Dishwasher selection (2)

[Snusmumrik]

Snusmumrik For me, the quality of washing and drying was important, so I took the rest of the pampering with the drying "turbo", in fact, it did not affect anything. I do not use a quick wash at all, because with it the PMM does not dry me.

[gala10, sazalexter]

gala10, sazalexter thank you very much! They clarified a little and made the torment of choice easier for me!

Dear experienced users of PMM, please help me to choose a model.

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Maybe there are real users of such machines on our forum, well, or look, please, with an experienced eye

At one time I was choosing between the two cars, the one that you indicated and this one 🔗... I chose the latter. I have been using it for several years, in principle I am satisfied. My car has a noise level of 49 dB and it is quite noisy. And in your choice - 53db, which is even louder. I put the dishes in most cases at night, so it doesn't bother me. I was so tortured then by the choice of dishwasher, looking for reviews, and the range of dishwashers we have is not great, so I deliberately bought almost the cheapest dishwasher that was on sale then, which I do not regret, then it cost $ 365, and yours was $ 325.

Good day! Girls tell me I want to buy a Bosch SPS 63M52 RU but I'm afraid the bowl of an airfryer won't fit anyone who has such or an analogue. Do you just want a narrow one because the kitchen is small, or is it worth thinking about a full-size one?

Marina, you can only determine this by the number of dishes.

the number of dishes is not important)) the family is small, I wonder if the bowl of the airfryer will fit in there or not there are such problems with washing it

I HAVE 53 Wosh of 45 cm. Three-liter cans fit vertically into the lower basket. In addition, the baskets are all removed. And it is better to estimate the width in the store for clarity.

Alenka212 but in general there are problems with Bosch? I watched 53, I still think 53 or 63, it seems like the difference is not big, but they differ in price (while I'm leaning towards 63)

I chose long and hard. Stood without connection for three months. Then they connected it. There were no problems (for six months). I use mostly fast (29 min) and economical. Washes flawlessly. Quiet.

[Snusmumrik]

Dear experienced users of PMM, please help me to choose a model.
This will be my first PMM, my friends do not have one either, so all hope is on you! Unfortunately, the budget is limited, I picked up these 3 options: 🔗

Snusmumrik Do not take Indesite, the rest, more or less from the budget. Electrolux-Zanussi one company

Snusmumrik, ANYONE do not listen and take what you like more in terms of "functionality" and is suitable for the budget ... all machines have approximately same service life (service, not warranty) ..

By advice many users of this site took Veko for herself .. as a result - litigation for six months and nerves ...

now I have Indesite (the model is slightly more sophisticated than yours), my conclusion is unambiguous: Indesite washes hundreds, maybe thousands of times better than the eyelid ...
Firstly, I didn’t need ANY time to "adjust" - I spent more than 2 weeks in Veko to find the right combination of rinse aid + salt - I thought the machine was going through "running in" so to speak - not a fig - these are the qualities of washing .. lately in general, horror as soap: I sinned on powder, but with the same Indesite powder washed in 2 times what Beko had not washed for 8 months .. And the quality of washing pots from MV in Indesite is also better every 10, or even 20 ...
The only one The disadvantage of the Indesite for me was the inconvenient location of the pins / holders - I just got used to how they are located in Beko .. otherwise, the machine is just super .. Don't make my mistake - don't be fooled by the opinion of others .. but choose what YOU like !!!

At one time I was choosing between the two cars, the one that you indicated and this one 🔗... I chose the latter. I have been using it for several years, in principle I am satisfied. My car has a noise level of 49 dB and it is quite noisy. And in your choice - 53db, which is even louder. I put the dishes to wash in most cases at night, so it doesn't bother me. I was so tortured then by the choice of dishwasher, looking for reviews, and our range of dishwashers is not great, so I consciously bought almost the cheapest dishwasher that was on sale then, which I do not regret, then it cost $ 365, and yours was $ 325.

Thanks for your experience! I am stuck on this particular Zanussi model, since it is indecently cheap in our Foxtrot - $ 263, today I will go to the store to find out why there is such an attraction of unheard of generosity. Maybe the last one remained or there is some damage

[Snusmumrik]

Snusmumrik, ANYONE do not listen and take what you like more in terms of "functionality" and is suitable for the budget ... all machines have approximately same service life (service, not warranty) ..

By advice many users of this site took Veko for herself .. as a result - litigation for six months and nerves ...

now I have Indesite (the model is slightly more sophisticated than yours), my conclusion is unambiguous: Indesite washes hundreds, maybe thousands of times better than the eyelid ...
Firstly, I didn’t need ANY time to "adjust" - I spent more than 2 weeks in Veko to find the right combination of rinse aid + salt - I thought the machine was going through "running in" so to speak - not a fig - these are the qualities of washing .. lately in general, creepy as soap: I sinned on powder, but with the same Indesite powder washed in 2 times what Beko had not washed for 8 months .. And the quality of washing pots from MV in Indesite is also better every 10, or even 20 ...
The only one The disadvantage of the Indesite for me was the inconvenient location of the pins / holders - I just got used to how they are located in Beko .. otherwise, the machine is just super .. Don't make my mistake - don't be fooled by the opinion of others .. but choose what YOU like !!!

Thank you, Anyuta! I will be in the store today to feel and look at all 3 options, because they are all similar in functionality, maybe at a personal meeting some of them will like more!

Thanks for your experience! I am stuck on this particular Zanussi model, since it is indecently cheap in our Foxtrot - $ 263, today I will go to the store to find out why there is such an attraction of unheard-of generosity. Maybe the last one remained or there is some damage

I bought mine 2 years ago in December when there were discounts and I was also overwhelmed by suspicions. And once again I want to draw your attention, if you haven't noticed, the Zanussi are working noisy.

I bought mine 2 years ago in December when there were discounts and I was also overwhelmed by suspicions. And once again I want to draw your attention, if you have not noticed, the Zanussi are working noisy.

I noticed, thanks, it's just not a very important factor for me, I don't have babies. I also have a Zanussi washing machine, the noise level is quite acceptable for me.

The girls need advice.
We want to buy a fully-built dishwasher, most likely a BOSCH.
That would be convenient baskets and was roomy

The girls need advice.
We want to buy a fully-built dishwasher, most likely a BOSCH.
That would be convenient baskets and was roomy

And what advice is needed?

took Veko ... as a result - litigation for six months and nerves ...

Anyut, this is again to the question of whether it is necessary to overpay for brands. When buying large equipment, in my opinion, it is still necessary. Maybe they also collect it in China, but the quality control is still higher.

Anyut, this is again to the question of whether it is necessary to overpay for brands. When buying large equipment, in my opinion, it is still necessary. Maybe they also collect it in China, but the quality control is still higher.

Marish, I completely agree with you - if it is about security or something like that! The item is immediately bought "daily" use, which in the event of a serious breakdown will even be a pity to repair, because often the price of spare parts, as a rule, will go off scale conceivable limits ...
When girls en masse / spontaneously took Bekoshki for themselves, their price range was simply ridiculous and it would be funny even to pay attention to the garbage that popped up from me ... "with the court - I almost do not regret anything, because I received such compensation that I could take a Mile (and the like) for myself ...

Kokoschka, I used the Bosh dishwasher for 9 years, and now it works, but when I moved I gave it to my friend. So for 9 years, not a single breakdown, but 9 years ago Bosh was produced in Germany, and now they are produced in Kaliningrad.

Yes ... I didn't know what they were doing in Kaliningrad ...
I want a good, big one with various functions. I can't understand that the cars are the same, but the numbers are different for everyone.
Why did BOSCH want, it seemed that if Germany bought from an officer, it would be cheating?
What to take? Bosch and Siemens are one company ...

Good evening, experienced people!
Please help me choose a dishwasher, otherwise I'm completely confused ...
We do not have very large finances, but we want to dream))

The first one that Bosch SMV50D10EU wanted, I read you a lot - everyone writes that it is an excellent brand and has proven itself well. But one question does not leave my head, drying A class BUT condensation. This is bad? I really don't want to wipe glass dishes (especially glasses) with a towel.

The second was looked after by BEKO DIN 5834, there is an active drying and, in addition to the intensive Quick & Clean wash, is available. Just what kind of company is this. I've never heard of them. I'm afraid they will miss by buying cheap nonsense that will break in 2 years.

There is no more strength to surf the Internet - I broke my eyes and my brain blew up. One hope is your support.

If you are not confused by the difference in price, then take Bosch. I have Bosch - I NEVER wiped my glasses. As for Beko - my brother has it, after 2 months it began to wash badly. And I also recommend reading the adventures of Anyuta above. She had a Veko.
Bosch has been working with friends for 13 years!

Vinochek, thanks for the answer!

That is, the absence of turbo drying or active drying does not play a special role for Bosch?

Vinochek, thanks for the answer!

That is, the absence of turbo drying or active drying does not play a special role for Bosch?

IMHO, yes, it does not play. In my Bosch, you can set the drying to two modes - standard and intensive. I looked at your model - you can also customize it.

thanks, I will consider

Before purchasing a dishwasher (I have 53 Bosch) I had no idea that glasses and glasses could shine like that after washing. Now I regret that I do not have a suspension for the glasses to hang there
The machine is expensive, no doubt about it. But the repair specialists only said Bosch ...
On the question of quality. There is a washing vacuum cleaner Thomas (probably hiccups from how often I remember him). Washes for 9 years regularly (he has other troubles). And due to the lack of extra funds (not out of greed, for sure) I saved (on my own head), bought a budget steam cleaner. At that time, she did not reach Karcher, but it was horrible ... The result after six months of infrequent use welled up a steam gun. Can only be used for cleaning windows and household appliances. And for cleaning the carpet, where I liked it the most, it is impossible due to the heavy load on this knot. Replacement of a steam gun with a hose 1300 + delivery ... And where are the savings ...

This is not a Bosch ad, just a personal experience ...

[Alenka212]

Alenka212, I also strive to buy good things. But everywhere it is like in a lottery: lucky, unlucky. I noticed this a long time ago. I also look closely at Bosch. I have not bought it yet, because we are planning to change the kitchen set for built-in furniture in the kitchen. I just think: buy from my stores or order via the Internet. Maybe someone will tell you a good Internet store, where it is more reliable to buy.

As for Beko - my brother has it, after 2 months it began to wash badly.

at the beko dacha - 7 years working on very hard water, no problems. At home there is some kind of large Ikeev model, if I am not mistaken, on the basis of an electrolux - it works without any complaints. I can't say that some of them washes better or worse!
And at the expense of firms, brands and models - everyone has different experiences, if you read the reviews on Bosch, there are also enough horror films.
God will send a headache, get it both with a mile and with asko, but he will be merciful and the Beko will work for 10 years))) I agree with Albina here))

I just think: buy from my stores or order via the Internet. Maybe someone will tell you a good Internet store, where it is more reliable to buy.

Albina, the store does not matter, since the responsibility of the seller of the equipment is valid only in the first 2 weeks, then the manufacturer himself is responsible for his goods, read - the service center!

It's certainly good to take it live in the store. But I bought a stove 1.5 years ago, and six months later, the lower shades in the oven were covered. I still can't hand it over for repair. We were also promoted to a 4-year guarantee for almost 10000r

I just think: buy from my stores or order via the Internet. Maybe someone will tell you a good Internet store, where it is more reliable to buy.

The main thing is that you have a service center for this equipment in your city. Otherwise. if anything, you'll have to send it back for your money.
I looked at the dishwasher in the nearest store. There was no such model, it was similar. The dimensions are the same, but the programs are slightly different. I touched it, looked inside, etc. But I ordered it in the online store, because the price difference is palpable. Delivery method and cost is also an important factor.

We can tell a lot, but you can choose and use it.

The machine did not immediately switch to washing machines either, there are still many people who wash with their hands on the washing board
Just like everyone wants to buy and so that for 15 years at least is enough

And at the expense of firms, brands and models - everyone has different experiences, if you read the reviews on Bosch, there are also enough horror films.
God will send a headache, get it both with a mile and with asko, but he will be merciful and the Beko will work for 10 years))) I agree with Albina here))

This is also true, there are many friends who manage to buy non-branded equipment much cheaper and everything works wonderfully for them. And I can see my karma is spoiled, as soon as I take something cheaper so immediately past and not only with technology this law works.

So knowing my "luck" I will tune in to Bosch.

Kokoschka, I used the Bosh dishwasher for 9 years, and now it works, but when I moved I gave it to my friend. So for 9 years, not a single breakdown, but 9 years ago Bosh was produced in Germany, and now they are produced in Kaliningrad.

Bosch is produced in Germany, Poland and Russia. When buying, you need to pay attention to the country of origin. I have PMM Bosch Germany, and my washing machine is Bosch Poland. Ttt, work properly.

I just think: buy from my stores or order via the Internet. Maybe someone will tell you a good Internet store, where it is more reliable to buy.

For the past few years, I have been buying all large-sized equipment (PMM, washing machine, refrigerator) in the Enter online store. Free delivery to the apartment, the quality has not failed yet, the prices are reasonable ...

Bosch is produced in Germany, Poland and Russia.

I have a Bosch stove, made in Turkey.

Before purchasing a dishwasher (I have 53 Bosch) I had no idea that glasses and glasses could shine like that after washing.

Alena accidentally [SMV53N20] Fully built-in dishwasher ActiveWater 60 cm wide SMV 53N20 RU

I'm all looking at the model
[SMV65M30] 60 cm wide ActiveWater fully recessed dishwasher SMV 65M30 RU

I want to buy from an official dealer.
Maybe someone has such models?

Albina, the store does not matter, since the responsibility of the seller of the equipment is valid only in the first 2 weeks, then the manufacturer himself is responsible for his goods, read - the service center!

This is not entirely true, the sales contract with the store, and during the warranty period in the event of a malfunction, you can contact the store or service, this is at your discretion.

This is not entirely true, the sales contract with the store, and during the warranty period in the event of a malfunction, you can contact the store or service, this is at your discretion.

It is better that this case did not happen And this is how lucky

Girls, when I was reviewing Temka, I saw with one eye how someone wrote that Bosch is good to order in Lviv online stores, can anyone remember which ones?

This is not entirely true, the sales contract with the store, and during the warranty period in the event of a malfunction, you can contact the store or service, this is at your discretion.

Unfortunately, she is not very familiar with the legislation. BUT, it would not even occur to me to contact the store in case of a breakdown, since, in a warranty case, he will simply transfer the equipment to the service center. What's the point of using another mediator. Then, as practice shows, equipment loves to break down just when the warranty has ended.

So knowing my "luck" I will tune in to Bosch.

I see no reason to argue, my repairman also spoke about Bosch and Siemens, to replace an old washing machine

Lily. I don't remember the designation. Fully recessed, 45 cm, for 10 place settings with variospeed function.

Alena thanks for the answer.
For us it is a small one we want to buy a big one.
And when I read the reviews. The repair technician advised to choose according to the principle.
1. That there would be a service center of this company nearby.
2. and advised to take well-known manufacturers. He himself worked in the Elkktrolux service center.

Girls, when I was reviewing Temka, I saw with one eye how someone wrote that Bosch is good to order in Lviv online stores, can anyone remember which ones?

It was I Ordered, brought, everything is super! Model BOSCH SMV 53L10EU / Took for 4200 with delivery and cash on delivery. Came 2 days after ordering.
I'll tell you more. They have their own guarantee, as they have their own network of service centers. The machine gave an error E24 here - clean the filters or check the pump. It did not work out on my own (the filters were clean, but I did not climb to the pump). I called the service, they told me that they would contact me within an hour. After 15 minutes, they called me back from the service of MY city and arrived the next day. Cleaned it up completely. It turned out to be a limescale (we did something with the water, cleaned it, or that, in general, everyone complained about its quality). In general, I lived without a typewriter for 1 day. Now everything is super!
If you need to throw off the link in a personal.

[Vinochek]

Vinochek... with a really valuable purchase! You understand this only when you become the owner. When in the evening, after crawling from work, I set the table (sometimes I cooked it), cooked it for tomorrow and you don't stand at the sink, nodding your nose, but crawl onto the sofa (if there are no urgent matters) ... it is remembered as a sequence of cooking and washing dishes in between. And how did I not think about such a necessary thing before?

Vinochek, thanks for the link. I looked and was surprised, even very .... why are there such low prices?

there is a border near - this time. Second, I'm not sure, but it might be a gray technique. The third is the sale prices. There are many assumptions. I punched my car on the barcode. Poland. Original.

Can you please tell me if it is possible to install the PMM close to the gas stove, I use the oven once every half a year, but during cooking in the oven, the stove heats up from all sides, will it harm the PMM because there is no other place for it (

[Marina]

Can you please tell me if it is possible to install the PMM close to the gas stove, I use the oven once every half a year, but during cooking in the oven, the stove heats up from all sides, will it harm the PMM because there is no other place for it (

Marina, I have a sheet of asbestos between the PMM and an electric stove with an oven, which also heats up in order. And it's okay.

Thank you!

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