Vinochek
Quote: $ vetLana
sure about side-by-side?
this is my dream! there is a separate large freezer) plus I cook fresh every day and 1-2 times. I watched Daewoo live - I have enough volume.
Verina Natalia
Vinochek, Liebcher not considering? Which is made in Germany? How many years have I been overjoyed. By the way, it is not necessary to put it door-to-door. I just don't have room for that, so the refrigerator itself is on one side of the door, and the freezer sleeper is on the other side. It is possible and generally to spread to different places.
Vinochek
Verina Natalia, yes, by and large, I don't need a freezer. But I have a dream - side-by-side !!!! I dug in the shops and realized that it was necessary to order on an Internet unequivocally. Today they offered a hol-k in the store with a 30% discount for a scratch (decent), but it is an infection just from the side that will be visible!
Olga VB
Vinochek, Zhenechka, now somehow side-by-side is slowly disappearing into history, and they really use a combination refrigerator + freezer of the same type. Standing next to them, they just look like side-by-side, only there is more space in them and it is more convenient to use, and this combination turns out to be cheaper, and these are, after all, 2 circuits, 2 motors. Think hard again!
And the "extra" freezer can be attached.
Good luck!
Irgata
Olga VB, Olga,

and freezers are rarely superfluous, you just have to go to the topic Freezer selection
Vinochek
thank you girls, I'll think about it, but a dream! and I have a freezer for 500 liters. ))) This year I realized that I had gone too far with the frosts - they did not eat (((.
Azzalea
Quote: Verina Natalya
Vinochek, Liebherr not considering? Which is made in Germany? How many years have I been overjoyed.
ppcs. We also have a Liebher, about 8 years old he is probably very happy, mmm
JuliAnna81
Girls, please advise a refrigerator.
We need a 2nd refrigerator - purely for cakes.
The budget is no more than 20tr.
Or can you tell me what parameters are better for choosing ..
I am still hesitating with the freezer / refrigerator size ratio. There is where the freezer is smaller, and the refrigerator is larger, and there is somewhere in half approximately. It seems that for the cakes it would be nice to have a larger refrigerator itself, so that the shelves could be removed for a large cake. But the freezer in the first refrigerator is already full of frozen fruits, and the whole summer is yet to come ..
Help with advice pliiizz
Tanyusha
JuliAnna81so can buy a refrigerator without a freezer. Atlanta has these.
JuliAnna81
Quote: Tanyusha

JuliAnna81so can buy a refrigerator without a freezer. Atlanta has these.
I am considering this for the future, but now I need it with a freezer
Sneg6
Girls choose a refrigerator, like Liebherr cn4815. There is one with a freshness zone, is this zone necessary if you have vacuum cans? Less space is left in the refrigerator and there are fewer shelves on the door. Now I also have Liebherr, but not a noufrost. The freezer has been freezing lately, you have to defrost it more often, he is 10 years old. What I like, what is very quiet, I do not hear him at all.
Chardonnay
People, maybe who knows, where are Atlantes collected now? How are they with the quality? The master scared me that the new refrigerators now work little - about 5 years at most.
$ vetLana
Sneg6, freshness zone for fruits, vegetables - one box, the second - meat, etc. Huge for me! plus, especially for vegetables. I store everything that can fit: potatoes, carrots, apples. I highly recommend it.




I have no know Frost. I freeze it twice a year.
Sneg6
$ vetLana, Thank you! I don’t understand the meaning of the "freshness zone", because everything is still in bags or containers. Or should it be stored there without everything?
$ vetLana
Sneg6, I tear the bags with vegetables (potatoes, carrots, onions) so that there is no condensation. Apples - in bulk. Cabbage - no package.




It is unrealistically long to be stored.After ZIL, in which everything was rotting.
In my Liebcher, the drawers slide out on telescopic guides.
dog gray
Sneg6Without going deeply, the freshness zone has a temperature higher than in the freezer, but lower than in the refrigerator. On average - about 0 degrees. + -, which allows the products to be, as it were, at the freezing point. They do not freeze, they stay fresh longer. It would be better, in my opinion, to have two such zones, so that the commodity neighborhood would be observed. In one store raw - meat, fish. Keep the other for ready-made - cheese, pies. This is a great option.
Vegetables are also stored in a similar box on top. The temperature is normal there. At 0 degrees and below, the water in the fruit will tear them apart from the inside.
$ vetLana
I have a lower vegetable drawer in my withers, and the upper one for meat, cheese, sour cream.
dog gray
For me - the opposite. Freshness zone below. Samsung. It's the same at work now. There are Electrolux. I say two drawers with a freshness zone are needed.




Meat (fish) should not be stored with ready-made products.




The fruit and vegetable drawer is not a fresh zone.
$ vetLana
You can also adjust the humidity in the lower drawer.
In Liebcher, there are two boxes in the zone, cat. called Biofresh.
dog gray
Can you take a closer look? My interest is not idle - I am going to change mine soon. He is already 8 years old. Want more perfect, but not wide. 60 cm.
$ vetLana
dog gray, Galya, to whom is the question?
dog gray
To you!




I am looking with two zones of freshness.




Height - under 2 meters.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

Well, one compressor Atlanta is around 15 sput for 5 years, three a year - let it be

Two compressor rooms up to 25 sput, and No Frost a little over a quarter
V-tina
Quote: Chardonnay
Where are Atlantes collected now? How are they with the quality? The master scared me that the new refrigerators now work little - about 5 years at most.
in the same place as always - at the Atlant plant, how long they work, how lucky they are, as well as with all the equipment. Mom's freezer and refrigerator have been working for 7 years already, my sister has 5, I have a build-in, less, but no problems, and I don't see any problems with a three-year warranty
Anchic
My Atlanta is already 10 years old. There are no complaints either.
Tatiana Gnezdilova
My Atlanta with 2 motors is 16 years old, works fine, quiet. The only breakage is the handle broke off, because it sucks well, especially the freezer. But Samsung recently broke down, he's only 3 years old, it's sad. I will repair it. So how lucky with the technique, the lottery.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
In my Atlanta, for all his work experience, two breakdowns - a broken lower glass shelf, and a broken lower balcony - well, this is more likely not for the refrigerator, but for assholes
$ vetLana
dog gray, Galya, if you are interested in Liebherr, then go to them on the official. site, enter the parameters and get the result. I think my height is 2.05))), premium class.
They have all the functions, cat. are painted in their halls. I even found a suitable option for a summer residence.
dog gray
$ vetLana, there is no freshness zone.
🔗
You said that you have 2 boxes. I want beige color. You can red.




Probably I'll take Boshik
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

We present to you the TOP-10 popular companies. According to experts, the best models are indicated in brackets.

1 Samsung (RB33J3200SA);
2 LG (GA-B 409 SMQA);
3 Atlant (XM-4008, XM-4208, XM-6025);
4 Liebherr (CU 3515, CBNef 4815);
5 Indesit (SB-167, SB-185);
6 Bosch (KGV 39 VW 13 R);
7 Sharp (SJ-B 233 ZR-SL, Sharp SJ-XP 59 PGBK);
8 Beko (CS 338020 X);
9 POZIS (RK FNF-172);
10 Saratov (451)
dog gray
I have a Samsung, which suits me. But he is already a bit old. He is about 8 years old. I would like a similar, but more beautiful outwardly. I will not go to the lack of functions, without which I can no longer imagine the refrigerator. But I still dream of the beautiful.




I love kitchen appliances enough, I change them often. But I always approach the issue scrupulously. I choose carefully between very good and excellent. I never take premium equipment. Maybe after a while I will replace the oven with a similar, but more stylish one.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!
What do you mean by--functions that I can't imagine a refrigerator without
dog gray
Fresh zone for long-term preservation; know frost, so as not to bother with defrosting.
Chardonnay
My Atlant has also been plowing for 12 years, now it's just starting to junk. We changed the engine, refilled it. They said that he should work for another three years. But I think that I will take the same one to replace him. It suits me completely. All sorts of bells and whistles such as noufrost and zones of freshness do not interest me in any way.The only thing is reliability, they say that the new ones work much less now than the old assembly. Or until you buy it, you don't know?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

the dog is gray--

Let me ask you the air supply to the freshness zone comes from a separate air duct on the back panel, and the box itself has its own seal

OlgaGera
Quote: the dog is gray
But he is already a bit old. About 8 years old
Oh, and then my GE is good for great-grandfathers, 25 already ... and RosenLev is already 50, and works ... what to change I don't even know

dog gray
Quote: shade
Let me ask you the air supply to the freshness zone comes from a separate duct on the back panel, and the box itself has its own seal
That's right, but there is no seal. Just a hinged door on top.
Quote: OlgaGera
Oh, and my GE is good for great-grandfathers then, 25 already ... and RosenLev is already 50, and works ... what to change I don't even know
So I don't know what to change for. I want a big and beautiful ...love. Joke. I want a beautiful refrigerator!
Sonadora
Sharp noufrost has been plowing for 22 years without a single breakdown (Japanese assembly and compressor). In 2014, it was replaced with a larger unit - AEG: noufrost, a huge vegetable box, a freshness zone, all shelves are made of tempered glass, drawers smoothly, without backlash and bounce, easily slide along the guides.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

the dog is gray--
Do not tell me the brand of your unit
dog gray
Long search - similar to the one you gave as an example.




🔗 here it looks like.
Anna73
I'll put in my five cents ...
the most favorite - Sharp four-door. Accommodates everything! the freezer is large, the access to the refrigerator compartment is wonderful, since 2 doors swing open on both sides. I have 2 of them, the first one has been working for 9 years, and no complaints. I bought the same one at the dacha, all frozen mushrooms fit :))
dog gray
Quote: Anna73
the most favorite - Sharp four-door. Accommodates everything!
She dreamed, of course, about something like that. But will not fit into my 8-meter kitchenette. We'll have to limit ourselves to small.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

The "freshness zone" is a separate compartment in the refrigerating chamber, in which high humidity and low temperature are formed, relative to the temperature in the refrigerating chamber, by about 15 - 20%. Manufacturers themselves note this temperature at about 3 ° C. Naturally, this temperature may not be the most suitable for storing meat or fish for about 3-4 days. This temperature is good for storing cheeses, herbs, berries and fruits, but not for storing meat, poultry or fish.

"Zero compartment" is usually a separate compartment that is completely isolated from the refrigerator and freezer compartments and has its own door. We can say that, by definition, there cannot be a zero chamber in a two-chamber refrigerator, since this is the third chamber with its own operating mode. It is very good to store perishable food in the zero chamber, since 0 - 0.75 degrees is the most effective temperature at which food does not freeze, but remains fresh.

The "zero zone" is still the same "freshness zone", but the temperature in this compartment approaches zero. In some models of certain manufacturers it is possible to adjust the temperatures in this container, and in general, when the manufacturer speaks of the zero zone, this mainly means the rapid cooling mode in the refrigerator compartment, at which the temperature in the compartment is 2 - 3 degrees, and in the freshness zone »0 - 1 degree.

That's the whole difference

And when there is no regulation of humidity and temperature, it's just a storage box for vegetables.

Let's be on our toes - the door was opened, the cold was lost, but it was preserved in the closed box
You can put a couple of thermometers in the refrigerator and in a drawer for vegetables and compare - here's a 3 degrees difference

Marketing move no more
$ vetLana
shade, Your right to think so. I have been using it for many years and I know how convenient it is.
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

So I'm really against it - use it for health

I just wanted to clarify that not everything that is called the freshness zone is this as such.

And so that people would take this into account when choosing a unit and not pay extra money
Sneg6
Oh, what a discussion unfolded))) Something I did not receive messages. Thank you all for the advice, I will think)))
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

and still such a trick

the advantages of No Frost are often recorded as lower current consumption and the presence of a vacation function
Well, as if in my two engine unit the same is not a problem - on vacation or at the dacha I put the freeze on one, well, in winter I lower it to the 3rd position, that's the savings
dog gray
I left the thermometer there overnight. In the morning the temperature is 0 degrees. There is also a separate entrance. In addition, it is located at the very bottom. And cold air, as taught, is heavier than warm air.
We took a course on equipment for EPP.

I really like modern kitchen appliances. And the appearance is not.
M @ rtochka
I'll write here, it's so easy to share)
Refrigerator Liebherr, worked for almost 7 years, has stopped today. The master said to change the motor. 18 thousand ... And the guarantee will be for six months in total.
In general, they ordered Atlant). Time will tell whether they are right or wrong.
When I was choosing Liebherr, by the way, the production of Austria, it seemed to me that it was almost forever! And it looks like ... moreover, one consultant said that he rarely hears about Liebherr breakdowns, and the second is the usual service life for equipment, 6-10 years. So that's it))
Belka13
dog gray, Galya, my mother has such a refrigerator in the kitchen with an area of ​​7.5 square meters. m. And nothing! We got used to it. In fact, it is very comfortable in every way.

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