Giraffe
$ vetLana, in-in ... I was looking for a year ago and bought. There is no comparison with my old one. And I also went through the options, laid it out here and consulted ... I hope that at least she will work longer. because there is nothing to choose from, and then it may go even worse ...
auntyirisha
I had a lot of cars (well, if we count together with the relatives whom I chose): the very first of the "old high-quality" used "Indesit" (there was an enameled tank, it leaked), then "Siltal" - a workhorse with mediocre washing quality, the next "Margarita from Ariston" is a good machine (with an excellent wool washing program), but hesitated to break (it was of Italian assembly, repairs were very expensive, although the masters came and said: what a good machine (probably for them, yes )), my sister had an "indesite" not bad, she worked for a long time, when she broke down, they chose a narrow, unpretentious "Bosch" (they found a German assembly) not a fountain, but it works (recently the ten flew, after our crooked masters the machine began to leak, my sister is now afraid of them call, since the first "Indesit" was finally out of order after the repair too), the mother-in-law bought some new "Ariston", but I did not like it (some buggy one), they bought her "Samsung" for another apartment. So: now I have a "Mile" with drying, but if it suddenly breaks down, I'll try to find myself the same "Samsung". For all its simplicity, it has such a flexible system of settings for washing and rinsing that it seems to me just the perfect machine! Well, I'm not alone in my opinion, when I chose, I did not find a single negative review on it.
Elena Tim
Quote: auntyirisha
I will try to find myself the same Samsung. For all its simplicity, it has such a flexible system of settings for washing and rinsing that it seems to me just the perfect machine! Well, I'm not alone in my opinion, when I chose, I did not find a single negative review on it.
Irish, what kind of model?
auntyirisha
Oh, I don't remember. Now I'll look, WF602U2BKWQ, like it. Only cost about 17,000, went up in price
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Disposable trend
Seemingly reputable companies began to sin with this, which, like us - consumers, think there can be no shoals
Well, in a trailer you can find a smaller car, but the price will start at fifty dollars.
Elena Tim
Quote: auntyirisha
WF602U2BKWQ, like it.
Thank you, Irish!
I'll go and see, sho for the beast.
auntyirisha
When I was choosing a car for myself, I looked at "Asko", but now they are very scolded. My "Mile" is very greedy for water, but it does not suit me very much when rinsing, well, and to very big disadvantages I will attribute simply disgusting washing of wool, or rather, I would say - not washing. In this Samsung, you can select up to five rinses.
Elena Tim
And I, you know, I can't understand: my old Electrolyuska (5.5 kg) had 58 liters of water per wash. Now, the new one (8 kg) has 63 liters. I don’t understand, is it because of the big drum, does it visually seem less water? And "your" six-kilogram Samsushka Duc finally has 39 liters of water per cycle. Spruce-pala, is there it at all, tunnels, no?
auntyirisha
Quote: Elena Tim
Spruce-pala, there it is generally, tunnels, no
Was, I saw myself, maybe they somehow think at a minimum (so as not to frighten off a large number of buyers))? I don’t see my water in “Mila”, even when I press “more water” (and she will tell you, not more water)
Elena Tim
Quote: auntyirisha
I don't see my water
Same stuff. I don't even know why it sticks to me so much, because the quality of washing and rinsing really suits me. I just can't understand DE MY WATER ?!
Gee My old Lyuska, like most Lyuseks of that time, had a Direct spray system, that is, direct injection. This is when the soapy solution, in addition to being dangling at the bottom of the tank, is also supplied with a powerful stream from above, and when the drum rotates, during washing, it hits exactly into the center of the pile of laundry. I’m thinking, maybe because of this it seemed to me that there was more water, because it was visible. And now this "injection" has been removed for some reason, and I see just spinning wet laundry in the tub. Enrages straight! I am crying for three liters and I want to see them!
Bijou
Girls, you are losing the main thing in reasoning - the size of the car. Do not care how many marketers have drawn a miracle kilogram on the panel. The main thing is to get a big "basin". In my big car, even when it is empty, more buckets of water are collected and at the same time it is practically invisible in the drum. I was surprised when I measured the drained and received 13 liters. It is clear that both the dirt and the powder will find where they will be placed during washing and rinsing. Therefore, there is no need to rinse behind this machine - only 1-2 additional rinses added to the cycle give an excellent result for the usual slide of clothes.

But now I have a smaller machine too. 45 (or 48 cm?) Deep. And I haven't even sniffed for a long time - I immediately start the second wash cycle without heating and without powder. And it's not a fact that the powder will leave without a trace.

By the way, in this rinse machine, the water is very clearly visible. Not to the middle of the hatch, but the laundry flops in the water. And the result is so bad.
Well, or am I so spoiled by the old car.
auntyirisha
Bijou, Lena, I can add only one rinse to mine (I have it for the classic 5.5 kg), while you need not just press a button, but wash in the "menu" - this is not convenient, despite the fact that I wash with eco-friendly powders, the rinsing quality is not for me arranges.
Giraffe
And mine obviously takes more water than stated.
Elena Tim
Quote: Bijou
By the way, in this rinse machine, the water is very clearly visible. Not to the middle of the hatch, but the laundry flops in the water. And the result is so bad.
N-dya?
Well, then I won't bother and connect two more rinses, since it's already normal.
It turns out that the quality of washing and rinsing depends not only on the amount of water, but also on the "structure" and the drum rotation algorithm.
Bijou
auntyirisha, yes, this is very different for different machines. ((For my rinses, you can assign a lot to the company to the regular ones (also through the menu), but it seems that so many of them are not needed ... Well, except for those rare cases, when one thing is washed so large that it takes up almost the entire drum, then I put them in only 6-7 pieces.

Usually, there is less laundry in the drum and there is enough water. But when I put so little laundry in a small machine that the rinsing is satisfactory, then, in fact, there is almost nothing to wash.


Added Sunday 24 Jul 2016 3:56 pm

Quote: Elena Tim
It turns out that the quality of washing and rinsing depends not only on the amount of water, but also on the "structure" and the drum rotation algorithm.
Oh yeah ... She freaked it out when she found it. In the first wash I sat down next to me, meditating on "water rush !!", and in the end I get ... foamy water. )))
kolobashka
so, so, I read you and think, can I buy an activator?
OlgaGera
Quote: auntyirisha
looked at "Asko"
right that they did not buy.
In the door there is a black inner sealing rubber. It gives off its color when washed. The laundry has turned gray. I gave it back to them at the firm. She crossed herself.
I bought Mile. Seems 3740. Complete garbage, worse than our ZVI erases. No spin after prewash and no spin after wash to rinse. I returned it.
Now I bought 6 kg on Avito Mile - the swallow erases. Happy as an elephant. The programs are perfectly tuned. Love her.
At home there is an old vertical Mile. Good too. But she's from the show. Virgo, in 30 minutes she still works wonders, although she is already ... a lot
Bijou
Quote: OlgaGera
I bought Mile. Seems 3740. Bullshit complete, worse than our ZVI erases. ... returned.
Now I bought 6 kg on Avito Mile - a swallow erases.Happy as an elephant. The programs are perfectly tuned.
Well. ((And I recently came across the assurances of one master, turned on Miles, that the programs in them are all the same.

Quote: Kolobashka
so, so, I read you and think, can I buy an activator?
Cheyta suddenly such extremes?
Olga VB
And I'm still toiling with choice
In fact, none of the modern models praises anything, all some "buts" - and this is still at best. And more often a frank "fairy"
I recently acquired a narrow LV - a rare muck! I'm even thinking of repairing my old lady Zerowatt and returning it to its place. Can someone advise a good master?

And now I also need an installation, that is, the choice is even less. Alas for me, alas!
Giraffe
I, too, with great pleasure, would have repaired my old woman Zanuska, but they said that they could not find spare parts for her.
torturesru
Quote: Olga VB
I recently acquired a narrow LV - a rare muck! I'm even thinking of repairing my old lady Zerowatt and returning it to its place. Can someone advise a good master?
Hmm, the story goes in a spiral, so soon we will return to the river (if it will be possible to approach it in connection with the land grabbing) and roll with linen, roll :)
I personally have little experience with machines, at first I was bought back in the 90s, Filko - everything would be fine, but as she was not equated, I went to the kitchen during the spinning :) They took me to the dacha, the bath is more or less normal, although and there it moves a little away from the wall. Now Brand with top loading, that's all with him, pah-pah, okay. True, after talking with friends, I am inclined to believe that if the dimensions allow, then it is better to take a full-size machine. Unfortunately, in order to acquire such a miracle, I need to redevelop the bathroom.
OlgaGera
Quote: Bijou
Well. ((And I recently came across the assurances of one master, turned on Miles, that the programs in them are all the same.
like this?
Lena, available 2 miles, third returned. True, different generations .. wash in different ways. The programs are different. Even the drum rotation algorithm is different on the same programs. Maybe the master knows better. I, as a user, say.
Bijou
Quote: OlgaGera
Maybe the master knows better. I, as a user, say.
That straight .. he knows better. Potryndet he is a master, hike.))
Olga VB
I will not argue about different programs in different machines, but no matter how these programs are called, in the old CM everything was erased and washed. In the new LV, everything is only slightly refreshed. On any programs. There is not enough evil for her!
I don’t know if all modern SMs have such a sin, or only narrow ones, or only my model, or all LV, but after butting with this miracle of technology I’m just in a stupor before choosing another car
Giraffe
My new one does worse than the old one. If anything, the pack of powder was the same when changing machines.
Anchic
My new Samsung washes better than the previous Bosch (purchased in 2010). Samsung will be two years old in September. Bosch was enough for 4 years - the bearing flew, and the tank turned out to be non-separable.
Bijou
Anchic, priests .. In those years, it was good for Bosch if one model for ten had a non-separable tank (more precisely, for the entire model range there was only one or two), how did you manage to buy it? ((
Anchic
Bijou, so this is not indicated in the characteristics. I had a number of complaints about it, so I don't really regret its breakdown. Financially expensive, of course, but now I am already glad that it broke down. I like the current one much more.
Bijou
Quote: Anchic
I had a number of complaints about her
And what kind of model was you do not remember by chance?

It's good that the new one does better! Now I need to live longer.
Anchic
Lena, I don't remember now. Later I will try to look in the box with guarantees. It is unlikely that I have already thrown out the documents. I don't thin them out very often
LiudmiLka
I have had my Samsung machine for 15 years. There are few programs, only the most necessary. Many years ago I began to look for a new sophisticated model for myself, but it still did not break or break. And so, this winter finally waited.The master comes and says that the belt is stretched (as far as I understand, this is one of the simplest and cheapest "breakdowns"). He said that the pump will work for at least 2 years, then replace it, and the shock absorbers can be done now. I thought that nafih nadA - I will buy a new one. And he says that now there are no normal machines. He said about vertical loading that we, in Moldova, do not even need to think. And choose only from the front one and named 2 brands, but he twisted that they too And the funniest thing is that if I find a Chinese assembly, I must think that I was lucky and I should take it. Russian, Ukrainian, Romanian assemblies do not even think.

In short, I continue to wait for the machine to quack completely and dream… dream… dream of a new gorgeous one. And so, the other day it started flowing. She was determined to a new one - no more repairs !!! My son-in-law persuaded me to let her see him to a good friend. In short, the one comes, inserts the hose that has flown out due to old shock absorbers (it shook very strongly). I want him, they say, a new one. And he tells me that now 90% of the drums are disposable, made of some kind of glued plastic, that my 15-year-old typewriter is super simple and that we, in Moldova, cannot buy new machines at all. Can only be used imported from Germany. Why do I need someone's old stuff? Well, he's like, what is better - an old Mercedes or a new Zhiguli? I have a hope in my voice, but what about Polish-built cars? The answer was also not happy: "It depends on what they drank on the eve of the assembly."

Replaced the shock absorbers and that's it. If it breaks after some time, then there is a new pipe in the closet, such as "Volzhanka" - "Rigi". I don’t even remember the brand, I bought it in times of scarcity and never used it. Is it something to wash on it, if such a g ... is being produced now?
Giraffe
LiudmiLka, no one will understand you, I dare to assume. Who would have told me that you can revive my old Zanuska, I would be very, very happy. Girlfriend is already 3 !!! (Three, Karl!) I changed the cars and not one can compare with the one that came before them.
LiudmiLka
In the sense that an automatic machine can work for 15 years without repairs, and that the masters could not say that, and I came up with this myself? I do not wash every day, since the family is small (together), I get a maximum of 5 cycles per week. Perhaps that is why I worked for so long. Both masters are very skilled. The first has been working for many years in a large chain of household appliances stores, and the second is younger, but since 10 years old he ran with soldering irons, only with machines and has been engaged all his life. I honestly want a fancy car, its price does not matter, but the lottery is all here

And yet, look where I live. We have nothing normal anywhere. You can't even buy Teskom's kitchen trivia, one store was left with the remains of their goods.
Taia
My washing machine Vyatka worked for 20 years. In the last breakdown, they no longer dealt with it and replaced it with a new one.
And now Ardo has been working for 10 years. (TTT)
Long operating times of machines are not uncommon.


Added on Friday, Jul 29, 2016 08:45 AM

Quote: LiudmiLka
And yet, look where I live. We have nothing normal anywhere. You can't even buy Teskom's kitchen trivia, one store was left with the remains of their goods.

This is exactly what you will find figs.
Lyudmila, what exactly are you looking for teskomovsky?
LiudmiLka
Taya, in general, I really love their mechanical tools, different meat grinders. They need a wiping sieve, but they ran out of them long ago, and there is nothing new.
Taia
LiudmiLka, went to PM.
Giraffe
Quote: LiudmiLka

In the sense that an automatic machine can work for 15 years without repairs, and that the masters could not say that, and I came up with this myself?

I mean, they won't understand your dreams about the car breaking down. You read the topic? Modern, few can boast of the quality of washing and reliability.
LiudmiLka
So I wanted a new one and with a lot of functions, a larger size
auntyirisha
When I was choosing mine, I read somewhere that the best ones were V-ZUG, Schultess, Kuppersbusch, but there was a price tag. They wrote that it is very important for the quality of washing that they have a lot of holes in the drum. I wonder if we have someone with such a machine. Listen to the reviews.
kolobashka
I have never heard of such people. Maybe it's just you sell? Who is doing?
Irgata
Quote: Kolobashka
Who is doing?
Switzerland. more than 300,000 rubles.

Bijou
Did you type-merge it, like you've washed it already?))
Irgata


patented in 1912, it even has a gas water heater, an electric squeezer

redleafa
Who is looking for a non-domestic assembly? Do you want Korea? Look at the Daewoo. They even have a wall. I have a Daewoo nt1212, for 7 kg, a year ago it cost 12.5 thousand. It makes a little noise when drawing water, or rather a click when the water is turned on and a click when it is turned off, when I was looking after my car, I was looking for songs not to sing, I'm not buying a radio. Therefore, I did not consider the Samsung and skis, they were painfully vociferous. I have an ordinary, budget machine.
Scarecrow
Well, me and my Mile now wash all cars badly (my mother's, sisters, etc.). If I come to change, I don’t know what to do !! Once again, Mile to buy me will be strangled by a toad irrevocably))). And then it will not smother back)).

Right now I need a typewriter at the "dacha". I don't even know from which end to approach the choice ...
OlgaGera
Nata, I know what you mean
Go to Avito. I bought a mile there for a summer residence. Well, I could not adjust to the other
Scarecrow
OlgaGera,

Did you buy it? Not afraid that something was wrong there?
Tanyusha
ScarecrowDo you also have a dacha Natusik?
Scarecrow
Tanyusha,

Tan, grandmother's apartment. She haunts me as a memory (this is all my childhood) and is located in a small town in the middle of the nat. Ugra park. For all normal people, a dacha is a home. And I live in a house, and the dacha is an apartment.)))

There is also Optina Pustyn, the Zhizdra river - everything is practically within walking distance. My grandfather and his team were restoring Optina Pustyn, I was a girl who jumped around the monastery's old cemetery. And I swam in Zhizdra ..
$ vetLana
Quote: Scarecrow
Right now I need a typewriter at the "dacha". I don't even know from which end to approach the choice ...
I'm looking for a dacha (but we have gardening - we don't live in winter) a front-loading machine. I need one with mechanical control, but now only babies are released under the sink with this, they are made in Poland. The price bites.
Quote: OlgaGera
Go to Avito. I bought a mile there for a summer residence.

Lelya, and you bought from a private ad. face, no guarantee?
Another option for me is a used technician from Europe - but this is a pig in a poke.
Most likely these are repaired cars from the trash heap.

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