Refrigerator selection

Somehow in this thread there was a conversation about the need to defrost a freezer with the No Frost function) ...

Today I accidentally caught my eye):

Do I need to defrost the No Frost freezer?
Why defrost a freezer if it is completely free of frost? This question is really true, but only half. The know frost function protects against the appearance of frost on the freezer, which is convenient, since during operation there is no need to defrost it for this purpose.
In models that do not have this function, with an increase in the layer of frost, performance decreases. The normal freezing process requires more time and energy. As a result, in order to create a certain climatic regime, the motor starts to work with a constant load, which can lead to its breakdown.
It must be defrosted often, at least once with a constant frequency of two to three months.
This does not mean that household appliances with know-frost function do not need to be defrosted from time to time. It is recommended to do this at least every six months, in order to carry out general wet cleaning. Therefore, how often to defrost the refrigerator in this case depends on the frequency of its carrying out.

[vatruska]

vatruska, with one compressor in some models, only the refrigerator can be turned off (vacation mode). This is how the freezer works.

I'm planning a Panasonic NR-B591 BR-C4, they also have a new model, but it won't fit in my dimensions-NR-BY602 XCRU.

Tatyana, how did you buy this refrigerator? I went to Madia Markt and felt it, I liked it, I will probably dwell on this too. It is embarrassing that there are few reviews about him and Panasonic refrigerators are not widespread, and so - the ideal.

Tell me please! Does anyone have a Panasonic NR-B591BR-C4 refrigerator. how are your impressions?

[Julia ***]

Julia ***, no, not yet bought. They disappeared in our stores. I found one, but it is stainless steel, and I need a beige one, I was terribly upset. I'll wait, they won't appear, I'll have to choose something else. The other day I looked at beige Samsung and Hayers. Samsung has some kind of flimsy plastic in the freezer, although my 28th model has been living on the loggia for a year already, everything is in order, and there are very few reviews on Hayers. I also watched the new Panas model, as it is not very much, I like 591 more.

I also looked at the new model, I don't like the drawer in the freezer. I think he's kind of flimsy. My husband is a fisherman, I imagined how many fish are in our Atlanta now, this box will not withstand and it is not convenient to use it.

Tatyana, how did you buy this refrigerator? I went to Madia Markt and felt it, I liked it, probably I will also dwell on this. It is embarrassing that there are few reviews about him and Panasonic refrigerators are not widespread, and so - the ideal.

Panasonic Pts are cool! It has been working for us for 10 years!

I have a Panasonic beige NR B651BR. I like everything in the refrigerator, except for the heating of the side walls, the hotter it is in the room. , the more often it heats up. Not a good option for a small room and hot climate. I have a dining room of almost 20 sqm.

Thank you girls for the answers, I will probably stop there.

Oh, how cool!
Everything is clear with the upper part, it is not difficult to make it to order from a couple of standard built-in refrigerators.
But how to make bottom freezers? They are, usually, behind a common door, and not separate drawers
Ir, where did you get the picture? Maybe there are details?

[Olga]

But how to make bottom freezers? They are, usually, behind a common door, and not separate drawers

Olga, these are the built-in refrigerators


it's called a french door

Here I am dense, and did not know!
Thank you, Tinochka, I went to study!

Ol, they are well indecently expensive

oh wow refrigerators! but to save and save for such!

[Irina]

Irina, yeah .. not for mere mortals

Atlanta is 15 years old, needs a replacement

The topic has completely calmed down, where to ask advice ...?

[Loremia]

Loremia, so here and ask .. you can just answer if you do not write anything about your requirements for the refrigerator

Yes, I got confused in the stamps, I already looked like Eldorads and technosils ... I liked the Turkish Veko in design and lack of smell, then Bosik nothing, and now in thought ... I read the last 50 pages of the topic
Tall, better than 2 meters, know frost (I'm tired with the atlas of the drip system) freshness zone for fruits (we have a small child), the color is not white

[Loremia]

Loremiawhat is the budget? what are the requirements for the refrigerator?

[Tina]

Tina, thanks for answering. I thought a maximum of 30 rubles, the currency was growing, no matter how 40 I had to take it in installments, yesterday I was so enticed

[Loremia]

Loremia, and take Atlant again? you do not want? I recently bought a built-in Atlant, I'm quite happy .. only too narrow in comparison with my previous ones

There is absolutely no Atlanta, the system of fastening the side compartments is annoying, the gaskets broke quickly, the refrigerant leaked out - called the master to the house. Would have taken it no matter what, in all models the fastening system has not changed - I don't want to

then AEG Electrolux Bosch .. I don’t know your prices, and the requirements for the unit .. what you need is what you don’t need, big small .. it’s hard to say something specific

The requirements have already been - height: 1, 90 and more. Color: silver or metallic or black. Know-frost, freezer below, energy saving class A, depth not less than 60, up to 40 thousand

[Loremia]

Loremia, it was you who added the requirements later in that message, I did not see them
I only find under your parameters
BEKO Indesit Candy LG Bosch and Atlant .. these are all refrigerators of the lower and middle price category .. personally, then I would have watched Candy and Bosch, but the choice is still yours, of course

[Loremia]

Loremia, go to the store and see which one you like and take. And be sure to smell it so that it doesn't smell like plastic. I went to the Media Market, chose and ordered on the Internet, it turned out cheaper.

Girls, thanks a lot! I will watch

[Loremia]

Loremia, go to ixbt, there you can get good advice.
As for the color .... Now there are so many high-quality enamels and self-adhesive films that this may be the very last requirement.

[Loremia]

Loremia, and LG - not considering? My sister bought from my husband last year in winter and is very happy. Just falls under all your requests. Like this 🔗 (only she has beige)

And the newer model is like this 🔗... My husband and I walked around him, walked, wanted to take, but then bought another a little more expensive.

[Tanyusha]

I consulted on the ixbt forum, looked at it live in the store. Bottom line: I ordered the LG GA-B489YEQZ Refrigerator, prices are on the rise, this week it has risen in price by 2000 rubles. Thanks again girls for the advice!
Tanyusha, afnsvjul, Olga VB, V-tina Thank you very much girls for the advice!

That's it, my throes of choice are over! : Yahoo: Yesterday we bought a Panasonic 591, today they should bring it. True, the color is stainless steel, but I wanted beige. : girl_sad: I suffered for a long time, yes, the old model, yes, the mechanics, but the volume won, now I hope that it will work fine. Thank you all for your help in choosing and advice.

[Tatiana Gnezdilova]

Tatiana Gnezdilova, congratulations on your purchase. Write how the side walls of the refrigerator behave, do they heat up or not? What is the temperature in the room where the refrigerator is.

[francevna]

francevna, thank you, let's hope that it will work flawlessly, for a long time I wanted it, chose it.They've already brought it in, installed it, I'll wash it today and turn it on tomorrow. As for the walls, I can already say that both side walls are warming up, I forced him to turn it on in the store, because I took it from the window and while the paper was being drawn up, it was working, the walls were heated, they were not quite hot-hot, but noticeably warm. The passport says that it can be installed in a dense one against the wall, and there should be space left from the top and sides. Top-30 cm, from the sides to 10. The seller warned that the first day he can work without interruption, until he picks up the temperature. Well, probably all refrigerators. It is standing in the kitchen, now it is not so hot, but the refrigerator has a class T (tropical up to 43), so it should withstand our heat normally.

Tatyana, I have a Panasonic beige NR B651BR.
If the temperature in the kitchen is above 25 degrees, then it often turns on, and it gets even hotter.
And so I like everything.
Let him be a good helper and serve for a long time.

Alla, I also wanted a beige one, but they disappeared from the stores, we are now selling the leftovers, and they only import new models, but they are smaller in volume than the old ones.

Tatyana, we have no beige ones on sale either, it suits me the color of the kitchen.

Girls, and I bought myself a Liebherr CBNPes 3976 refrigerator with a special icemaker a year ago. I was looking for (I poured water into a container and got cubes into freezers, a lot, a lot). I am very satisfied and the 3-liter balloon becomes if the shelf is folded (there is a special folding-very convenient) and beautiful and the door is covered with some means so that the fingers do not stay on it. In general, I love him very much and I hope he will serve me for a long time (until I get bored)

Well hello dear girls, specials. I quoted my message from 3 years ago, so that there was an understanding of what now came to cry and sob, my handsome man broke down on August 21 -2015, worked for almost 4 years and freon flowed into the foamed part. I loved him very much, and he was a scoundrel so let me down, and even in the summer everything was gone (food) and my parents took out all my brains - how was it so expensive and suddenly broke down and so every day (tryndets). Well, the refrigerator is okay - it is a piece of iron and sometimes breaks, but the "SERVICE" of the store itself - the refrigerator ru (I bought it in it) and the Liebherr's office is something not transferable. For all of Moscow, only 2 officers. service centers, and now in summer Moscow is empty, but they tell me that the master will come to me only on August 31, that is, in 10 days, thanks to other service arrived in 5 days, on August 28 I have an act of non-repairability in my hands. The store sends me an application form for the exchange of the refrigerator, I immediately gave him all the documents on the wedge (receipts, acts, etc.), wait within 7-10 days there will be an answer. Super, heat, I want to eat, you can't buy anything normal and here you have to wait so many more days. I call them myself and feed them every day, and in response - WAIT. After 7 days, they say that Liebherr offers an exchange for the same, like whether I agree or not, I write - I AGREE. On the trail. day, the store calls and says that there is NO refrigerator in the warehouse and when they will not know, and then take the money (72600 r), and not the refrigerator. And most importantly, that there is no refrigerator in their warehouse, I see myself on their website from the first day, that is, from August 28 on the store's website that there is no product and the old price is 125,000r. , and their department of claims had to look for this information for 7-8 days, the blind are sitting there or all eyes are already blurred on returns to work. And tell me why I need 72600 r now if they have this refrigerator ALREADY worth 125000 r. and this is the price of the old supply, what can I buy at this level for the cents they offer me? I called the Liebherr office and wrote them a letter, and they ... in response did not even bother to write an answer or call back, and when I was on the trail. the day she tried to call them, the phone no longer answered at all, the Liebherr works cool in our country. Now we had to send everything by mail officially, we will swear a lot and if we have to sue and have to do very bad advertising, they thought that for such a huge amount of money at that time we bought a worthy thing, but it turned out that we bought ourselves a problem in view of our Russian service. And most importantly, when I spoke (to the store) about a replacement refrigerator, they told me in 7 days we will talk about it, and then just take the money and that's it.Peace and quiet until now (the store and the dealership do not care about customers), soon it will be 1 month since we live without a refrigerator. It is very unpleasant to live without him)).

Now, in search of a new refrigerator, as with Liebher we will seem to sort it out for a long time - to sue, but there is no more strength to live without a refrigerator. I climbed all the shops, phoned and tortured all the sellers, all the refrigerators for me to take off, but I can't choose. I want it as I was, but so as not to break What I agree to refuse - from the ice maker (we loved ice very much, it is so convenient when there is a lot of it and it is always there and it fell into the freezer with such a sound, a balm on the heart). The freshness zone is obligatory and the zero chamber I also need it very much, and in general, return me my refrigerator only a new one: plach7: In general, I'm looking for a new love

[Svetlana201]

Svetlana201, all technique is a lottery. Although I didn’t want to be a hololytic liebcher, because I don’t like to buy what everyone praises and buys. One refrigerator was bought purely because of its color dark blue with black stripes, as he and her husband saw him, then it was Toshiba who simply fell in love with him, and the second one needed a simple one, so they went and smelled so that they did not smell like plastic and stopped at Siemens. Go to Gorbushka just walk around and see if you suddenly like something.

Tanyusha, thanks. I bought a liebher out of love for a big husband. My husband cannot stand to go to the top of the head, he does not like to go shopping, we have already passed all the large markets and have seen enough, but so far in thought.

Svetlana, I had a similar story with Liebherr, though not so expensive, but also in the summer, and also nerves for more than a month. As a result, the money was returned and we took the LG with the bottom freezer, it turned out to be a hundred times better, now we will not be overjoyed.

Nikusya, they offer me a refund of 72600r, but now such a refrigerator costs 125000r and more. If 125,000 rubles were returned to me, then I would think and take them and buy any other for such an amount, the choice would be great. After all, refrigerators have risen in price, the more the course has changed, why should I get a smaller amount now and buy a refrigerator dr. cheaper than mine? I already suffered mentally and financially because of them.

Nikusya, write pzhl model completely LG, and how much did you buy and when your Liebher and when it broke with you.

Svetlana, now I don't remember the Liebherr model, we had it small with an internal top freezer. The door fell off, that is, the metal rod just broke in half. And they found out with the help of expertise - he himself broke or we broke it on purpose. And in the door of the refrigerator we had eggs and something on trifles, that is, there were no weights there. Well recognized all the same marriage.
We bought LG GA-M409ULQA, something about 20 tons. We paid the difference 3t. This is last year. Now yes, refrigerators have become very expensive.
Well, in general, of course, you have a situation ... But it is not very profitable to sue them, you will spend more money on courts and help yourself nerves. By law, they are right, since they reimburse the cost at the time of sale, and how much it costs now, unfortunately, it no longer matters.

Nikusya, according to the law, they are obliged to me to exchange the refrigerator for the same one, if I want it (and I want or want money but others at today's price) and I am not afraid of the trial, they have already passed with the builders. It’s just that I won’t leave this question, they don’t want to solve it normally, it means to the court, and for them there are very large fines for such cases.

[Svetlana201]

Svetlana201, Samsung has a top model with all the bells and whistles, including an icemaker, but without a folding shelf (I'm not sure about the shelf, but from my recollections). See if it suits you. I don't remember the exact model, but the first numbers are 63. Maybe there are newer and more interesting models.

and for them there are very large fines for such cases.

So they won't deny you your rights, you have the right to change the refrigerator, but if there is no such model, change it to another.

Gata, thanks, I'll look again, maybe I didn't find anything like this for my size. 60