if there is no return in 14 days
generally test

but Siemens are reliable ... It's a pity that they merged with the Bosch.

Yes, very sorry!
In the same year, when such a merger took place, a five-day working week with two days off was introduced by a decree of the CPSU Central Committee of the USSR Council of Ministers and the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions. And all this together happened quite recently - in 1967, when we still did not smell of automatic washing machines ...

BSH Bosch und Siemens Hausgeräte GmbH was founded in 1967 by the merger of the household appliances and television equipment divisions of two German companies - Siemens AG and Robert Bosch GmbH, founded in 1966.
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSH_Hausger%C3%A4te

Acquaintance of our compatriots with an automatic washing machine took place towards the end of the 70s of the last century. Then at the enterprise in Kirov under the license of the Italian company "Merloni Eletrodomestichi" a plant was built, which started production of "Vyatok-automat" - twin sisters of "Ariston" cars, on February 23, 1981 the first batch - 100 cars was produced.
visualhistory.livejourna l.com/227688.html

Sorry for offtopic, and a short excursion into history ...

[Kapet]

Kapet, Constantin, not as a dispute ... When I bought my car, it was 12-13 years ago, Boshiks were sold purely as Boshiks and Siemens separately. Servicemen also sharply divided these brands, that is, Siemens at work is like this, but Boshiks need to look at the assembly and type of machine (well, full-size, narrow, etc.). And then, 3-4 years later, a message appeared that now there is a common Bosch Siemens concern. And what happened there and how - I don't know ... maybe they were fooling the consumers like that, and now they decided that that's enough ...

[Exocat]

Exocat, I was talking about an ordinary washing machine. Drying has its own rules, I agree. And I read about wool in the instructions, when I was choosing, there are high turns on programs for wool, I don't remember the names of brands, but I remember how I was indignant then.

[Alex100]

Alex100Congratulations on your great purchase!

[Alexander]

Alexander, Thank you)

I came across an interesting post about washers.

All good!
As I said earlier, I am engaged in the repair of refrigerators, but in addition to this we also make other household appliances. Most orders / requests for washing machines. The problems are very different. Manufacturers reduce the efficiency of equipment as much as possible, but, apparently, this is not enough. After the crisis, corporations decided to remove or minimize the ability to repair the device. If you can change the heating element, pump, racks in the garage or even at home, having little ability and some tools, then everything is sad with bearings.
Tanks have always been collapsible and made either of plastic or stainless steel. Now it is usually glass fiber.
A collapsible tank looks like this


And now an example of a non-collapsible tank

Not a single bolt along the joint. If your bearings have died, that is, do not turn the drum with your hand or during the spin cycle your machine sounds like an airplane taking off, then it's time for you to "repair". I write in quotes, because repairs usually mean replacing your tank with another. The tanks are different, the cost is different.
We repair such tanks. However, this can be repaired a couple of times.

The muzzle of the tank is cut out, the bearing is changed and everything is soldered back. If we learn to strengthen after the 2nd repair, then it will be possible to constantly repair.
You probably want to know how often bearings fly now? Often. More often than before.After a guarantee after a month, after 3 months. Why? There are two reasons. The first reason is that the owner overloads the machine. 5kg of laundry is the weight of wet laundry. An overloaded spinning machine will not run far, but it will load the bearings. The second reason is a marketing ploy. Example Ariston Hotpoint. Width is about 40-42 cm. The declared load weight is 7kg. Racks are the same as for 5kg, the same with bearings. The result is a client's appeal in 1.5-3 years.
Bearings were not the last reason for customers to buy instead of being repaired. One of the latest innovations is a new way of fixing the balancing stone.

You will get tired, bend, but do not remove without a special tool. Here is such


The price of a new tank, on average, is from 8 thousand.
I can’t imagine what they will come up with with a pump and heating element. The boards no longer hang protective films or beads from water ingress. By the way, this is a separate topic.

P.S. How to save equipment? everything is simple. Do not overload, otherwise bearings and struts will fly. Check pockets before washing so that the pump does not die from the fact that coins, screws, hairpins get in. Remove underwire from bras before washing. Once a month include washing with citric acid, 2-4 sachets, at a temperature of 60 degrees. It is better and 400 times cheaper than KALgon. Unplug from wall outlet if not washing. And, in order to fully protect the device, in particular the module, supply a voltage regulator.
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If there are Candy owners, please share your experience of using / maintenance / repair

Tanya, I have a "sister" Candy - Zerovatt.
But she is many years old. Previously, the technique was normal, as now - I don't know. But there should be no problems with spare parts, since it has been on the Russian market for a very long time.
But you'd better take a walk on the trunk, look there.
Good luck!

[eye]

eye, at work, our Kandy with drying broke down - does not dry, but washes. Worked for less than a year, used irregularly

Discussion made in Optimum spin speed in the washing machine.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olga, Ketsal, Olga, thanks for your attention to the question, it seemed to me that the company was popular ...

[eye]

eye, but not at all. If you're interested, I've been on the move for the last 10 years. So lg 2000g for 3.5 kg survived the Tver hostel, the medical institute, dressing gowns, moving to Kaluga and still moving to her brother with her daughter-in-law is still plowing, little girl. LG for 6 kg the parents of 2003 changed the pump, the shock absorbers, the bearing - works. LG's mother-in-law at 7 kg is 4 years old - no complaints, LG at the dacha at 7 kg - 1.5 g is not bad, but very tricky programs - that is, synthetics for 60 and do not wash quickly, there are many very long programs, but there is a function such as half load ... In the first rented apartment of Indesit 2015 for 4 kg - a rare muck - linen is always under-served, programs are inconvenient. On new linen, the old Indesit for 3 kg is buggy and I don't like it. In previous work, Samsung with a bubble drum is usually without enthusiasm. Conclusion old skis like more new ones - easier settings and you can outsmart programs. From modern I think again a lie. I would have taken Kandy with drying, but the broken drying discouraged

I have a long-liver of good European quality for reasonable money)

In modern skiing, there are a lot of different programs, you can choose for every taste, there are also super-short ones, any temperature and spin, extra. rinse and super-rinse (heated water up to 40 degrees) for health. Here (in Moldova) now masters, except for skis and samsungs, do not recommend buying anything. All Boshi-Zanussi, etc. are not of European quality. Kandy doesn't seem to be at all.

[LiudmiLka]

I have a Bosch wll20166oe, if anyone is interested, I can tell you all the pros and cons



LiudmiLka, LG and Samsung, as well as Bosch and Siemens do in Russia.

[raulito7]

raulito7, not all models. In stores, you can still find full-size washing machines of the Spanish and German assembly.

[Belka13]

Belka13, I agree, I saw a German-made Bosch, but the price tag there is huge, and I bought mine for 27,000 rubles, which I think is expensive ...

Friends, we need your advice, and urgently).This morning I ordered an Electrolux EWW 51685 SWD washing machine and dryer for 62 thousand rubles, the manager phoned, confirmed the order, agreed on the delivery, and after about 3 hours it turns out that this model is not in stock and I am offered a more expensive model, but at a price previously ordered, like, we do not want to lose a client. They offer Electrolux EWW 51696 SWD (price in the store 72 thousand), a carbonrane tank. I am in confusion, I do not know whether to agree to this model or not? Here, the dimensions of the machine are also fundamental, the last one is 60x60 cm, but until the door to the bathroom has been installed, it will pass. And if the renovation .... And, in general, is such a gift embarrassing, just a session of unprecedented generosity, or do they want to foist an unsold model?

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, I always have this in Vasco. confirm, and then ... sorry ... but here's a gift for you. Why?
I don't buy from them anymore. ..
I bought a dryer somehow ... but after the repair it turned out to be ... on my black list

[Lelka]

Lelka, thanks for your feedback. I did not order anything in this store, so I was surprised at such generosity

2 years ago, I was also looking for a washing machine to replace the Italian Sanjorgia that had worked for 20 years. But I already had a repair and did not want to remove the jambs at the doors, so I was looking for 60x50cm. I bought Hansa WHS 1250 and went through the doorway indiscriminately. Washes up to 7 kg of laundry, energy consumption A +++, max speed 1200, but you can set whatever you want. In addition to the main programs, there are special programs - antiallergic program, daily 60, Mix program, Shirts program, Express 12 and Eco 20. The price was around 25t. R. with delivery to Moscow of their SP. Here is its appearance, the glass is dark, you can put the car in the kitchen and you will not see what is being erased there

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Now they are 17800 -

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P.S / I also applied to Vasco, but this is a complete scam, the necessary product is never available.

[Marina]

Marina, thank you very much for the very useful info. I choose a machine with a dryer and, probably, I will focus on the Electrolux EWW51676SWD from Mvideo, its dimensions suit me 60x52.2

An acquaintance of mine bought a car with a dryer (she lives in the center and there is no place for drying clothes), but it seems like AEG, so she doesn't get out of repairs, something constantly breaks. Well, maybe she is "lucky".

and so she doesn't get out of repairs, something constantly breaks. Well, maybe she is "lucky".

Maybe she overstrains the machine?

[Cvetaal]

All TRICKS !!!
Cvetaal, Svetlana, do not waste your precious time on this store. If you don’t believe, ask Timkina how this IM “bred” her. The topic of choosing a hood was our conversation six months ago

https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=30933.200
from this place read / charge Timkin positive. "Reply # 219 February 19, 2018, 23:51" It all ended, as I predicted / described to her

I bought Hansa WHS 1250 and went through the doorway indiscriminately. Washes up to 7 kg of laundry, energy consumption A +++, max speed 1200, but you can set whatever you want. In addition to the main programs, there are special programs

Marina, how is she at work? Does it make a lot of noise?
Does the laundry wash well? How does it rinse? The main thing for me is that the laundry does not smell like powder.

washer-dryer Electrolux EWW 51685 SWD

Wow .. 5.5 kWh for a complete cycle with drying. No, I can't afford this for sure. (((

Alla, she washes and rinses well. Spinning at 1200 rpm cannot be noiseless, I wash mostly at night, so when the bathroom door is closed, you cannot hear in the room. There is a separate function for rinsing, spinning, sports, mix, cotton (90 degrees), prewash and much more. It's like in MB, there is a programmer - you can select a washing program, change the temperature, spin speed, there is a delayed start, a quick mode and a child lock. She suits me completely.

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, Svetlana, if you have not yet fully decided on the purchase, then look / read for LG F14B3PDS. Cool SM production / assembly South Korea (this particular model) !!! Look, you can still find it in Moscow.

[Marina]

Marina, my Ariston also has many programs, but very economical on water. Therefore, I manually add warm water to each cycle, there is no smell of powder. Although no allergies.
But it's time to change to a new and larger one, I have 4kg.

And in this one there is some kind of tricky program for allergy sufferers, so it heats the water itself when rinsing.

[Cvetaal]

Cvetaal, Svetlana, if you have not yet fully decided on the purchase, then look / read for LG F14B3PDS.Cool SM production / assembly South Korea (this particular model) !!! Look, you can still find it in Moscow.

Lyudmilochka, thank you)), I found it in mvideo, but I don't see anything about her dimensions

Found, but not those letters-numbers

Lyudmil, is she without drying? I need drying

85x60x46 cm

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Yes, Marin, I already saw it, thanks. But this machine is without drying ...

[Marina]

Marina, thank you very much for the very useful info. I choose a machine with a dryer and, probably, I will focus on the Electrolux EWW51676SWD from Mvideo, its dimensions suit me 60x52.2

I also wanted this model, as far as I remember, this is an old model and is only in Mvideo.
I bought it for 1400 rpm, eww514 .... just in Vasco, I don't remember the price exactly, but Mvideo is much cheaper with all coupons and cashbacks.
Soooo happy. The car was brought brand new in its original packaging, I am happy with Vaskor.
Found a check - 49650 with delivery and lifting.
I bought it in June, a couple of pages ago

I used drying a couple of times in total. Not an essential thing, but it can be very useful, it's good that it is. Washing + drying in 1 hour once just helped me out, I urgently needed a white shirt.
5.5 vkt as Bijou noted, a lot, yes. But this is a full wash and dry, rarely needed. Easy to wash and refresh this much less kilowatt.
And she also has an elastic band designed so that there is no need to wipe a puddle.

Found a drawback - very wrinkled linen after spinning. In the last machine, after spinning, the laundry simply stuck in the drum for a couple of minutes, and then it squeezed out and turned off. Found a way out - I turn on the "freshen up the ferry" program, especially when I wash a bunch of my husband's shirts. Then they are easy to iron.

[Twig]

Twig, and what is the size of your car?

Depth 52 cm, I have a problem with the doorway, this one with a dryer is the only model with this depth.
Wrongly expressed. Not a model, but a brand. Only Electrolux with dryer enters my doorway.

here I have the same story

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, well, do not suffer from searches, order from Vasco, warn that only the factory packaging is needed. If something goes wrong, you have the right to refuse. They just have a lot of models in the assortment, the model range is changing, they keep such a list on the window to lure the client. Happy shopping.
If you need to take out the old car, the movers offer to pick it up immediately.

After the purchase, Shef singled out my joyful posts into a separate topic. The thread of the conversation is lost.

Ordered and have already brought Electrolux with drying EWW51476 to

elecity for 55 thousand

Thanks everyone !!!

[How to choose a washing machine.]

How to choose a washing machine.

all in a bunch

the machine washes at home, 7 years soon, never repaired. good wash quality, not noisy

The girls had a need to figure it out and choose a washing machine. I'll start reading the thread, but I want to clarify the main points. Our washing machine is already very old, even the Italian Ardo repair was only once - my husband changed something himself and that's it.
In principle, everything was fine, although, probably, by nowadays, it is quite simple - 3 modes - cotton, delicate and wool. Manual temperature setting - min, 30-100 * step 10 *, and spinning 600-1200 rpm.
There was not enough short wash - but I could set it myself by turning the knob after the main wash for rinsing and spinning.
What I want is the same, frontal, 60x60, but maybe with a quick wash program with a temperature of 30-40 * for 15-30 minutes.
If possible, I want to interrupt the program myself and set the rinse and spin cycle.
The load can be more than 5kg, although it does not matter.
I would like that relatively reliable and at a reasonable price
Maybe now there are some programs that I don't know about, but I kind of need them?
Please wait for your advice

Marina, look at this one. I chose this for myself, completely satisfied.

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[Marpl]

Marpl, marinochka, looked, it looked like nothing, but there are no descriptions that she can and the assembly -Poland? and how long have you had it?

[Marpl]

Marpl, I see the ability to change the spin, but the temperature can be changed in the programs? And is there a program for wool? And pre-soaking?

I’ll ask in another way - the first choice was about 25 years ago, that now there is a need for new programs, but I don’t know .. I’ll go shopping only tomorrow ...

Marina, look here, you can read the instructions. There are many different programs in it and everything can be changed everywhere.

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There are also Wool, Manual, Pre-Soak, Daily, 12 minutes, Eco, Extra Rinse, Shirts, Mix, Sport, Cotton. Look in the instructions for details.

[kartinka]

kartinka, yes, nothing is needed, the short program is self-indulgence, does not stretch, for 3 years three test machines, I lie 4.the first ski in the mother-in-law, she is 3 years old, the flight is normal, the second one has a 7 kg ski in the parents in the village, I like the duvet program -I erase down jackets in it, BUT control of the sensor panel! When it rained from the humidity in the bathroom this summer, she had a glitch. I called those support, they said that this happens, that it is necessary to dry the room and remove the powder tray, turn off the machine from the network, it helped, but then it was buggy a couple of times when it was wet. Otherwise, everything is fine, skiing has a function my program - there you can make any settings. On rented housing now the old man is 3 kg indesit - a rare turd, dog drool from walking pants does not wash for 40 degrees, I hate her. On the other rented apartment zanussi for 4 kg, a little better, but also fu. At work now there is a kandy with a drying, the drying has broken down in less than a year, but it erases the norms. At another job I was Samsung, without enthusiasm, but also without negative. Speaking of small machines, my brother's ski 2000g for 3.5 kg is still plowing, but she survived several transfers and a hostel at the Medical Institute and there are no complaints about the quality of washing white coats! My mother has a 2000g ski at home for 6 kg, plows, though the pump and some bearings or oil seals were changed in it.
Conclusions: I am still the raccoon-gargle, my washing machine washes 3-4 times a day. OLD CARS ARE BETTER THAN NEW DOES. Any programs are not really needed. Well, I don't understand how the hygiene regimen differs from the baby's clothes regimen! Both there and there 60 degrees, and the additional rinse can be set manually. All these programs are marketing. I remembered: on old models of skis it was possible to put at least 90 degrees on synthetics, on new ones it was not possible: that is, I pressed synthetics and will not put them above 40 degrees, if you want to wash on 60, choose cotton and muddle linen on it for 3 hours. through my program to outsmart the machine, but I did not try. Of the new ski chips, I liked the half-load function - this is when you wash 2 t-shirts and one panties, I also like the heavily dirty laundry function, the ngo machine then mutuzit more. Friends praised the cars with the function of additional doors for a forgotten sock, but I did not use this one. In general, good luck!