Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

[Tatyana]

Tatyana, Money, first make a small portion so that you can catch the meaning and the algorithm itself, understand the technology. It will be easier to figure it out, but with large volumes it is hard to dry, ferment, and dry ... Assemble the T-shirt bag, experiment.

[Money]

Here ... there is time to mentally prepare We love strong, rich tea

Money, Tanya, that's right, get ready mentally with your husband! Although tea-making is more of a meditative process than work. I always trudge so straight when I have tea.

yes, and probably a lot of sheets ... By the way, is it optimal, a bucket? 2, 3? leaves enough? To and the process of norms. passed and dry in a large oven right away. There is a dryer too

Tan, well, if the oven is large, then 2 - 2.5 kilograms can be torn. I don't know how much it is in buckets, but a T-shirt bag from a store fits about 1 kg. Look at the first page in the recipe, I have just 1 kg of leaves in a bag.
But it's better not to tear into buckets - the leaves will sweat there and fermentation will begin prematurely, even before withering. I recently went for leaves with a box of chips. Here with this.



And yet - Ivan tea breaks very quickly and easily. But with leaves of garden stench, you will have to try to pick up 1 kg. Start at 1 - 1.5 kg. It's easier to start this way ...
And be careful with all the trees - do not expose them. It would be nice to find wild animals or abandoned areas. You can tear to your heart's content. Which I, in fact, have always done.

Added Thursday, 12 May 2016 09:47

Collect the T-shirt bag,

Oh, and Lena wrote about the T-shirt! so tear 1 - 1.5 kg for now. To get a feel for the process ..

We love strong, rich tea

Tanya, then fried sushi. And strong tea will be, and rich.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Luda

Tanya, then fried sushi. And strong tea will be, and rich.

I still have a long way to go!

elena kadiewa, [/ b] Lena, girls, thanks for all the advice, now I will definitely not give up.
I left for work today, looked around my native street with an avid glance, there is no end to work!
Now the rains will go on and on, you can go to the Kuban, there are also former vegetable gardens, indeed, their trees will not go anywhere, there are plenty of no-one around.
And I am not friends with field grasses, I do not distinguish anywhere, but there are no tags on them, I simply pull on something that is not edible

Somehow I don't really climb trees, and I probably need a lot of leaves ...

Lord! why climb trees? There are enough leaves on the lower branches! And it is better to start not with bucket quantities, but more modestly, for example, with a PET bag, which is not the largest from the sepermarket. And then you will be packed with tea, and the result may not please! In the first year, I generally recommend doing a little and all sorts of different and preferably monovariants in order to understand what you like, what you don't like, how to ferment, how to dry. Mixes can then be mixed from mono teas. For me, for example, the persona non grata in tea turned out to be the beloved cherry. I use it as a monovariant only in tincture for making homemade martini. So try a little and find your favorite tea!

Posted Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:47 PM

I am not friends with field grasses, I do not distinguish anywhere, but there are no tags on them, I simply pull on something edible

And here the books - determinants can help! Earlier, in the Soviet Union, such were published even by region, you can look at flea markets, on sites like Avito, etc. - a very useful thing.

Lyudmila, either there was a conversation, or an exact calculation about the consumption of tea per person. We counted 6 kg of tea per person. Who has drunk how much? I didn't have the weights when they laid it, so they didn't count it. We didn't have enough Ivanushka, it ended in March. And as soon as I think that it is even tastier for a long time, then in general it takes sorrow.

[filirina,]

filirina,

For me, for example, the persona non grata in tea was the beloved cherry. I use it as a monovariant only in tincture for making homemade martini. So try a little and find your favorite tea!

Irina, where can I look at the recipe? You see, there was a use for everything, and what a use!

[krylyshkin]

krylyshkin, Alexei, forgive me for answering so late - I was running around. I measure not with those that are more convenient, but with what is - with a thermometer from Tescom's ham, there is no photo, unfortunately. Another thing to buy is not leisure, and that's okay.

Irina, where can I look at the recipe?

In the evening I can also throw in a personal link to the video on YouTube. Now I'm writing from a tablet, but it's inconvenient for me.

there is time to mentally prepare

Tatyana, you have NO time to mentally prepare! Trust me! It's time to make tea! Moreover, in Krasnodar.
Comparing cherry tea last year, I can say that it is better to make cherries now (of course, if the leaf is already fully grown). The tea is very aromatic, and the leaf is not yet as tough to process as summer and, moreover, autumn.
I am already collecting my favorite pear in full swing. Soon the raspberries will need to be thinned out already. For the second year I will do this not just because I have to, but with pleasure in anticipation of raspberry tea (I put it in all mixes). Come to Temka "garden" teas! It's no less interesting there than here!

[Radushka]

Radushka, for me there is a bag of narvi! And tell me what "I" feel, collecting the first leaves ... I'm just nostalgic ...

[elena kadiewa]

elena kadiewa,

[Radushka,]

Radushka,

Tatyana, you have NO time to mentally prepare! Trust me! It's time to make tea! Moreover, in Krasnodar.

Thanks for the pendal
This weekend I'll start, if only it doesn't rain!
And I really have to go to the topic at the address, thank you all!

In the evening I can also throw in a personal link to the video on YouTube.

Can I have such a reference too?

[Money]

you can also go to the Kuban, there are also former vegetable gardens

Money, Tanya, where did you decide to go to the Kuban? Maybe you will just come to visit?

Added Friday 13 May 2016 7:57 PM

In the evening I can also throw in a personal link to the video on YouTube.

Why is it only in a personal? !! Then it's better to go to the gazebo))) I'm also waiting.

Well, if you can go to the gazebo, then to the gazebo! It's just there a link to YouTube, I don't know if it can be given? After all, links to extraneous resources are prohibited?

After all, links to extraneous resources are prohibited?

Active links to other links are not allowed. Videos from YouTube are available. You insert a link, select and press the "YouTube" button, next to the "picture" button

Another use to find where this "picture" button is? Maybe it will come in handy for the future .... though the sclerosis progresses, if I don't use anything with regards to the computer, it flies out of my head instantly!

[Divnay]

Lyudmila, either there was a conversation, or an exact calculation about the consumption of tea per person. We counted 6 kg of tea per person. Who has drunk how much?

Divnay, Irina, at the end of the recipe there is a link to the calculation of tea consumption by one person per year. It is taken at the rate of 5 gr. tea per person per day. But these are very conservative estimates ... But anyway, 6 kg is a bit too much. Although you don't have much of our tea, there won't be much. it takes a lot of presents. And it can be stored "forever" - the taste and aroma only improve over time.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudmila, thank you.
5 grams is a teaspoon total. We brewed 2-4 tablespoons in a thermos for a 3 liter thermos, enough for a day, and even then not all family members drank. My husband, of course, has a mug with half a liter

[Divnay]

5 g is a teaspoon total

Divnay, Irinacertainly not enough ...This is the way to pamper yourself. In general, I put 4 teaspoons with a hill on a liter thermos. It's hard for me to count as I distribute a lot of tea. And I never kept track of what was spent. only - done.
Girls, how much tea do you spend?

Girls, how much tea do you spend?

Yes, it takes one and a half tsp for a 0.5 liter mug. granulated ivanchi (6 grams approximately). At least once a day for me and my husband. Sometimes 0.5 liters at work ... If with all the teas on weekends, then for two there are about 6 kg of tea per year. Not counting gift gifts and gifts received.
But this calculation is correct only for granulated tea, since leaf tea also occupies a different volume and its intensity during brewing is different.
Since we are addicted to granulated, I consider tea in liters, not grams: how much fits into a glass jar. Because I keep all batches mostly separately for odor control.
But I can say that my good tea this year was not enough and I had to ask tea-makers from the friendly forum to send their tea for a sample. The rest of the experimental games with a honey-pollen aroma are just there ... Let them be, suddenly there is nothing to drink at all, and they will be used.

[Tricia]

Tricia, Nastenka!

experimental batches with honey-pollen aroma

How's that?

Oh, what I got today, the Son is preparing, studying.

[Borisenok, Lena]

Borisenok, Lena, maybe this is my subjective opinion, but some dry tea smells like that to me ... something sweet and herbal, but not a broom or silage. Rather, the smell is closer to the smell of mother-and-mother pollen, to honey. I couldn't drink this tea - it's not my aroma at all, I prefer fruit, raisin-prune-rosehip shades.
But, it is clear that I am not a perfume sniffer, so I can be mistaken in shades and smells.
I went and smelled again ... "Macho" (leafy with strong fermentation and frying) now smells like good black tea, the sweetness seems to be gone, you have to brew and try. Some of them smelled like fish. Others are again sweet or just plain tea. In short, it's completely ambiguous, I'd better wait for my husband, tell him what he smells like, here I believe him more than myself.

Much also depends on the material in which the tea is stored: glass, plastic, tin, wood, paper. Are the lids, storage temperatures, etc. sealed? In my glass jars with twisted lids, the tea stopped smelling, and after pouring it into a tin can, it started again.
Okay, let him stand, he doesn't ask for food. Suddenly, then I change my mind and the tea smell acquired over the years will change and I will like it.

Divnay, Irina, Congratulations! : rose: The right thing! May it serve you faithfully for a long time!

[Tricia]

Tricia, Thank you.

[Tricia]

Tricia, Nastenka, I always enjoy reading your reflections-research. Put your posts in a separate topic! There is so much that is necessary and useful for all tea-makers. Thank you for that!
By the way, I also noticed that any tea poured into a tin starts to smell "right".

Oh, what I got today, the Son is preparing, studying.

Divnay, Ira, with your family assistant. A very useful thing in the household and our tea business!

[Divnay]

Divnay, Irina, congratulations on the new thing! Great helper!
Tricia, Nastenka! Here is truly "the taste and color ...", and my all are simply fascinated by the "honey" aroma of tea ...
I bought a lot of cans from 1.5 to 4 liters of Tupperware for tea, and my hands are itching to fill them all with tea.

we are addicted to granulated, I count tea in liters,

And I keep counting in liters ... and to be honest, I don’t even know the flow rate for the year ... though I brew it in a 1 liter thermos, I put 3 teaspoons on top, but I brew it two, or even three times.

Girls, Muscovites, how is the situation in the fields ?? Ivan tea has grown ??

[Omela]

Omela, oh ... until I went to the fields ... I really saw on the site, 20-30 centimeters already growing!

I really saw on the site, 20-30 centimeters already growing!

Then it's time to start doing May.Last year, on May 15, I started making from the same ..

Then it's time to start doing May.

With such parting words ... we must open the season!
I liked Maisky, not so long ago I opened the jar ... and taaam .... !!! A riot of aromas !!!

Girls, Muscovites, how is the situation in the fields ?? Ivan tea has grown ??

Ksyusha, we'll see tomorrow. A husband with a dog walks along the river in the field, gave an assignment to pay attention to him.
News from the fields, Ivan's tea is still very young, the leaves are thin, in my opinion it is necessary in a week, but my husband has already started the season, he has already brought me two bags, so I have to do it.

Added Sunday 15 May 2016 09:35 AM

Ivan's tea collected today

[Hope]

Hope, .... started!!!!!

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, Mom dear, at least come to you.

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, Mom dear, at least come to you.

Come before it's too late. Otherwise, everyone is trying to build up flooded meadows, this is a water protection zone, forests have already been lost, and soon fields too.

Aaaaa ... super !!! I went to the fields too!

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, Nadia, what Ivanushka is all even, clean, in a word handsome. And your husband is great!

[francevna]

francevna, Allochka, thanks. The leaves are really fresh, dust-free, the stems are soft.
Such young ones grind well, just for leaf tea very well. Later, the leaves are already roughened and require more effort.
Of course, thanks to my husband, but I had plans for planting for today, I had to do tea

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, Nadia ... Cool! Our handsome! Happy season opening! Pick off the leaves only from the stems. It will be better!
Respect to my husband!

Maybe I'm fundamentally wrong, but looking at these young tops I look and how I can imagine what to grind them. Maybe it's better to simmer in a cast iron? Of course you need to ferment, but it's a pity to crush it, it would be so straight with twigs.

[lappl1]

lappl1, Lyudochka! Thank you!
Of course she ripped off the leaves, there was a speech to leave them, mine took, parted without regret!
Luda, thank you a thousand times for the teas! My husband switched completely to them, I love cherry more. When we pick the berries, here I will come off in full!

I drove it on a bike, I typed quite a bit, just starting to climb. The husband also came off, he collected cow dung for fertilization.)))))))))))

No need to torment!
May leaves fray easily!

I, too, a little bit of ivanushka! How gentle he is! I wrapped it up to wither and now in thought, twist it, or wrinkle it with my hands. He just climbs. Probably need to wait a week.

Oh, and I got 8 kg with stems! We have a lot of it, there are very young ones, there are with very good leaves ... In the morning I sit with my hands like pies, then with my palm on a slightly rough cutting board! Compared to ripe ones, it's easier!

[Jouravl]

Jouravl, 8 kg? : girl_cray1: And we still have cold weather, snow and rain. It's too early for us.

And at the dacha last year, by the end of the summer, I found several bushes of Ivan tea in raspberries on a hillock on the site of the former chicken coop. Collected even in August after flowering. And this year he is everywhere, full right on the site. I even think to transplant part of it into the corners where the gardener did not step in my "wild" dacha. I'll pinch him a little.

[Divnay]

Maybe I'm fundamentally wrong, but looking at these young tops I look and how I can imagine what to grind them. Maybe it's better to simmer in a cast iron? Of course you need to ferment, but it's a pity to crumple it, it would be so straight with twigs

Divnay, Irina, last year I tried (and I'm not alone) to make leaves together with the stems. Nonsense turns out - it is not possible to evenly wither the raw materials. The leaves have already wilted, but the stems are not (very juicy and tasty, by the way, sweet). An incorrectly dried mass went to fermentation. I did not like the result - not beautiful and not tasty. Excessive moisture in the stalks did not allow the fermentation to pass qualitatively. We need to remove 60% of the moisture during the drying process. And if you dry the stems and leaves together, then this is almost impossible to do. So, although it took a lot of time to pluck the leaves, I did it.
About languishing in a cast iron ... But no one canceled the withering. And then I tried to do it, I didn't like the result either ...

Added Monday 16 May 2016 02:34 PM

Florichka, Jouravl, Omela, Nadyushich, congratulations on a successful hunt! Let your first tea turn out to be divine!

And at the dacha last year, by the end of the summer, I found several bushes of Ivan tea in raspberries on a hillock on the site of the former chicken coop. Collected even in August after flowering. And this year he is everywhere, full right on the site. I even think to transplant part of it into the corners where the gardener did not step in my "wild" dacha. I'll pinch him a little.

Florichka, Irisha, and congratulations to you! Good! There is no need to go far after Vanya! Although, you probably have a lot of it in the vicinity.
And I can't plant Vanechka - the steppe, it's not the climate here for him ... In the summer up to 50 * in the sun. I'll try under the trees though. There are seeds. Collected before leaving.

And I can't put Vanechka

I have my beloved Vanechka, the bear sharpens! I chase her, and she gnaws! She spat on the opportunity, at least a little, to pick leaves and processed the minks. I'd rather mix it now than tea ... Eh ...

lappl1, Lyudmila, in our heat it seems that Ivan's tea has taken root. From seeds 3 bushes and Natasha sent rhizomes. Everything overwintered. Seated in different places where the shadow happens. Under the fences, near the pond. Growing everywhere. Last year I even made a little tea. If there is a better opportunity to order rhizomes. Well, it's very difficult to grow from seeds. (I was)