Kirks
aynat, if of course to choose between Hayer and Sharpe, I would choose Sharpe. But Haeir also has good quality, I looked at the reviews on the Mvideo website, the reviews are positive. We have a Hayer wine cabinet, our friends have a TV and a refrigerator. Everyone is happy. Of course, their price has now become enormous.
V-tina
Quote: shade
Together we buy ATLANT
not forgetting to check if there is a special. a button for defrosting the freezer and without stuffing full boxes into it, because they are made of very fragile plastic And of course, good refrigerators
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Latest ATLANT models in full mince

And at a price that is quite affordable for a big name, they don’t take money

Well I'm thinking in what vein
Atlant 25 pieces other \ named \ 50 pieces
Let the Atlas work for 5 years and another one, no less good with the name of 10 years \ figures from the ceiling \
So - buy another Atlant in 5 years and put the old one in the country
Kirks
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So - buy another Atlant in 5 years
So in 5 years it will cost not 25 but more.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
Well, yes, I understand that, but another named 75 pieces
still need to take into account 2 compressors

And even if you ask Atlanta users on our website about the terms of work
In terms of price and quality, it wins

I don’t promote - I don’t get money in terms of money, but what is it
Svetlana201
Anatoly, if the Atlanteans had more prettier drawers and shelves inside, then they probably would have bought them more, but they made the green one on the outside, very pretty and tall, everything is fine, but as soon as you open the door, you want to cry, well, is it really impossible to make the boxes different? After all, these two boxes are from the times of the USSR, but make them, like those of Samsung, LG and all other modern refrigerators, beautiful, comfortable boxes, etc. why are they spoiling everything for themselves. A green Atlas would be very suitable for me in color, but its insides are disgusting. It's a pity Haeira is not green, I will take beige. Atlanteans need to change the designer and we will be happy with them.
sazalexter
Regarding Haier, pure China, at work for 5 years there is a chill, the build quality is like Atlanta, the plastic is noticeably worse ... 🔗
Chinese company manufacturing household appliances. Created in 1984. Over the years, the company has significantly expanded its product range and today is the largest manufacturer of high-tech equipment, presenting 96 model lines and 15,000 product models: LCD TVs, plasma panels, DVD players, mobile phones, laptops, washing machines, dishwashers, refrigerators, microwave ovens, air conditioners, etc.
I personally am not ready to pay for such quality, the Electrolux of the Alexander assembly was enough ...
V-tina
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Anatoly, and it's not for nothing that I said about the button for defrosting .. not for an empty word. We only bought the Atlant building in the summer, and when I was going to defrost it the other day, I discovered that it can only be defrosted by disconnecting it from the outlet! And this is an inline! And the drawers, too, were crumbled in the freezer, and so did my mother, and my sister. Otherwise, excellent refrigerators
Svetlana201
Alexander, I looked at both Atlant and Hayer in stores, and not once, in my opinion, Hayer is both externally and internally better than Atlanta. Colored Hayer is also collected in Italy. My mother has Atlant (a great lover of Atlantis), and I can't open it without plugging my nose later, and this is a new refrigerator and boxes in the freezer are terrible, etc. Well, you can't compare Hayer and Atlant, well, a completely different level and not only in price, I don't need such an Atlant for free. That's when the designers work on it normal, then probably it will become a very good refrigerator.
afnsvjul
Quote: Svetlana201
in my opinion Hayer is both externally and internally better than Atlanta
I fully support you. Hayer is very well made. He has a real temperature control in the zero chamber (3 modes) by adjusting the temperature from -2 to +3, depending on the current tasks.
My Zone features:
- Quick Cool: to quickly cool drinks for newcomers.
- Defrost: for defrosting food in a natural and gradual way.
- Fruits and Vegetable: for optimal storage of fruits and vegetables.
- Chiller 0 ° C Fresh: for the correct storage of delicate foods such as meat and fish.

For the production of refrigerators, Haier uses the best industrial equipment from leading manufacturers Liebherr (Germany), Sanyo, Kawasaki, Panasonic (Japan), as well as industrial equipment from the USA. The "heart" of the refrigerator - the compressor - is supplied by the largest manufacturers Embraco and ACC, electronics and components are being developed jointly with AKO Gmbh corporation (Germany).

There is also a shelf for storing drinks that allows you to place five bottles with a total weight of up to 11 kg. In the absence of bottles, the shelf folds down and does not take up the useful volume of the refrigerating chamber. Another inner shelf folds into half, allowing tall items to be stored underneath. At the same time, the Multi Flow cooling system brings cold air flows to each level of the shelves, which helps to maintain an even temperature, prolonging the preservation of food freshness. A special drawer with moisture control is provided for storing vegetables and fruits, and an activated carbon filter on the back of the cabinet eliminates unpleasant odors from the refrigerator.
sazalexter
Quote: Svetlana201
Colored Hayer is also collected in Italy.
Alas this is a delusion, here is the information 🔗 there you will not find a single chill not from China.
It is unprofitable to transfer production from a cheap country to expensive Italy where Ariston-Indezhut rules the ball
Svetlana201
Alexander, there is NO ONE color (orange, red, beige ...) according to the given link, it is COLORED ones that are collected in Italy, and the rest in China. In fact, I think that factory China is sometimes much better than our pens, but I could be very wrong of course
sazalexter
Quote: afnsvjul
compressor - supplied by the largest manufacturers Embraco and АСС,
Advertising bullshit, compressors mainly China Highly CHK099EV, C-BHV140L4H, HQT9RSC and SIKELAN QD53YG, at best Brazil EMBRACO ECZ60CLP
sazalexter
Svetlana201, I do not know who misled you, but the logic of production suggests otherwise ... the color "titanium", as it were, also refers to non-standard "color" chills;)
mur_myau
Shivaki bought a two-door in early May, waited for order.

Report.
Low, 175 cm height, just right for me. I don't like tall refrigerators. Freezer on the left, refrigerator on the right. The handles are very long, so it's nice to open for both a child and an adult. The magnet on the door is pretty strong, you need to get used to it. The touch screen panel is intuitive, I didn't even read the instructions.
Discounted, at first I was suspicious that it cost 46 sput. The reason for the markdown - there are no egg trays! )))))
I bought these molds for 150r. in a rainbow smile.

Quiet, quiet, in comparison with the Soviet so generally silent. We are still renovating, there are no interior doors, and you can't hear it.
You can stuff an elephant into the main compartment.

Minuses. I didn’t know that it’s impossible to stuff food tightly in a vertical freezer, there are all sorts of grates for circulation, they cannot be closed, otherwise there will be a little ice instead of know frost. And I also had to buy additional containers for freezing. You can't put food in a heap as in a regular freezer.

There are still more pluses. And the cat appreciated, lying on top of the refrigerator, watching me write the report.
Anna1957
Quote: mur_myau
Shivaki two-door
I also look at this side-by-side because of the price. But China scares me. Probably, until you experience it on your own skin, you won't understand. And I want to, and inject ...
mur_myau
Anna1957,
That's why I was silent for so long. I tested how it would work.
And so we will wait and see. While it suits me.
Another thing I liked.A standard rectangular milk carton fits perfectly on the door shelf.
What is missing - shelves for drinks with corrugated bottles. But there are inserts on sale, I will definitely buy.
Anna1957
Quote: mur_myau
What is missing - shelves for drinks with corrugated bottles.
I can definitely do without it. Is it really collected in China? And then they make small Shivaki in Kaliningrad I don't even know: is it worse or better
mur_myau
Anna1957,
Mine is made under license in Taiwan (written in the passport). There are stickers on the back of the refrigerator, CN and some code next to it. This is China, but not mainland.
adelinalina
Good day to all. I didn't think that I would come here, because I was 100% sure that I had made my choice, And my husband had to somehow drive me into an electronics store, while my husband was watching TV, I went to admire my dream again, well, let me think, I will look at other models and their characteristics (power consumption, capacity, etc.).
And that's it, I'm in a stupor.
in general, the model I wanted, samsung, beautiful, white, with glass

Refrigerator selection
this refrigerator, almost the same height as the white one (2 cm higher),
but its energy class A +++ is 191 kW / year, that is, almost 2 times lower than the first, plus the volume:
277 liters refrigerator and
130L freezer.

Well, the price of the issue, white costs about 800 euros, and gray about 1100 euros.

And now the dilemma is to take a beautiful one, but eats less and more (after all, we do not take it for 1 year, and electricity more and more expensive every year), or take a beautiful one, but it is metal, and I did not want metal. Although it seems while I was in the store, studied, touched, it does not leave stains, but it was not washed there, what will happen after washing is not known. But metal and more in volume, which means it will fit most of all (especially the freezer pleases).
Of course, I won't buy this happiness soon, it's good if I manage to save up in a year (or in half a year, if we still don't go on vacation), but still I want to decide on my dream)
Anchic
Oksana, it is not a problem to wash the metal - with liquid for washing glasses (with ammonia, the main thing) and rub it dry with a dry cloth. Will shine like a mirror! I am so a water heater with a metal body
adelinalina
Anchic, there is not a shiny stainless steel, with a matte finish, but I was worn out with the hood, nothing takes it. The only method is to rub the special. means, polish, wash everything and wipe everything dry with paper napkins, then there is a chance that there will be no stains, it takes me an hour and a half for such a cleaning, it infuriates me. The mother-in-law also has a stainless steel refrigerator, she also says it's hard to clean.
francevna
Oksana, and looked in online stores? Maybe you will find it there.
Anchic
Oksana, and the same, but little white can you find?
adelinalina
francevnawhat exactly is acnol with ammonia?
francevna
adelinalina, Oksana, I did not write about ammonia.
But the appliances that are at home, gray metallic glossy and matte, require constant maintenance. Therefore, the freezer and chest are white, and the refrigerator is beige.
adelinalina
francevna, so I am also worried that I will get tired of cleaning, and I am far from a fan of putting things in order, so I think, unfortunately, there is no white model. There is white, but it is the same energy as white glass, then the meaning disappears and I will buy the one that I wanted initially.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
adelinalina, and you think there is less trouble with glass ?! It's only in the store and in the picture is beautiful, but in life, well, sooo marco (I have a friend). And yet, glass is a little more expensive than a regular door. Gray is Bosch 39 (36)? They are also under the glass.
Exocat
Quote: Svetlana201
Anatoly, if the Atlanteans had more prettier drawers and shelves inside, they probably would have bought them more, but they made the green one on the outside, very pretty and tall, everything is fine, but as soon as you open the door, you want to cry, well, can’t you make the boxes different? After all, these two boxes are from the times of the USSR, but make them, like those of Samsung, LG and all other modern refrigerators, beautiful, comfortable boxes, etc. why are they spoiling everything for themselves.A green Atlas would be very suitable for me in color, but its insides are disgusting. It's a pity Haeira is not green, I will take beige. Atlanteans need to change the designer and we will be happy with them. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...n=com_smf&topic=6149.1100
It's not just about designers, it's about pricing. You want Atlant to be as comfortable as Liebherr, and they cost the same as now. It doesn't work that way.
For example, I chose a bath. So here are two baths from the same manufacturer, of the same size and of the same material, but one is ordinary, and the second is designer. The price difference is 5 times ...
adelinalina
Quote: Tatiana Gnezdilova
Gray is Bosch 39 (36)? They are also under the glass.
these are both samsungs.

Quote: Tatiana Gnezdilova
Do you think there is less trouble with glass?
glass can definitely be zapshikat with acol and wipe it with a napkin, but with metal this will not work.
although my kenwood is also gray metal, it does not get dirty and easily wipes, if the same metal is on the refrigerator, then the problem is solved, you will have to look at the reviews
Gata
Quote: Krosh
And I am very happy with my Samsung !!!
Likewise - I love my Samsung
Crochet
Anya, and you have what ?!
Ljna
I have an atlant freezer. without working for a year, she broke down. under warranty the master changed the compressor.
the compressor of the firm, bad, quickly breaks down, as the master said. after repair, freezer, has been working for the 5th year
Gata
Quote: Krosh
Anya, what is yours ?!

Now I'll find it, like I wrote somewhere .. Here, I found it, I have Samsung RL 50 RRCSW I changed it urgently, but I'm happy with everything. She described an epic somewhere in this thread. I just thought that there is no folding shelf for Samsung, but now I think I should try to buy it.
Refrigerator selection

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Doxie
choosing a budget refrigerator (but not quite tiny) with no frost

They bought their own in the year 1919, therefore, both from manufacturers and from types of eyes run up.
Stopped at
Indesit DF 4160 W or Indesit DFE 4160 S (they seem to be identical)

Indesit IBF 181

Pozis RK FNF-172 W R

Pozis RK FNF-172 W GF

Indesit DF 5200 W

Hotpoint-Ariston HF 4180 W

Maybe anyone has experience with these models? Which company, in your opinion, is more reliable (I know that there are better companies, but their models with such parameters are not affordable now due to soaring prices, and a refrigerator is needed, since the old one is broken)
louisa
And if you choose between Atlanta and Liebherr, what would be your advice?
Anchic
Louise, if you choose between Maybach and Zhiguli, so that you advise I have Atlant and I generally like it. I don't like only one thing - there is no shutdown button at all (only pull it out of the socket when I clean the freezer), well, I would like to separately control the compressors for the refrigerator and freezer.
Doxie
louisa, well, we walked around, read.

Depends on which Liebcher model and which Atlanta model. And what are your requirements for the refrigerator - overall dimensions and dimensions of the freezer and refrigerating chamber, defrosting system, climate control, noise level, energy class.

And what amount you have.

Atlanta has a plus in that for relatively little money you can buy a refrigerator with two compressors - firstly, temperature changes in the freezer and the refrigerator will not affect each other, and secondly, if the refrigerator is drip / manual, it will be possible to defrost the freezer without de-energizing the entire appliance (but this feature must be specified for each model!). And be sure to check if there are service centers in your city where they work with Atlanta, otherwise problems may arise in case of repair.
I didn’t like them by their design and appearance - they give off something so "soviet" in a bad sense. But this is a matter of taste. As instruments, they are considered such workhorses.

Liebherr - depends on the model. Budget freezers have rather small freezers - if you plan to freeze a lot, 75 ml will definitely not be enough for you. Some budget cards have plastic, which requires a delicate attitude - that is, it is better without plates and magnets.

To be honest, the budget Liebcher did not impress me as a Maybach. Some have not very comfortable door shelves, a freezer upstairs, and the refrigerator itself is very understated - that is, you will often have to squat or bend over to take from the bottom shelf, while the lower freezer might store what you rarely get it out.

But those that are more expensive left a good impression. But Liebcher has more models of the A +, A ++ classes - that is, more economical in terms of energy consumption.
A. And more. In reviews to some drip Liebherrs, I met complaints that the walls of the refrigerator heat up slightly in places and reduce the rating. But in fact, this is a way to get rid of the formation of excess condensation around the seal.
louisa
Why am I considering these two models, because I need a narrow refrigerator, the volume is not important, I choose for my student daughter, she will have enough two shelves, I would like to be more budgetary, in the size of 55 cm, while I see only Atlant, Liebher, and I also came across Gorenie I understand that both Liebherr and Atlant are suitable for my low requests? And also, can you tell me, with a refrigerator width of 55 cm, what width can you make a niche? That is, what kind of gap can there be between the refrigerator wall and the furniture?
V-tina
Louise, look at the Atlant-insertion, they are narrow and inexpensive, minus them, as in many Atlantes - flimsy plastic in the freezer and cannot be turned off by a button. But they are quite narrow and can stand on their own, it is not necessary to build into a cabinet
louisa
V-tina, I also look at them, in principle, the price is normal, 25t. R. for a penny installation, you probably need to make the outlet so that it is convenient to disconnect and you can stop on it
Doxie
louisa, Shivaki are small, but I don't know how they are with built-in appliances

Yes, it seems to me that there will be little difference. But perhaps the daughter will like Liebherr more - they are nevertheless more elegant inside somehow. I would choose Liebherr myself

The dimensions of the gaps between the refrigerator should be seen in the instructions or check with the manufacturer. Most likely there will be at least 5 centimeters. And the same applies to the upper plane.
V-tina
Louise, I have an outlet in the next closet, no problem at all. there is also a jamb they have - in the kit for hanging the doors of spare parts only on one solid door (both on the refrigeration chamber and on the freezer), to whom it came to mind, I don't know in general, to make the doors open separately, we had to in the SC to buy a kit for the second door, the issue price is 20 cu. e.
V-tina
Quote: Doxie
The dimensions of the gaps between the refrigerator should be seen in the instructions or check with the manufacturer. Most likely there will be at least 5 centimeters. And the same applies to the upper plane.
I have Atlan in place of the old Stinol, in the closet, there is still five centimeters left, there is a distance for installation according to the instructions 560, the refrigerator itself is 540
louisa
Quote: Doxie
Most likely there will be at least 5 centimeters.
because of these 5 cm and all the fuss, the installation will allow them to be reduced ... although I also like Liebherr, Atlant, I agree, the refrigerators are not bad, but the design is Sovdepovshchina, at the Atlant house itself, the side shelves on the door have already fallen off, the doors in the freezer are also chipped
V-tina
Quote: louisa
the side shelves on the door have already fallen off, the doors in the freezer are also chipped
boxes in the freezer, yes, a weak point, but I load the side shelves there in three floors, and nothing ever broke
Liebcher's design is more beautiful of course, I don't like Atlant with fiery love, but the price difference is almost 4 times - for me it's a lot
here, you can compare 🔗
Doxie
Quote: V-tina
Liebcher's design is more beautiful of course, I don't like Atlant with fiery love, but the price difference is almost 4 times

Atlantes are very, very worthy for their price, I think.
V-tina
DoxieFor me, the most inconvenient thing was to get used to the fact that it was already a regular refrigerator, all the boards and other cake stands had to be changed to narrower ones for freezing.And so - it does not bother me at all, quiet, the shelves are easily removed and hung up, you can use the refrigerator without embedding in a niche and without hanging decorative doors, because the doors in it are made as in an ordinary refrigerator
louisa
now faced with a choice-Atalnt installation in width 56 cm price-25950, Liebherr not in-building dimension 56 cm (they can be placed close to the wall) price-22489
V-tina
Louise, such a low price, so if you like it, you have to take it

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