Washing machine: which one to buy

I don't like vertical

, me too, (and I was very happy when the motor at the vertical was welded, I really wanted to return to normal loading.
Now the technique, not that the lottery, it is initially set up (most) already for a certain time of work either in hours, or for the number of washes ... no one is hiding this anymore ... we need a turnover, so the main thing is good washed it, liked it in operation and erased all the bad settings of the manufacturer from memory,

bent into ... well, what, the technique is kind of smart, let her like the new place and she doesn't want to be changed

I had a couple of questions about drying machines. Not only about Lyuska, but in general. -in a separate dryer there is a filter that catches all kinds of dust and pellets. Even on YouTube yesterday I was impressed by what deposits are accumulating there. And where does this dust go in the washer and dryer ??? -When the machine dries, does it get very hot? Is the temperature in the bathroom going up? If it rises, is it tolerable, or is the sauna straight? And then I like to keep any cosmetics on a typewriter, my lipstick will not melt? - the smell. Here I read the reviews, people complain about the foreign smell from the laundry. - consumption of water and electricity. I understand that it cools with water, pours a lot into the sewer? About electricity I understand approximately that dofiga. I resigned myself to this :)

Having been the owner of two tumble dryers and one tumble dryer for the time being, I can say the following.
And the machine with the dryer and the machine are heated. The machine is smaller. Cosmetics should not be kept on dryers. Initially, I had Electrolux, I liked it very much, served faithfully for 10 years, survived three transfers. Then, somehow, in a couple of months, everything broke down in it. The machine had a filter on the bottom, it was very clogged with dust, it had to be cleaned very often. Now there is Siemens, oddly enough I like the drying modes in Siemens less than they were in Electrolux, but the machine is made in such a way that it itself washes away the dust from drying on its own, and it has a self-cleaning mode after drying, as it gets dirty, it will signal. It spends little electricity, the technology is energy-saving, but even if it has a saving status of AA or AAA, that is, 0.8 kW per hour (which is not enough), but in fact, if it dries for 3 hours, then 0.8 * 3 = 2.4. There is still a lot in the absolute. I never thought about how much it drains into the sewer.
I have the following summary. If it is possible to have a typewriter and an automatic machine, then you need to take two devices separately. The drying quality is completely different. In the washer, only the simplest drying modes can be compared with the automatic machine. And the drying principle is different.

[Twig]

Twig, Veta! I have Mile and I am very happy with her. We bought it twelve years ago. Our doorways are standard. Everything passed. One thing is bad: if you repair / program with official repairmen, it turns out to be very expensive. We had to reprogram at the very beginning, because the house was new, and the water pressure was initially small. The car went on strike. So the master takes for reprogramming every minute. I didn't have a tumble dryer. Mile squeezes out so that it is very quick to dry. But friends who have machines with dryers dissuaded me from buying such a machine: the probability of its breakdown will double at least, since the load is greater: it washes and dries. Of course, if there is a need for drying, it is better to buy a separate "drying"

I can't put a separate one. Nowhere.
There is a place for a full-size car in the bathroom, but you can't get in there, the opening is 58 cm.
I don’t want to put it in a column, it’s very cumbersome for my bathroom, and full-fledged dryers are all full-sized.
Damn, how we brought Gorenie into the bathtub is a series with a call to the master and a parsing of the doorway. Now, again, we will first try to disassemble by a screw, the protruding parts - the handles and the hatch to remove.



Here again about Millet

I heard from my friend on skiing with a direct drive: I jumped so much during spinning that I had to firmly glue my legs to the floor

[Exocat]

Exocat, Ludmila, Siemens - separate drying? And it must also be connected to the water, right?

Exocat, Ludmila, Siemens - separate drying? And it must also be connected to the water, right?

I had and still have some:
Electrolux with dryer, bought in 2003, in principle, I consider it an ideal washing machine with dryer.
Siemens is a washing machine with a dryer, less satisfied with it.
I have a Bosch dryer. It does not need to be connected to water. But there is a nuance. It can be connected to the sewer for your own convenience. Or to regularly drain water from it by hand, it has a special tray for water and a special tray for collecting dust.

[Twig]

Twig, did you call me? Well Duc I pinned myself. Pruvet!
So, in order:
There is no special filter in my car that traps the fluff during drying - they remain in the drum. By the way, not every linen has these fibers, more often - from terry. My model has a self-cleaning function, but I always forget how it turns on, so I just run the program of one rinse, the shortest, for 16 minutes. But after drying, an hour must pass before starting any program, so as not to force the machine. It should cool down, the manufacturer advises. After rinsing, almost all the villi are simply washed off into the sewer, you just need to walk inside the seal with your finger, so that there is certainly nothing left.
As for the temperature in the bathroom: yes, if the door is closed (and it most likely will be, since you are going to wash at night), then the air temperature in the bathroom will rise. Not hell, of course, but it will be comparatively warmer. I wouldn't leave lipstick on the car. It is not hot, but only warm, and of course the lipsticks will not melt, but you should not keep them in such warmth so that all kinds of bacteria in them do not multiply, lipsticks will simply deteriorate faster.
Now about the smell: an unpleasant smell can appear only in two cases: if a program with a high washing temperature is rarely started and if there is a habit of tightly closing the hatch. In the second case, this is practically a guarantee of the appearance of vonism. I never close the hatch of my car until it clicks, as for washing, but just press it tightly until it "half-click". The door is fixed, but the machine does not close hermetically, and the air entering it dries the tank. Thus, even after seventeen years, there will be no foreign smells in the car - checked on Lyuski.
Cleaning a tumble dryer is no different from just a washing machine. You buy an anti-calcium cleaner or an antibacterial one (if, God forbid, cocoa mold or stink does appear) and start the program according to the instructions.
What else ... ah, yes, I can't say anything about the electricity consumption, I haven't counted it since the first Lyuska came to me. But I confess honestly, I don't dry everything in the car, for example, bed linen - I don't care (I don't feel like ironing it later, so I hang it wet, fold it four times and iron it. , towels, bathrobes. They are straight fluffy-fluffy obtained. Well, no-no, no-no, it will not hurt to dry blankets. And so on little things, when urgently needed. Therefore, drying does not work so often for me. But I don't want a car without her.
And I still turned on another additional rinse on an ongoing basis - so I'm somehow calmer.
Oh, I don’t know, I’ve written everything ... I won’t praise my Lyuska, well, her nafik, I’ll jinx isho, thu-thu-thu.

on ski with direct drive: I jumped so much during spinning that I had to firmly glue the legs to the floor

, I don’t know, I have a tile, and the machine is set on a level, (here Asko was jumping even when she was set, she always supported the wall sideways ..)

I do not plan to buy Asko and ski. Do we have Siemens owners who are assembled in Russia? I'm interested in build quality.

Yeah, I'm recording
To evict the cosmetologist from the bath.
After drying, turn on rinsing.
And then after the swirls you wash your dark linen, and it will be covered in white dust (well, like a couple of times the napkins were washed in your pocket. Nobody had it?)
And vice versa.

About the smell. Yesterday I watched the vidosik. The master tore the sheets in half and simultaneously turned on the dryer and the tumble dryer. And then he smelled and shared his impressions.
So, he said, it dried out the same, but the smell is different.
Well, then he showed the dust collector in the dryer and where this dust is lumped in a machine with a dryer (there are some tanks on the side, but they are not cleaned, just a design feature.)
Well, the machine with the dryer was ditched, with mold in the place where the powder and rinse aid are poured. It's no wonder you get a moldy smell in your washed laundry.

I do not plan to buy Asko and ski. Do we have Siemens owners who are assembled in Russia? I'm interested in build quality.

Now the problem is not even in the quality of the assembly, but in the quality of the metal and plastic of the elements that make up the machine. So this quality, regardless of the place of assembly, leaves much to be desired. My tumble dryer and built-in was assembled either in Italy or in Germany, I don’t remember exactly, but I would like better plastic.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana,

I do not plan to buy Asko and ski. Do we have Siemens owners who are assembled in Russia? I'm interested in build quality.

I have Siemens in the country. I don’t know the place of assembly, but I’m hardly a European, so there are two options, either China or Russia (I don’t get hung up on the assembly sites)
I love her! I like the programs and the quality of washing. The drum inside is not only made of holes, but holes with pimples.
The assembly is excellent, no backlashes, defects and torn T-shirts

[Twig]

Twig, VetaThank you very much for your feedback. Is it full size? I need a narrow one, but such in Germany do not collect, unfortunately.

[$ vetLana]

In short, I almost made up my mind. We need to take the Italian Electrolusya (I have 5 more days to think about it)

I also ordered a Samsung WW80K52E61S machine for 26 thousand (also 5 days to think it over, suddenly she will not agree categorically with Lucy) this is a Russian woman, 1200 rpm, steam wash.




$ vetLana, Svetlana, narrow for me. Tomorrow I'll go to the dacha to do the laundry, I can more accurately see the country of origin.
As far as I remember, German ones are one and a half to two times more expensive. And I bought for the dacha, wash clothes after the garden :)
In typewriters, I pay attention to how the washing powder is poured, how well it rinses out and how clean it is after washing in the tray. Siemens is neat.

$ vetLana, Svetlana, I have a narrow one. Tomorrow I'll go to the dacha to wash, I can more accurately see the country of origin

Thank you. And the model



And my narrow Luxya will go to the dacha to live out her life. I'm looking for a replacement for her. I need a machine with soaking, and now Electrolux does not produce narrow machines with such a function, but I saw Siemens.

I'll see tomorrow. There is a program with a prewash, but did not wash on it. I don't know the algorithm. In the old Ariston, after soaking, the water was not drained, but a new portion of water with powder was added and washed further. Here in the topic, this feature has already been paid attention. So after that, I do not erase anything with a predictive soak, it was deposited in the subconscious that this is a garbage program.

[Svetochka]

So I have been reading you in my city Boshik for more than 20 years, not all the programs are working, I understand that I will have to change soon, I want to dry it, of course, but virgins, this is under 70tyr as it turned out unexpectedly for me I hope Boshik will still serve and I will have time to get used to such prices. Svetochka, I will look up to you, you will just choose, you will understand everything, and there I will follow in your footsteps

I'll see tomorrow. There is a program with a prewash, but did not wash on it. I don't know the algorithm. In the old Ariston, after soaking, the water was not drained, but a new portion of water with powder was added and washed further. Here in the topic, this feature has already been paid attention. So after that, I do not erase anything with a predictive soak, it was deposited in the subconscious that this is a garbage program.

In my old electrolux, this program was great. There were two compartments for powder. The water exactly merged with the first portion of the powder, everything was washed off with the second portion.

In my opinion, I already wrote here that in my Ariston (Margarita 2000), when the Soak button is turned on (in the instructions, this is called a preliminary wash), the water is drained (without spinning), then it is drawn for the main wash. In general, I only recently started using this function, but now all the time.

[Svetochka]

Svetochka,

a friend of ours brought himself a washing machine from a finca, a discount, scratched somewhere in an inconspicuous place, says two times cheaper than it would cost here. Maybe look for such an option, well, really, under 100 tyr, the toad will strangle on fick

[Mandraik Ludmila]

In my Electrolux there is Soaking - this is a separate program (lasting from 20 minutes to 18 hours (if I remember correctly) - this program must be in a new car. There is Pre-wash - this is not a separate program, but part of some programs. It includes washing is short and spinning, and then the main program begins.
I actively use both functions.



Mandraik Ludmila, Buttercup, why are you considering so dear? I'm going to buy up to 30t. or slightly more expensive. You can bring something, but I'm interested in specific programs. And I need a narrow one. I wanted to buy a Finnish washing machine for my dacha. Looked at the prices. Less than 10t. there are no decent ones. And my machine is already old, I don't know how long it will last. Therefore, squeaking in my heart, I decided to buy a new one in the city, and take the old one to the dacha.
Luda, what kind of washing machine do you have in your village?

Well, the machine with the dryer was ditched, with mold in the place where the powder and rinse aid are poured.

In my new Lyuska, I don't put the powder in the tray (I remember fiddling with the old one, cleaning the tray from time to time. It seems that everything is washed off purely visually, but after a while they appear like stone growths from the powder). In my opinion, somewhere here in the subject, the girls were advised to put the powder directly into the drum on the laundry - the problem of cleaning the tray was immediately solved. I never got it - finally babble!

Incidentally, if you are interested, there is no soaking in my model. And pre-wash, too, it seems, no (at least, I did not find. Nuuu ... not that much looking for ... but still). I haven't used these programs for a long time on an old car, so their absence didn't matter to me. But if you need it, then give it up before it's too late.

, why are you considering so dear? I'm going to buy up to 30t. or slightly more expensive.

Apparently because there are no such prices by drying. From 60 thousand the price starts.

Yes, unfortunately, drying the car is more expensive.

In my Electrolux there is Soaking - this is a separate program (lasting from 20 minutes to 18 hours (if I remember correctly) - this program must be in a new car. There is Pre-wash - this is not a separate program, but part of some programs. It includes washing is short and spinning, and then the main program begins.I actively use both functions.

Yes, my old Electrolux was just that. Very comfortably.

I have had a typewriter for 15 years, Ardo is of Italian assembly, the first time broke after 8 years, something happened to the "brains" (the master said), repaired and advised not to change it for as long as possible, since we cannot buy this one now.Then, after 4-5 years, it broke down again, the same master came, made a diagnosis - a pump, said where to buy (very cheap at his huge personal discount) and explained how to deliver so as not to pay him money for it. They moved to a new apartment while TTT was working, but not long ago it seemed to me that it smelled burnt, got scared, opened the top cover, went through the entire washing cycle, nothing was running out, there was no smoke, the smell also disappeared, but decided not to load the old woman too much I took the jackets, blankets and pillows to the self-service laundry room, I really liked it, I think that sometimes I will wash and dry large things there, it's not very expensive for the money, I just have to spend time.

Girls from St. Petersburg, it's easier for you, yes. The Finnish border is near.
In the nineties, we also bought equipment from Germany, my mother lives in the Baltic States, and now, probably, you can buy a decent Mile at a reasonable price.
Eh, where are we, and where is that border
I looked at Avito, they sell such equipment here. But in Moscow it is dumb to buy something like that. Too expensive to bring and take, and if there are any problems, communicate with the masters.
I ordered yesterday with a promo code for 5 thousand, a couple of thousand will fall on the card, and a thousand cashback, it's not all that bad. I'll go study the programs again.
No soaking - maybe it is not necessary?
I only wash the curtains two full cycles in a row. You could probably soak them.

Apparently because there are no such prices by drying. From 60 thousand the price starts.

LV and Candy are significantly cheaper with drying. About 30t.

but not long ago it seemed to me that it smelled burnt, got scared, opened the top lid, went through the entire washing cycle, no where there was nothing, there was no smoke, the smell also disappeared,

This is the beginning of the end ... that's how it was with Electrolux. It seems to smell, and it seems not. It happened a couple of times. Then, six months later, the machine went bad.

LV and Candy are significantly cheaper with drying. About 30t.

Well, I won't say anything about kandy, I don't know. And the LV considered, as an option, refused. Unfortunately, there were many complaints about it precisely because of the smell of rubber and plastic during drying. I even know people who handed over such a machine due to the fact that the black rubber band stinked terribly when heated, and the laundry afterwards too. It was after looking at them that I found a place for a drying machine.
So 30t. R. it's not just that, free cheese happens ...

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Siemens is narrow, but I do not know which assembly. Not deshovaya, I've had it for 5 years already, I'm happy as an elephant, I love her very much.

[Tanyusha]

TanyushaWhen you can, write a model.

I also ordered a Samsung WW80K52E61S machine

Are you ready to replace it in three years? Samsung and Koreans rarely live longer now ...

And more advice. Before buying - find instructions on the Internet and read carefully. In any machine there are nuances in the work of programs. For example, some are not temperature controlled. Some cannot be supplemented with a prewash. Little things, but it is important to understand these nuances before buying.

Well, by weight. I think all owners of washing machines know this, but I'll write anyway. The maximum weight is for the cotton program only. All other programs - half, or even a third of this weight. Little drums now. In reality, 8 kilos of cotton cannot be stuffed into it. And you don't have to try. Does not wash, does not rinse.

For all the fragility of Samsung, it has its own handy chips. For example, the ability to add up to 5 rinses in the main wash modes. Very friendly interface.

But there are also disadvantages. Samsung does not like wet rooms. If you put it in the bathroom, do not close the hatch during idle time. The electronics damp, and the car "jams".

Another disadvantage is that he does not like to wash a small amount of laundry. You have to add spinning twice before she expands it and can unwind.

The car needs to be washed quite often. The hatch has a multi-layer rubber cuff, pile is stuffed there. And you can only wash it by hand, with a sponge or rag. It is imperative to clean the lower filter, it is somehow inconvenient, it seems there are many holes, but for some reason it gets clogged with undissolved powder. The powder is better granular, she does not like fine (like powder).

Don't look that there are more cons. The car is good. I just described what is worth paying attention to. I have a slightly different model, but also from 8.0 samsungs with bubbles. Couple no. About bubbles - there are one or two programs with them. I did not notice much difference in the quality of washing. As before - the right powder does the bulk of the work.

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, my model is ws10m441oe, but it is not available for sale. Now there are new models. Mine is already 5 years old.

I started reading about drying machines. I liked very much how Lena Tim praises her Lyuska.

Have you read to the place where she already repaired it?
Lenka, come on out and inject, what pitfalls your Lyuksya has given you

Have you decided to take me out into the open? Oh well...
I haven't repaired the car. Thinking that my drying was running out, the repair of which would cost such a pretty penny, I did not call the master for a long time - there was no money right next to it. But the master who installed the hood for us in the kitchen turned out to be what is called "of all trades". They asked me to look at the car. It turned out that some kind of contact had oxidized, the master cleaned it and everything worked as before. I didn't even take money. Therefore, I did not write it down as a breakdown.
It's good that I didn't write about this in the topic before - I shouldn't have mentioned my drying.
I satisfied my craving for truthfulness, eh, Olga Vadimovna?

What am I? And I'm nothing!
Was Hvakt? Did you receive information? Was the public informed?
I can't walk by. Otherwise, even my relatives will not recognize me, if I don’t shake it up with my cravings.In my case, not only contacts can oxidize, but also an expression muzzles faces. You won't be the first to recognize me!
So that

[Tanyusha]

Tanyusha, have dozens already? I have a 12th model, she is over 10 years old. Narrow, heavy! The bathroom is dead! There was one problem - it did not rinse it very much, but now it has switched to the household. stain soap + phoenix and mustache!

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Svetlana, about Siemens. I have a Chinese woman. WS10O240OE

I looked in the mvideo, there is the same, in the middle instead of O there is a letter G. This is a Russian woman, everything is similar, but I have a drum with a different pattern.

I wash in the country now, dry in the fresh air. What a smell the laundry has! Windy freshness!

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, my model is ws10m441oe, but it is not available for sale. Now there are new models. Mine is already 5 years old.

$ vetLana, Svetlana, about Siemens. I have a Chinese woman. WS10O240OE

I'll see what kind of machine. Thank you.

I wash in the country now, dry in the fresh air. What a smell the laundry has! Windy freshness

That's it, I decided on the Electrolux with drying.
There are 2 models, the size is the same, the pictures are also. One, like Lena Tim, 1600 rpm and 8 kg
The second, 1400 and 7 kg. The sizes are the same. The second one is a bit cheaper, I will probably choose it.
I won't overpay for the silver hatch.
I will read the instructions for both of them at my leisure.

That's it, I decided on the Electrolux with drying.
There are 2 models, the size is the same, the pictures are also. One, like Lena Tim, 1600 rpm and 8 kg
The second, 1400 and 7 kg. The sizes are the same. The second one is a bit cheaper, I will probably choose it.
I won't overpay for the silver hatch.
I will read the instructions for both of them at my leisure.

a good choice

[T]

Tanyusha, have you got dozens already? I have a 12th model

10, 12, 14 at the beginning are not car models. This is the number of spin revolutions.)

ws10m441oe

I have a Chinese woman. WS10O240OE

Chinese sisters?)) Cars that are very similar to each other, it’s not even clear why they were carried along different lines. Very successful models for their time.

Now, if I'm not confused, the SIEMENS WS12 machine most similar to themT440OE / BOSCH WLT24440OE and other Bosch / Siemens type WLK, WLN, WLL and so on (for identity, although not one hundred percent, the highlighted letter should be in the middle of Siemens)

I read a little. They write that Boshey-Siemens has a very expensive service. Zap. parts from Germany

I read a little. They write that Boshey-Siemens has a very expensive service. Zap. parts from Germany

Terribly expensive, it is.

Zap. parts from Germany

Depends on what. If the "brains", display, tank, drum or cuffs, etc., then yes. ((

We changed our heating element twice (our water is to blame), once the pump (I washed the box of matches, which completely pressed the filter and tubes, and the pump worked for six months before it died) and once the shock absorbers (it was not necessary to wash a huge double a furry blanket that absorbed several buckets of water).

A heating element in a small shop with spare parts for household appliances cost 400 rubles (the old temperature sensor was left), a pump 450, shock absorbers for 1800 rubles, all three pieces.
The husband stuck this thing into the car with his own hand, that is, for free.))

[$ vetLana]

$ vetLana, Svetlana, maybe ... but Siemens are reliable ... It's a pity that they merged with the Bosch. Read the reviews for the model you are targeting. My cousin bought a typewriter for my mother, Ariston, she is happy, and I sealed my mouth with a plaster and I sit silently - they managed to find the only NON-REPAIRABLE model, or rather not so - if the bearings fail (and this is the weakest link in this machine!) , then you will have to change the entire tank with all the filling - at a price like a new one.

It's a pity that they merged with the Bosch

Agree . I read reviews, it only gets worse

My Candy washing machine is almost 15 years old, I am already thinking that it is time to change it soon. But my choice is very limited - I need a washing machine depth of 33 cm. The choice is very small, Bosch Siemens do not make such narrow machines. So, probably, Candy again ... There are not very many reviews about other models, but at least this brand is checked by me.

I was disappointed in LV. I'm waiting for it to break. it says quiet wash, so she screams at the whole house. And it rides, yes. Here I myself think what next to take.

I deliberately took a machine for 1000 rpm, I don't want it anymore.