Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300

Tanyusha, but initially somehow Tristar behaves differently. Here with Irochka Jiri, you see, Tristars from the same mother.

or rather from the daddy's bungler

[RepeShock]

RepeShock - Irinawhy such conclusions? Great pizza is obtained in Princesses.
All the same, comparing Ferrari and Princesses is not entirely correct ..
Princesses are a more budgetary option and, you see, are more versatile.
Nobody fried cutlets in Ferrari yet, it seems.

or rather from the daddy's bungler

both, Irish, are good.
I mainly checked my Tristar for baked goods and cutlets. Here are baked goods with molds and rugs, but the cutlets themselves are wonderful. Juicy, plump, piggies straight!

[electric stove]

Probably if I had electric stove, I would also fiddle with Tristar, I would be happy with him, and baking in 30-35 minutes would suit me, but I repeat, a good gas / oven does an excellent job during this time.
And the Princess (personally to me) just like fast and great baking result. No, well, really girls, I really think, having a gas / oven, buying electrical appliances that bake for the same time as gas is somehow not camilfo.

[Taia]

Well, now, the plates have already gone into arguments .... n-yes.
Taia, I generally did not compare the Ferrari and the princess. I do not have a Ferrari.
I judge in the same way as the others: from the photo.

[Taya]

Nobody fried cutlets in Ferrari yet, it seems.

Taya, but about Ferrari has long been in the subject Pizza oven said to be a highly specialized oven for pizza fans

Larssevsk, Larisa! Perhaps only their designers, engineers, designers can explain to you why the Princess bakes better than Tristar (I don’t know how to call them correctly, in short, those who invented each of these stoves). But the fact remains. And here you can not argue. The Princess has such a feature. For most of our members of the forum, it is a plus in the direction of choosing a Princess. Well, and for someone Tristar, baking weaker, is more to their liking. The taste and color ...

Well, now, the plates have already gone into arguments ... n-yes

And why not, why do I need one oven that bakes for half an hour, if there is another that takes 20 minutes?
Those who have electric stoves will probably not understand the owners of gas / ovens

[RepeShock]

RepeShock,

We have a pizza chain called Pizza Hard.
And they have special equipment for baking pizza, in general, a narrowly specialized establishment.
But their pizza is disgusting.
Ches word, mine from an ordinary stove is much tastier.
Conclusion: it does not matter on what and in what oven.
I came to this conclusion.

mine from an ordinary stove is much tastier.

So I have the same
I don't think it's necessary to buy a separate piece just for pizza.

But their pizza is disgusting.
Ches word, mine from an ordinary stove is much tastier.
Conclusion: it does not matter on what and in what oven.

It all depends on the hostess and family preferences.
The taste and color .. all markers are different

I am still studying stones. I did not find Metlakhskaya, the rest is expensive, except that for a tandoor it is humane, but it is round. Is that what I couldn't buy a staff with a stone? Although it is clear what, it cost four times more. And so you spend money on the cost as a floor of a stove and it turns out that I will not learn to use and will not.
And also a dish for pancakes in Wishlist. Or some other suitable saucepan.

I don't think it's necessary to buy a separate piece just for pizza.

Yes ... but you cannot convey the euphoria that my family and I experienced after the first baking in this oven.

Girls don't argue, to each his own

[Tanyush @ ka]

Here I am about the same Tanyush @ ka

Also stand up for the princess pizza I used to think that I was making delicious pizza in my electric oven. The pizzeria has long ceased to go. But the pizza from Pr turned out to be tastier, it is a little different, the crust is thinner in the dough, pleasant soft crunchiness. Thin pizza is incomparable, on the dough it turns out a little different, pie) But in general - we are all so different, someone is more gourmet, someone is less, the main thing is that your own equipment in your kitchen suits and gives out the result that you and your family like

The princess girls are simply more powerful in her 1500 watts, in tristar it is already 1450, and in the tartila 1300, in the clathronic generally 1800, the pizza is already baked faster than in the prince, and the ferrari with a stone, it does not count, there is the temperature of the stone

Girls don't argue, to each his own

Yes, we do not argue.

We communicate and share opinions.

Perhaps only their designers, engineers, and designers will be able to explain to you why the Princess bakes better than Tristar.

Lena, since my diploma specialty is called "Marine Electronics and Hydrophysics" and by education I am an electrical engineer (and I don’t care that I haven’t worked a day), so a cognitive dissonance arises in my head about how devices with the same with bodies, the same coating material, the same temperature, the same heating elements, the same height, the oven can be baked in different ways. Does the air somehow circulate there in a different way? Or is the temperature still different? If different, then who measured? Which one? How much is the minimum and maximum in Tristar? In the Princess, for a long time, Manna was still measuring. I don't remember, either 180, or 190. Maybe someone will remind? In Tristar, the temperature is less than 180?
Ufff Formulated

Girls, I want to clarify the situation - in Tristar, my pie in 20 minutes (when I opened it for the first time) was very ruddy, but I was reinsured, because the bottom was thick and there was a lot of filling and it was liquid, so I left it still, and since I was engaged incidentally, I honestly forgot even that it was time to turn it off.
I have both the Princess and the Tritstar, I don’t share them - both like it, which is more convenient at this moment, at that one I put the pastries. Already not once baked pmstsu at the same time, I did not notice any difference.
Tristar
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Princess
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[shuska]

shuska, Thank you. I did it at GF, very tasty. I like to cook charlotte in a Panasonic cartoon, but in GF it turned out very tasty and fast.
This is what I had in 17 minutes from a cold state.

What a charm, and no matter who bakes what, the main thing is to have fun. I have a princess, everything in her suits me

Added Thursday, 01 Dec 2016, 14:26

Svetlana, pizza bomb

[Svetlana]

Already not once baked pmstsu at the same time, I did not notice any difference.

Thank you, Svetlana, that's what we're talking about. The same. point.

Larssevsk, Larisa! Someone was measuring in Tristar too, maybe Masha-Masinen somewhere soon after the appearance of Tristar. She writes about the difference in temperatures between the top and bottom, but insignificant. This temperature difference, in theory, should not give a white top. But he's white after all! My education is not technical, I don't understand a damn thing about it. It's just that if I like it, I use it, and if I don’t like it, then I can throw some little thing.

Irish, I also had both, and this is also my point of view, taking place. The princess bakes better and better quality, without much frills. (Unlike Tristar)

Quote: Vesta from Today at 14:20
Already not once baked pmstsu at the same time, I did not notice any difference.

Thank you, Svetlana, this is what we are talking about. The same. point.

I would put "..."

[Tanya,]

Natusichka, read from here and below

Tanya, I read this, but still did not find the answer WHY it happens that you can lay, but envelopes cannot ?!

[Mirabel]

Mirabel, saika, Tanyush @ ka, Kseny @thanks girls
I cooked something in the Princess all night today, just to remember that
Vika, take a new Princescu, you won't regret it! Moreover, in Europe you can see there is it in black. On the booklet she is photographed in black - such a beauty! Of course, I will have it as a red spot, there is nothing more red in the kitchen
I have instructions completely in foreign languages. I wanted to read, I didn't understand a little with the temperature regulator, and not a single word in either Russian or Ukrainian. Seen only for the internal European market intended
Girls, somewhere I met information that it is impossible to fry on foil. it turns out and it is impossible to form ready-made, from which foil, insert?

Added on Thursday, 01 Dec 2016 11:52

saika, missed your question.
this is a model of the updated Princess with the Princess 115001 temperature controller. It seems that it is not for sale in Russia.

Nelya and in what an Internet. magician. you have bought. I have a princess, but I want a daughter.

[Natusichka]

you can lay, but envelopes - you can't ?!

Natusichka, I am not at all a physicist, but maybe the foil really shields somehow, and something happens to the temperature sensor, and as a result, the stove overheats, this is not an oven, there is no ventilation.

[Tanyush @ ka]

very airy

Tanyush @ ka, yes, it was airy.

Was baked in a glass form in the GF?

Yuliya K, Julia, yeah in a glass form.

[Tatyana]

Here is a choice, how lucky you are

Tatyana, the choice was not particularly lucky, that is, only the price of our stoves is not in comparison with yours. You can take a princess for a promotion 2 times cheaper than from us, and even I look at all sorts of points from you, but we have no promotions or balls
And your choice is not small either, there are all sorts of GF, or gourmets ... we don't have that

there is only one phrase in the instructions for the princess about the regulator: set the regulator to the required temperature. Truncated

Oksana, I look at the regulator and in appearance I do not understand at what position it stands t - either at min., or at max. There is no mark there - not a dash, not a stick. Yesterday I put it on warming up, before throwing the cake. I am waiting for the maximum power, I touch the body with my hand - and it is cold. I think - what's the matter, why is it pace. does not gain. Then I turn the regulator, and it for min. worth it. I don't like it, I need to somehow draw some marks there
I realized that if you scroll all the way to the left, then there will be a small temperature, if to the right - large, then somewhere in the middle is average. But visually I don't see it

There is no mark there - not a dash, not a stick.

It's strange, it's a pity for the paint)))
Tristar has both a scale and min / max. For min, yes, the stove is in standby mode, it is very convenient.

[Valyushechka]

Valyushechka, bought here

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but now I looked, they have already set the price for 20 UAH more. Not critical, but ...
frying pan. yua seems to be even cheaper now, but I have free shipping, I still won in price.
My daughter just called and says they want to buy a grill. I advised to pay attention to the Klatronic pizza oven better.

Added Thursday, 01 Dec 2016 15:35

paint is a pity)))

it turns out that I was sorry yesterday with a magnifying glass, I was looking for what mark

[Nelya,]

bought here

Nelya, good price!

[any heated or hot bodies]

What else did I find about foil:

"In everyday life, a person is constantly exposed to infrared radiation (IR radiation). Its natural source is the sun. Artificial heating elements and incandescent lamps are artificial. any heated or hot bodies."

Pizza makers also have IR rays.

"Infrared rays hitting the aluminum foil layer are not absorbed by it, but are reflected in the opposite direction."

So it turns out that the stove overheats, the products, when baked, absorb these very rays, and the foil reflects.

[Pizza oven]

I am an absolute NOT a pizza lover! I was always cool about this "dish". And in terms of eating and cooking. So it was until ... I bought a Ferrari. Now I am drawn to make pizza))) It is done instantly and it turns out very tasty!

...I didn’t compare the Ferrari and the princess. I don’t have a Ferrari. I judge in the same way as the others: from the photo.

I have both stoves. I confirm that it is absolutely impossible to compare them! When there was the agony of choosing which one to buy, the husband said "take both." But for the money it didn't work. Therefore, first I took Ferrara. Since then, pizza in our house has become regular

Ches word, mine from an ordinary stove is much tastier.
Conclusion: it does not matter on what and in what oven.

Of course. A matter of taste. But where did I not try to bake pizza (only I didn’t try it in the new Clathronic, because there is a Ferrari). Nowhere else do you get such a result as from Ferrari. Chessword!

... but about Ferrari has long been in the subject Pizza oven said to be a highly specialized oven for pizza fans

I did not manage to do anything else in it, although the girls manage to bake other pastries in it. True, I have not yet tried baking tortillas. Maybe they will work out.

I don't think it's necessary to buy a separate piece just for pizza.

I absolutely did the same until I bought a Ferrari)))) Now no one will convince me. If possible, this stove is definitely worth buying!

Yes ... but you cannot convey the euphoria that my family and I experienced after the first baking in this oven.

Only after the first one? We are delighted every time I make pizza))) And I am also in the process of cooking
PS Having 3 stoves (Ferrari, Princess and Clathronic), I can firmly say that they are all unique and I am doing my job. Such a trinity complements each other well. And this despite the fact that I have gas and an electric oven in my house)))

[Tanya,]

So the stove overheats, the products, baking, absorb these same rays, and the foil reflects

Tanya, but you say that you are not a physicist at all ... What a physicist!
But again it is not clear. If the foil reflects the enti rays, then how is it cooked in the foil?

[shuska]

Only after the first one?

shuska, yes, I experience it every time, this euphoria, and after the first time it would be more accurate to say- shock

[shuska]

shuska, yes, I experience it every time, this euphoria, and after the first time it would be more accurate to say- shock

Agree 101%

[shuska]

shuska, you pulled the phrase out of my message. And this distorted the meaning.

I wrote and compared it to pizza from our pizzeria.

but you say that you are not a physicist at all

yes it is, scientific literature, mind games and basic knowledge

[shuska]

shuska, you pulled the phrase out of my message. And this distorted the meaning.

I wrote and compared it to pizza from our pizzeria.

My answer was to your "Conclusion" ("Conclusion: it does not matter on what and what oven"). "Conclusion" for that and "conclusion" to summarize the above I do not agree with this. From my own experience I was convinced that there is still a difference "on what to bake". So do not be offended, I have not distorted the meaning of your words

[Taya]

We have a pizza chain called Pizza Hard.
And they have special equipment for baking pizza, in general, a narrowly specialized establishment.
But their pizza is disgusting.

Taya, from this message I realized that even in a narrowly-specialized establishment, pizza may not be tasty.
Ferrari, although a highly specialized device, bakes great pizza, that's exactly what I wanted to say shuska
So with this phrase

Conclusion: it does not matter on what and in what oven.

I would not agree

I am an absolute NOT a pizza lover! I was always cool about this "dish". And in terms of eating and cooking. So it was until ... I bought a Ferrari. Now I am drawn to make pizza))) It is done instantly and it turns out very tasty!
I have both stoves. I confirm that it is absolutely impossible to compare them!

I cited a Ferrari as an example because the Princess was called pizza. I agree that she is the best in Ferrari, and I also had experience with the princess, which I later sold, and with the tristar, which is now. That is, I do not just compare. Ferrari is also excellent at baking tortillas, as well as sweet cakes.I baked a cake with apples, it turned out to be thin, crispy, dare in one moment. In general, Ferrari is not really a narrow-minded person. device, as they say.

[Taya]

Taya, from this message I realized that even in a narrow-profile establishment, pizza may not be tasty.
Ferrari, although a highly specialized device, bakes great pizza, that's exactly what I wanted to say shuska
So I would disagree with this phrase

Yes! That's what I wanted to say! (and said)

Added Thursday, 01 December 2016, 04:37 PM

I cited a Ferrari as an example because the Princess was called pizza. I agree that she is the best in Ferrari, and I also had experience with the princess, which I later sold, and with the tristar, which is now. That is, I do not just compare.

I agree with your words

The princess is a wonderful machine, but, unfortunately, she will not make real pizza. I understand that many girls who cannot (do not want) to buy F are forced to get out with the existing stoves. Here, as they say, "not to fat". But for the sake of truth, to say about the "not quite real" pizza from the Princess is still worth it. If only because girls who are just choosing which stove to buy should clearly understand that "real" pizza from the Princess will not work. Suddenly someone harbors hopes that "all the same will come out." And then there will be only disappointments.

Ferrari is also great at baking tortillas as well as sweet cakes. I baked a cake with apples, it turned out to be thin, crispy, dare in one moment. In general, Ferrari is not really a narrow specialist. device, as they say.

Great! You are well done! I also want to learn additional baking at F.
Although the "narrow specialization" F suits me quite well, given the result of baking in it

Yes, Ferrari has a completely different pizza, another excellent pizza in Bestron, all because of the baking temperature, the pizza loves high temperatures.

Added Thursday, 01 December 2016, 04:47 PM

And in pizza Hut, the pizza is not very good, not because of the equipment, but because of the dough, they make American pizza on a thick dough, personally, I am not very like that, that is, I can eat, but for me it's a pie, not a pizza.

[shuska]

Girls, here's a charlotte from shuska, baked in Tristar, 20 minutes from the cold state of the appliance. She thanked the author of the recipe, as it turned out very tasty. Maybe it seems to me, but in the oven it turns out a little differently. Here, in Tristar, there is such a spirit of baked apples, just baked apples. After 10 min. baking, the top of the charlotte was already rosy.

[shuska]

Although the "narrow specialization" F suits me quite well, given the result of baking in it

Try using Lerele's Hut pizza dough as a base, top with apples (or other berries of your choice) blanched in syrup and sprinkle with cinnamon. It bakes quickly and very tasty. I always make a thin piece, it crunches so great! and such a pie is very popular with children.

Added Thursday, 01 Dec 2016, 16:54

Girls, here's a charlotte from shuska, baked in Tristar, 20 minutes from the cold state of the appliance.

Well, isn't it lovely? very beautiful charlotte! so the tristar is a great device

... Maybe it seems to me, but in the oven it turns out a little differently ...

That's for sure! I like Charlotte from the pizza machine much more than from the oven.

[Elena]

After 10 min. baking, the top of the charlotte was already rosy.

Thank you, Elena!

Another, visual proof of identity of baking in tristar and princess.

Another, clear proof of the identity of baking in tristar and princess.

I suspect there may be rare specimens that are poorly regulated, so sometimes negative reviews arise.

And I only suspect a bias
I also suspect something, but I will not voice it