olga0101
Most likely I will order this Siemens) he knows frost. I don’t know if it’s good or not, now I have such an indesit, like all the rules. they say that know frost smells inside the refrigerator. something like this.
I don't notice. decided to change in connection with the move. now we have an indesite 60cm wide, we decided to buy a 2 meter and 70cm wide.
Countryman
Quote: Buyer14

It is critical for me that the refrigeration unit is on the compressor "PANASONIC"/ "MATSUSHITA", R600a.

A tough statement.
And what is it about these compressors that "critical"?
igorechek
Quote: olga0101

Most likely I will order this Siemens) he knows frost. I don’t know if it’s good or not, now I have such an indesit, like all the rules. they say that know frost smells inside the refrigerator. something like this.
That's exactly what they say. Know frost does not affect the smell in any way. And, if the layout is successful, it does not eat up the volume of the compartment.
olga0101
igorechek, but how to understand whether the line-up is successful? if the volume is 389l with dimensions (WxDxH): 70x65x200 cm
Buyer14
Quote: Countryman

Quote: Buyer14
It is critically important for me that the refrigeration unit is on the "PANASONIC" / "MATSUSHITA" compressor, R600a.
[...]
And what is it about these compressors that is “critical”?

I answer your question.
Panasonic compressors are manufactured in Malaysia (and not in some china!)

You can see for yourself.
Refrigerator selection
Anastasia
Quote: Anastasia

And today I finished the difficult choice of the refrigerator and now I have two big white friends in the kitchen. Oba-Liebcher-one K 4270 -185 cm-completely consists of a refrigerator compartment, and the second-freezer G 2713 for 7 boxes. I am happier than ever! We installed, connected, from the first impressions, I liked the very quiet operation of both units and the quick exit to the set temperatures.
Well, that's how they "sat down"
Now I can select a separate box for ice cream and an ice cream maker - this is how one purchase pulls another!

After 6 years, I can only repeat my own information! The refrigerator and freezer are still doing their job properly. Already in the kitchen everything has changed, the renovation has passed, and the two white assistants are working tirelessly, no complaints. I regret that I took the freezer without the know-frost - the only negative, but this is the disadvantage of my choice, not the freezer. So I am with both hands for Liebherr.
igorechek
Quote: olga0101

igorechek, but how to understand whether the line-up is successful? if the specified volume is 389l with dimensions (WxDxH): 70x65x200 cm
Your best bet is to look inside the fridge-freezer. In the freezer, the fan is made "zapadnitso" - built into the case, then it will not reduce the volume in any way. "Bulbins" with a refrigerator compartment fan are also placed in different ways and even, protruding into the chamber, it will not interfere with the laying of products.
igorechek
Quote: Buyer14
I answer your question.
Panasonic compressors are manufactured in Malaysia (not some china!)
Horseradish radish is not sweeter!
The first time I hear that Malaysia is an industrially and scientifically developed country. The same "assembly shop" for other countries as China. And half of the population of Malaysia are Chinese and Indians. What qualifications of workers in this country are you talking about?
vatruska
Refrigerator selection
My relatives are thinking of buying such a miracle. Refrigerator Side by Side Sharp SJF 96 SPSL.
True, they have not yet decided between this, the side-b-side classic or just a separate refrigerator and freezer.
Countryman
Quote: Buyer14

[...]
And what is it about these compressors that is “critical”?

I answer your question.
Panasonic compressors are manufactured in Malaysia (and not in some china!)
You can see for yourself.

Very informative.
Malaysia ... well, of course, Malaysia !!! Cool!!! Just like ISO-9001.
But I don’t remember that for the steering gears of the “products” of our “factory”, the hydraulic drives of which remain operational at temperature drops of up to 300 degrees, the design bureau ordered something in Malaysia.
Mar_k
Good day everyone! Tell me, can anyone have information about Refrigerators Side-by-Side Hotpoint-Ariston E4D AABC Refrigerators? How are they in terms of noise, service and quality? I now have Atlant-2004, at that time one of the most expensive of this brand. Now everything is fine with it, it works without problems, but the needs have increased and it is not enough for us, and there is no place to put an additional one.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Good morning! So the moment has come for me to choose and buy a new refrigerator. The old Indesit began to play pranks, well, he is already 20 years old, while he works, but he stopped arranging the freezer (it works, then it doesn't, and the fruit will soon freeze for the winter), they decided not to repair, but to buy a new one. Since there are plans to bring the refrigerator to the balcony, there were some restrictions on the choice, namely, the height and climate class. I chose the Samsung 28 model, they brought it, it's worth resting for now, a little later I'll turn it on, I'll listen, I'll touch the side walls, otherwise I've read everyone, now I'm nervous about how he will behave. While the first impressions of the purchase are elegant blond, visually well assembled, there is no smell inside, but there are also disadvantages - these are large handles, the drawers in the freezer are not large, the shelves in the refrigeration compartment are practically not adjustable in height. I only need it for preparations for the winter - freeze fruits, vegetables, grated jam with sugar, all this will fit, but a 3-liter jar with sauerkraut will no longer fit in height. So far, these are the impressions of the purchase.
Mar_k
Tatiana GnezdilovaAnd what kind of climate class does the refrigerator have to put on the balcony? And what is the temperature on the balcony in winter?
vatruska
Here's what I found

"In order for the refrigerator or freezer to work flawlessly and to preserve your food stocks of high quality, when choosing it, pay attention to such a parameter as the climate class, which indicates the temperature conditions of the environment determined by the manufacturer for the operation of this model. temperature conditions, warranty repair may be denied.

Before choosing a refrigerator or freezer, it is worth deciding on the required climate class.

There are 4 main climatic classes:
N - normal. In this case, the room temperature can vary from +16 to + 32 ° C.
SN - subnormal. Temperature range from +10 to + 32 ° С.
ST - subtropical, for tropical climates with high relative humidity. Temperature range from +18 to + 38 ° С.
T - tropical, for dry tropical climates. Temperature range from +18 to + 43 ° С.
Traditionally, refrigerators with climatic classes N and SN are most widely represented on the Russian market. Due to the frequent increase in summer temperatures in our latitudes up to + 35 ° C and higher, models with a dual climatic class began to gain more and more popularity. They are designed to operate over a wider temperature range.
N-ST is a climate class designed for normal operation of the device at temperatures from +16 to + 38 ° C.
N-T - climatic class from +16 to + 43 ° C.
SN-ST - climatic class from +10 to + 38 ° C.
SN-T is the most versatile class. The equipment should work without problems in the temperature range from +10 to + 43 ° C. "

So I apologize wildly, but the refrigerator is on the balcony ... Well, only if you have it heated ... In the best case, the temperature on the balcony should not drop below 10 degrees. Although, again, I repeat, I don't know how a particular balcony is finished (I can still imagine a loggia, but a balcony ..)
sazalexter
vatruskaIn reality, Electrolux with two compressors and electronic temperature control, operates at a room temperature of + 4..6 * C, the mechanics had a "roof", the refrigerator simply did not turn on.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
Mar_k,Vatruska I already wrote about classes, Samsung has it just from + 10 to + 43. We live in the Stavropol Territory, in winter temperatures below -15 are extremely rare, and even then not for long, well, a week at most, in summer, yes, it's hot. The balcony was insulated and the heating battery was removed from the room on purpose, so that it would be above 10 heat in any case. Here, many people have refrigerators on their insulated balconies, normal. Yes, it seems I did not put it right, here they call any type of balconies - both remote and built-in, so in your opinion we have a loggia, sorry for the confusion.
marisabelka
People, help, just a cry from the heart! A large refrigerator is needed, I liked the samsung RSA1, LG GC B207 AND BEKO 120W. I do not know what to choose, please advise something
gala10
marisabelka, I have a Samsung Combi RL59GYBSW1, I chose it using the tips in this thread. Works since early October 2013. So far - no complaints!
Sonadora
marisabelka, in Eldorado now there is a good discount on large Siemens and AEG refrigerators. This I mean that for the same money you can consider a higher class unit.
marisabelka
I am now suspicious of simnns, after the ten flew in the dishwasher three months later, the master has been waiting for two weeks already, and the class is as important as the volume for 7 people, and everything depends on money, and AEG side-by-side has not seen
Ulitk @
My agony of choice is over. A two-meter blond German came to us)
Liebherr CBN 3956-21
I'm not really overjoyed. Works quietly, holds a lot. Beautiful)))
marisabelka
Congratulations, we also took only LG GC B207GEQW side-by-side, while it works without problems, let's hope everything will be fine
Crochet
Friends, and the refrigerator Samsung Food Showcase RH60H90203L (605 l.) Have you discussed it yet?

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An interesting model with a double door ...

vatruska
And what is the second door behind?
lega
The description of the refrigerator says that it is for those who often use the refrigerator. So that the temperature regime on the shelves of the first door is not violated. Probably relevant in hot climates ...
Rick
Unclear. All the same, both doors will have to be opened. Or am I not catching up with something
marisabelka
Well, like you looked, came up with what you need, quickly took
Lika_n
this is a refrigerator for men :))) .. they will open forever and are considering think for two hours, what would take :)))
and so we look ... we fix it on the memory card .. opens the second door and take it :))))
Mar_k
Quote: Lika_n

this is a refrigerator for men :))) .. they will open forever and are considering think for two hours, what could I take :)))
and so we look ... we fix it on the memory card .. opens the second door and take it :))))

That's for sure !!!! That would be such a refrigerator for my Sim! That the husband, that the eldest daughter will come up, open the door open and look and look .... And then they will close it without taking anything, and after half an hour on a new one, well, they will take 1 yogurt or sausage, and before that, how many times you need to look into it !! !!
Crochet
Quote: Lika_n
this is a refrigerator for men :))) .. they will open it forever and consider thinking for two hours, what would they take :)))

My daughter is like this ... she opens the door and stands, meditates, until I bark I'll swear ... oh, oh, oh, just ...

That is why I was interested in the model with a double door ...
marisabelka
Good day everyone, please tell me if you can put a dishwasher next to the refrigerator
yulia_s
They are standing next to me.
anakhoret
Greetings! Please share your opinion on the Hotpoint-Ariston BDR 190AA refrigerator. Very little information ...
anakhoret
bought, I can answer questions. Refrigerator chest of drawers.
Sindi
Good day!
Good people, tell me pzhl! Tomorrow we are going to buy a refrigerator, our Indesit has been working for 12 years, I'm tired of endless defrosting, washing and a specific smell, I can't get rid of it in any way.
My husband and I have been looking at the fridge for several days on websites, there is a lot of porridge in my head, my husband says go to your Bread Maker, ask the girls around
I dream of self-defrosting, but the No Frost system is scolded in the comments that dries food .. And I would like more freezing chambers, in the summer we freeze a lot of berries and vegetables .. The kitchen is large, you can put a lump too ..
Budget up to 30 thousand .. tell your family what to take ...
Sonadora
I don't know, I really like the Noufrost system.The previous Sharpe plowed for 17 years without any complaints, now he has it with his mother-in-law, and we bought ourselves a bigger refrigerator and again with Noufrost (so that there is no smell in the new refrigerator there is a filter, coal, it seems). In order to keep within the budget, you can look for high-end models with a discount, plus add a discount on the promotion for the delivery of old household appliances. And then the most important thing is not to succumb to the seller's tricks about an additional store "guarantee" and a service for installing a refrigerator (they tried to impose this on us in Eldorado).
vatruska
Cindy, if the kitchen is big, can you buy a freezer separately, especially if there are more freezes?
Sindi
Sonador, thanks for the advice. Svetlana, you still need a refrigerator, a separate freezer, maybe later we will take it, but already compact. While all the thoughts about the refrigerator
Mar_k
I have an Entente, two-chamber, has been plowing for 10 years !!! There are no complaints about plastic or glass, everything is in excellent condition. The freezer has 2 metal mesh drawers and a shelf. At that time, it was one of the most expensive of this brand. It is convenient to wash, you can take turns the refrigerator and the freezer, they will not turn off the entire refrigerator.
Tanyusha
My friend Atlant bought it 2 years ago, it works so loudly, for the first time I even shuddered from this sound.
Sindi
Atlantes are almost ahead in the ratings, they write the assembly to take only Belarus. While I'm leaning towards Samsung, most likely ... but let's see both Atlant and Lg ...
Sonadora
I won't say about Samsung, but in Skis, in noufrost, the ventilator stands on a sliding bearing, almost like in a computer, over time it stops spinning. There is a rolling bearing in the old Sharpe, that's it! It works silently and after opening the door it rotates by inertia for another minute. In AEG, I don't know how the noufrost works, but there is no fan in the freezer, or at least not visible.
sazalexter
Sindi, LG stinks of plastic. See Electrolux for example 🔗 , Hungarian assembly. Atlant will be simpler, for the same money.
Do not chase noufrost, you still need to wash and defrost at least once a year.
igorechek
Quote: Sindi
I dream of self-defrosting, but the No Frost system is scolded in the comments
So it depends on which model. The system itself has nothing to do with it. I'm not campaigning, I have Liebherr with know frost. It is very convenient, definitely a necessary thing. After a refrigerator without this system, heaven and earth. About some "complaints" about other models.
Works for me silently. It does not take up space in the camera, because the fan is built into the case itself. How can she dry food if it is wrapped in film? I never noticed. The complainants have them all piled up (fish, meat, vegetables ...)?
igorechek
Quote: sazalexter
you still need to wash and defrost at least once a year.
And what is the need for this? For 6 years, no one has been poisoned ...
Crochet
Quote: igorechek
For 6 years, no one has been poisoned ...

I have for 2 with a little ponytail years, too, everyone is in good health ...ugh three times ...
Sindi
Happy ..... but I was tortured with defrosting and washing, so I scold myself why I hadn’t bought it before .. our old man works and okay.
Alexander, thanks for the advice, let's take a look.
Tanyusha
Sindi, go to the store and see the refrigerators with your own eyes, and at the same time smell the smell of plastic or not. When choosing the last refrigerator, I did so, and then I ordered it in the online store, because it is cheaper there.
anakhoret
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