Refrigerator selection

I've only looked at the fridge so far, I've looked at it, maybe it's more expensive in stores

Is it true that refrigerators without defrosting consume much more energy? Should I take them at all?

[LovingMother]

LovingMother, depends on the manufacturer, on the model. Panasonic, Siemens, LG and others. you can even find class A ++ and A +++

A ++ can be found even in an acceptable price range - from 35,000 rubles (well, it is clear that this is already with prices jumped up)

But even among budget Indesites with no frost there is class A and A +

And vice versa, among drip / manual there are quite a few even class B.

So here it is better to choose the models you like and only then compare.

Well, I read this thing:
"It is almost impossible to catch a direct relationship between the letter that marks the refrigerator and the number of consumed kilowatt-hours. The energy consumption class is calculated using a rather complex formula. The result is influenced by the volume of the chambers, the temperature in each of them, and the use of various innovations. For example, a large refrigerator side by side Bosch KAN 58A40 with a volume of 507 liters consumes 522 kWh of electricity per year, while the Ariston MBA 2200 with a volume of 370 liters will "eat" 360 kWh. Both models belong to class A. "
It seems to me that this class is not a very reliable indicator.
PS: I like how our avatars harmonize))

[louisa]

louisa, there are also Veko refrigerators with a width of 54 cm. It seems that the reviews are good. I watched one live in the store, it seemed so neat and nice.)))

Tina, you are writing about flimsy plastic in Atlanta, but you don't have shelves and lids for these fridge drawers sold separately? I loved my Atlant (now Liebherr), everything that was broken or cracked from plastic was easily replaced, although we live in the suburbs. On the market in Moscow (the market in Mitino) there is an Atlant store, that's where they bought everything. And in Belarus it is impossible to find spare parts for Atlanta ?!

[Larissa]

Larissa, there are of course spare parts, in the SC you can buy everything without problems, there would be funds

[LovingMother]

LovingMother, exactly, there is a similarity)))

"It is almost impossible to catch a direct relationship between the letter that marks the refrigerator and the number of consumed kilowatt-hours. The energy consumption class is calculated using a rather complex formula. The result is influenced by the volume of the chambers, the temperature in each of them, and the use of various innovations. For example, a large refrigerator side by side Bosch KAN 58A40 with a volume of 507 liters consumes 522 kWh of electricity per year, while the Ariston MBA 2200 with a volume of 370 liters will "eat" 360 kWh. Both models belong to class A. "

This is also absolutely true!

But among refrigerators of approximately the same dimensions, you can navigate, thanks to the marking.

As a rule, people are looking for a model of a certain volume and already in this category they choose the least energy-consuming one.

What's more good - in addition to the letter marking, each model is given a description of how much it "eats" approximately, just the marking helps, if necessary, to weed out too outdated energy-consuming models among their own kind.

That is, those who are looking for models such as Bosch KAN 58A40 will not look for an analogue of the Ariston MBA 2200, which, although it eats less energy, will be too small in terms of parameters for those looking for refrigerators over 500 liters.
And among their own kind, Bosch KAN 58A40 (hypothetically) may be beneficial. While among the analogs of the Ariston MBA 2200, on the contrary, it may not be the most economical option in this regard.

I have had an Atlant refrigerator for 10 years and the plastic is opaque in the freezer. So everything is still intact. And the mother-in-law also has an Atlant refrigerator, she bought it 3-4 years ago.In the freezer, the plastic on the boxes is transparent and turned out to be more prickly - the door fell from the top shelf and a large piece broke off. I pasted it on temporarily, but I need to buy a new one. And here it is even tactilely different.

We have an Indesit refrigerator, it works well, in winter we set it to a minimum of frost, it does an excellent job, in summer there is a maximum of half an arrow, that is, it does not even work for us to its full extent. Well, the energy consumption class is low, economical. That everything is ok, no chips, no cracks, everything is strong. Only here the elastic bands on the doors broke straight with one line at the fold, it doesn't interfere too much, doesn't hang out, it's just somehow unpleasant. It does not affect the functionality either. the refrigerator closes well. But the rubber bands are apparently of poor quality.

[Qoalla]

Qoalla, and what is the sacred meaning to put the freezer to a minimum in winter? or is it in the fridge? Mustache I still don't understand You set the temperature in the chamber, not the operating time of the compressors ... and their operating time will depend on the temperature in the kitchen, and not on the season ...

-you have no Indesit refrigerator?
- no, it works fine!

[Qoalla]

Qoalla, and what is the sacred meaning to put the freezer to a minimum in winter? or is it in the fridge? Mustache I still don't understand You set the temperature in the chamber, not the operating time of the compressors ... and their operating time will depend on the temperature in the kitchen, and not on the season ...

Well, you all write correctly, just why in winter, when it is cool in my house and so, in the kitchen, too, leave the maximum, the refrigerator then freezes very much. And in summer, on the contrary, it is hot, we do not have an air conditioner yet, so we are increasing it, because there is much less frost, but more is needed. I generally wrote this to the fact that we do not set it to the maximum even in summer, the refrigerator can handle it.

[Qoalla]

Qoalla, well, what can I say ... I have a top three both in winter and in summer and that's all ... If in summer with the same settings it is not cold enough in the refrigerator, then in my opinion you need to change the rubber on the doors ...

Hello everyone!
Please tell me which brand of refrigerator to buy?
You need a small refrigerator.
Completely confused which refrigerator is now good?

Girls! Maybe someone knows what refrigerators with an adjustable freshness zone are now? Thank you in advance

I again have a choice. Which side-by-side do you prefer: Shivaki made in Belarus or LG made in China? Logic suggests option 1, but it is noisier (47 versus 41db - it doesn't tell me anything). The rest seems to be almost the same 🔗

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, Anna, choose by design. Shivaki generally only see Russia 🔗)

[Anna1957]

Anna1957, Anna, choose by design. Shivaki generally only see Russia 🔗)

Your link is really Russia. and even 10tyr cheaper. And in Yulmart - Belarus And more expensive. And what about the noise level - an extra 6 dB is critical?

[Anna]

Anna, I also looked at the side-by-side at one time. As a result, I bought 2 chambers (a refrigerator (without a freezer compartment) and a separate freezer in the same design and the same size) from the same company in the same design (ARDO Italy). Now it seems they are not. Outweighed the doors and got side-by-side. I figured that if something breaks, then the second will help out during the repair. And the dimensions: with a total width comparable to the side-by-side, the internal volume in the free-standing 2 units turned out to be larger. And you can always move - move one of the cabinets, if necessary. Now there is no Ardo, but there are similar other firms. And yet, in every district (almost in every) there are stores under the general brand "TECHNIKA WITH USENKOY". AVITO. They also trade in new products (including SIDE-BY-SIDE) with a guarantee as expected. You will find the addresses on the Internet, closer to you. Their equipment is cheaper from 5% to 30%, plus their own shares. Try it, take a look, just remember that all goods at favorable prices are bought from them in the morning and until 12 (probably resellers). But if you find and buy what you need, you can win in price. Good luck.

[Anna1957]

Anna1957,

The link you can believe is the largest supplier in the city

About the noise
In fact, the manufacturers are cunning. The declared noise level is very different from the subjective perception, you need to turn it on and listen. In what spectrum is the noise, is there gurgling of freon, high-frequency overtones.
LG has a linear inverter compressor 🔗 I don't know how it sounds. In theory, it should be quieter.

[Anna]

Anna, I also looked at the side-by-side at one time. As a result, I bought 2 chambers (a refrigerator (without a freezer compartment) and a separate freezer in the same design and the same size) from the same company in the same design (ARDO Italy). Now it seems they are not. Outweighed the doors and got side-by-side. I figured that if something breaks, then the second will help out during the repair. And the dimensions: with a total width comparable to the side-by-side, the internal volume in the free-standing 2 units turned out to be larger. And you can always move - move one of the cabinets, if necessary. Now there is no Ardo, but there are similar other firms. And yet, in every district (almost in every) there are stores under the general brand "TECHNIKA WITH USENKOY". They also trade in new products (including SIDE-BY-SIDE) with a guarantee as expected. You will find the addresses on the Internet, closer to you. Their equipment is cheaper from 5% to 30%, plus their own shares. Try it, take a look, just remember that all goods at favorable prices are bought from them in the morning and until 12 (probably resellers). But if you find and buy what you need, you can win in price. Good luck.

Thank you, I heard about such a combination. I just don't know how to type in a search engine.
Markdown technique is also interesting.

Added Monday 16 May 2016 07:40 PM

In what spectrum is the noise, is there gurgling of freon, high-frequency overtones.

This is finally a problem for me, I will hear everything only in the process of use, I will not quickly understand.

[Anna]

Anna, Here 🔗 choose a freezer to your liking, and, then, of the same company and of the same design and size in the refrigerators section (uncheck the freezer in the search engine and put a check in the refrigerator). Choose, buy, outweigh the door and that's it. But the choice is small now, the sanctions are probably. And I spied on this topic in Finland. They sell solid single-chambers, either a refrigerator or a freezer. I like it.

[Anna]

Anna, Here 🔗 choose a freezer to your liking, and, then, of the same company and of the same design and size in the refrigerators section (uncheck the freezer in the search engine and put a check in the refrigerator). Choose, buy, outweigh the door and that's it. But the choice is small now, the sanctions are probably. And I spied on this topic in Finland. They sell solid single-chambers, either a refrigerator or a freezer. I like it.

Yes, there really is no choice. Well, what to do - you will have to return to the original version, besides, the place is strictly planned for this option.

I bought a wide ATLANT (70cm). Let's see how it works.

[Omela]

Omela, our friend also just bought an Atlant, I really liked the mechanical control (very convenient), good plastic boxes in the freezer and the promise to keep the temperature in the freezer when turned off for 20 hours.

No, I have electronic control. But my task was to buy a wide one - the maximum needed was 80cm. Imported are simply unbearable for the price.

[Svetlana]

promise to keep the temperature in the freezer when turned off for 20 hours.

Svetlana, last year after the hurricane we had no electricity for two days (even more), I thought everything would deteriorate (they also promise 20 hours of maintaining the temperature), I also have Atlant, and so, everything survived - only berries rubbed with sugar, melted a little

[Tina]

Tina, but can you tell me which model you have a refrigerator? I am looking for my mother, I need it not very expensive and not very big (she lives alone), so I am looking. GIRLS HELP WITH THE CHOICE !!!

[alena40]

alena40, ATLANT XM 4307-000.In principle, it suits me, does not make noise, last year the freezer withstood a hurricane for more than two days without electricity. And also, which is important, without hanging facades looks like an ordinary refrigerator

[Tina]

Tina, thanks, I'll go see the characteristics ..

Good day! How important can energy efficiency class be in choosing a refrigerator? A significant difference between A and A ++?

Peace be with you bakers!

louisa--
Well, you that the difference is obvious as much as 2 pluses

Actually--

To "earn" class A, the tested refrigerator must have an energy consumption of no more than 42% of the standard value. Only a product that spends from 30% to 42% of the estimated standard can qualify for an “A plus” rating. And, finally, the highest class A ++ gets a refrigerator, whose energy consumption is not more than 30% of the standard.

only who sets these standards - in the sense of this is not GOST

[shade]

shade, in general, as I understand it, do not bother about this? Also, can anyone say something about Shivaki refrigerators?

[louisa]

louisa, Louise, there was once a TV show on TV about technology. What energy class is worth buying. Optimal class A. The difference in price with class A ++ is large, for the service life it is unlikely to justify the money spent. The main thing is not to buy class B and C, this technique is also available.

[louisa]

louisaShivaki pure china

[francevna]

francevna, I realized thanks))

louisa, shivaki pure china

Yes? And it is written by the manufacturer-Russia I choose a budget model, probably I'll stop at Atlanta, I wanted to buy Liebherr more expensive, but something hurts a lot of negative reviews

I wanted to buy more expensive Liebherr, but something hurts a lot of negative reviews

And what exactly is said negatively about Liebcher?
I really like him.
Negative (in my opinion) only one-cost!

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, often break down, judging by the reviews, most often at the 5th, 6th year of life, they begin to break down and sometimes cannot even be repaired (

[alba et atra]

alba et atra, often break down, judging by the reviews, most often at the 5th, 6th year of life, they begin to break down and sometimes cannot even be repaired (

Louise, what exactly is breaking?

Mine is 20 years old.
Darling, quiet, it costs itself, it generates cold.
It's probably like in statistics.
The law of large numbers.
About Sony TVs, they also write that they often break down (in any case, they wrote before). But in fact, there are simply more of them on hand than all the others, so negative statistics are obtained.
Choose what you like and like, as I understand Liebherr, so buy it.
And then how lucky.
Everything breaks down.

[Elena]

Louise, what exactly is breaking?

most often the back wall "swells" Elena, oh, I don’t know how to be, then you want a cheaper one, then you want better, how to decide

oh, I don’t know how to be, then I want a cheaper one, then I want better, how to decide

Determine your priorities and go to the store for the refrigerator!
It is always very important for me to like it.
Maybe you need to go to a large store and wander among the refrigerators, open the doors, count the shelves, drawers and what else, and the decision will come faster?

[Elena]

Elena, yes, the problem is that I need a narrow refrigerator, up to 55 mm wide, I choose in online stores, because I have not seen such models in ordinary models, so I choose between Atlanta and Liebherr, and I also need a refrigerator in the apartment of the student's daughter , I would like to be more budgetary, that's why I'm suffering

[louisa]

louisa, can you watch the atlant live? An acquaintance of mine just bought an atlant from a new line, very pleasant in appearance and content inside. Stands in the kitchen and cannot be heard. The best part is manual control of the temperature in the chambers (a conventional rotary switch) and drawers with a freezer that are pulled out through the ledge at the bottom of the drawer - no removable panels in the front (I already appreciated this ... only I bought such a socket for 3 thousand).

[vatruska]

vatruska, the fact of the matter is that no, in our "village" there are no narrow refrigerators at all, I rummage around online stores

An acquaintance of mine just bought an atlant from a new line, very pleasant in appearance and content inside. Stands in the kitchen and cannot be heard.

The parents also have it in the kitchen, but on the sunny side. There are curtains, of course, but the temperature in summer is very high. A year and a half has passed since the purchase. For three months it rumbles like a tractor. Especially with full freezers. The humidity inside the refrigerator has also increased significantly. The master said that the motor was almost a kirdyk.

[Yelichka]

Yelichka, I have a strong suspicion that under such operating conditions any refrigerator will "rumble". Heat, then he has at least where to divert? Well, at least stick a reflective film on it, you can't remove it from the sun ... And rearrange it somewhere in the corridor? (it’s worth it for friends ...)

most often the back wall "swells" Elena, oh, I don’t even know how to be, then you want cheaper, then you want better, how to decide

In the fall, my back wall swelled after 5.5 years of use. We arrived from the workshop. drew up an act, with him to the store. This model is no longer produced - it was replaced with a similar one, brought free of charge, took the old one. The warranty is valid for 10 years. When exchanging, I said that I would not pay extra, look for a similar one. Everything was replaced very quickly and without controversy.

The master said that the motor is almost a kirdyk.

the motor changes by one or two

I also repaired 15 years ago the freezer (Biryusa Soviet assembly) - replacing the motor with a modern version + replacing the broken (when moving) coil with refrigerant (some kind of already new refrigerant), the result is excellent
the same with the refrigerator - also Soviet Biryusa

they work like cute, the master said - repair Soviet refrigerators-freezers to the last = you can buy components now, and repairs are much cheaper than buying a new one modern unit
in those times when I had little money, it was a good way out

Soviet Biryusa

These Biryusa refrigerators, it seems to me, are generally indestructible. My mother was one, probably the same age as me. She decided to buy a modern refrigerator, although the old one worked, and then she cried that the old Biryusa froze better.