shade
Peace be with you bakers!

At my dacha, right up until recently, the ZIS worked right now, of course, I can't say what year, but about 1960

And he was thrown out \ well, moved to the barn \ only because my daughter bought a new one and melted the old one to the dacha
Creamy
I'll add my own three kopecks. I have one remark that no one ever takes into account when choosing a refrigerator. Nowadays, convenience stores have become so ****** (insert your definition) that you will inevitably become involved in the production of homemade cutlets, meatballs, dumplings and dumplings. And how to freeze such a large amount if I make 500 dumplings at a time? I bought 4 aluminum "American" trays. Everything freezes instantly, thanks to the unique thermal capacity characteristics of aluminum. But I can't make a metal rack-shelf for my 4 mega-convenient baking sheets, because 6 mm (!) Of the freezer width is not enough (!), Although I took 2 mm thick perforated metal for the rack. You have to put any metal pieces in the corners on one baking sheet with dumplings (for height and as cold bridges), on top there is another baking sheet, also in the corners for lifting, and so a pyramid of 4 baking sheets. But in order to take out the lower baking sheet with already frozen dumplings, you have to remove the entire pyramid from 4 baking sheets from the freezer! Oh, what a shame! Now if I go to buy a new refrigerator, I will definitely measure parrots baking sheets.
Olga VB
Creamy, Alevtina, you're handy! Didn't she come up with anything?
And if you straighten the side walls of the trays a little? Aluminum is soft
Olga **
Please tell me, someone can say something about VEKO multi-door refrigerators (that is, the side-by-side 4-door option, in fact, I do not allow the site to insert a picture).
We looked at such a model, I really like everything except the price, of course, but I'm ready to spend, I need to buy a good refrigerator to like it, but somehow scared, I don't know anything about this manufacturer. The reviews are decent online.
francevna
Olga **, go to your mail, I sent you a letter.
Olga **
Quote: francevna

Olga **, go to your mail, I sent you a letter.

Alla, thanks! I saw and answered.
alena40
Samopal, Oleg, is it possible to link the np group "markdown technique"? It's just that there are several of them in VK ...
velli
I have an Indesit Graffiti refrigerator in the freezer, the front panels-handles for which the drawers are pulled out, one after another, cracked and broke. It became problematic to take out the boxes of groceries. Refrigerators ku is already 8-9 years old. Is it possible to buy these panels or boxes in general in the store?
vatruska
valentine, climb on the internet - there are private offers, and so for my Westfrost I bought such a panel in 🔗 prices of course ... but order processing is very fast.
velli
vatruska, Svetochka thank you very much for your help! I will definitely use your links!
Bubuka
Good evening! Girls, I really need reviews about the Haer refrigerator, I originally planned to take a wide LG refrigerator, but the consultants highly recommended Haer .. the purchase is expensive, you won't buy such large household appliances every year ... Refrigerator with a bottom freezer Wide Haier C3FE744CMJRU, please respond , owners of this brand! I have 2 weeks to return
Olga VB
I do not really trust the advice of sellers: they are, more often than not, people dependent and interested.
Consider also whether there is a warranty workshop corresponding to your refrigerator in your city, as well as the availability and speed of delivery of spare parts of your brand.
In any case, before buying an expensive durable item, it is advisable to find out everything that is on the market on this topic and find out the opinion of real users (and not the responses of "supposedly buyers" on store sites). Also in the workshops they can tell what breaks more often.

Good luck!
Exocat
Quote: Olga **

Please tell me, someone can say something about VEKO multi-door refrigerators (that is, the side-by-side 4-door option, in fact, I do not allow the site to insert a picture).
We looked at such a model, I really like everything except the price, of course, but I'm ready to spend, I need to buy a good refrigerator to like it, but somehow scared, I don't know anything about this manufacturer. The reviews are decent online.
A good refrigerator is Liebherr, Bosch and Siemens, but certainly not BEKO.
Samopal
Bubuka, At one time we bought a wide Siemens refrigerator. Similar in size to the Haier C3FE744CMJRU. In the process of use, it turned out that a large freezer, this means a reduced refrigerator. There was not enough space for both perishable products and preparations. Over time, we bought an ordinary high refrigerator WITHOUT a freezer. They began to store blanks in it. We regretted not having bought a second refrigerator earlier. This big freezer also has a reverse side of the coin. You put something in it, then another, and again on top. And the fact that below has already forgotten where. In the top, middle or bottom shelf. We have to search through all the shelves. My suggestion is to buy an ordinary high refrigerator (180-190 cm) for this price, and try to pick up the same company (though not necessary), a high freezer. It only remains to re-hang the doors as side-by-side. The functionality will increase significantly, the availability of the freezer also. And at the price of 2 items will cost less than one. Good luck with your choice.
Irgata
Quote: Creamy
I bought 4 aluminum "American" trays.
are they without sides or what? with sides, convenient for freezing, the sizes of baking sheets are different, you can choose the size of your freezer
Bubuka
Olga VB, , SamopalThank you for responding so quickly!
During this time, we managed to find out that Haer is a Liebherr subsidiary, there are workshops in the city, a 12-year engine warranty. Time for testing is 2 weeks from the date of receipt of the goods. Let's see how it works
$ vetLana
Quote: Bubuka
Haer is a Liebherr subsidiary
Wikipedia:
Haier was founded as Qingdao Refrigerator Co. on December 26, 1984. With the opening of China to the world market, foreign corporations began to look for Chinese partners. One of these corporations was the German Liebherr Group (one of the leading manufacturers of premium refrigerators). Liebherr formed a joint venture with Qingdao Refrigeration Company to offer technology and equipment to its Chinese partner.
Svetta
Quote: Exocat

A good refrigerator is Liebherr, Bosch and Siemens, but certainly not BEKO.
These brands are only good for the original assembly. Liebherr is also harvested in Slovenia and Bulgaria, the quality is terrible despite the price. So much for Liebherr.
And Beko is a very worthy refrigerator, don't be so categorical.
$ vetLana
I have an inexpensive Bulgarian Liebherr, the build quality is very good
Exocat
Quote: svetta

These brands are only good for the original assembly. Liebherr is also harvested in Slovenia and Bulgaria, the quality is terrible despite the price. So much for Liebherr.
And Beko is a very worthy refrigerator, don't be so categorical.
I disagree.
Build quality can only be considered after paying attention to patented storage and cooling methodologies. I had in use (of course, recently, not 20-30 years) Atlant, Bosch, Electrolux and Liebherr. So I won't even exchange a Liebherr, even a Bulgarian assembly, for Bosch. The storage quality of food is completely different. Now I have ten-year-old Elecrolux and Liebherr at home. This is heaven and earth. Liebherr also bought another apartment this year, a friend bought Bosch. We compared, my friend regrets that she saved a little.


Svetta
$ vetLana, well, lucky.It's just that they are repaired much more often compared to the originals, read the forums.
Exocat
Quote: $ vetLana

I have an inexpensive Bulgarian Liebherr, the build quality is good
I studied these different assemblies very closely. The build quality of the Bulgarian is good. I saw the difference only in the quality of plastic in German and Bulgarian. And also really cheap models are assembled in Bulgaria, in which they save on plastic, guides, external design, and the mechanics and electronics are the same.



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Quote: svetta

$ vetLana, well, lucky. It's just that they are repaired much more often compared to the originals, read the forums.
You might think that other brands are not being renovated.
You need to look at the bounce rate, not the forum posts. There is no guarantee that anti-advertising stories are not being made up there.
I, too, when I started choosing a new refrigerator at the beginning of the year, was horrified by the amount of negativity in the network against Liebcher. I asked a repairman friend. He said, forget about these messages, this is a war of manufacturers, choose what suits you best. The bounce rate is about the same for everyone. Those firms that exceed the critical failure limit simply go bust.
$ vetLana
Quote: Exocat
And also really cheap models are assembled in Bulgaria, in which they save on plastic, guides, external design, and the mechanics and electronics are the same.
I needed a model with a mechanical switch, because a refrigerator for the country. My model has a very necessary function: work at temperatures below + 16 degrees. Of course, everything is much more modest than that of premium refrigerators.

I would like to say to those who choose a refrigerator: choose one with a zone of zero freshness. Different manufacturers call it differently. Liebherr has BioFresh.


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For me, in Liebcher, the sounds are a little strained, the cat. they publish
Svetta
Quote: $ vetLana


For me, in Liebcher, the sounds are a little strained, the cat. they publish
I have a Liebherr freezer, I have not heard it for 2 years, although I sit right next to it in the kitchen. I can't even imagine what sounds the refrigerator can make.
Exocat
Quote: $ vetLana
For me, in Liebcher, the sounds are a little strained, the cat. they publish
I have two Liebherr refrigerators. They don't make any sounds at all.
$ vetLana
Quote: svetta
I have never heard
Quote: Exocat
They don't make any sounds at all.
Lucky you, but I have "musical". In Liebherr Bulgarian, the instructions say that the sounds, the cat. publishes a hol-k - this is normal. ... I still love and appreciate them.
Olima
Quote: Bubuka
Good evening! Girls, sooooo need feedback on the Haer refrigerator,

I have a Haer refrigerator, though I don’t remember the model, but now I’m not at home to look. He is already 8 years old. After 3 years of work, in the summer he began to freeze in the refrigerator, although the temperature was set to +5. The craftsmen in our city did not know how to repair it, one in general vacuumed it in front of us and left, saying that it was dust on the pipes that prevented him from working.
Then I'm on the site Fridge. ru found a master in Moscow, phoned him and he told by phone where and what to look in it, they found, according to his instructions, a sensor that was warmed up with a hairdryer and for 5 years now it has been working normally.
By the way, we bought it in Foxtrot, it was brought to our city in two copies, and the person who bought the second refrigerator also had the same problem.
I really like this refrigerator for the location and size of the chambers, and I bought it, at that time, because of the narrow tray in the freezer for dumplings and cutlets.
Aunt Besya
Guys, no one has such a refrigerator: Mitsubishi Electric MR-CR 46 G-PWH-R, how is it used? Reviews on the Market are only positive.
Refrigerator selection
Refrigerator selection
I made an order, but haven't paid yet, it's just that he is practically the only one who suits me in terms of the size of the niche, there is really Hitachi R-SG 37 BPU INX, but it is 30 thousand more expensive
Tanyusha
I want to buy a Hotpoint-Ariston HF 4180 M refrigerator at my dacha, but something stops me.Maybe someone has a refrigerator from this company, I would like to hear feedback.
afnsvjul
Bubuka Elya I have a Hayer refrigerator, but the model is a little different, mine is C2FE636. When I was considering options for buying, I read a bunch of forums and climbed the entire Internet. I was also very afraid to take a Chinese refrigerator. But I really liked it externally. Excellent quality of plastic and glasses, nothing hangs anywhere, everything is very high quality and strong. And, most importantly, absolutely no plastic smell. The products are stored just fine, and the zero chamber is something, the greens are in it and do not turn yellow for a week. And one more advantage, it has protection against voltage surges, which is important, since most modern refrigerators with an electronic control system stop working during a voltage surge, and to start it, you need to call a wizard.
Sens
Quote: Aunt Besya


Refrigerator selection
gives an impression of great convenience!
Aunt Besya
Well Duc I bought it!
Tanyusha
Aunt Besya, with the purchase of you. Let it work fine and not break.
And I'm looking for it now. I need to buy a refrigerator for my country house. I don't want to buy an expensive one, because we won't live there permanently, but we need a beige refrigerator.
Sens
Aunt Besya, we are waiting for feedback!
Tonika
Quote: Aunt Besya
Well Duc I bought it!
Congratulations on your purchase! And How? Share your impressions. I liked it too.
Aunt Besya
Well, what do you guys tell me about that refrigerator?
Outwardly pretty, my color is white mother-of-pearl, but it still looks not white, but milky.
Very quiet, you can hardly hear it in the kitchen, well, except that at the moment of switching on (it periodically turns off). Even the operation of the ice maker cannot be heard, because the ice falls on the soundproof mat.
It turned out to be smaller in capacity than my former Stinol, but quite enough. There is a lot of space on the door, all sorts of shelves with partitions, cells for 15 eggs. A lot of things get up there.
One shelf is a transformer, it can first be pushed halfway horizontally towards the wall, in such a way that it becomes twice as narrow, or you can even move and rotate so that it stands vertically close to the back wall. Then you can put something very high on the shelf under it.
I actively use this when making cakes.

At the very bottom of the refrigerating chamber, a pull-out container for the entire width and depth, where the temperature is minus 2, measured. It is assumed that for chilled

Mechanical control, on the back wall, if the door is open for a long time, it starts to swear

There are such things at the back, which we first took for the handles for transportation and sang praises to the manufacturer, how caring he is, and then it turned out that this was for fixing to the wall in case of an earthquake
The middle chamber keeps the temperature 5-7 degrees. Spacious, consists of two compartments - the main one and for small items. Well, there are greens, fruits, tomatoes. I also keep medicines there that need a refrigerator. Slides out and slides in smoothly and also swears when open for a long time

The freezer is small for me personally !! If not for the huge chest on the balcony, then somehow I would not be comfortable. The ice maker still eats up the space .. The cubes are quite even, not glued! There are also two compartments - the upper one is smaller in depth, the lower one is larger. The upper one is made of transparent plastic, divided in two widths, the left side is a compartment for ice and storage of a scoop.
For at least two weeks I swore at this freezer and cursed the Japanese, Japan and the Mitsubishi concern
When I washed it and removed the scotch tape, I pulled out the shelf, then inserted it and was in the holy confidence that this is how it is removed! That is, to get to the lower compartment, you need to pull out and temporarily attach this upper box with the contents somewhere!
And in no way in my brain did it fit HOW such advanced Japanese people could come up with such engineering crap?!? Well kaaaak ?? It’s not convenient to eerie ... And in the instructions not a word, on the contrary, in the service section this is exactly how it is drawn - the box is pulled out !!
And how long it would have lasted is unknown, until my husband, who does not assume anything, and did not even think about this topic, decided to get something from below, just with a finger raaaz !!! and moved the top shelf inward !! In those seconds I experienced a SHOCK, because I was waiting for the fall and failure of this shelf somewhere in the bowels of the refrigerator ..
But it turned out that it moves along the runners and there is even a handle for convenience, which I also had not seen point-blank until now!
Until that day, a disease called technical criticism was firmly entrenched in my precious, because all the equipment in the house is mastered exclusively by me, and I also use it, and my dear one is only friends with the cuckoo, and even then because she talks and gives instructions like " turn the handle "
But then he just rose in my eyes to sky-high heights !! He was praised, kissed and since then we have love and consent with the refrigerator!
FSE!
Sens
Aunt Besya, without pictures it is difficult to imagine what you mean?
Irgata

Aunt Besya, Elena

, my sister-in-law bought one - happy, too, with my husband like elephants
Aunt Besya
Irina, before I would have seen this video, I would not have suffered with a freezer device
Love.
Tanyusha, perhaps already irrelevant, but I will write about Ariston. We have a two-meter tall one with a camera below, it has been working for more than ten years. The first four years he made such sounds, you might think the war had started, he fired in bursts, woke up at night. The service said it was noisy for a couple of months, and it was noisy for several years. The sealing gum quickly went out of order, had to be changed, after that it was necessary to control the closing of the door. In general, we decided to use it for long-term storage of food, so that the doors slam less often and we bought Samsung for the kitchen, we have been happy for two days now, it has been working inaudibly. Perhaps we just had no luck with Ariston.
Tanyusha
Love, thanks for the tip, this is very important to me.
Anastasiay
Dear experts)
Help. You need a portable / travel refrigerator for storing and transporting medicines on long journeys.
That is, the dimensions should be small, but at the same time it should work from the outlet, if necessary.
Does that even happen?
Vlad_Ru
Quote: Anastasiay
Help. You need a portable / travel refrigerator for storing and transporting medicines on long journeys.
That is, the dimensions should be small, but at the same time it should work from the outlet, if necessary.
Does that even happen?
Look towards car refrigerators.
Anastasiay
Quote: Vlad_Ru
Look towards car refrigerators.

Thank you!
I thought about it, but I need a refrigerator that works from a regular outlet, not a cigarette lighter.
Vlad_Ru
Quote: Anastasiay
I thought about it, but I need a refrigerator that works from a regular outlet, not a cigarette lighter.
Many car refrigerators (almost all) come with a 220 volt adapter
Kalyusya
Quote: Anastasiay
but I need a refrigerator that works from a regular outlet, not a cigarette lighter.

Here is an overview of all sorts of different -

Or on Ali you can find, the first request issued this
Refrigerator selection


Anastasiay
Quote: Kalyusya
Here is an overview of all sorts of different - 🔗

Or on Ali you can find, the first request issued this

Thank you very helpful review. At least I understood what it looks like. And about Ali .. Late I realized myself. Fly away in a week.
Vinochek
Girls, just a little bit more and my dream will come true - a new kitchen and a side-by-side refrigerator with it. But I haven't decided on the latter yet - which brand to choose? I used to know that I want Daewoo or Samsung, but now many others have appeared: SHIVAKI, Ginzzu, HANSA and DEXP. Who has or knows any reviews?
shade
Peace be with you bakers!

And they are all made in one factory in China
$ vetLana
Vinocheksure about side-by-side? In terms of volume, functionality? Didn't consider the option refrigerator + freezer?

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