Pasta machine Philips HR2355 / 09

[Irina]

Irina, like a crumb of dough, ie, sticky lumps, or like a crumb? It should be crumb, not collected in the dough at first glance. I always take 2 tablespoons of flour (from a baby elephant) 2 eggs and a little water. Look at the measuring glass, it should be slightly below the top edge. It is better to underfill than overflow.

I bought a display case. Maybe something is missing? But it was assembled. Here is a gray shaft, an inner white square piece, a gray top with screws, and the nozzles themselves. Is it correct or what?

5 parts with a nozzle?

No. I have one shaft.



And how to quickly insert pictures. And then I only through the radical well, but this is long and tedious

I have one shaft.

Irina what kind of car did you buy, big or small?

The machine is big. I can't insert pictures




Finally got in. Here you can see on the back of the nozzle a piece of tightly adhered dough that does not come out through any nozzle

Irina. everything is fine with you, don't panic. All details are in place.
Something seems to me a bit dry mixture you came out.
Did you stir the egg with water, or did you add everything separately?

I've already started drinking five mixtures! The first is with an egg, the rest is a cup of flour and half a cup of water. I tried all four nozzles. The liquid is exactly at the mark, then a little more, then, according to our advice, I tried to reduce it three times. The result is zero. A dense lump of some kind of nasty stuck to the back of the nozzle



Soon the husband should drive up with durum

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsen, your dough just dried up in the holes of the nozzle, so nothing squeezes. You need to clean the nozzle.

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsen, your dough just dried up in the holes of the nozzle, so nothing squeezes. You need to clean the nozzle.

I think so too .

five mixtures swelled! P

Ordinary flour, it behaves differently. Gluten develops quickly.

with durum

This is the best option.

If this is a display sample, just in case, check the original measuring cups or not, with display cases, it may be accidentally lost and replaced with a similar one, then the recipe will not be accurate. Yesterday I found out that the glass for flour is full of holes and water flows from it. A glass with a handle and a perforated bottom: 4 small holes and a handle on the side is for flour. For water with an egg, the glass is higher with a spout, the letter A is on the wall of the glass on one side and a drop is drawn below + an egg is drawn, below 160 - two cups, even below 80 - 1 cup, ml
On the other hand, the letter B and below is a scale from 60ml to 160ml. Photos can be found on the internet. My model is HR 2332/12.
On the first day, I also did not have the flour I needed, but I really wanted to try how it worked, I poured the MacFoot into the air and an egg with water and chose a pasta nozzle with a hole. A little extra water was mixed badly, the dough came out badly, or rather fell on the rotating screw. I pressed the stop, opened the lid, carefully pulled it out, rolled the pieces in flour and pinched it with my hands directly into the car, closed the lid, turned the snout to + and pressed the start button. Everything began to cling and crawl out like macaros. Everything crawled out without a trace. Second time very successful with 50% whole grain and 50% macfa. And very successful and tasty with 50% Durul and 50% macfa. Maybe you could put a photo here in the assembled form and then with joint efforts you would find a mistake.



Oh, now then you need photos of your cups for relatives or not. It is imperative that all parts are very dry.

My attachments were all clean, so they are from the store. Plain flour, Danish.The cups are exactly complete. Plus I have a scale and I checked it on the scale. I did not understand what moment, what does it mean to hit the rotating screw? Maybe I'm falling asleep in the wrong way?

Maybe the holes of the nozzle did not have time to dry out and clings to this place, then clean and dry.

I washed everything, put it to dry, I'm waiting for durum

Well, the machine first kneads for a while, and then throws the rotating parts onto the screw, which feeds and pushes the contents of the crumb dough into the nozzle. At the beginning, add flour, close the lid, twirl the flour a little (as if to loosen) and only then the egg with water.

But in general it is strange, they do not even try to start to crawl out, I open, on the back of the nozzle there is a dense lump that cannot be pushed into the holes by any force. I tried more water, then there was a thieving lump behind, which is also not pushed into the holes for any price.
I read the recipe ten times. One (ONE) measuring glass of flour and half (HALF) measuring glass of water. Measuring glasses exactly as in the picture in the instructions

Well, the machine first kneads for a while, and then throws the rotating parts onto the screw, which feeds and pushes the contents of the crumb dough into the nozzle.

Here it is not clear to me. I look through the window, the crumb is spinning for three minutes, then it stops and starts spinning slowly and that's it. I did not catch any casting anywhere

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsen,
Irin, the most interesting thing is that the instructions say 1 measuring glass of flour (200g), but in fact about 170-180g fits into it, I now measure flour with scales, and liquid with a glass

[Irlarsen]

IrlarsenIrina, do you have a machine without built-in scales?

Durum arrived. Not a fig gets out! The nozzles are clean! I don’t know, take it back to the store? I bought it at half price. Pity
What else to do then?
Once again I am writing in detail. I pour a glass of flour, as shown, that is, I completely fill it along the edges, removing the excess flour from above with a knife. I pour it. I wait about 20 seconds and quietly pour in 95 million water. What's wrong? Dry, clean nozzle

Just in case, the screw is long, which you need to turn until it stops, the assembly may be incorrectly installed before work, and you need the exact name as the machine is called with numbers. Carefully assemble everything in order according to the instructions. Everything will definitely work out.

I pour it. I wait about 20 seconds and quietly pour in 95 million water. What's wrong? Dry, clean nozzle

And why wait 20 seconds? I use more water on solid grain flour. The mass is neither dry nor wet. Like shortcrust pastry, but slightly wetter.
Try again with a little more water, 120ml for example, but gradually add. If it doesn't work out again, give it up.

Just in case, the screw is long, which you need to turn until it stops, the assembly may be incorrectly installed before work, and you need the exact name as the machine is called with numbers. Carefully assemble everything in order according to the instructions. Everything will definitely work out.

Yes, Irina has a big Elephant. The principle of operation of the Big Elephants is the same regardless of the model. Models differ in built-in scales and number of attachments.
Irina, what do you press on as soon as you start the car, to start or to a plus?

I'll try again. It's a pity for Durul, only a kilogram was brought. Can you try to do something with the mixture?

Can you try to do something with the mixture?

No need to mix, try it all the same with pure durum. Durum takes more water than is written in the instructions ..
Well, that you have such a deficit?
We buy such flour in German ibey.

You don't need to throw it away, just take this mixture, put it in a bread maker, add a little water, turn on the dumpling dough program, rested for 30 minutes, then you can roll out or manually roll noodles, dumplings, ravioli, etc. You can add a little water in the planetary mixer the same way and make a great dough. If you have a strong blender, then you can knead the same thing in it.

It's hot here, just like you. Therefore, no one wants to just go to the store again.I added water to the first duruv mixture, by eye. Probably a lot, but little by little the spaghetti began to crawl out. I press for 3 minutes with my hand and shove it and got out 10 centimeters like this while I'm ugly. Crawled spaghetins stuck together.
I want to try again. Durum pour a full mug, and how much water 120?



I eat the first portion. I was surprised that it took a long time to cook, I thought that 5-7 minutes would be enough. The diet seems to be approved. I think it might be the heat? The flour dried up and all the measurements flew to hell?

I have a small machine, but the recipes are probably the same: for 1 cup of flour without top you need 80 ml of liquid, there is 1 cup drawn on side A - 80 ml. Well, that means the machine is working, it is definitely not necessary to hand it over, in the evening maybe someone after work will come here for help. The main task is to find out why?

I press for 3 minutes with my hand and stuff it and got out 10 centimeters

I didn't understand anything at all. Why three minutes? They poured flour and immediately the start button, and not the + button (3 minutes which) The + button, this button of additional time, as it were, if you do not have all the mass in 10 minutes, and it does not all push through, there remains a decent piece and you again you run 3 minutes .. it then completely passes.
Again, I don’t understand how to push, it’s necessary to stop the car, the car does not work with the lid open ..

Hurrah! Happened! Boil for a little longer, drain the water, butter, shake, cover, stand for five minutes: it will be very tasty!

Cook for a little longer

I cook for 10 minutes.

I didn't understand anything at all. Why three minutes? We poured flour and immediately the start button, and not the + button (3 minutes which)

For me, nothing happened the first time with durum, as well as with ordinary flour. I threw everything out of plain flour and sculpted a new portion. Durum was greedy to throw it away, took out the crumbs, cleaned the machine and added water to the crumbs by hand. Then she poured this crumb into the machine and turned it on for three minutes. Start to crawl out. in three minutes there was no time and there was clearly a lot of water. So I opened the lid, shoved a lump of dough and again for three minutes. Tired of the third run. I rolled the rest into a ball and put it in the refrigerator. I hope that it's because of the heat and the flour has just dried up wildly, so nothing works for me. But thanks to your advice, I begin to understand how dry the crumb should be. That liquid is sooooo important, I couldn't even imagine. Dry does not fit, wet also does not fit. Tomorrow I will continue, today everyone at home was stunned by my jumping around the car. Flour all over the kitchen, (shaking crumbs out of a typewriter is a dirty job) itself in flour, even a dog and that in flour

THANKS YOU GIRLS !!!!!!!!

Well, it was necessary not to set 3 minutes, but to do it in normal mode. There is more time. 3 minutes kneading, and the remaining spaghetti is squeezed out.
Flour cannot dry in 3 minutes in the car, especially since it is closed, we also have a wild heat, but nothing dries. Most likely it's the water. You need a little more water and look at the weight. You find a video on YouTube, there are a lot of them, and see how it should be.

I already saw the video! But how does it feel to the touch? Dry shortbread dough? But it shouldn't stick together, right?
I could not even imagine that there would be such difficulties. Five times in the urn!

Dry shortbread dough? But it shouldn't stick together, right?

Yes, something like that. Like shortbread, but not dry. It is like a shortbread, but it turns during the kneading process not with sand-sand, but alas, a little whole mass, but visually it is visible that this is not a lump of dough, but just like a shortbread dough.
In a lump, not in any way.
But the liquid is not needed 95ml for durum. try adding 110 ml right away and see how it mixes. If the mixture is dry, but you can see that it is dry, then add another 10 ml and watch again. Everything is determined empirically.

[Irlarsen]

I would have banged the car against the wall. Well, you have patience, Irlarsen!

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsenare you waiting too early for the spaghetti to come out? After mixing the crumb, the machine seems to freeze and start turning in the other direction?
As for watching a video, there are a lot of them on YouTube, but there are few informative ones, they usually say how they pour water, and then immediately ay-ay, what a charm, the warm macaroons climbed.
And the most interesting thing for me is the consistency of the crumb and how much waste comes out.

[Irlarsen]

Irlarsen, watch the video under the spoiler what the "crumb" looks like when kneading. I don't use measuring cups, for 250 g of flour (a mixture of hard and soft varieties) 105-110 ml of liquid (including eggs)

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I could not even imagine that there would be such difficulties. Five times in the urn!

Irina, if at the beginning of using the machine there are such difficulties, then maybe at the initial stage, weigh the flour and use the signs in the instructions? I, however, have a little elephant, and in the instructions after "for 1 cup of flour - 1/2 cup of egg mixture" there are three tablets (for the egg mixture, water and juice), which clearly indicate how much liquid per 200 gram different flour. You probably do the same.
I recently had a machine and so far only cooked "Durum (150 g of durum flour + 50 g of premium flour) - 85ml egg mixture (side B)", and the first time everything worked out.

PS: specially now I poured flour into a cup / s - 180 g if tamped. Well, not 200.

I could not stand it, I went and tried it again. The result is better, the crumb looks exactly the same, it was, FINALLY, climb out, but very very slowly! Half got out in 10 minutes. I added water and started it again. Immediately it became not a crumb, but it got out cheerfully. In 3 minutes everything got out.
Next time I will weigh the flour. Here, at my dacha, the battery on my kitchen scale has run out. Tomorrow we'll move, and I have scales at home!

Thank you, my dears!

[uluna]

uluna,
Maria, that surprised me at the same time they write about a cup of flour and about 200g, although in a cup of 180g. Until I understand how best, I weigh flour



Irlarsen,
Everything will work out tomorrow))

Erased)).

It seems like they figured it out without me.

[Scarecrow]

Scarecrow,
Well, I erased it in vain - maybe someone else could come in handy)

[Irlarsen]

IrlarsenAt night I looked on YouTube a lot of stuff about the pasta machine, I can watch it. Cooking with Irina Khlebnikova a pasta machine. Overview. There are neat details about the big car. I also noticed in other reviews that if the first pasta comes out dry and not uniform in appearance, then they are cut off, they pause, open the lid, throw the pause into the machine and continue to squeeze out the pasta, more attractive and homogeneous products are already coming out. And here's another, there, in one of the reviews, it sounded that 200g: this is not the contents of the glass, but the amount of the finished product from one glass of flour, but I did not understand it dry or boiled.

[Sofita]

Sofita, on a large pasta machine, the portion output is written: 300 and 600 grams, respectively.
There are also two modes.

and the amount of the finished product from one glass of flour, just did not understand dry or boiled.

In cheese.

Here is 333 grams of raw from one glass in a large Elephant.

That's for sure! It will be necessary tomorrow to weigh the net weight with flour and the net weight with water and the net weight of the egg with water and finally the finished product. Perhaps, depending on the recipe, the weight of the product also depends. In a small typewriter, 200g is a conventional unit of the weight of the finished product, and in a large typewriter, 300g is a conventional unit of the finished product. In fact: in the same glass and with the same volume of flour, the weight can be more or less, depending on which flour to use. We'll have to gain experience, write everything down and study the best.

also it is necessary to take into account that there is waste, and, moreover, too much for the technology, which is considered to be good.
I cut them manually, but I can't say that it is very annoying. But not at all happy.

The last time I had no waste at all.
And those that used to be, with a tablespoon in volume, put them in the freezer and added to the next batch.
Practically, wasteless ...

there is waste, moreover, a bit too much

How many? Is your elephant big or small?
I also had a lot left until I thought to poke at the + button. and scroll for another 3 minutes leftovers. There is practically no test now. What is in the matrix and literally a teaspoon in the hopper.