Washing machine: which one to buy

Yeah, thank you.) I bought a wattmeter, so now I measure everything. I haven't gotten to the washing machine yet ... And now I'm afraid to think about drying, the kettle has been working for five minutes, but it takes longer.)

[Lena]

Lena, you can look from the other side.
Less often turn on the vacuum cleaner, because less dust "hedgehogs" fly around the apartment. Less time dusting. The air is cleaner. We get sick less often. Iron for garments only. So, where it left, it came to another. The law of communicating vessels. Less bed linen in everyday life, because removed / washed / dried out / refilled.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, Lenochka, are you silent? How do you like your new assistant ??? Write, we are waiting ...

Oh, Lyudok, I didn’t know that they were expecting a report from me ...
Well, sobsna, I did not write anything with enthusiastic squeals because I bought almost the same thing that I had. Well, perhaps, the model is modern. In the new one there is a drum for 8 kg (it was 5.5), but I chose it not so much for washing (in my life I will not get 8 kg of the same type of laundry at full load), but for drying, because here the larger the drum, the faster and the drying process is better - in the spacious drum the laundry practically does not wrinkle. Actually, I didn't have any problems with the old car in this sense, I even managed to dry 70x70 pillows in it. The only problem here was the loading and unloading of the pillow, because the hatch of the old cars is not very large. In the new models, the hatches are quite impressive. Well, the spin speed of the new one is higher - it was 1400, it is 1600 ...
I got a boring report, right? That's why I didn't write anything. I just don't know what to write ...
Oh, I remembered! Well I have now with whom the tsapatz, while Timon is at work!
The "time manager" regularly argues with me. Almost every day: they say, excuse me, madam, but I refuse to wash this amount of laundry in the microscopic time you specified! And, they say, do not even ask!
Oh, gru, a sprat can! Whom they cheat, erase! Figo, grit.
Okay, I say, you have another 5 minutes, choke!
- I agree, only then reduce the speed a little ...
- Figo!
- Then why oh why you - a fig!
- Okay, to hell with you, 1400 will do?
- That's another matter! Well done! Press start and get out of here. ... and take your dog ... and the second ...

Well, isn't it lovely ?! Who else would I talk to, except gophers ?!

Who else would I talk to, besides gophers ?!

Lenk, judging by the fact that you are talking with a sprat can, a squirrel is walking somewhere nearby It is possible that you are talking to her

Oh hospadya! Who's here ?!
Olk, you, stoll? ... And Luda de?
Why are you kolobrod at night in the dark, scare the people?
Don't you see, I already have squirrels, then gophers ...

Then i

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[Elena Tim]

Oh, I remembered! I have now with whom the Tsapatza

Elena Tim, Lenus, well, it's a cool report! You were bored, well then I'll write the details of communication
Cool "bank" you have! Let it serve for a long time and please you, of course

Lenusichek, thanks!

[Elena Tim]

Elena TimWhat a wonderful review, everything is clear at once I wanted the same wash

[Alexander]

Alexander, Thank you!
Oh, while you're here, I have a business with you. And not only to you, maybe the collective mind will advise what ...
I'm going to nag ...

Added Monday, 06 Jun 2016 12:35 pm

All jokes, but I have a problem here - there is a hole in the wall to drain the water from the car. There is a pipe in it.And it is located so that from the wall it "looks", naturally, directly at you, and then, about 4 centimeters deep, turns sharply to the left and goes down along the wall, into the sewer. This was done specifically for the car, that is, the hose is simply inserted, wound up to the left deep into the pipe, without any fasteners it keeps there and shoves water there in a straight line. For eleven years an old car stood there and perfectly drained water. But in the new car the hose is just oak. It is flexible only when leaving the car, and then it already resembles plastic, like a vacuum cleaner. So, because of this, he refuses to turn to the left in the pipe, well, except that the very little managed to shove him there. But this turned out to be not enough, since a strong stream of water from the car does not fly straight into a free pipe, but beats into this very turn. Thus, we have formed a leak - part of the water rushes back out. No, it, of course, does not pour like a bucket, but just drips, but it drips not somewhere, but straight on my nerves!
Good people, help, who can do anything. We already have the brains of the enemy. What we just didn’t come up with - this bastard (hoses) does not want to climb there (into the pipe)!

Added Monday, 06 Jun 2016 1:04 PM

Well, where is everything?

Added Monday, 06 Jun 2016 1:07 pm

But what about "Help your neighbor" ... does not cling, no?

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People, ayuuuu!

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, Flax, a photo of a drain in the studio, it will be easier to understand.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim,

Well, where is everything?

Kakbe .. at work ..
1. Option, buy a short meter long extension cord made of soft material. 2. Buy a ring-adapter for a fan, but at the same time in the washing system-drain hose 90% during drainage, an unbroken stream of water (vacuum) in the pipe will form, this will lead to a constant drainage of water by gravity. 3. The third option is to drain to the sink and connect it through a siphon, if there is an adapter in the siphon.

but it does not drip somewhere, but straight on my nerves!

If your nerves suffer - to drink sedatives and B vitamins!
Why don't you buy a 1m drain hose extension (with connecting pipe and clamps), it's flexible and not a hassle!

Len, look, it is quite possible that since the machines are identical, the hoses there are also identical.
That is, you can (?) Be rearranged "this bastard (hoses)"from an old car to a new one.

[sazalexter]

Here zhezh, eh! While I was sitting, I waited for an answer - no one! Soooo at this, I hoisted my hands in flour - the laptop "bzdyn" - the topic was "washing machine"! And then he bzdynknul twice more ... I thought I would die of curiosity, while the meat in the pie phala. Yes, I never made pies at such a rate! This is what the Life-Giving Bread Maker does with people!

Kakbe .. at work ..

What is more expensive for you than me ?!
No, better not answer, the question was purely rhetorical, and the answer will clearly not be in my favor.

buy a short meter long extension cord made of soft material

buy a meter extension for the drain hose

Yeah, it means that my husband and I were thinking in the right direction, but I was simply obliged to consult with smart people.
sazalexter, Sens and Olka Thank you very much for responding and not leaving us to disappear in a puddle.
Today, after work, my husband drives for an extension cord and for ... like them ... well, I'll let him read your instructions.

it is possible (?) to rearrange "this bastard (hoses)" from the old machine to the new one.

The old hose went to the trash heap along with the old typewriter. He said he couldn't live without her.
Otherwise I would have attached it long ago.

Added Monday, 06 Jun 2016 2:41 pm

drink sedatives

Afobazol will go?
Manka prescribed it for me, I didn't talk to cars.

Afobazol will go?

This is if only 12-16 degrees * and above wash then nada

Gyyy, if I wash the hoses after Afobazol, then not only talk ... I will climb to kiss the machine.
She certainly won't survive that.

Peace be with you bakers!
If you could not fix something with scotch tape, then you bought a little scotch tape

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim, and you have a machine with aquastop? If so, then you need to call either the service center or the store where they took the machine and ask - they only have this flexible (well, like the same robe only with mother-of-pearl buttons)
Girls, for aquastop, a simple extension cord will not help - the chain will be broken ...

[vatruska]

vatruska, are you talking about the drain hose?

[vatruska]

vatruska, The extension is not for the set, but for draining the water. And it connects in any case not to the break of the machine and the hose, but to the extension.

[sazalexter]

sazalexter, now I got into the description of the machine - I was very wrong ... fig knows why I decided that he was standing on the drain ... In general, as I remembered, my cousin moved the machine to another place and there the drain hose did not reach - he increased ... in general, anyway it turns out just to buy a hose of a different length, unless the dryers are from another opera - what if a solid drain is needed for something?

Peace be with you bakers!
If you could not fix something with scotch tape, then you bought a little scotch tape

he knew!!!

I found a way out: I wrapped it on top of the bandage with ointment with mounting paper tape

Peace be with you bakers!
Well, the editing one is of course flimsy - for the paper
But on the reinforced one at my work, half of the pipes are held - for not fig

For those whose "manager" is not harmful. I don’t argue with my parasite, but I go straight to the last point from Lenochka’s dialogue: “Go on, choke on, you brute!”. And I taught my family not to argue with these pieces of iron.
With the drain, I did not drill anything, but took the bracket supplied with the washer, fixed it to the wall and simply brought the hose into the bathtub. Although the hose is very flexible and can be rolled into a ring.
This is how it looks everyday.


And this is the hose itself


There is one inconvenience - you cannot wash and wash at the same time.

Steadfastly withstood all the mockery of my half about my dense unaestheticness. For that it is cheap, reliable and practical, as Lelik used to say
There was only one incident with ... (I will not point a finger). While taking a bath, the owner of a heightened sense of aesthetics took out the hose from the bath. And how could I know that he will not be returned to his place ?! I forgot !!!
After my laconic summary of what had happened, expressed in the thoughtful "M-dyaaaa ...", this did not happen again. : hi:

[Wit]

Wit, once upon a time, we also had a hose sticking out. But for more than 10 years (I don't remember exactly), the drain hose has been firmly inserted into the drain pipe. Honestly, I don't even know how it all works, but now there are special fastening bolts-nuts and everything is available for sale

Peace be with you bakers!

WIT-

Washing in my kitchen and draining stupidly into the sink

although everything is adapted for installation in a drain pipe \ initially it was \ but had to be abandoned, how many pipes were the same tin \ the Khrushchev built in 61 \ and with intensive pressing the water already fountains upwards

[shade]

shade, Tolya!

Well, isn't it lovely ?!

The beauty of everything you write about, my dear Sister !!! Even when describing SM you can arrange a mini performance in faces !!!
And the function "Steam" you also had in the old CM ??? If not, how do you like this function ??? And one more question: the tank of the SM is made of stainless steel or carbon fiber ???

[Elena Tim]

This is what the Life-Giving Bread Maker does with people!

Elena Tim, and the truth is ... HUGE! I already forgot what topic I am in ... I thought in He laughed himself...

Added on Tuesday 07 Jun 2016 00:38

then not only talk ... I’ll go to the typewriter to kiss. She certainly won't survive that.

She's okay, she'll beat it off! And Timon, why ...
Nooo ..., wash such a machine, a holy cause!

Incidentally, Lenk, does your can have a collapsible hatch?
Here is the infection! Taki gave me confusion. Now I go all over thinking and think about the combination

"On, choke on, you bastard!"

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Fui, thank God, I'm not the only one! So, my head is all right, and tranquilizers with a straitjacket can be canceled.

I took the bracket supplied with the washer, fixed it to the wall and simply brought the hose into the bathtub.

I was, too, soaped up to do something similar, at least as a temporary measure, but I did not succeed: firstly, I have not just a bath, but a shower box with doors, moreover, the doors are not compartments, but swing doors. .. And the bath itself has very wide sides (you can sit on them). In short, there is no way to attach a hose there so that it holds. And secondly, and most importantly, the hose simply will not reach there. Well, or it will be vnatyag and it will be necessary to step over it - horror in general, some ambushes all around.

And the function "Steam" you also had in the old CM ??? If not, how do you like this function ???

Nope, Lud, there was no such function in the old one. But right now - yes.
This is a function I really need. It was possible to buy a car without it, and cheaper, but I really need it. I'll tell you why ...
Several times a year, in the off-season, some things are taken out and others put away for storage. Before cleaning, like all people, I wash these things. But after lying in the closet for several months, they still lose their freshness. So, Timon will never wear such clothes, even if you glamor him. I ask: "Does it stink?" Grit: "No. But it's kind of ... not too fresh."
Therefore, of course, every time I had to, albeit on a short wash, but still rewash all the clothes, it became "too fresh" after all. Come on, when it comes to shirts, T-shirts and other cotton or synthetic crap, I washed and forgot. But when good woolen things are made "stale", and they are "made", you don't even have to worry, then my heart just bleeds - it's so sorry to muduz them in water again. And since it is still mismatched (after all, no one buys two or three absolutely identical jumpers or sweaters), the washing can take several days. Moreover, the whole thing is being dried unfolded, and I just run out of places for this. In general, several times a year this is a real problem.
So, about a week ago, Timon, being "in his repertoire", brought me a polo shirt and asked, as always, to "refresh". And I suddenly remembered that I now have a "freshener"! Just in case, for the purity of the experiment, I sniffed the whole shirt and found the smell of wood in it, not strong, but yes, it smelled like a wooden cabinet, yo-mine! I have never sniffed before - they give me, I wash ... and there is no time to sniff, I’m angry. In general, after 25 minutes I take out this shirt, and she ... Robyaty, it was as freshly washed and even smelled of air conditioner, which she had on since the last wash. Here we are both stunned!
But, I'm sure, if you try to shove something really smelling into the car, then the steam will hardly help. So you can only refresh clean and "slightly stale" things. The function is super! Lost I can't wait for autumn, when it will be possible to play with warm clothes.

And one more question: the tank of the SM is made of stainless steel or carbon fiber ???

I'll be short as always: YES! From carborane.

Nah ... to wash such a machine, a holy cause!

You offend, comrade chief! We did it immediately, as soon as they delivered to us, connected and washed the car. Frustrated with them and ran to the kitchen - to drink for the health of a new family member - Lyuska.

Does your can have a collapsible hatch?

Luyuyuk? Shaw, does that happen? And what for to disassemble the hatch? Do you want to wipe the dust there?
Olk, did you mean the tank for an hour? If so, then I have not the slightest idea about it, as a gritsa, "an autopsy will show", God forgive me, thu-thu-thu ...

from the infection! Taki gave me confusion. Now I go and think all about and think about the combination

Yes uzbagooiza! You seemed to be fine with everything. Here she is restless!

Well yes, tank ....
It was I who began to speak up against the background of intensified thoughts about the combination
You see, hic, what are you doing with people with your provocations?

No, no, Olk. Recently, I myself have become against buying what I do not need. The silver hatch in the typewriter does not count (I could not resist and overpaid purely for it).
So, no provocations. I honestly told you, if you are free to do without drying, do not bother. Take a good spin and you will be happy.

Olk, and Olk, and you know what fluffy and soft bath towels and bathrobes are obtained after drying, uuuuuuu, I want to bury myself in them and sit there all my life like on a cloud.
And terry sheetsiiiiiii ... finally fly away! Straight into which ones: 🔗

Lenk, here hto called you on this topic, eh ??? Now I can't imagine my life without the same typewriter

and I'll tell you a secret that soon there will be such a robot that iron all things and put them in a cupboard, so, even if you lose this, suffer be-be-be: girl_manikur:

Here hto called you into this topic, eh ???

Luda! All claims to her.

And you can not even seduce with your ironer, I have no place for such a place, thank you God! And then there are "envious eyes, grabbing hands", which is good indeed would like to wake up. Nafik, nafik.

Nafik, nafik.

did you think well? : girl_manikur: did you watch the video?

And I thought well, looked at the video and ran through the apartment again - no, there is no place.

[Lenochka]

and running into the kitchen - to drink for the health of a new family member - Lyuska.

I hope that you didn't name your new assistant after me ??? !!!

Lenochka, and the previous SM did you have a tank made of carbon or stainless steel ???
P.S. Sorry if I got it with stupid questions ...

Added Wednesday 08 Jun 2016 01:05

want to lose such, torment be-be-be

Louise, Th did I do you bad ???
I didn't run around the apartment .... I just now WANT WANT WANT this miracle unit !!!

Added on Wednesday, 08 Jun 2016 01:11

sazalexter, Alexander, now an extreme question (from the blonde) to you ... What material is the tank better / safer from stainless steel or from carbon dioxide ???

Girls, I asked questions on the technical forum, they wrote to me:

1. Combined machines are always cut in terms of drying - it does not meet the requirements for drum volume per kilogram of laundry. Such machines will always dry longer and worse in quality - more folds.
There are no problems with fluff - there are no trapping filters, which means that dust and pellets from the fabric will accumulate in the air channel of the heat fan and partially fall out again on the laundry (the circuit is closed).
The durability of the combines is lower - complex electronics, thermal wear of the plastic and rubber elements of the tank, heating of the bearings and the drive shaft seal.
Repair is also on a different price list, much more expensive.
Such machines consume a lot of cold water, because it constantly sways onto the condenser and drains into the sewer while the drying cycle is running.
The steam boiler is not very powerful - no more than 1.5 kilowatts, there is no steam pump. The water boils and is supplied to the tank through a hose. Something like this was very much advertised by LG, but its steam acts more psychologically than practically.
And another moment - scale, which quickly forms inside the boiler. It is impossible to clean it chemically - there is no direct access. It is necessary to take the boiler out of the machine and clean it by hand.

What do you think of it?

[Olga]

What do you think of it?

Olga, I think this is true ...... because these are the answers from the TECHNICAL forum !!! And we are girls, not techies !!!
And also .... I typed yesterday on a tablet and everything flew to hell ... I will finish my thought today with a computer

But I somehow adhere to the fact that each unit must perform its function. Washer wash, dry - dry. I am a conservative.

I fully support the approach / attitude towards technology OlgaGera, but in order to own a good set of CM + SUSHMASH at the moment you need to pay from 250 tr.,

Of course, the ideal option is a separate full-size washer and heat pump dryer that won't waste drinking water for drying. But not everyone lives so well, alas.

and what she told us / shared Elena Tim costs just over 60 tons. p .... is called Feel the Difference !!!
Therefore, I believe all the answers from the technical forum, but I will look in the direction of Lyuska from Elena Almazovna.

and the previous SM did you have a tank made of carbon or stainless steel ???

Hospadya, well, you asked me a problem ... I barely found it in the tyrnet.
It is written - plastic.

Well, at the technical forum, girls like us live, not only techies.
In addition, all living people, which means they have the right to be unaware of any new products or the entire volume of goods on the market.
So I'm interested in the opinion of real users, if any.

my friend has a washer and dryer, already the second
and she says she doesn't understand how you can live without her
for her it is the same convenience as pmm

and I bought a regular one, because I always believed that I did not need drying
it's very warm at home, it's generally hot in the bathroom in winter, everything dries once or twice
now I regret it very much, now I would buy it with drying without hesitation

Now an extreme question (from the blonde) to you ... What material is the tank better / safer from stainless steel or from carbonate ???

Ludmila, carboran is reliable if you do not wash bras with bones or remove bones or wash them with ruts on the Internet there are rumors that you can pierce the tank with a bone. If you choose budget stainless steel and carbonran, then there will not be much difference. In Ardo, who rested in the Bose, I had a tank and a stainless steel drum, but what's the use pop to smithereens and galoshes intact the tank and the drum are intact and the crosses with bearings are negative.

[need]

Girls, I asked questions on the technical forum, they wrote to me:

I was already waiting for this frustration of yours, because I knew in advance how it would end.

And I'll tell you what - if you think that you need, take it, spitting on all opinions that are "not in line". Especially if not for the last "Mercedes" you buy.

Of course, the ideal option is a separate full-size washer and heat pump dryer that won't waste drinking water for drying. But not everyone lives so well, alas.

Girls, does anyone have a haer washer with a dryer. I liked it very much in the store, but I would like to hear the opinions of users

my friend has a washer and dryer, already the second, and she says that she does not understand how you can live without it

And how did the first person end her life? And how old are you?

And this is what I will tell you - if you think that you need it, take it, spitting on all opinions that are "not in line". Especially if not for the last "Mercedes" you buy.

God forbid, there is still enough for a Mercedes, but changing the CM every year is not hot. And I don't want to service the service. Hotzza, so that SM served me without problems and longer.
I'm all in disarray.
For me, it would be ideal to take an inset with a drying, but I did not find one with normal characteristics and a reasonable price.
There are with curtailed programs, with energy consumption V. I do not even dream of a collapsible tank.
The freestanding ones under the tabletop, of course, could also be shoved, but almost all of them have an inclined panel, so figs can pick it under the tabletop and squat to look out with a flashlight.
Here is Len (by the way, to me on "you"), do you know some decent model that would block at least part of the wishlist?
Timkina SM, it seems, is not bad and inexpensive in terms of parameters, but there is an ambush adjustment, since the panel is inclined.

By the way, Timchik, measure, pzhlsta, your beauty from the wall to the hatch ledge, that is, lope she needs living space from the wall to the door, if she wants to cover her from the front from immodest eyes?
And count up, if there is a tabletop above it for all this depth, it will be possible to communicate normally with the board there? Or will you have to squat with a flashlight to dance?
Got a job? Fill it fast! I am all waiting for

And what was the first to end life? And how old are you?

Olga, as far as I know, Art. m old has already become, the apartment was changed and the washer was changed

pysy, why do you need a collapsible tank?