Ivan tea (fermentation of fireweed leaves) - master class

Did you write about it somewhere? I seem to be looking through all the topics ...

I just wrote what I was doing, but without details. I don’t remember where.

In the photo, I see, very thin tea leaves ... As if cut ...

I did it in July by kneading from coarse leaves. But she cut. They also turned out to be thin. I added a photo to the recipe last year.
Len, somebody, let him answer. But if it doesn’t respond, do it. And the war will show the plan - if they are fat, you will cut ...

[Elena_Kamch]

Elena_Kamch, Lena, do not cut at all. There are also small and thin panicles - there is nothing to cut. Well, Nastya resists and does not want to make a recipe. You urgently need to knock on her PM in order to make ... And you, Helen, take more pictures, otherwise Nastya has no opportunity to make tea now.
Nastya !!! Do you hear us?

And in more detail, what kind of macho?

And in more detail, what kind of macho?

Dear Veleslog! Of course, it's not difficult to answer, but still it would be nice to learn and look for yourself! Go to the first page and, lo and behold, everything is there! Why else did Luda make a catalog? In order not to constantly answer the same questions !!!!
"Italian Macho" - loose leaf tea from May leaves of willow tea - Tricia

[filirina]

Go to the first page and, lo and behold

filirina, Irina, amused! Indeed, Lyudochka introduced such rules in all recipes! The first pages are just a treasure! You understand ... that you don't know anything

Thank you, I looked, I now ferment like the tops of my heads, twisted each one first, then rolled it into a roll in a linen cloth, then crumpled it for two hours, first with my hands, when they fell off, knees on the floor and now I think, dry it today? Or start at lunch tomorrow? If today it is less than 22 hours, fermentation will turn out, and if tomorrow it is more than 30, a pancake dilemma. Plus, I also wound up five kilograms of granules, dried them tomorrow, and even with a kilogram of tops with unblown flowers, I will now knit and dry them in bundles with green ones, I’ll try a new recipe, the Buryat shaman-beekeeper told me, I spent two years trying to find out from him, he is flint, but here he recently drank some Cossack moonshine and untied his tongue. But there is nothing special just in bunches and dry, and all the power is in the stems and of course the collection time, I wrote above, on the night of the solstice.

[Veleslog]

Now I think, dry today? or tomorrow at lunch you start if today is less than 22 hours fermentation will turn out,

Veleslog, I would dry today. 22 hours is normal.

hands first, when they fell off, knees on the floor and

: lol: Maybe this method should be a separate recipe? On the thigh - it was ... But they did not do it with knees.

Sorry, Veleslog, could not resist, just often lately I ask to issue recipes.

[filirina]

Lyudochka introduced such rules in all recipes! The first pages are just a treasure! You understand ... that you don't know anything

filirina, Elena_Kamch,

[Veleslog]

and one more nuance, until the tea blossomed, there is no strength in it. There is taste, there is benefit, but there is no strength, that there is strength the shaman is still silent, it is difficult with him, a stern person.

Added Wednesday 22 Jun 2016 12:56 PM

Sorry, Veleslog, could not resist, just often lately I ask to issue recipes.

yesterday, against the background of my knees, an idea came to me, what if I stomp on it in a barrel like grapes?

and one more nuance, until the tea blossomed, there is no strength in it.

Wow !!!! But what about the Chinese tea makers ripping off the top three flushes - i.e.the youngest and most tender leaves? And how can one explain the fact that during the germination of grains, a tremendous force is concentrated in young shoots? And many more examples of strength in youth can be recalled!

that there is power the shaman is still silent, it is difficult with him, a stern person.

Yes, you can't argue with a shaman! I'll die of curiosity if you don't tell me who this shaman is. Recently I read the book "Laughter of the Shaman", so this topic is very interesting to me.

[Veleslog]

Veleslog, I would dry today. 22 hours is normal.

I could not resist, began to dry today, those that were washed well, those turn out amazingly, but some remained green, nevertheless, no matter how I, l but did not wash everything to the end, there is no necessary force in my fingers, although I rocked them all winter with an expander. That year, my friend, my son, a young Cossack, washed it out like that, the rag was already wet, and he was 11 years old. This is what rural life does. With an ax and a pitchfork, you will have strength in your fingers.

Added Wednesday 22 Jun 2016 04:29 PM

Wow !!!! But how do Chinese tea makers pick the top three flushes - that is, the youngest and most delicate leaves? And how can one explain the fact that during the germination of grains, a huge force is concentrated in young shoots? And many more examples of strength in youth can be recalled!

Apparently, before flowering, fireweed is considered young, and at the time of flowering it pours with the greatest strength, again, it was not collected from the Slavs either until the Kupala night. It's all interesting, if only the ancestors could tell how it was.

Yes, you can't argue with a shaman! I will die of curiosity if you don't tell me who this shaman is. Recently I read the book "Laughter of the Shaman", so this topic is very interesting to me.

I called him a shaman, he just knows a lot about herbs, the beekeeper makes such honey, I have never tried this in my life, you can buy it only by acquaintance, and at three prices. Who thinks, then the store does not eat. And in general he knows a lot about nature, he talks only reluctantly.

[Veleslog]

Veleslogwhy suffer? Forgot about the ruble? End the torment too! It's a pleasure for them to work even for ladies, and it will be even easier for you.

Girls, there was no light for half a day, but so many things to do, I ran in for a minute to answer you. Sorry for no quotes.
Lena, on the Hair of an Italian macho, used young leaves of willow tea, but not panicles, already larger and kneaded them with her hands (like dough) after withering until drops of juice were released when squeezing the leaves in a fist. I didn't cut anything, the leaves are all solid! That's why the name is - the leaves have dried up in beautiful waves, already with a glint! And really like beautiful black curly hair. The photo shows some red sparks, as if from the setting sun.
And they are thin, because they are well mixed, stuck together from the juice: the leaf plates have gathered, as it were, in a tube around the main vein. And when brewing, they blur with burdocks. If I still find this tea in the bins, I will brew it, and I will show how the opened leaf looks like.
Unfortunately, for me, the fermentation was small, the infusion is more like red tea, although I like black strong. But after drying, it looked like an elite Chinese definitely!

Girls, forgive for God's sake, I don't have time to issue a recipe

I picked up Ivan-tea yesterday, went through and wrapped it in a roll in a cloth and put it in the refrigerator
today after dinner I twisted it in a meat grinder, one portion at a time, and the second one by 2 times, as in the recipe, I pressed it with my hand, covered it with a wet cloth, put it on the floor by the window, sniffed something after 4 hours, I don’t feel the flower smell when it should to appear?
our weather is + 24 degrees, at night they promise +17
the first portion was twisted at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, the second at 4 o'clock, and at 7 o'clock in the morning it will be 16 o'clock, medium fermentation time

Medium fermentation tea (10 - 16 hours) is obtained with a pronounced aroma, moderately tart taste with a slight acidity.

Can I go to bed with a clear conscience and put it to dry in the morning?

[sveta-Lana]

sveta-Lana, SvetlanaI would sleep well

[Tricia]

Tricia, Nastenka, hello! It's so good that you showed up and told us everything. Thank you for that!
It's a shame you can't make a recipe. But what can you do? God willing, you will do it later.Now you are definitely not up to him. In the meantime, I'll make a second link to your Macho! And who will be interested in it, we will send to Notes.
Take care of yourself, honey!
sveta-Lana, Sveta, it’s not so hot in your house. The most normal temperature. Why are you putting tea on the floor? They measured there - how many degrees?

after 4 hours I sniffed something, I don’t feel the flower smell, when should it appear?

I still appeared in three hours. Recently I have only done this - 3 hours, maximum 5 - 6 hours. But do not worry - it is clear that he is cold. Place the container in a room with a normal temperature, and not so that it is 17 *. Tea can be of any fermentation - from 3 hours to 2 - 3 days. Only you decide which one to do. To do this, you need to try to make different tea and choose a fermentation time more acceptable for you.
So, go to sleep well. Next time, do a different time.

Why are you putting tea on the floor? They measured there - how many degrees?

I thought that he needed it cooler, the window is open, the lower, the cooler, the higher, the hotter
there is no thermometer, I am guided by sensations

it can be seen he is cold

moved it to the table, away from the window

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, the temperature should be 24 - 26 *. If lower or higher, then something needs to be done. and you have the most comfortable temperature.

[Ludmila]

Ludmila, thanks for the tips, now I will sleep peacefully

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, good night !

[Veleslog]

Recently I read the book "Laughter of the Shaman", so this topic is very interesting to me.

And why doesn't it surprise me? .......
Lyuyud, and Lyuyud. Have you read the second book? "Shaman's Freedom"



And only shamans interested you? Or is the Cossack Savior also interesting?

Added Wednesday 22 Jun 2016 08:42 PM

my friend's son, a young Cossack

Veleslog, and what Cossacks will you be?)))))))

And why doesn't it surprise me? .......

Len, and I even guess why ...

Have you read the second book? "Shaman's Freedom"

Oh, but I didn't know that there was one. I have to ask my mom. She provides me with books. Or download on the internet by email. book. Thank you, Lenochka, for the tip. I will read it with pleasure.

And only shamans interested you? Or is the Cossack Savior also interesting?

I will not say that I am interested in shamans as such. I passed this book for a long time. But somehow I read a passage and realized that this is not the shaman of whom most have an idea. This is different ... I was more interested in the philosophical side. And nature, the habits of animals and birds, described by the author. And also the question of hermitism. I have never been a hermit, but by the will of fate I found myself in such a situation that there was almost no one around. And I was very interested in the very philosophy of hermitism. Maybe the author focused on other things, but it was these moments that were interesting to me.

Or is the Cossack Savior also interesting?

So I'm the granddaughter of a Terek Cossack and a Don Cossack woman ... Do you hear?

And also the question of hermitism. I have never been a hermit, but by the will of fate I found myself in such a situation that there was almost no one around. And I was very interested in the very philosophy of hermitism.

Eleven years ago, I found myself in the same situation. The forest, the river and only 6 families out of 260 plots live here. In theory, I know that 6 families have moved. But where are they? I, a child of asphalt and a noisy city, and suddenly in Silence. I learned to ground, I learned to hear the Universe, I learned to live. I created my Place of Power for myself.
I remember about Cossack roots. Therefore, I will send you books by Daria Usvyatova. They are specifically for the Cossack woman.

[Tricia]

Unfortunately for me the fermentation was too small

Tricia, Nastya, I wanted to clarify about fermentation ...
In May macho you write fermentation for 30 hours, and in June - 6 hours.
Have you compared these teas for taste?
Something I want to make the fermentation longer than 6 hours.
Thank you for taking the time to answer the questions.

[Elena_Kamch]

Elena_Kamch, Lenus, do macho while the leaves are young.
so handsome!

Girls, I missed something! What is macho?
And there is a question? To dry the flowers of the chubushnik or not? Can I use in tea? How much per 100 g of tea?
Well, and for the experts, the question is: are there any reasonable restrictions when using dried peony leaves, based on its medicinal properties. That is, how much do you want to brew or just add a couple of leaves to a jar of tea for beauty preparation?

[Rada-dms]

Girls, I missed something! What is macho?

Rada-dms, Olya, look here
"Italian Macho" - loose leaf tea from May leaves of willow tea - Tricia 1, and here

And there is a question? To dry the flowers of the chubushnik or not?

She answered this question in the topic of garden sauces.

Added Thursday 23 Jun 2016 07:08 AM

I learned to ground, I learned to hear the Universe, I learned to live. I created my Place of Power for myself.

kubanochka, Lenochka, here I am creating ... At first I did it in Russia - it was not possible, now - here they started ...

Therefore, I will send you books by Daria Usvyatova. They are specifically for the Cossack woman.

Helen, thank you, dear! You will spoil me so completely.

In May macho you write fermentation for 30 hours, and in June - 6 hours.
Have you compared these teas for taste?

Lena, for me 6 hours of fermentation is definitely not enough! I like stronger tea. All the teas from the little fermentation experiments smell to me like grass. And organoleptically I prefer an amber-cinnamon color, not a brownish one. Therefore, for a well-dried leaf, a strong and long kneading is needed right before the juice is released from the leaves, long fermentation and drying with shock frying are for leaf.

[elena kadiewa]

elena kadiewa, Lena, I've already picked up the leaves, just arrived. Entot Macho haunts me! My ivanchay plot was not damaged, ears of corn! Exactly white-pink I will do this year!
Tricia, Nastyush, thank you! So I like it not to smell like grass, but as it should be! I will ferment for a long time

Added Thursday 23 Jun 2016 12:00 PM

shock frying

Is it 150 degrees?

Is it 150 degrees?

Yes. But in fact, there won't be much on the baking sheet inside the tea. I measured the temperature, for 20 minutes at 150 in the oven, I run 80-90 degrees inside the tea layer. Sometimes I fry it even longer than 20 minutes. Well, my leafy one is always less intense when brewing for some reason.

Thank you! Leaves rolled up to dry and with a clear conscience bainki!

[Veleslog]

Veleslog, and what Cossacks will you be?)))))))

I have such a batch in my blood that it will not seem a little, but I found out for sure that my maternal grandmother was a goranka, and my great-grandfather was a Kuban Cossack, and my wife was even more interesting, my paternal grandmother was a Terek Cossack, and your grandfather would not be believed to be a Chechen, but by maternal they are Don.

Added Thursday 23 Jun 2016 1:57 PM

Therefore, I will send you books by Daria Usvyatova. They are specifically for the Cossack woman.

Can I also? (if they are electronic, of course)

Girls, I read, I read, I do not see pictures of non-flowering Ivan-tea. And I want tea))) Climbed through the surrounding fields, looked at the leaves. I don’t understand. Did I find him or not?

Girls,

and boys

Did I find him or not?

he is dear

Can I also? (if they are electronic, of course)

You can download them on the Internet for free, type and you will be happy ...

[Veleslog]

he is dear

Veleslog, Thank you so much! It's just that there is so much of it, I thought it was some kind of weed.

Can I also? (if they are electronic, of course)

You can download them on the Internet for free, type and you will be happy ...

I downloaded today and I want to say that the book Cossack Spas. A fair life is divided into three books. In my printed version, they are in one book. I have indicated their sequence. If necessary, I can reset to e-mail.

[shlyk_81]

shlyk_81, I can't make out the leaves, but you smell it, it gives off such an aroma, such an aroma. If there is no smell, then it is not him. It seems to me that in the photo the leaves for Ivan's tea are a bit wide, but this is my IMHO.

[Basja]

I can't make out the leaves, but you smell it, it gives off such an aroma, such an aroma. If there is no smell, then it is not him. It seems to me that in the photo the leaves for Ivan's tea are a bit wide, but this is my IMHO.

Basja, sniff, did not smell, but chewed. It tastes like ordinary grass.

I downloaded today and I want to say that the book Cossack Spas.A fair life is divided into three books. In my printed version, they are in one book. I have indicated their sequence. If necessary, I can reset to e-mail.

Lena, yesterday I also downloaded all three and one more, I don't remember now, Thank you!

I have Ivan tea growing behind the fence, so there is such an aroma on the site .... Honestly, I did not chew it, so I cannot say what it tasted like.

If necessary, I can take a picture of my Ivan tea today. I still do not bloom at all and there are no buds

I don’t understand. Did I find him or not?

him, Nina

Well, to be sure, I'll wait until the buds appear))) And you can do white-pink! I read all the topics of tea and like that monkey, either to the smart, or to the beautiful)) I want to make black, and green, and leaf, and granular, and white-pink. And also from garden plants!

And you can do white-pink! I read all the topics of tea and like that monkey, either to the smart, or to the beautiful)) I want to make black, and green, and leaf, and granular, and white-pink. And also from garden plants!

you are not alone

you are not alone

We're all like that ...

Exactly.

Added on Friday, 24 Jun 2016 02:25

I downloaded today and I want to say that the book Cossack Spas. A fair life is divided into three books. In my printed version, they are in one book. I have indicated their sequence. If necessary, I can reset to e-mail.

if not difficult

[shlyk_81]

shlyk_81, tea is a contagious disease

teaania is a contagious disease

I do not agree!
Chaiemania is not a disease, it is a LIFESTYLE! From tea to tea ....

[filirina]

filirinaChronic illness ALWAYS becomes a way of life. So ... we are sick

[shlyk_81]

shlyk_81, in your photo you can hardly see the plant itself, it seems to me that this is not tea! There is a similar grass, type in the internet, there are many photos.

Added on Friday 24 Jun 2016 11:01 AM

A strange color brown stem? Or green?